No I do not need proof. As a gamer I don't care about patents for this and that. I simply want the best product available.
Im sure MS do have patents but that doesn't stop it having a better design in my opinion. Likewise, Sony have many patents meaning that the 360 could never have products as good as the Eyetoy for example.
They patented 5000 simple idea such as Spectatin and some kind of friend system and soundtrack system in game
Very simple yet they were allowed to patent. The supreme court says anything under the son that is made by man can be patented. This is cheap and not fair
A patent is something protecting an idea or design right? ie stopping copy-cat versions. 5000 is a lot and it may help explain why the PSN isn't quite what it should be. Any idea as to where I can find a list?
bubbles to you for keeping the conversation aslo :)
however searching patents is so complicated you need to get a degree to now how to really search. you have to be a patent broker. i dotn really know how to search.
why the hell would I need to change comment, the poster got my message, it wasn't fanboyish or anything, just told him to correct a mistake on the submission of the article, my comment wasn't even about the article itself.
btw there are many many loop holes in patents, plus, small changes in design of idea can be considered innovation, thus completely bypassing patents, remember that little patent of custom music? Yeah Sony bypassed it easily. and its nothing new either, everyone does it, its over things get better.
Actually, there was this third party peripheral for PS3 from MadCatz. Almost all the same configurations, also comes on top of the controller. It came way before anyone was even talking the 360 peripheral, in fact, I have seen it like in March 2007.
So, technically, PS3 isn't copying 360, Sony is actually comepting with a third party peripheral or trying to push to the light this possibility with the controller.
And yes, PS2 have keyborad-controllers way before. And PS3 compatible.
The way I see, this don't matter since we should get DiNovo Edge Mini/Micro (don't remember the name, but it's about the same size of a PSP, a built-in mousepad and it's independent bluetooth accessory, don't need to plug in the controller) in almost no time now... Not to say, you can just use any keyboard (but there is the size problem, but I think that a standard mini kb - a basic kb without number pad, arrows and delete/page up area - can solve this).
The DiNovo Mini is sweet, but too pricey for me ($132) - I don't think it would be useful enough to justify that price. But if I can get something like this to add on to a PS3 controller in the $20-$40 range I'll be happy - it'll save me lot's of time when I'm messaging on my PS3.
ie been hearing that sony is the inovator and microsoft and nintendo are just following and copping from sony.I'm tired of hearing this because it's a lie,they all copy each other and that's a fact.
here's a few things that sony coppied from the other two
1-moition controller from nintendo
2-microsoft started online play first
3-the keypad they are talking about
4-while we are on it,they had a video game system out before atari even had one out.Now if any one want to claim that sony,microsoft,atari,and nintendo coppied off of them with video game systems then they are right.
and they have more things then this.Don't get me wrong microsoft and nintendo coppies to.they all coppied things from each other and that's a fact.I'm just tired of reading ps3 fanboys crap that sony never coppied from any one and they were the first one to come out with things and the other 2 coppied from them and it's far from the truth.the fact is that sony never came up with 1 original ideal of their on when it comes to video game systems.sony didn't come out first with
1-videogame systems 2-moition controllers 3-rummble 4-wireless controllers 5-online gameplay
don't get me wrong they made some things better that's it.i would like to see The ps3 fanboys proof that sony never coppied things from anyone especially these thing.
i just picked up my controller and checked where my thumbs felt more comfortable. i cant really put my thumbs where the 360 keyboard is because everybody thumbs can only move a certain amount down and mine can only move a bit because they are stretched too far. but where the ps3 keyboard looks like its going to be seems easier to use becuase you are not stretching your thumb away from your fingers, you actually move them closer. it may be a little stretch to reach the top buttons but it seems to be ok. this is just an educated guess, i haven't actually tried ether
They should have licensed MS's bottom thumbpad. this beast doesnt look ergonomic at all, and making the controller top heavy is a bad idea for extended gaming.
You can not be serious.....having both controllers......for me there is no denying that the placement is better on the 360 controller............unless you have really really short thumbs...but even then you have to reach all the way to the top of the ps3 controller. Come on now...are you really being serious and non-bias? Want another example? Look at cell phones...the ones with qwerty keyboards usually have it come out from the bottom. Your opposable thumb has an easier job swiveling below then trying to stretch above.
I think if Sony really wanted to, they could have put the chat pad at the botoom (cos it's not that hard to extend the USB connection). The reason they probably didn;t do that is because 1) it would be too similar to the 360 chat pad, and 2) you hold the PS3 controller in a different way to the 360 controller (hence the reason why most 360 owners have no clue how to hold the PS3 controller properly), so the chat pad would actually come in the way.
These little attachments are for the tiny fingers. Why hasn't logitech updated the netplay controller and made a wireless version. That thing was big bulky ugly and such but when it worked nothing was better for an intergrated keyboard + controller. Since they've been discontinued they're next to impossible to find new.
Anyway, of course it's a gimmick, but the fact you can use a USB keyboard makes it entirely optional, unlike the 360's gimmick of being forced to use one.
o yea thats why MS is using the avatar system, and is basically using a 3d version of the XMB in their new Dashboard update. Why they are putting whole xbox 1 games on live didnt come from sony and nintendo now MS thought of that one. right. Come on.
Microsoft's latest E3 conference consisted of announcements that Sony and Nintendo made one or two E3s ago.........Microsoft is the king of copycat!!!...never buying one of their products...it's usually cheaply manufactured and the poor man's version of it.......hey 360 people...don't criticize eyepet or any new and innovative Sony product because Microsoft will probably be announcing the exact same stuff at next year's E3......hahahahahaha
X-bots are hopeless....haha Microsoft's latest E3 conference consisted of announcements that Sony and Nintendo made one or two E3s ago.........Microsoft is the king of copycat!!!...never buying one of their products...it's usually cheaply manufactured and the poor man's version of it.......hey "Waste of everyone's time" X-bots.....don't criticize Eyepet or any new and innovative Sony product because Microsoft will probably be announcing the exact same stuff at next year's E3......hahahahahaha
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That little Sony keyboard looks better than any Microsoft product I have ever laid eyes on......from now on every single Xbox or Microsoft product has Too Human and faulty written all over it.....it's tainted.....the richest company in the world keeps getting richer because of idiots like you...that buy useless and overpriced products because you are easily influenced by hype and consistent promotion......
In this generation, Sony DID follow MS. MS released the add-on Chatpad first, simple as. Why deny it? They obviously got the inspiration from the 360, don't be so ignorant to suggest otherwise.
This article is stupid, and the chatpad is a gimmick in general. Of all the games I've played online on the 360, BFBC, Halo, Gears, COD4, etc, I have only used the mic, not a stupid chat pad. You'd probably get banned if you keep on sending text messages to people thru out the game and you won't get replies either. So by default, using the chatpad already slows down the flow of the game. The chatpad is for Live messenger, and for text chat in game rooms, just like what this PS3 chatpad is for. The chatpad is not designed to play games while texting because there are no games currently that support such stupid functions beside MMOs and neither consoles got any except for FF11.
What I meant was banned/kicked from the server you're playing on. And even if you prefer to use text rather than mic on the 360, it's still going to disrupt the flow of the game which is the main reason why the writer of this stupid article is criticizing Sony for.
I don't even have a Ps3 and only have a 360 but I don't choose sides and I'm just saying things like they are. If I want to send a message to my friends while I play COD4, I'd have to bring up the guide and scroll all the way to my friend list, and the process isn't a speedy one believe me. And messaging the ppl that are also playing the game in you would be pointless either. They would be too busy killing/hiding/dying to even reply to you (not everyone's 360 controller is equipped with a chatpad you know or would take the time to type a message to you while in-game). So if the writer wants to call the PS3 chatpad a gimmick, might as well call the 360's chatpad a gimmick as well because to me they are both useless in-game.
Seriously, have you met people that you were playing with send you a message? Not that many, and even if they were, just ignore it dude...
And why would you send a message to your friends while playing online? By the time you do, 3 minutes have passed and you could have made a couple of kills before the end of the game...
um from what ive seen you dont have to move you whole and up to type unless you have really really tiny hand you should be able to still move your thumbs up instead of down to type. I think the mouse idea is kool, but wont get used like they might want it to be used. i mean instead of plugging a mouce into your ps3 and using up another USB port you can put it into the controller. its really saving space thats all.
Seems like whoever wrote that article doesn't have a real PS3 controller to compare the image to.
From my comparison, the keypad is small enough so that I can just move my thumbs up a little to type. Probably about the same amount of movement needed for the 360 Keypad, but upwards instead.
So really, what's the difference? Upwards movement instead of downwards, and touchpad.
Much better than the 360's version in my opinion.
Plus, imagine if some games took advantage of the touchpad. DS-like games on PS3? Integrate it with PSEye and SIXAXIS? The possibilities are endless.
I questioned why it was up there but now I see its because of the mouse, you can use that pad with only one hand while gripping the controller with another, I think the mouse being there is just cool. Now we're in a world were more features is a bad thing. apparently.
why is this under 360?
ms have patented 5000 idea for xbox live just so sony cant improve?
dispicable dont you think
has a point.
PS3 Keypad Copied Xbox 360.
Sony just steals thats all there good at
How retarded can you get?