X08: Cliff talks Gears 2's 'Seriously 2.0' achievement

While at today's Canadian X08 event, Xbox360fanboy's own Xav de Matos had a chance to chit-chat it up with Epic's Cliff Bleszinski (lucky turd) and learned something very, very interesting about Gears of War 2's achievements. Specifically, Cliff confirmed that Gears 2 will include an upgraded achievement based on Gears of War's original "Seriously" achievement. The freshly new "Seriously 2.0" achievement will require a whopping 100,000 kills to unlock. Yes, you read correctly, 100,000! But fear not, the achievement task isn't what you think, because "Seriously 2.0"'s 100,000 kills come from both single and co-op campaign gaming. So, no multiplayer kills will count. Xbox360fanboy says, bring on the Locust and give us our second helping of Seriously Gamerscore.

[zethos56]

But as long as there are things to keep people playing SP and co-op this will be awesome.

[neeharb]

What i mean to say is that it must really have 100's of enemies running around..so we can blast their fcukin ugly arses hehehe...Bring it on

[SmartPS3Owner]

Cliff is a noob.

[RoidRage]

That "noobs" 360 debut game sold more in a week than 22 year veteran Kojima's MGS4 did in it's first week(and MGS4 was sold in a bundle).

[GameOn]

Gears was sold as a bundle too but point taken.

[deeznuts]

Roidrage your point being? Cooking Mama on the DS sold more than every single PSP game probably. Is it better?

[Fruit Loops]

there wasn't a nice selection of good games when GeoW came out, that's why it sold more than MGS4

[kewlkat007]

for Resistance: Fall of man.

Gears of war was just kick-ass and it lived up to the hype.

Plus not everybody is into Shooters so regardless, the game came out a year later with other games in the library, which is still more of a selection.

Plus the 360 is a great Shooters console thanks to XBL and to me(that controller). Gears came out the right time and did well. think about it what was out when Resistance came out?

On Topic: I probably won't get that achievement, I don't play games for them but that is for that hardcore player. Where is that Article with the topic: WHAT KINF OF ACHIEVEMENT WHORE ARE YOU?

I'd be at the bottom.

[HeavyweightInTheGame]

It took me a year and a half to get 14000.

[cannonsimp]

OMG! thats way too much. Lets say you play one act a day thats about 75-100 kills. That means you would have to play one level every day for about 1,000-1,250 days straight! Thats 3-3.5 years.

[White-Sharingan]

WTF

[Cajun Chicken]

A testament to Serious Sam.

[cmrbe]

when your campaign is only 2 hours long because of DVD9. You xbot suckers have fun shooting the same Locust for 100,000 times hehe While PS fans have fun with 2 campaign with 60 MP and 8 co-op. Suckers!!.

[RoidRage]

It's too bad the ps3 is a flop.

[kamakazi]

really? and why is that?

[Cajun Chicken]

...HemRoidRage can't come up with an logical answer.

[RoidRage]

It's an over priced, under delivering console, with inferior graphics, online play, and poor library with no diversity and only one AAA exclusive in 2 years. They should drop the PS3's price to $150, which is what it's really worth.

[batichon frandy]

shut up retarded gears 2 will be better 10000000000 times than resistance crap
sucker
360 got the best exclusive out there
Gears owns resistance and killzone

[Cajun Chicken]

The PS3 is not inferior as devs have proved, the library for the PS3 is just as diverse as the PS3 and is young; hence the lack of games, MS snap up nearly every AAA exclusive before anybody else has a chance thanks to bags of cash, which Sony probably can't afford due to successfully managing 3 consoles in the market, at the same time whilst offering the public a free online service which always gets slated for no-apparent reason.

My 360 sits on a desk waiting for something to play. Patiently, waiting for something new that doesn't involve paying to play online for most of its longevity.

[Jeremy Clarkson]

Poor library? PS3 owners have all the titles you have since most of the 360's game library is multi-platform.

PS3 has the best exclusives, no argument there.

Gears? No thanks, i'll have Killzone 2.
Banjo..? No thanks, i'll have LBP.
Fable 2? No thanks, i'll have FFXIII + FFVXIII.
Forza 3? No thanks, i'll have GT5.

[RoidRage]

Cajun you must be sitting in Sony make believe land.

Jeremy....bahaahahhaaaaa! And how many of those ps3 games have you been playing today? Oh, I know the routine. (crying)Pleease, pleeeeeeaessse, oh God pleeeeeeasssse....just wait. Pathetic.

[Cajun Chicken]

I'm sitting under that side of the rainbow with the pot of gold for long term value after purchase.

[RoidRage]

Because in actual reality your'e sitting on pile of your own feces screaming psychotic ramblings about your love for Sony to anyone dumb enough to listen to you.

[cmrbe]

Stay off the steroids. It makes you angry and inflame your hemorrhoids when you constipate.

[doshey]

dude roidtard u just made fun of yourself u jackass

[beavis4play]

the hoarde mode will be included in this? you can probably rack up a lot of kills in this mode....but 100,000 does seeem like a lot.

[wrshredder]

I bet it does.
I think the point of the whole news was to brag about GoWs number of enemies ;)

Cant wait for GoW..

[rbluetank]

GW2 will only have 5 real monsters on the screen at one time ( per Cliff B demo) and usually 5 monsters that back them up per level... Please do not count the "ant monsters"; if you kill one or thousand it probably will not count torward's your 100k nor effect the game play. Okay, back to bussiness. GW2 is said to have 5 chapters broken down into 4 sub-levels of levels. ( per Cliff B mouth) It should have 50 monsters per completion of a level X 5 levels equals = 250 per completion of the game. It will take you near 40/50 play throught to reach that mark.. GL

You could play even longer if you shoot out the grappling hooks per (Cliff B demo) to not allow more enemies to come on screen. you can kill the High priest before he can summon more enemies to the screen as well; per (Cliff B demo).. GW2 needs to find away to become a better game off line.. It will be heading in the same directcion as horses did about 100k years ago.. fast forward today's times.. In those days horses were were more popular / valuable then dogs. Now, nobody gives a astray about horses because of the variety of beter "car's/ dogs" or other games coming out this year / next year. By the way

Let say you kill 1K or 10K enemies per completion of the single player game thats an average of 100/10 play throught to reach the 100k kills.. GL Demos are usually the way a games finally product will play like.. aka HAZE/TooHUman

[wrshredder]

I bet they know it better than you do. Just wait and see..

[GameOn]

I dont know if you have been taking drugs or whatever but you sound like a complete idiot.

Oh yeh horses costs more than dogs and they can also cost more than the most expensive car. horses can cost MILLIONS.

[cmrbe]

will not innovate and should have been part of Gears 1 campaign. EPIC had to make it two games because of DVD9. To compensate for lack of features/content. EPIC included this achievement with 100,000 in it to make their game look big and make the xbots happy hehe.

[rosebowl23]

WOW!! KILL 100,000 ENEMIES TO UNLOCK!!!! a little picture that says you unlocked the little picture...

woo...hoo........

[rbluetank]

i now want more then ten players online, a bigger better story mode..and no more people shooting me outside of the map /glitches and such.. aka you are the person who glitches outside of the online game i was playing a couple of nights ago..!!

$60 plus dollars is not easily to come by when gas price/food ect... is so high. when i spend my money i need the game to play zdam good offline and online. My checks comes after 80 hours of hard work and not from sitting on a soft couch playing video game for 2 weeks straight and then heading over to the mail box for GA...not meaning Georgia by the way.

[LossTheEarthbreaker]

I have a feeling english is not your first language, which I respect, but what did you mean when you said, "aka you are the person who glitches outside of the online game i was playing a couple of nights ago" and also "...and then heading over to the mail box for GA...not meaning Georgia by the way. "

This isn't sarcasm. I'm trying to understand you better.

Also, if this improves on the first without feeling like a ho-hum sequel (which it's starting to look like), I will be happy. You want a good sequel? check out geometry wars 2, Call of Duty 4, Ratchet & clank 3, Jak III, Final Fantasy VII. These are amazing sequels. Gears of War 2 will just be another bullsh*t sequel, unless the team can find a way to make it better than ever.

And I really hope they haven't shown everything that's new in just these demos, because it's not enough.

[GCO Gamer]

Thank God

[lowcarb]

I didn't know XO8 was going on. Anyways this is good to hear and I can't wait to pick up this game.

[LossTheEarthbreaker]

X08 Canada. I'm unsure as to whether this is the offical X08 or if there's one coming up in the United States.

It could be the official X08. I just don't know this for a fact.

[LossTheEarthbreaker]

"Flop" has close to nothing to do with the quality of anything. It has to do with how much the product sells in comparison to how much it costs to make.

Okami was a flop in terms of money it made (but many wouldn't consider it a flop because its marketing was poor), but the game is better than almost everything in the last two generations.

Halo 3, although not the best game outside of online multiplayer, but certainly not bad, was a commercial success, regardless of whether or not it was inferior to Okami in single player.

See what I mean?

Flops can be amazing games and it's unfortunate when that happens.

Most "flops," however, aren't great games to begin with, but have tons of dollars in developing and marketing. Therefore, they flop even though they had the support.

Many potential flops find commercial success. Like Wii Fit. Every sports game released annually. Guitar Hero: aerosmith.

They don't deserve it, but they make money. These aren't flops.

A flop is a property that has millions plugged into it without even making a dent in the industry.

The PS3 is far from a flop. The system itself hasn't made much money, but by the end of 2009, I guarantee the 360 is far in the dust.

Because of the games. The 360 has less than half a dozen exclusive titles in the next year and a half. Whoa.

Even Nintendo has them beat by the core audience. Not including the millions that will buy sh*t like Kung Fu Panda, Wii Fit, and Mario Party Seventeen.

[RoidRage]

It's another psychotic babbling Sony street preacher.

FYI
A flop is when something doesn't live up to the hype surrounding it. And the PS3 is most definately a flop, and has been since E3 '05 when the first actual PS3 gameplay footage was shown.

[Cajun Chicken]

...Mr American Pie.

[LossTheEarthbreaker]

You must be kidding? So many people are so confused as to what constitutes a flop. I guess if the new slang for disappointing games is flop, then okay.

I may prefer my PlayStation 3 this fall and next year, with my Wii close behind and my 360 at the back, but I still loves me some 360.

I used to prefer 360, but that was when the others were catching up and didn't have much to look forward to.

360 has: Star Ocean 4, Tales of Vesperia (both other consoles have their own Tales games, making this somewhat of a moot point), Infinite Undiscovery (which is my most anticipated 360 title), Fable 2 (hopefully it's far better than the first, but based on that first title, I'm not expecting anything amazing and I'll wait til it comes out on PC), Gears of War 2 (after the first, I love the online play, but I'll wait for PC for the better version), and Banjo (which is looking more and more uncertain as something to look forward to with each day). Next year sometime they'll have Halo Wars (and I'll be far away with my PC RTS's, if I even feel like playing RTS).

Not a whole lot there, my man.

Sony has: Motorstorm 2, Heavy Rain, MAG, Afrika (could be fun), infamous, Fat Princess, LA Noire, Red Dead Revolver 2, Valkyria Chronicles, Shin Megami Tensei, Time Crisis 4, Way of the Samurai 3, Yakuza 3, The Last Guy (PSN), LocoRoco 2 (PSN), Driver 5, Disgaea 3, Killzone 2, God of War 3, White Knight Story, whatever Team ICO is working on which I'm dying to play, FF Versus XIII, Resistance 2, Little Big Planet, Tekken 6, Jak 4, Wipeout HD, SOCOM, the remainder of Gran Turismo 5, Dragon Quest, and there's more.

Nintendo has: Madworld, Monster Hunter 3, Fatal Frame IV, Tench IV, Mushroom Men, Little King's Story, Obouro Muramasa Youtoden, Animales de la Muerte, Deadly Creatures, de Blob, the Conduit, Tales of Symphonia 2, Dokapon Kingdom, No More Heroes 2, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (first was amazing with 3 friends who had GBA's), and possibly Kingdom Hearts 3

You guys (RoidRage and other rabid fanboys, Sony and 360 alike) need to take a break.

I don't know any damn Wii fanboys. They're all too smart to make it obvious or too smart to think that everything they could want is on one system.

[zonetrooper5]

Usually there is an X08 held in the UK but MS hasn't annouced that yet and X08 does happen in Canda also.

[lowcarb]

Yeah but who knows, maybe they had a private invitation only event in Canada which would explain why they were not at the GC. I have a feeling that TGS is going to be huge for MS and just wish Sony would have waited before showing there full deck. MS is very smart for not looking desperate to generate hype beyond 2008 and this holiday will all pay off in software and hardware sales.

[Covenant]

Thank God it's campaign-based. That should minimize the kill-wh0ring.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

That's not terrible.

I have over 3000 hours clocked in on DMC3.

[LossTheEarthbreaker]

What on earth for?

The only game I ever played that much was WoW.

[pp]

Gears of war 2 is giong to be so awsome i am looking forward to reaching that achievment asap over and out

[cmrbe]

because thats the only thing worth doing in Gear 1.5

[rbluetank]

1) the person i was talking to has glitches outside of the map when i was playing gears online with him.. I just remember who he was when i was writing. When you are playing a game and people start cheating. You do remember who they are most of the time by their name. His name is always in my sights when i play gears of war!!! Cheater can really mess up a good game at times.

2) GA not meaning Georgia is a inside joke that you would not understand if i told you. When you ask what does that mean? it is to late to tell you. I am saying this with respect and not anger. a lot of people know what it means and a lot of people do not.. that is the point i am making... i am not writing for mass appeal only for small appeal.

[LossTheEarthbreaker]

Ah, it was just a little oddly worded.

I agree with you, though.

to -LETS-ALL-GET-IT-ON-:

I agree. I hate the fact that achievements are all people work for, and developers lazily implement achievements/trophies more than half the time.

When they are creative and challenging, they add replay value. I don't care if no one could see my gamerscore, the achievement issued a challenge to me and I want to see if I can beat it, regardless of whether or not I'm connected to the internet.

They can be good, but some people get way to into it for the wrong reasons.

[kenshin22up]

This seriously 2.0 achievement is seriously retarded. Even if you can kill up to 200 enemies a day, it'll still take you 500 days to complete it. Imagine how many 360s you have to go thru before hitting the stupid achievement unlocked pop up.

[-LETS-ALL-GET-ON-]

SERIOUSLY! What is the point of achievements. It may make the retards keep playing it so they can get some points for their worthless score and maybe a little picture but who gives a flying fu*k about that!? No one except the losers....

I will play the campaign, enjoy it and then online. Thats it! So sad to see all you pathetic so called gamers waste your life on gamescore.

[DevastationEve]

I perfectly agree that achievements = devoted/obsessed/lifeless gamer. But hey, you have to make something for everyone right? I see guys like k4rn4ge with his 64000+ gamerscore and I think "whoa...to be that guy". And then, when I get back to earth I end it with "would mean I have a LOT of money, or a pissed off mom/girlfriend" I have a gamerscore of 4000, and only just this year did I really get serious and pass the 1000 mark. And I have like 25 games, 10 arcade, and one Xbox original.

That's also after having owned a 360 since 05/06 (I gave it six months from launch to see if I really wanted it). Gamerscore is an interesting concept, but not something that should be considered a major selling point. Consider everything ELSE before the gamerscore comes into the decision making process. It's just a perk.

(Downy jr as a black man...now THAT'S innovation!)

[patterson]

What an acheivement!

[Dyingduck]

achievements = something extra

Focusing on "achievements" as the main content = epic failed/innovation AKA gears 1.5

PROOF/Credibility:

http://i37.tinypic.com/1zvp...

Have fun Xbots ROFL while I enjoy R2 and KZ2 innovation.

[Havince]

so this is b@lls

[sak500]

Atleast it will be more fun killing 100k locusts than those shooting gallery ducks in black and white game called KZ2. Man after watching the 100th video of the same grey, drearly level of kz2 i'm thinking if thats going to be the whole game of drab and bland environment then the ps3 droids have another haze on their hands.

GO play your borezone2 which is alredy getting shafted in previews, oh wait, feb 09 hmm or maybe dec 09 cuz they have only one level ready the next level wll take another year as they are adding 2 more colors in it.

[SENORxSNEAKY1]

you sony fan boys are just pissed off that u paid 600 bucks for a piece of crap. i'll give it to u guys that the ps3 has pretty graphics, but in the end crap is crap no matter how pretty it may be. killzone2 is gonna suck especially if its anything like the first, and the apple never falls far from the tree.

[Bizmal]

Come on more time based acheivements... lame what next a million...

[kevin360uk]

Make a half decent multiplayer game