TCC: This time, we’re giving Ubisoft the green light for its inability to have early review copies
No, it's not fine. People want to know if the game is good or not..
But the servers don't go live until the day the game launches. So how to you want them to review the game without any servers? Would it be a review that reflects the gaming experience? No. So would it be a valid review? No. What's wrong with waiting a week after the game is released, and then reading the reviews when people have had proper hands on time with the retail version. Heck whats wrogn with waiting a month, when all the day one patches and early bug fixes have been implemented?
Uhh there was an open beta... if they didn't try that out to get a feel for it then why should we cater to their laziness? lOl the Beta is a good enough "review" in my book. Definitely day 1 purchase "Physical Gold Edition" in my book.
There was a closed alpha, closed beta and an open beta, if people don't know whether or not they'll enjoy the game by now then I don't know what to say.
Exactly. People had multiple chances to try the game before release. But what I am really concerned about is why do people need others to judge if the game is good or not? Can you not make a decision for yourself? Do they not realize that game reviews are completely one-sided and cater to like-minds instead of the majority? I suggest people play video games for themselves. With the option to rent games, you should not need some lazy, no-life guy who is to pathetic to get up and get a real job to give you advice on anything. ANYTHING. Their career path shows how unreliable they are. SMH
I like this a lot more. Maybe I will start believe in those reviews again. How many times hasn't a demo/beta been out to try out a game, and the retail version is way off the mark? I have lost count. People obviously have a short term memory.
The reason people want reviews is because of the taste destiny left in everyone's mouth. Sure everyone who was interested tried the beta, and know what the game is all about. But how much game is there? What else is there to do? What kind of high level/endgame content is there? Etc? I know I personally am looking for answers to those questions.
@pump Destiny was horrible in the Alpha bad in the Beta and ehh in the retail... Why destiny always brought up when it comes to The Division? Like no there is no STANDARD with that game... that game isn't a standard... and as for the beta to a game... betas/demos whatever you would like to call them are not that different than the retail versions... reviewers, review the game and it's an OPINION... nothing more... if you need someones opinion to help you buy something you may/may not like after playing it first hand then maybe you shouldn't get it. Because you are already on edge. Is all i'm saying. if you need to be talked into it, then obviously you didn't like what you experienced so far from the beta.
Telling me how much content, and what is in a game, isn't opinion c-h-e-f. I don't buy a car, house, tv, or anything else before it's out, without knowing it's specs, and comparing it to the next closest thing. So why do it for a video game? The comparison to destiny was not a gameplay, or mechanics comparison. It was a comparison to how they chose to present their game. Hype it up, then release, and not allow reviews to sucker everyone in to buying day 1. I want to know if the division has a story. If it has enough gameplay (pve) to keep me interested for a while. I would also like to know if they just expect us to grind relentlessly (like destiny) as an end game mechanic, or if they have interesting stuff to do when you've completed the story. These are not unreasonable things to ask. Especially when almost every game let's you know ahead of time what is in the game. A reviewers opinion isn't what I'm looking for out of the review, it never is. Since ubisoft won't tell us anything, the only option for me is to see what reviewers find. I want to like this game, and I did enjoy the beta. But a new iP with little info on what there is to do, leaves me concerned. Especially when it comes from companies like ubi, ea, and activision.
Agree that it is not fine. I understand the logic with having no one in the servers and it makes sense, but Ubisoft has burned this bridge in the past with reviews they embargo til after launch... ... Assassins Creed: Unity anyone??
So much fail!
They had plenty of chances to make there own opinion by playing the beta. And if not whats stopping them from waiting a few days.
If they wanted to know if the game was good then they played the open beta. Waiting for reviews means they want to know if someone else thinks the game is good, which imo is very silly. Any review done without full servers wouldn't be a real review.
Those people can wait until the game gets reviews and then buy it if they want.
those morons at Ubisoft aren't confident that their game will do good, thats why there are no early reviews and I don't blame them, most of the people that played the beta including me already said the game is boring as hell!!
Wow how much do you lie?
"most of the people that played the beta including me already said the game is boring as hell" That's not what I'm seeing at all. Most people seem to have loved the game, judging only from online comments of course. I know I loved it. After the beta I upgraded to a Gold edition. First time that's ever happened. No game is for everyone.
What planet are you on. So over 6.4 million players said it was boring? Wrong most of those players will be buying the division. Why because they understood it was just a beta. It looked and felt absoloute wonderful. We got to see some of the features unlocked. Now Ubisoft have detailed there plans for dlc and changes in clouding trading. Ubisoft have worked closely with the community with the division and that's what counts, they're prepared to listen and take note, other publishers and developer s should do the same.
Option 1:if you were planning on waiting for reviews, so shouldnt bother with Day 1 reviews either way, so just give it a week or so after launch and see proper reviews. In that case, it shouldnt affect you that they didnt give review copies. Option 2:If you already preordered the game, then you dont care about reviews and made your decision already, so the lack of review copies is also irrelevant. Chances are that if you fall into a middle point between those 2 statements, you would be the type of person that makes decisions based on very early reviews (usually from review events) and then is complaining that the game is not working like that on Day 1, or that the reviewer clearly didnt play the whole game... so i suggest moving over to Option 1 camp, the game wont dissapear because you started playing a few days after launch
It's perfectly fine because I'm not planning to buy it.
You missing out then!
Meh, the beta was just OK. I could see myself getting sick of it relatively quickly.
I am not buying it either. Just not interested is all.
This game is gonna be great and i don't need some else's opinion
I'm just happy that they allowed a open beta just two weeks before the official game comes out.
Most people are focusing on the unpopulated servers being the reason for Ubisoft not releasing review copies. Sure, that is a valid point, but there are other parts of the game that can be reviewed. People, like me, want to know how much content is there at the beginning. They may have already given us a hint during a recent interview. When asked whether the PvE will be repetitive they mentioned that missions will playable at various difficulty settings, and that the Dark Zone is the end game experience. To me, replaying a mission on hard does not equal extra content. Call of Duty titles have always had 4 difficulty settings, but that doesn't mean you get 4 different campaigns. Seems like they're hoping for big day one sales before people find out the amount of actual gameplay available.
Yet here's the thing. If they are getting a bunch of day one sales "before people find out about X", those are sales for people who already had the game preordered and didnt care for reviews anyway You are assuming that the amount of people that was going to cancel their day 1 copy based on reviews is somehow bigger than the people that are cancelling their preorder because they would rather wait and see. Either way they lose day 1 sales, so its not like some kind of amazing business move, and unless the game really is crap (which based on the betas, i doubt), the reviews should be fairly positive
The devs are counting on day one sales. That's why there are so many preorder bonuses these days. You may be right that anyone who already wants a loot and shoot game will not be affected by reviews. But there are certainly people on the fence wondering if the single player story will be enough to justify the $60 price tag. There are other single player games coming out in this release window, and the reviews might sway those people. And Massive/ Ubisoft may be hoping that they'll just roll the dice and keep their preorder, or go ahead and buy day one anyway, despite the lack reviews. I don't really look at review scores, especially for games like this. I want to know what the game is like, not just what score the reviewer gives it. I think you're right to say that it will get great reviews. It's a very well put together game. Looks great, and the servers worked pretty well in beta. Don't think this a Unity by any stretch of the imagination. Personally, I don't care for the bullet sponge hoodied enemies, but to each his own. In the end, this is just my opinion. Could be wrong, could be right.
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