Battalion 1944 Dev on 60FPS: XB1 & PS4 Have Limitations; We're Considering Game Preview on XB1

Joe Brammer, Executive Producer on Battalion 1944, talked about details such as console frame rate/aim assist, stretch goals and Game Preview availability.

[eyeDEVOUR]

For the love of all things good and holy, no aim assist PLEASE. Console gamers are not all unskilled dudebro scrubs.

[MCTJim]

Agreed...option to turn off please.

[eyeDEVOUR]

That sounds good but that doesnt work either. If you have some of the battlefield an cod games you can find the option to turn it off, but you wont get anywhere because nobody else will give up there magnatized auto aim. But it could work if it was forced off in like a hardcore mode

[Eonjay]

I have to agree. I actually find the auto assist distracting and annoying. I would vote to have it disabled as well.

[Jonin7Spartan]

In destiny it's horrific, Like if you're trying to kill a dude & his allies go near him, it messses with your aim, switching over to the undamaged dude, its annoying as hell.

[marioJP87]

Makes things way too easy. I remember being annoyed by this on Splinter Cell: Blacklist and disabled the option. Aim assist and auto aim features are for kids ... literally.

[nveenio]

Or for people who like story more than challenging gameplay. I, for instance, always play games on the easiest difficulty to start because between kids, work, and TCB, games don't get much stage time in my life. So auto-assist might help me cruise through, enjoy the story, the action, the set pieces, and then move on, appreciating what the developers have done without having to give up on life's more important aspects.

[marioJP87]

@inveni0
No, you're just a sucky gamer because you use help to complete games.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

@inveni0

"...without having to give up on life's more important aspects.."

lmao you had me until you had to go Broadway drama just to make it sound like you have something so much more important, that you can't learn to aim in a videogame. We all have lives to live. But you make it sound like a game is impossible to complete without playing on toddler mode, just because you have kids.

Anyway, aim assist in single player is entirely different than aim assist in multiplayer, where actual people are playing. It's like cheating is automatically enabled, but as already stated, even if you turn it off yourself, other people are still locking on to you just because they pressed a button. It's so damn corny.

[nveenio]

@KwietStorm, I work a 70+ hour week, as well as run my own business(es) and juggle a wife and kids. Don't mean to sound dramatic, but my life has virtually no room for hobby-ing. Some people really are busier than other people, if that's not too unbelievable.

That being said, it's a great idea to force it disabled in multiplayer. I'm just not sold on removing it altogether.

[quenomamen]

No there are tons of unskilled dudebro scrubs on consoles, thankfully they stick to COD.

[UltraNova]

Imagine how would the whole COD landscape change if Activision removed auto-aim in multiplayer?

[3-4-5]

Auto-aim is for people who want to pretend they are better than what they really are.

They can't handle the reality that they aren't as good as they think they are, and they don't want to acquire different levels of true skill.

They want to talk like they are the best, without earning it.

That being said, this game looks like it could potentially be really fun to play.

[lennyvon]

Who cares how good u are at any game it's all about your enjoyment.
Elitist folks should move on to pc as this is where the "best" players with plenty of time on their hands reside in my opinion.

[3-4-5]

Getting good at a game is enjoyable. I'm not talking pro level or even super hardcore, but acquiring skill as you play and getting better is hard when you basically let somebody miss a shot, and still give them the kill.

Bullets shouldn't be heat seeking missiles .

[ThePresentIsAgift]

PS4 has limits??!! SMH

I never, not in all my years have I seen such deplorable fantasy. How is such filth publicised and reproduced without repercussion? Everybody knows that the PlayStation 4 is limitless. This is truly disturbing.

[starchild]

;)

[eyeDEVOUR]

Heard that about your throat.

[dannyolfc]

EyeDEVOUR you are a hero, awesome comment :-)

[ThePresentIsAgift]

EyeDEVOUR. you only wished it were, keep dreaming though and one day you may meet the man of your dreams. Sorry to disappoint you on that front. Regards

[skratchy]

There is NOTHING more annoying than being FORCED to shoot a different enemy just because it got close to your reticle. Luckily most games I play let you turn aim assist off, but it is beyond maddening when you can't.

[lipton101]

Agh. Torn on it. On one hand, CoD and Halo style aim assist is way too much. I'd prefer a little assist since its on console, but nothing major.

BUT, on the other hand, it depends on the pace of the game. A slower paced game shouldn't have aim assist because it'll take more time to place well aimed shots.

I'm personally hoping for an intense, slow paced ww2 style fps, without auto-aim. I love this genre... God I hope they do it right

[solar]

Aim Assist, helping the slow kids once again. Maybe the dev will come over and turn on the console for you.

[eyeDEVOUR]

I just pooped a little.. Gonna need some help..What? Did you think this ass was gonna wipe itself.

[ChrisW]

Hey! I love aim assist because I'm cross-eyed and all thumbs

[Imp0ssibl3]

Hm, sounds like they're building an excuse for themselves even now. Good thing I'll get it on PC and get as much frame rate as my rig can push.

[eyeDEVOUR]

You can look at it that way, but id rather them be realistic than to promise me some bullshit.

[Alexious]

That's definitely true as well. Lying is even worse.

[badz149]

don't be like Ubisoft!

[mochachino]

Any game can be 60fps. But on consoles be prepared to sacrifice a lot of graphical features to do so

[garrettbobbyferguson]

I think that should be a priority, to reach 60 FPS at least. Once you get used to it anything lower is difficult to play at and takes too much time to adjust to.

[ccgr]

Looks fun, will have to check it out on PC

[Hunkaloverbear]

Omg come to game preview please

[Alexious]

I wonder why Sony doesn't hurry up and do something similar for PS4. It's clear that some users are interested even on console.

[Hunkaloverbear]

I purchased layers of fear and ark survival evolved through game preview and absolutely loved them both. Still play ark everyday one of the most fun games I've played in a while. Definitely see it becoming the best dinosaur game of this year.

[Aurenar]

They now have limitations. Last year and two years ago were the wonders of the gaming dev.

[MCTJim]

Welcome to the real power of these two consoles. They are not gaming rigs and I would expect them to have trade offs.

All I ask for is to bring the simplicity and fun back in this genre. Call of Duty has lost its way and these fine gentlemen have found it.

[Neonridr]

well what did you expect when all they were doing was pumping out remasters of 360 and PS3 titles :P

Now that devs have to build unique games from the ground up, especially using UE4, it will be a lot more interesting to see how devs manage to squeeze every bit of performance from these machines.

[PurpHerbison]

I never buy into the limitations bs. Sure, you can technically say that cause there isn't much power on the current consoles but any real dev would find out how to OPTIMIZE their game for said hardware.

[garrettbobbyferguson]

Optimization isn't some magical wand you can wave and suddenly you're pumping out crysis visuals at 1080 60fps, you realize this?

[PurpHerbison]

How did that fly over your head garrett? What made you believe I meant that it could possibly achieve such a thing? Optimization means, that instead of trying to pump out fanciest graphics and have the frame rate take a massive hit, scale back some things, tweak some things. There is limitations cause they are trying to do TOO much on weak hardware like most devs. Optimize the game for said hardware. Make it an enjoyable experience with a solid frame rate. Optimizing should only have a TINY bit to do with the graphics and everything to do with how well the game runs. Remove your head from your ass before you come at me sideways.

[badz149]

@Aurenar

"Last year and two years ago were the wonders of the gaming dev."

the GeForce 8800GTX was the bomb a couple of years back too. but where is it now? still top of the line? I don't think so!

technology advances but consoles stay as a constant for all its lifetime, what do you expect?

[AizenSosuke]

OMG please just me play the game already.

[Alexious]

It doesn't sound like the game is that far off. With a full release scheduled for May 2017, a beta could occur in late 2016.

[Pongwater]

Fixed hardware has limitations? Naaah…

/s

[Free_Fro]

lol

[badz149]

gasp!!

the power of the cloud returns?!

[angelsx]

No 60fps no joy for me.

[mark_parch]

please please bring to xbox preview

[PFFT]

I really do hope this releases on XGP.

[ScorpiusX]

Bring that Early Access to Xbox one , don't care if only half a game want to try out .

[Chris_Wray]

The limitations of consoles are well enough known, being fixed at 30fps on them makes sense. So long as the PC version isn't screwed with, I'll be okay with it!

[NoFanboyJustLovGames]

yes bring it on,.... would love to try this out

[bggriffiths]

Would be nice if we get get 60FPS locked down on consoles. Would have thought it'd be standard by now tbh. Maybe next-gen...

[Wallstreet37]

Aint assist sucks %alls on COD. You can literally be aiming at someone and the aim assist will make you follow them if they go in a building or behind a wall and get you killed. Thats why i use to love Socom because it had little to no aim assist.

[eyeDEVOUR]

Socom had the best multiplayer ever made. No aim assist or respawn

[Wallstreet37]

Hate &ucking redundancy. Most if not all of us who fruent sites for gaming know consoles limitations, same can be said about low to mid range pc's duhhhh they all have limitations. Stop using that as a scapegoat to make half *ss games and little optimization.

[Whitey2k]

Y can't consoles support mouse and keyboard? Y can't all games support mouse n keyboard?

[PygmelionHunter]

Because they fear the criticism generated by the userbase split between those who use M&K and those who prefer a regular controller. This could easily be solved by creating controller-specific modes, but that would actually require work on the servers and controller inputs, and we know how diligent developers have become this gen /s

[Alexious]

Consoles support mouse & keyboard, or at least they could easily. Paragon will have mouse & keyboard support on PS4, for instance.

[Wallstreet37]

Consoles actually do support mouse and keyboard, at least some due but the games that support it are rare.

[TetsujinFranky]

It's disappointing, but hardly surprising. If one wants to play a game in 60FPS for sure these days, the only choice is a good gaming PC

[Josuey]

I dont mind aim asist but auto aim is pure trash for casual gamers who cant aim.

[Alexious]

Don't really think it will have "auto aim", what would be the point of even playing then?

[InTheZoneAC]

aim assist is retarded.

that would be like:
-a racing game that brakes for you and you just need to hold gas around every corner
-a tetris game that lines up the shapes for you and you just need to hold down to lock them in place
-an rpg that fights for you, all you need to do is spam confirm/next

save the "it's needed" excuse, it's not needed and never should be implemented in any game.

[Josuey]

Analog sticks are not as acurate as a mouse,therefore a lil bit of aim asist is OK IMO, now if devs decide to not put it there at all it wont bother me either for example in killzone, I do however think that if the aim asist is too high then its no good.

[namEuser]

Xbox Game Preview please...

[Artemidorus]

I'm afraid these current consoles are holding talent and technology back it's time for new consoles

A 2018 target date to see something new would be nice. PC are already worlds apart but get held back with ports in some cases and that title at the top says it all.

[InTheZoneAC]

WW2 again? God wasn't this played out for the next 100 generations from the ps2/ps3 era?

[lennyvon]

These consoles are doing just fine personally I'd prefer a 5 year console flagship life cycle then release a new one but support the older for 3 further yrs as a transition for everyone.
As for aim assist it will stay and get my vote for that. If u don't want it go pc simple. The pick up and play accessibility of consoles should alway prioritise this in my opinion.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Sure hope their is Normandy Beach level....

[odderz]

I haven't played the game but I don't like the idea of an aim assist, and I don't like the idea of not having 60FPS precision.

[The7Reaper]

Aim assist is for scrubs no one wants it only people who suck and think their good are the ones who like it.

[lennyvon]

Or people who have life's who couldn't care less about their "skill standing" in games globally, which is the majority lol
Only people with no job e.g still in education or don't work really care about such trivial things. Imo

[Sy_Wolf]

All computers have limitations. I could build a server farm and there would be limitations on what it could do.

[navi87]

Why dont they just create seperate lobbies in MP for people wanting aim assist and for those wanting it disabled? Simples....

[Skate-AK]

I have always disabled aim assist. Having it on actually messes up my aim more than helping it by not knowing how my crosshairs are going to act.