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5 Things The Division Can Learn From Destiny

Steve C shares his list of 5 things that Destiny can learn from Destiny

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Silver_ShadoWolf3406d ago

The only thing on this list that is correct is the controls. True enough, Destiny had some of the best gunplay I have ever experienced in a game. But the rest of the article is a load of horse****

Varied enemies? They recycled the enemies in the taken king.

Varied locations? Not really.

Listened to fans? When? When have they listened to fans? Besides the nerfing of guns, they have not listened to one single fan.

Oh, and all of the locations, all of the planets look like they just dropped crap in random places. They all looked very cheap.

I'm not trying to defend the division, because in reality, there is about as much variation in enemies in that game than Destiny. The city is beautiful and can be explored for hours. You have the ability to explore different buildings and underground areas.

Seraphim3405d ago

indeed. the mechanics and game were spot on in Destiny

In regards to enemies. I think they're referring to the fact that there were different enemies. Granted it was still limited. With The Division you have what? Running around killing nothing but humans? Or will there be infected that become monsters, abominations, perhaps something like clickers in Last of Us? While Bungie didn't create enough variations and enemies in the grand scheme of things there was some variation through year one in the different Fallen, Vex, Cabal.

Varied Locations. yeah this is a tough one. Bungie did set out Planets in Destiny but they were nothing more than small plots of a hundred acres with little to do or explore. So The Division could learn from this and ensure there are enough locations, buildings, places to roam, explore, to go so players maintain an interest.

Listened to Fans. Bungie definitely listened to fans. Unfortunately they listened far too much and tried far too hard to please all fans. Instead of putting their foot down they listened to the whiners and in turn alienated some true fans and continuously ruined the game. Had they truly listened to the fans and made real adjustments 20 of my friends including myself would likely still be playing. You can't argue Bungie didn't listen because they did. The problem is they listened to the wrong group and tried far too hard to please everyone. To some extent anyway because we all know Dedicated Servers are the one thing we all want for solid PVP because as it stands the game borders unplayable to incredibly frustrating most of the time.

Unfortunately these two games are getting thrown into the same category all too much. While to some degree they may be similar the fact is they are incredibly different games. Not only that but the game modes and what each has to offer is incredibly different. Personally I see Destiny offering more with Raids, Strikes, bounties, a solid & fun PvP that would have been awesome with dedicated servers, etc. I fear that The Division might lack longevity and grinding the map or dark zone might grow tiresome and old rather quickly. I hope I'm wrong and as some didn't like Destiny others will find that despite my views that is what they love about The Division. Got of point. I just wish people would stop comparing the two because they are incredibly different

Tankbusta403406d ago

1 thing they need to learn from Destiny... Have enough content to last more than a month without forcing too much repetition. They should have learned that from Destiny's failure. Plenty of people are anticipating the game and will play it alot in the first week... If people can blow through all the content very quickly it will face the same criticisms Destiny did.

averagejoe263405d ago

The problem is, Destiny wasn't a failure financially. The Division would love to make the money that Destiny did. Therefore, there really a mistake on Destiny's part as far as a lack of content or anything.

If Destiny made that much money with small, recycled and cheap content then the division will too.

Which is sadly my greatest concern with the division. It was fun but seemed super repetitive like destiny.

objdadon3406d ago

Don't lock your best weapons and gear behind multiplayer. Destiny didn't do that and thats a big key why it has lasted so long.

Khaotic3405d ago (Edited 3405d ago )

Ummm yes destiny did. Year 1 best weapons, fatebringer, found verdict preadthys timepiece and revenge, vision of confluence, corrective measure and mythocast. Not to mention the exotics that xur rarely sold "gjallerhorn" and the only way to obtain those were multi-player events. Raids pop or nightfalls. Night falls and raids may have been pve but the are MULTIPLAYER coop modes. I obtained every year 1 and 2 exotic along with all raid weapons and loved destiny till I realized bungie probably won't ever manage this IP correctly. But I am sick of hearing that comparison cause it's totally WRONG

objdadon3405d ago

No, the way to obtain those were from raids, not pvp.i had the ghorn in my second week playing from a random strike.

Khaotic3405d ago (Edited 3405d ago )

Raid is still multiplayer and I don't care how you spin it.. Gjorn wasn't in strike loot tables. Pvp, raid, nightfall the data miners proved that. I mean everybody says the y had it second week now and never used it. It took me little over 3 months of nightfalls and raiding to get mine right after dark below. Same week I got fatebringer. I would have to see proof

Gwiz3406d ago (Edited 3406d ago )

Seriously,if anyone thinks this is better than Destiny you need a new hobby lol.
Just played for a bit on the X1,it really looked like a generic Ubisoft game.

I'm back to Destiny and CoD,now i know why Jade Raymond said " I believe we can do more with tripple-A budgets " and this game really shows why she said that.

Khaotic3405d ago (Edited 3405d ago )

Dude destiny is this worst managed IP I have ever loved. It's pvp is crap lag fest and for every expansion they made previous content not relevant. I can say this because after The Kings Fall raid and the stupid drop system and 1400 hours played with 12 trips to mercury and 100's of completed raids I got fed up with bungies nonsense. And for you to throw cod in there to while slamming a game for trying to be creative...well your impossible to take serious.

Gwiz3405d ago

I never said that COD was creative,if anything it copied a few class upgrades from Destiny and that's it.

Gwiz3403d ago

I had a point about needing a new hobby though,1400 hours?.
Then ANY game turns sour.There's not many games out there that will give you more than that.

Khaotic3402d ago

You don't have a point you have arrogant opinions that you word in such a way that if people disagree then they are stupid. I get it nobody listens to you in real life so you found a way to compensate here. Whatever, I don't know, I'm done even replying after this. good luck in life if this is the way you talk to everybody.

alfcrippinjr3405d ago

oh good old Destiny should had made it offline play with a story

killing the bad guys are like they cloned them all again and again

the division is hell better then destiny they fooked up on that one
as it dead dead dead

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Star Wars x Destiny Collaboration: Gear & Cosmetics Launching February 4th

Destiny 2 x Star Wars collaboration is here! Get exclusive gear, cosmetics, and accessories when Heresy launches on February 4th. Don’t miss it!

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coolbeans139d ago (Edited 139d ago )

Fortnite-ification comes for all live-service games.

Neonridr138d ago

now this is an armor set done right.

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Destiny Mobile spin-off will reportedly be revealed very soon

The long-rumoured Destiny Mobile game from NetEase may finally be ready for reveal according to multiple leakers.

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Xbox Passed On Destiny & Guitar Hero According To Phil Spencer

Phil Spencer talks candidly about missing out on both Destiny and Guitar Hero

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anast287d ago

He paid billions for Starfield. This should be the real story.

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Sciurus_vulgaris287d ago

Microsoft bought all of Zenimax Media for 7 billion, while Sony paid 4 billion for Bungie. I think Microsoft got the better deal due to acquiring Fallout, ElderScrolls and Doom.

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anast286d ago

This can't be true. They only bought Starfield...

InUrFoxHole287d ago

@anast
Should've thought that one out buddy, lol.

anast286d ago (Edited 286d ago )

Yeah, I thought it out. I'm not sure you did. But since we are buddy's now, you're welcome.

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anast286d ago

"Clearly your parents didn't teach you"

You know you lost, when you have to resort to this tactic.

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Profchaos287d ago

So you're saying that Microsoft has missed out on so many huge gaming franchise in the last 25 years from GTA exclusivity to guitar hero and destiny it's just laughable they had so many misses

Reaper22_287d ago

Yea, but they're still 100 times more wealthy than Sony. I would say it worked out well.

Gamingsince1981286d ago

Xbox is dead all that money doesn't help.

Hypertension140286d ago

What has work out well? It sure as hell had nothing to do with Xbox.

andy85286d ago

That isn't because of Xbox though. This is a gaming page, not an I get supplemented by father Windows page

Bathyj286d ago

Microsoft's money has nothing to do with Xbox.
Xbox is a money pit to them they would love to ditch but are after some ROI first.

Let's face it, Xbox is like a red headed stepchild that steals from you to buy drugs.

Hofstaderman286d ago (Edited 286d ago )

MIicrosoft is NOT XBOX. The current situation illustrates this. And Microsoft wants its ROI.

@Bathyj and daddy Satya has just force admitted Phil to rehab.

gold_drake286d ago

you know why MS has so much money, and it aint cause of the gaming xbox branch.

so lets not kid ourselves.

PhillyDonJawn286d ago

Xbox was shown to be more profitable than ps

jznrpg286d ago

@PhillyDownJawn not more profitable. More revenue with ABK acquisition but them going multiplat shows they are not making much profit

ocelot07286d ago

That's great for Xbox gamers ain't it that Microsoft are more wealthy than Sony. Is that really a argument use are using now lol?

Imagine me in my job. Arguing with a fellow security guard at another company. Hahah well the company I work for is worth £800m the one you work for is only work £600m!

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Knightofelemia286d ago

Microsoft may have more money but Sony has the talented studios and the games to back up those studios.

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Chevalier286d ago

Plus turning down Marvel too. Spiderman is only exclusive to Playstation because of that

Hedstrom286d ago

Best deal deal in gaming must be when Sony bought Insomniac for 229 million dollars. They made over 800 millions on Spiderman for the ps4 alone. Thats just crazy!

XBManiac286d ago

More in the 1.000 million now.

gold_drake286d ago

another Interview?

how is he the only one who loves the spotlight as much as he does lol

Futureshark286d ago

Let's not forget he also famously passed on Spider-man, Genshin Impact and GTA3.

However it's almost kind of cute how he can keep that sh1t-eating grin and say he's a 'no regrets' kind of guy, especially when you think how much just these 5 titles could have swung the world in Xbox's favour instead of Sonys.

How he's kept his job I don't know, he must sure be keeping Papa Nadella's shaft warm somehow.

"But, but Gamepass, he introduced that!!!"

Yes he did, and now look at Xbox, all it's exclusives are coming to Playstation now rendering the platform obsolete.

DarXyde286d ago

Honestly, with that kind of track record, you can't convince me Spencer hasn't eaten it from the back in the name of self preservation. Probably unwashed...and at least twice.

That aside, my interpretation of everything here is Xbox has been mismanaged a bit too much and Nadella came down from his throne. The way it is now, I don't believe for a minute the multiplatform move was Spencer's idea. I don't even think the acquisitions was Spencer's work. At this point, I reckon he's got as much power in his role as Hunter Biden at a Ukrainian energy company.

DivineHand125286d ago

You can never tell how things will turn out if he had said yes to those games. Xbox already has access to some great IPs, however, they hardly do anything with them or fail to deliver. It's also possible their presentation wasn't good at the time, and they made sure the next presentation was better.

I believe that part of being successful is releasing things in the right place at the right time.

Many major corporations have a story similar to passing on successful business ideas. Let us look at Sony Pictures for example. Back when Marvel went bankrupt, they had the opportunity to buy the entire Marvel for only $25 Million but turned them down. An unnamed big shot at Sony reportedly claimed that “nobody gives a shit about any of the other Marvel characters,”. They ended up taking Spiderman for $10 Million instead.

https://www.avclub.com/sony...

Fast forward to today, we can see what the Marvel brand has done for Disney. Is it possible the same success would have been possible had Sony acquired those IPs. We can't say that for sure and it is possible most of those IPs that are successful today may not have been used.

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