What Exactly Is The Reason To Own An Xbox One?

Thekingslayer.com "In theory Phil Spencer and everyone who sees no issue with Xbox One Quantum Break no longer being console exclusive are right. Every gamer should get a chance to play a great title. Microsoft is in the business of focusing on Windows 10 and Xbox One. Yet, therein lies the rub. Where's the differentiation that makes the Xbox One a unique console and gaming platform of this generation? I'm reminded of what Sega did when they released the 32x, while having the Genesis still popular, and the Saturn on the way in the face of Sony introducing the Playstation brand. So long as you supported Sega it was ok whatever you played on. We all know how that turned out. Sure owning a PC gaming rig can cost. Yet, there are far efficient ways to having one these days, and what about mobile gaming that is growing daily. Quantum Break represented the final nail in the coffin to all the PR and miss messaging nightmares that Microsoft created for itself. In one day they eradicated their efforts...

[uth11]

Exactly right, this move dilutes the Xbox brand. I don't know what it is with this Microsoft obsession to deliver the same experience everywhere. It always backfires! Look at Windows 8.. "Let's put a tablet interface on a desktop PC so that PCs and tablets have the same experience. That failed spectacularly!

I hope Nintendo is paying attention to this, I think they'll have an opportunity to scoop up marketahare at xbox's expense if they play their cards right

[lipton101]

This is nintendo's last shot I think man. A failing, unprofitable investment such as the Wii U is an expensive mistake for a company to make (see sega). I'm sure they still have liquidity from their portable options and Wii, but 2 losing ventures can break a company, no matter how well they've done in the past. I personally do wish them all the luck though. They have to differentiate themselves to stay relevant in the current landscape. I hope they do.

[jholden3249]

The thing is, and I say this as objectively as I can, even now in the Wii U era, Nintendo has somehow managed to turn it into a profit. Now, they also have a very successful handheld platform, and that's not going away any time soon. They've never made an unsuccessful handheld.

If they can turn the worst generation they've ever had into profit, I wouldn't worry about this being their last shot. Besides, they've got more gold than Fort Knox, enough to weather 10 generations of Wii U's.

I think, and I could be wrong, but I think their strategy is to combine their home console platform with their uber-successful handheld platform and double the amount of software they can pump out, since they'll no longer need to produce separate games for each. Double software drives more hardware sales, which should already be expanded by the consolidation of the 2 platforms.

[pyroxxx]

Nintendo made so much money on dses and Wii ,.. they can afford to have gamecubes/wiius for next 5 generations

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Jhold and Pyro- they can't afford to keep losing billions in development and marketing buds.

I believe their best bet is to go exclusively handheld and become a 3rd party publisher/developer make games on all platforms, PC, PS4, XONE, their own handheld clearly, mobile.

Even 3DS is sell under DS. You can't just go from 103 million to 12 million and really consider doing it again, its just suicide.

Clearly not enough solely care about those Nintendo IPs to sell a console.

[_-EDMIX-_]

" I don't know what it is with this Microsoft obsession to deliver the same experience everywhere"

Because they own 2 platforms, why should they lose money on software to move units of hardware that make them LESS money?

What your asking them to do is, fail in one area.....to sell plastic boxes that actually won't for a fact make them MORE money.

This is like trying to tell someone to sell burgers because its "kewl" vs fries even though fries have a larger profit margin, yet get mad when they sell both.

So make less? LMFAO!

I'm sorry but many of you guys don't get business enough to get how brilliant this move is.

MS job is to make MONEY, not merely move plastic boxes as exclusives don't even move MOST consoles.

Go look up the top PS4 and XONE best selling games.

They are not all a FULL LIST of exclusives bud.

[FGHFGHFGH]

They want to move hardware because they make money on all third party games sold on xbox. Which makes up most of the xbox library. All pc copies of call of duty sold on steam or amazon or any of the other places to buy games doesn't get them anything. Plus they get subscription fees for live on xbox.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Your not wrong, but they will still move hardware based on 3rd party support.

Again...most are not buying consoles for JUST exclusives, in fact look at the top games sold thus far this gen to even really factor that in.

Thus...why lose large amounts of software sales and their footing in PC, to sell hardware that isn't even moving units based on exclusives solely and isn't even giving them MORE money then software?

I'm sorry but it just makes no sense.

They can still do both and I don't see them losing much hardware sales anyway.

The gains over take the loss by such a huge degree, they would be stupid to not do it and honestly...they've been stupid for years for not doing it from the very start.

Phil is very much showing them to not believe the BS other heads have been spewing about needing such things to sell consoles. The numbers of games sold that are NOT exclusives have shown otherwise bud, you know.....facts. They will be fine.

[rainslacker]

The premise of cross platform is fine. MS implementation of Metro was completely idiotic. Take the benefits of tablets, and throw them on a PC where it had those benefits already, but make it less intuitive to use, all while removing ease of multi-tasking. Whoever thought that up at Windows should have been fired. I think MS really thought their Windows Store would soar with Metro...which was the whole reason Metro was integrated to begin with, and they removed things like Widgets which were actually useful.

One platform is doing things better though, so at least they kept the principal and got rid of the shoddy implementation...and gave us back the start menu which was actually useful...with the new one being the best one they've had yet. Granted, actual support for one platform is minimal at the moment, so it's hard to say how much it will be adopted going forward. I have a feeling though it's going to go the metro route, and it's not going to be as robust as some people here imagine due to it's high level implementation. Most companies that offer a platform agnostic solution now use cloud based services to deliver the program to the user, because it is a lot simpler, yet keeps the benefits of a full program regardless of the device. No matter what you do, no matter the actual power of other devices, some things are going to be limited on a device which isn't a PC.

[SlavisH2]

lol n4g. So now QB is on PC xbox is not need? I'm a pc gamer but console people play for convenience. I love how now everyone on this site has a gaming pc but when I say i'll get the pc version because it will be better then the ps4 version you fangirls panties get sandy GFTO this is a bunch of undercover fangirls. This is win win for m$ and increase the chances a good game gets a sequel with still having limited availbilty. Just like street fight or killer instinct or Shenmue if it does. I hope halo and gear go too. I like when sony puts there series on other devices like ps3,vita, ps4. Options are better.

[Rookie_Monster]

Well said. bubble for making sense.

[uth11]

It's not just QB, it's almost every Xbox exclusive this year coming to PC

[Rookie_Monster]

CRACKDOWN 3, Forza Horizon 3, Gears 4 are still XB1 exclusives This year and how is MS releasing games on thier OTHER gaming platform makes XB1 gamers and the platform any worst? People that have the XB1 platform and 99% of the population that don't care or afford a PC rig capable of playing those games will continue to buy a cheap $300 console to play their XBOX games.

Those same tired phrases like "people will just play it on PC instead" doesn't pertain to the MAJORITY of the population. XB1 sold over 1.2 million consoles on both Nov and Dec NPD this past holidays, how may PC rig were sold that is capable of playing High end Games like Quantum Break were sold at that same time?

Quick answer, not many. People needs to put reality into perspective instead of hoping that XB1 will all of a sudden failed because a game is made available on a another MS platform that not many will have the spec to access to and not many will even care about. Jeeezzzz people. Smh

[maniacmayhem]

Good, who cares!

PC players get to play them and so do Xbox One players.

What's the problem?

[SlavisH2]

....so?

[DashArrivals]

I'm happy. I'm a PS4 console owner. Quantum Break looks prettyt cool. If it gets good reviews I'm buying for PC. I'm sure the game will, it looks pretty rad.

[Utalkin2me]

@Rookie_Monster

Like how he is always throwing his opinions of numbers out.

Just in the 900 series card which is DX12 capable (not supported) and could easily play Quantum Break. there is 7.73% of steam users owning one.

http://store.steampowered.c...

Now if we was to add the the 800 series too, which is also DX12 capable. Meaning being able to play Quantum Break. Im not talking supported, talking capable. The percentages would be alot higher and if we did ATI capable cards too it would be even greater of %.

So out of 125 millions users, thats a pretty good percentage users. And when DX12 games start coming out, then more then likely as previous statistics show. A good portion of people are going to upgrade.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Uth11- 100% agreed.

@Rookie - "CRACKDOWN 3, Forza Horizon 3, Gears 4 are still XB1 exclusives" Just like "ReCore, KI, Quantum Break are still XB1 exclusives"

I mean...haven't we heard that stupid argument before?

For now. As if you've heard thats NEVER going to change? Buddy...read what Phil Spencer is saying, if you are as much as a fan of MS as you claim, you would know his statements are sounding more so like he has zero plans to keep ANY GAME only for 1 platform.

Why cannibalize sales of software to move hardware that actually makes less?

Where are you hearing he is keeping some games only on XB1?

"99% of the population that don't care or afford a PC rig capable"

Irrelevant and clearly enough do to actually warrant such a move, yet 3rd party has no issue making money on the platform, get over yourself bud.

Because the state of PC gaming in 2007 stated that way for the entire gen right bro? Because NO one would have PC's by the end of that gen that could play Crysis right bro?

History would like to have a word with you lolz.

"all of this has happened before and all of it will happen again"

[Nivekki]

It is funny to see. I've seen quite a few articles about pc gaming where consoles are compared and you get loads of people slagging off pc gaming because 'it's too expensive', 'too much hassles', 'I love playing on the couch' and so on.

Then you see the same people saying they'll be getting the games on their 'gaming pc', when it suits them in certain articles.

[Mrgolden79]

Yes agreed. All you have to do is look above this comment and see the complaining people saying pc is too expensive, or that the majority of pc gaming rigs cannot play games when it suits their agenda. Shaking my damn head

[gamertk421]

Maybe, but that is the public opinion. If the majority think that, it becomes a real impediment.

[rainslacker]

True. But to me, it would be more that, while I prefer consoles, is it worth spending $350 for a few select games which I can forgo my preference for a while to enjoy them on my capable PC?

Answer is, yes, I could easily decide to play a game on the PC despite my personal preferences, because the experience is going to be mostly the same, with the only difference(in my case), being that I'll play on a monitor, and not sit in a big comfy recliner. Saving that $350 for the console itself is pretty good in my book....and I could actually buy a nice video card with that(which I'd need to do to play QB as mine is old...but that has other benefits for me both now and for the long term), or I could opt to simply buy more games.

I know what you're saying though. Some people do change their comments to suit their bias.

That being said, I'll just play the game on my X1, because I already purchased it, and no reason to dwell in the past so I can just enjoy the game/s where I see fit.

[rainslacker]

Think of it this way. For many, this won't really effect them, because they just prefer to play on console. However, there are gamers who play on both console and PC. For those gamers, they have no real reason to purchase an X1 now. For those with an adequate PC, yet prefer console, if it comes down to a decision between getting a console with actual games that can't be played anywhere else, and still have access to those Xbox games, then there is less impetus for them to spend extra money on the console, and instead can go for the console which will give them access to the most games.

Those are about the only two groups who this decision effects in terms of console sales. For those who just prefer console, they still have to make a choice between the ones available, and the console exclusive games will still be a consideration.

[TROLLER123]

why not bloodborne or uncharted or any other ps4 exclusive to pc then for more options? everyones ok with ps4 stuff staying on sony, but microsoft? bring it to the pc! tgat way we can pirate it and 'try' it to see if i like it. i'll buy it i promise. lol. xbox owners got shafted good. and i own one, but every exclusive on pc now? fuck that, no more xboxesm, i will just buy a pc and get them for free to 'try'

[Zoombael]

Sure, let's see this case totally isolated. Let no big picture view get in the way. Let's forget about the original Xbox One concept introduced in 2013. Of course you might want to protest, and say: "get over it, don't be resentful, whats the big deal, they've changed, bla bla".

What MS was trying to do was very revealing and the consequences are physically present till this day. Trying to enforce a useless plastic lump (Kinect) upon the customer. Hardware that did get no proper support last generation - and MS made clear they will continue this course -, was then introduced as a mandatory accessory, which raised the price of the hardware. Means compromises had to be made. Or: The reason why the X1 is significantly weaker than the PS4.

Their actions speak volumes. Their conception of hardware support is abysmal. They don't invest nearly as much in new IPs and concepts like Sony does. In the first half of 2016 there are no exclusive titles coming to X1. Except for Raiden V maybe and that only has a JP release date. Whereas the PS4 has over half a dozen titles and an new game changing technology with it's own set of exclusive games.

And if exclusives aren't important, why buy the weaker console?

So, why should someone see the need to buy X1? For those few mediocre same old same IPs?

"I love how now everyone on this site has a gaming pc but when I say i'll get the pc version because it will be better then the ps4 version you fangirls panties get sandy GFTO this is a bunch of undercover fangirls. This is win win for m$ and increase the chances a good game gets a sequel with still having limited availbilty."

Yea, and i love how all over sudden "PC gamers" routing for MS, "hooray MS, this good for the gamers, win win". On the other hand, when it comes to consoles and games it usually reads "no exclusives, no reason to buy, back when i was young it was 90% exclusives".

"Just like street fight or killer instinct or Shenmue if it does. I hope halo and gear go too. I like when sony puts there series on other devices like ps3,vita, ps4. Options are better."

Options are also a waste of resources, including the most precious one: Time.

[T1ttyMunch3r]

Because no pc can play the latest games for $300. Plus you dont have to maintain it by buying new graphics cards, ram, etc. Its also easy to connect to friends, no hackers, no viruses, no garbage softwares like ubistore, origin. What i have said above is better than getting extra pixels/ framerate/a little bit better graphics

[Mrgolden79]

I think the upgrade argument is vastly exaggerated. In reality, you do not have to upgrade most components for at least 5 years because pc games have the option to play at ultra settings or at low settings, something console games CANT do. The argument about hackers and viruses are greatly exaggerated as well, if you just play games, your risk of that is VERY low. It's only when you decide to go to shady looking porn sites or want to download games for free that you run into any risk. Plus, with pc you do not have to pay a monthly fee just to "connect to friends", online gaming is free the way it should be.

[rainslacker]

My video card is 5 years old. It was mid-range when I brought it. ROTTR is the first game that had it as a minimum requirement for any game I'm interested in.

A PC built/brought nowadays will easily last 5-6 years, as my computer is 5 years old, and will probably last me another 4-5. The biggest changes to PC hardware nowadays is really only in the GPU's, and developers are still catering to the lower spec'd chips because they are more ubiquitous. Newer RAM chips may be better, but DDR3 will serve people just fine for the foreseeable future.

PC has hundreds of ways to connect to friends or family, and it's not limited to the friends that only have the same platform.

UPlay and Origin exist on console, and people cheat in online games for the consoles as well. Viruses are about the only concern left to be honest, but a decent virus scanner and malware removal tool, free or otherwise, takes care of 99% of them if you don't just click everything that pops up on screen.

Consoles are easier to use, and a lower cost of entry, but most of the arguments I see against PC are simply people who are misinformed, and seem to hold onto notions dating back to the DOS and Windows 3.1 days. PC's certainly can be more problematic at times though, but hardly anything that would turn away most people if they actually knew that it's not the same crisis it may have been a decade or so ago.

[Automatic79]

This is getting old but I am going to shed some light on the subject and also use some examples.

Quantum Break is made for the Xbox One first and formost, the PC is a port. PC gaming with Windows 10 is an extension on Xbox gaming. So when Phil states that they plan on Making Xbox One the best place to play I believe him. Hence the reason for making the pre-order more enticing with a digital code for the Windows 10 version.

Further, I am all for Xbox One being supported with new IP's, sequels and as much games as possible.

I do want to go on record and say MS needs to be more transparent and upfront with the way they are launching their games. So I won't act as if they are right about the way they delivered the news. This back lash could have been avoided if MS would have stated Quantum Break Windows 10 exclusive from the beginning.

Next I want to use Playstation 4 as an example to further prove the practice of exclusives, specifically 80% of it exclusive going to PC (this is not just Sony but MS) and in Sony's case, to all its extensions, such as PSVita, PS3 and or PC. It is becoming standard practice for all gaming consoles to have more revenue from its games with games getting bigger and more expensive.

In 2016 PS4 will launch the following exclusives and most of the exclusives coming will be on PC, PS3 and PSVita or in the alternative have been on the said platforms.

Gravity Rush Remaster- Vita
Street Fighter- PC
Heavy Rain Remastered- PS3
MLB The Show 16- PS3
Valkyria Chronicles Remastered- PS3
Odin Sphere-PS3, PSVita
Guilty Gear Xrd-PS3
Final Fantasy Remake 7- PC
No Man Sky-PC

The only exclusives on PS4 are Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted 4(announced with dates so far). Note: Don't know if Horizon coming this year and the Last Guardian, Gran Turismo, etc. The list above represents confirmed games with set dates.

For Both Xbox and PS4 more then 80% of the Indies are on PC. The same applies to the Multiplatform 3rd Party games.

PC has many of its exclusives coming over to Consoles as well.

Overall getting upset at MS for bringing Quantum Break to PC, an extension of Windows 10 is pointless this will help Xbox gamers get more games in the future.

So for all those stating that there is no longer a reason to buy Xbox One. Please think long and hard about what you are saying and don't cherry pick Xbox One only but look at the overall picture of gaming on consoles. Support games my fellow gamers. Leave the bs behind. We have a long and healthy gaming generation ahead of us, please don't ruin it.

[Liqu1d]

Horizon, TLG and GTS are scheduled for 2016.

[Aenea]

I love how people think Windows 10 PCs are just another MS platform and equate it to Sony's PS3 and/or Vita!

[Tobsesan]

Because Windows 10 store is owned by apple right? Ps3,4 and Vita are sony platforms while Xbox 360, One and Windows 10 are MS platforms. Of course one could argue that Steam is its own platform, but if the games are only avalible at the MS Store itself its a nobrainer.

Also MS biggest competitors are Apple and Google and Sony isnt even close to that. They want to push Windows 10 to everyones PC. The Xbox One is also a Windows 10 device and Bill Gates said years ago they want to bring windows in peoples living rooms. This is why we see things like Crossplay/buy.

[bartender64]

Well, in this case it is, because quantum break is a MS owned IP, hence, there is no other way to play this game. if you don't own a win 10 pc with directx 12 capable video card and have access to the MS store with a live account, you cannot play on the PC, sure, you can buy a physical copy, but still, MS is the content owner of the game and you still need a win 10 PC to play.

You cannot play it on OSX, you cannot buy it from steam, and that's that. As far as I'm concerned, it is a MS exclusive, the same as PS games comming to vita and PS3. Matter of fact, with gamers having the choice to play PS games on samsung tv's via psnow, does that mean that PS is losing it's appeal? Does that negate or invalidate a purchase of one of the PS consoles? Further more, now that you can play PS games on other hardware other than sony's, does that mean that games aren't playstation exlcusives anymore? Help me, I'm puzzled here!

[Dark_Crow]

Windows 10....who does that belong to?

[Aenea]

PCs... which hardware manufacturer does that belong to??

[xasz]

These games will be released on their own store. Not Steam.

Who owns the Windows 10 store?

Who ends up getting the cut when 3rd parties release their software on the Windows 10 store?

[Aenea]

And BTW, I rather buy an Xbox One than a new expensive gaming PC, my current one can't be upgraded so would need to start anew.

But this move by MS kinda makes me wonder what MS's plans for the future are and makes me somewhat afraid for the future of Xbox consoles...

[Mrgolden79]

So.... What you're saying is...since I own a windows 10 pc, that is "an extension of Xbox gaming". So there's no reason for me to own an Xbox. Kinda the point of the article.

[bartender64]

No, it means, that is an extension, and as long as you have a pc with xbox o e, you have the option to alternate gaming platforms with things like cross buy and cross saves. Since when having options to either, play in the comodity and space of your living room or in front of a desk on your pc is such a bad thing!? Sometimes people gets tired of playing on the PC and want to go to the bigscreen TV to relax and keep playing there, better yet, you don't have to move or replace hardware. You have the option to play on the best settup that suits you. The way I see it, MS is rewarding people that have a PC and xbox one.

[Mrgolden79]

@bartender I never said that it was a bad thing. If that is what you're looking for, great on you buddy. For me personally I am happy with getting MS games on my PC without having to buy an Xbox. I'm not even interested in Quantum break, but I love having the option to play it on my pc if I want to.

[gamertk421]

Well, QB was shown before system launch. At that time, they probably didn't envision that PS4 would have about a 2:1 lead, nor that a timed exclusive like ROTR would perform quite so poorly. This is obviously reactionary to the current state of the generation. We've already seen a change in Microsoft leadership at the CEO and head of Xbox levels, so changes in business direction should be expected. I'm an Xboxer, but I see the brand eventually becoming a service and being PC centric.

[DigitalRaptor]

Lito, again, ignorantly casting doubt on the 2016 PS4 exclusive lineup.

HILARIOUS. Horizon: Zero Dawn, The Last Guardian are confirmed for 2016. Gravity Rush 2 is confirmed for 2016. Ni-Oh and NieR: Automata are confirmed for 2016 too. Crackdown 3 has gutted half the game so they can say it's coming out in 2016, and it will probably be on PC too (which they won't be honest about until it's announced). If you can call Crackdown 3's half a game - an exclusive, then GT Sport beta (if not the full game) and Dreams beta are valid inclusions in what additional PS4 exclusives are coming in 2016.

Trying to pretend as though PS4 has "80%" of its exclusives going to PC is hilarious. The discussion is that games that people thought were defining the Xbox exclusively and reasons they bought it, are now going to PC. You forget that it's normal that most consoles are around 80% multiplatform, but they need plenty PROPER exclusives. Xbox One is gaining towards 99% multiplatform status and that is terrible. It's not comparable to the NORMAL status of the PS4's exclusive lineup.

So the point is, Xbox One is becoming a console that is becoming 99.9% multiplatform and at a loss for identity. Trying to draw parallels between that and PS4's games coming from other platforms is one epic fail when you figure out that PS4 has so much more that is actually exclusive and comes to their FIRST-PARTY lineup. The vast majority of Xbox One's first party lineup in 2016 is coming to PC, you can't say that about PS4. I don't even think XB1 has any exclusive INDIE games. PS4 has several including What Remains of Edith Finch, The Tomorrow Children, Drawn to Death, Alienation and Shadow of the Beast.

Then you're forgetting the PSVR exclusives like RIGS, Until Dawn: Rush of Blood, London Heist. It has even more games to represent its level of true exclusivity over the Xbox so your comparison is limp, desperate and plainly thought out.

And again..... PS4 has been getting cross-gen "exclusive" games for years now. That hasn't spelled bad news for PS4. You see, we aren't discussing the impact of new-gen games having a last-gen versions here. We are discussing the impact of consoles being remembered for being 99.9% multiplatform. Xbox is in the process of losing its identity to PC.

You don't have to admit that Xbox is irrelevant to you, because it's clearly not, but the article represents a perfectly valid level of questioning. There are so many people out there that wonder why they should buy a console or continue investing in a console that has very few true exclusives - the things that DEFINE a console in the long-term.

[freshslicepizza]

answer this then, are you going to play the new hitman game on the pc or ps4? i find it hilarious how all of the sudden ps4 gamers are pc gamers because xbox one console exclusives are on the pc. you never did answer what percentage of ps4 owners are also pc gamers.

[majedx9]

people need to understand that ps3 and ps4 exclusives shearing is not like xbon and pc
no ps4 fan will call a ps3 gamer a filthy peasant!
some of the pc elitist call consoles gamer this all the time
so i understand why the xbon fans are mad.

[rainslacker]

Not sure what you're point is about the exclusives count. At least 90% of all games released for consoles are always multi-plat for multiple consoles or/and PC. That's nothing new. Probably 3 in 4 "exclusives" is usually multi-plat as well. Been like that for a while.

One of the major talking points of how people define which console is better is it's true 100% exclusive content, and often content which is semi-exclusive within the eco-system(PS3/4/Vita for example), and depending on the argument, the PC is either ignored or highlighted to say that it is or isn't an exclusive.

The point being, Exclusive content is a major talking point on why people should buy the console. If the majority of MS 1st/2nd party published games(which account for most of Xbox's true exclusives) are now no longer true exclusives, it does take away some of the weight behind the argument that you can only play them on the Xbox console itself.

I don't think there's anyone in these threads who isn't guilty of using the exclusive list argument to push their preference....me and you included. But it seems that now, the definition is being redefined as it's platform(win10) exclusive. However, when I say MS is publishing to a platform, instead of a console, I get disagrees for what I assume is people assuming I'm trying to troll the system.

What it comes down to, is that if MS makes all, or the vast majority of their 1st/2nd party published games available to PC gamers, it changes the entire argument on which console is the one that's worth getting.

There is still reason to buy an X1, or any console should one prefer. Consoles offer something different than PC's, and it is its own market. However, MS has removed potential customers from their console, because they have made more options available to play the actual game, and because of that, the Xbox console itself is going to take a hit. Maybe not a huge one, but a hit none the less.

On a side note,

how many PC gamers here actually say they game on a windows platform? Do you say you game on a PC, or do you say you game on Windows? The only people I've seen say that they game on windows are Xbox console gamers. Gotta admit though, MS did a good job at getting some people to say that Windows is what's important in the whole concept of PC(and console) gaming. But if you really look hard, it's only Xbox gamers who say this kind of thing.

Congratulations master race(not meant as an insult), you've just entered the realm of game console war bickering with Xbox gamers to show you the way. Welcome to the club.

[Zoombael]

Sure, to take only games with exact release dates is convenient. However, you forgot to apply this rule the console exclusives you've listed. There is no release date for FF7R, not even the year is determined. Same goes for No Mans Sky. June 2016 is all we got.

Why should it matter? Does it mean the game will be released 100% at this exact date? No. XCom2 was scheduled for November 2015. Got delayed. And it came out February 2016. So even if there were tighter release windows, it would be not guaranteed.

So there aren't only...

Uncharted4
Ratched&Clank

Btw. you forgot...

Shadow of the Beast
Alienation

but also...

Zero Dawn Horizon
GT Sport
Dreams
The Last Guardian
Gravity Rush 2
What Remains of Edith Finch
Nioh
Ace Combat 7
The Tomorrow Children
Valkyria: Azure Revolution

And whole bunch more with expected 2016 release (eg Rime, Wild, Wattam).

I'm not saying all of those will come 2016 or even that they will stay exclusive. But it's kinda ridiculus to name Uncharted and R&C, saying those are the only PS4 exclusives for 2016 because they are the only ones with exact release dates.

"We have a long and healthy gaming generation ahead of us, please don't ruin it."

Now that Microsoft is out of the way it definitely will.

[Lennoxb63]

The fact that you don't have to spend the amount of money for a used car for gaming device. And being able to play those games; no matter how demanding, on something a LOT cheaper.

[pompombrum]

Not everyone wants to game on a PC. Being able to lay in comfort on my sofa with a controller using the big tv in my living room is more than enough reason for me. Then there is Halo 5 which is probably one of the most fluid and fun FPS games released this gen so far.

[paranoid1971]

I'm pretty sure you can do that with a PC. It's how I play

[Mrgolden79]

Yeah man get with the program. I've got my PC hooked to my big 58 inch tv in my living room and been playing games with a controller on my sofa since at least 2005.

[Fin_The_Human]

You're nmissing his point.

Tell me did your PC come with a controller that you just plug and play or did you have to buy the controller separate and download drives for it....console gamers don't like mouse and keyboard and the controller is the second option when it comes to gaming on PC.

[Mrgolden79]

@fin_the_human

Yeah I dont think that was his point but I'll bite. I actually didnt buy a controller I used a 360 controller I already had. And yes it was plug and play didnt have to install any drivers at all. If you didnt already have one its cheap to get as well and just plug it in. The fact that you would even suggest installing drivers and the number of agrees you got just shows the ignorance of people on here.

[duplissi]

You can totes do that with PC... Xbox 360, Xbox One, and to a lesser extent the dualshock 4 controllers are all plug and play. You can plug your PC directly into your TV, or get a steam link. (Steam link is IMO the way to go).

No, what we have are people who do not care about having better graphics, performance, and resolution; They just want to be able to play the games they want with the smallest amount of up front effort. And you know what? Thats ok. PC gaming has made significant strides to being as simple as possible, but while 90% of the time its install and go, you will run into some games that need tweaking/troubleshooting.

I understand the sentiment, but I cannot relate to it. I've gamed my whole life, I love gaming, and I want to game in the best way possible, if that means a little more effort on my end, then so be it.

[Dirkster_Dude]

In the beginning when I was a teenager buying the first X-Box for Halo: Combat Evolved I bought it because I new I couldn't get it anywhere else. Over the years though I have come to buy consoles not for the exclusives but because I don't have to worry about owning a powerful big budget PC with ongoing upgrade and maintenance costs. For the next 5-10 years if it reads "XBOX ONE" on the box there is ZERO doubt I can play the game. I don't have to worry about whether my hardware can handle it. I think Microsoft understands this and the XB1 is a convenience with the ecosystem being more important in the same way iTunes can be utilized on the PC or iProducts.

[rmw2hot87]

Hopefully all the ps4 fangirls that owns a Gaming PC support this game. Remedy are great developers & deserves as much support as possible.

[DashArrivals]

I am a big fan of PS4. I'm really considering getting this game because it looks really great on Xbox One. I can play this at just above minimum on my PC. Hope the game does well.

[Mrgolden79]

Where are all these hot fan girls? I love me some hot girl gamers rrrrowr

[Mrgolden79]

Haha look at these disagrees... I guess no one likes girls up in this sausage fest

[Doge]

I bought Unravel on the Xbone even though I have a PS4 and a pretty beefy rig ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Vasto]

I guess the author thinks everybody owns gaming computers that are capable of running games like Quantum Break.

Spend $350 or $800-$1000?

#anothersillytopic

[paranoid1971]

You wouldn't need a massively powerful pc to run ant game made for Xbox one or ps4. You may have to spend a bit more than the price of a console but the benefits are immeasurable. Just access to Steams catalogue is worth the price.

[paranoid1971]

Disagrees? Really? How many console games can manage 1080 p and 60 fps? A handful at best. A mid priced PC can do this easily . Oh and online play is free on PC, games are a lot cheaper and the modding community is huge. So many benefits for a little more money.

[JamesBroski]

Exactly, two different markets. People who own a PC buy consoles to play exclusives, people who don't own a PC buy consoles to play games. A lot of people like the simplicity of "plug and play" consoles have and don't want to spend time fixing issues.

People here speak like every gamers play on PC and own consoles only to play a handful of exclusives.

[Whitey2k]

What sets consoles apart is exclusives that's what owning them are about if every games is set to go to the pc we all might aswell get a pc

[jholden3249]

What sets consoles apart is the convenience.

I didn't buy a Wii U, PS4, X1, 3DS and Vita because they had better exclusives than PC.

I bought them specifically because they weren't PC.

[DashArrivals]

Really great read and well written and it makes a lot of sense.

[neoandrew]

To play games?

For many people, a console is their main gaming platform, i'm choosing pc, as a main platform, but lets face it, there are sometime problems, drivers issues, windows updates, requirements.

So i totally understand that someone might not want to manage those issues on pc, they choose console.

And frankly, consoles sells more AAA titles, so it is not only exclusives, and it doesn't matter if a game is multiplatform, if you play on a console, that's your preferred platform, you just buy console version, even if it is on pc.

If there would be absolute ZERO exclusives, people would still play on consoles, that's their platform of choice.

[Toiletsteak]

The reason being it's cheaper then a gaming rig. Microsoft are allowing more people to play their games but as usual they are the bad guys.

[Hoffmann]

But is it really cheaper in the long run? :-)

You can buy a good enough PC for 600-700 bucks. An xbox one costs already 400 + the 40 every year to play online

= 440 in the first year but 560 after four years. + you can get games often much cheaper on PC than on xbl or psn.

+ you get more features for game slike the mods in fallout 4 as example + many more different games

And the year upgrading for a pc is thing of the past, upgrading each 3-4 years is usually enough these days.

[whoyouwit04]

You know I really don't see why people are bitching avout the way they are putting this on PC. They are giving you the PC version for free if you buy the xbox one version so why complain. on the other hand I do understand why some people will be upset if they put every single first party title on PC because their is nothing making the Xbox unique.

[harypotr]

What is the reason to buy a PS4? Bloodborne? You don't buy a console for only one game.

Until Dawn can be watched on youtube. Uncharted and TLOU can be played on a very cheap PS3.

I'm laughing at these articles against Xbox One. Like PS4 has all these exclusives to boast about, while it has not.

[Hoffmann]

Watching Until Dawn is really not the same experience as playing it for yourself in a dark room, alone.

[Clumpy]

I'll just shamelessly throw this in here: I bought a ps4 merely for Bloodborne and it was worth every penny.

[Stogz]

Wow could your damage control be any more obvious or pathetic than this comment?? It's honestly not that big of a deal, but you throwing out PS4 titles here reeks of desperation...grow up.

[CaptainObvious878]

There's more than those games on PS4.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

When are you stupid MS fanboys going to give it up? You just keep spouting pathetic opinions on PS4 games and I keep laying you down with facts. Just stop it.

[Malacath]

Anti PS4 rants are just as annoying as anti xbox rants though.

PS4 has some good exclusives although I hate bloodborne.

The same goes for xbox. I own both consoles and I find overall Microsoft do better multiplayer exclusives and Sony do better single player.

Hating a console just because you don't own it is sad

[Tobsesan]

Im a Pc Gamer for about 10 Years now with a good rig, yet i prefer to play alot of games on my Xbox. Its just a complete different feel to play on your couch. On my Pc im always in Teamspeak with my headset on sitting on a chair. Both have theire own audience and i dont see people going into gamestop asking for a gaming pc to play the newest Battlefield on 4k. People just need to realise that.

[DigitalRaptor]

You've had 10 years to setup your PC in a couch/living room environment.

I hope you're able to realise that.

[freshslicepizza]

you need to realize the marketplace for console gaming and not try and convince everyone they are now pc gamers because the xbox one has a lot of console exclusives. all because you have a hidden agenda to make sure the xbox one is not a viable platform because you prefer the ps4.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ Moldy

If he wants to game on consoles how can anyone take that away from him? His reasons for gaming on console, he can easily adapt his PC setup to be able to do the same thing. That was my point. Let's not pretend that you can't. We don't need you trying to pick apart what I'm trying to say, when all you need to look at it what I actually said.

[Bobafret]

Sorry but a gaming PC in the living room looks super white trashy, unless you go out of your way to get the smallest low profile case, which then limits the hardware you can go with.

[RIPWiiU]

Fake pc gamer spotted.

[CaptainObvious878]

If you have a gaming PC, why wouldn't you get a PS4?

[conanlifts]

I recently bought a pc and have been playing older Games like alan wake, mass effect etc in 4k on my tv with my xbox one controller. That was the reason i purchased it.although to be fair i didn't go into gamestop for anything.

[hiawa23]

Why I own an Xbox One? Well, it is simple. I am not into PC gaming at all, the consoles are good enough for my tastes.

The Xbox original which I still play was my console of choice even though I owned a Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, the Xbox 360 was my console of choice even though I owned a PS3 & Wii, and so far the X1 is my console of choice even though I own a PS4 & Wiiu. I like the Xbox franchises as I do with the Nintendo and Sony, not attached to any of the console makers like some rabid fanboys we have seen lately especially after MS decided to go Windows 10 & Xbox with releases. Life too short for that, and lets be real, these are just games, not all that important in my grand scheme of life, but I absolutely love what MS has done with the X1 since the launch debacle. I like everything from the OS, video/capture, LIVE, apps, controller, and the graphics compared to the PS4 in my eyes are minute, so I hope MS continues with the Xbox platform as I prefer it to the other two console makers, but if they don't, Well, I will be fine with that also, as I will just get me a Win 10 device & will be fine with that.

[Hoffmann]

Where is the big difference anymore though if the most Xbox games are also available for PC and you can play them with an xbox or a similar controller and thanks to the TV's of today you can also easily connect your PC to TV's and play PC games from the couch in the living room like they would be a console.

That all while you don't have to pay extra for XB Live, while you have a ton more games available on PC, usually with more features, mods and better graphics and also the great big sales on Steam.

I have a PS4 too, but in cases like Fallout 4 I bought the PC version while playing the game in the living room. Alone because of the mods already.

PC gaming these days is like console gaming, only the hardware is different, the games are the same.

[hiawa23]

I think that was part of the point I was making. Now if we want to go PC, they even look like consoles, now, so that too is an option going forward if MS pulls the plug on the Xbox.

[FoxyGotGame]

There's just way too many (alleged) Gamer's on all sides of the equation all too willing to cripple gaming for no damn good reason.

Certain groups are crowing that Other Gamer's on a Non Competing platform get to enjoy Quantum Break ..a game that's from a 2nd/3rd party studio, yet there was less crying when Gears Ultimate got announced ...a 1st Party Game, from a 1st Party studio. SMH /

[sovkhan]

To play the worst versions of both multiplats and ms/exclusives i guess... //S intended, but with some truth in it ;)

[GearSkiN]

reason for owning Xbox one is because I have more friends who plays on consoles, the games. plus I travel a lot so I take it with me wherever I go!

ps I also have a ps4! currently waiting on SFV

[Wallow]

Some people buy consoles for exclusives, but I believe a majority of console users are casual so they buy it to play COD with their bros. The people who bought the Xbox for it's exclusives however seem to be losing their reason for buying it.

[DivineAssault]

Ive been trying to figure this out for a couple years now.. I want to get it eventually but theres not much they can offer that intrigues me at the moment..

[jmc8888]

See that's the point. You have been thinking about it for a couple of years now and haven't gotten it. It means people like you and me aren't likely to get it.

Though I made my mind up quite a long time ago that it just wasn't worth it for me. Halo isn't enough.

Wii U, PS4, PC... where is there a place for another machine so similar to everything else? There isn't. Not likely. They'd have to have numerous games I want badly that I can't play anywhere else, and they simply aren't likely to have that.

Why buy a machine that plays all the same games I can get on PS4 and PC? Why on earth would I buy a X1 and then a game for it, and potentially XBlive when I have two more powerful options to play the same game? Thus it is only exclusives that can entice me.... and quite frankly, that's a small slice of games.

Of that small slice of games, MS only controls about half of them. They couldn't keep Ryse or Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare or Titanfall solely to XB1.

MS is in this or a similar boat with many of us. The stark reality is, they aren't going to get our business this generation. It's a hard sale. It simply is. Spend hundreds of dollars and pay for Live for a couple of games a year you may or may not like.

Or they could do what they are doing and put their games on PC. Now they have a platform again to sell us games.

Suddenly I'm a gaming customer of theirs again.

That's just the reality of it. MS made their bed, now they have to lie in it. I already have three gaming options, and a 4th one that adds almost nothing new to the table is not worth the money to me and most others.

Thus the hurdle itself is the Xbox One and its price. Get around that and I'm their customer again. Plus it gives people a reason to stay with Windows via Windows 10, and keeps people in their ecosystem to buy stuff via Windows Store. They want us to buy games from Windows Store like we used to from XBLive. Basically same thing, different machine.

It also brings you back into the fold and helps restores their name to us. Now I've always said that their next system I'll look at objectively to buy just like anything else. But some people aren't that way. If between now and then people buy games on the Windows store, and keep up with Microsoft IP's... then you are coming back to and staying in the fold and are ready to jump back into their next console. It's a lot easier to sell a console to such a person then someone who stopped buying MS products and didn't touch them for 5-6 years and lost track/stopped caring about their IP's.

[DivineAssault]

I like collecting all consoles but since bioware /EA is multiplat now, i really dont have any reason to invest my money into their products.. Im not saying theyre hardware sucks but i can get more bang for my buck going with PS4.. Virtually all the same games with higher resolution, better out the box controller, & faster disc installs... As well as a better design... 360 was the last system i bought from them.. I might get xb1 if they make a slim model w a promotion but i honestly dont have any interest in their games besides rare replay..

[BumpFrankie]

If you've spent $1500+ on a gaming PC and you enjoy the more focused/engaging aspect of playing games on the PC then there really isn't much reason for the Xbox One if MS continues to bring all of their exclusives to Windows 10. If you don't have a beefy gaming PC and you enjoy a more laid-back and relaxing couch gaming session then having an Xbox One still makes perfect sense. I am not upset at all that MS are bringing their exclusives to Windows 10, they are both MS platforms and honestly I've always wanted this to happen. Some game types I enjoy much more on the PC and others I enjoy much more on a console. Now this gives people more options to how they want to experience those games. Are you somebody who has been trying to decide to make that large $1500 gaming PC purchase? Maybe these games are some of your most highly anticipated and you want to play those at a much higher graphic fidelity in a more focused and engaging way so making that big purchase may come more easily. This could also be the beginning of Xbox One & PC cross-play which could be amazing. I do agree that it has to feel pretty bad if you are someone who already owned an expensive gaming PC and decided to throw down that extra $350 just to play these exclusives and it turns out you can now play them on your PC that you've had from the beginning.

[Hoffmann]

1500 + is not even needed anymore, even for the half of that you get a machine together now that can play games like Witcher 3 or Fallout 4 on good settings. Especially if you buy some parts used

[MachuchalBrotha316]

How much would it take then? I just did a build on Microcenter.com with parts to max out QB at 1080p and run it at 4K. And Im at $2300 without 4K monitor,keyboard,mouse, with that Im at $3000.

[jmc8888]

Depends on what you buy. You don't need to 'max' everything. In fact trying to 'max' everything is where you are probably going wrong.

You can usually get near max for half or 1/3rd the price of max.

A GTX 970 and a decent i7 CPU.

You can bring a mouse/keyboard over from a previous computer.

Heck you can do that for hard drives and computer cases too. Though usually I do give each computer I build a new case.

4k monitor? Why not go 4ktv? Personally I went with a P series Vizio 55" and got it for $799 in September. It also can do 1080p/120.

Also now isn't a good time to buy a high/medium end GPU with the new double node jump and HBM going to hit later this year. I know the whole 'always something better'. But this looks like it's going to be the biggest leap in quite a few years, so this time, if any, might be the best time to wait on the GPU front. Just get something akin to the PS4/XB1 for $80-150 on the GPU front and replace it with a good one when the new ones come out.

You also can take time and wait for deals and buy the parts over a month or two timeframe.

It all depends on what you are looking for and what you added to things. You don't need a SSD to game. Is it nice, yes. You NEED an SSD for your OS. Use cheap mechanical drives for most games. You can always buy another SSD later for some select games.

There are so many options and you just have to know what is needed, what isn't, and what you are trying to go for.

Whatever PC you build, if it's halfway decent, you'll be able to upgrade the GPU a couple of times and make it pretty much brand new again gaming wise. So I'd say just get a $279-400 GPU every two or so years.

A GTX 970 can play plenty of games at 4k, and does great at 1080. Maxing games is for those with 2-3 GPU's. Personally I'd rather play with a low implementation of AA or none at all rather then buy two more expensive GPU's so I can have MSAA8x. Settings aren't equal. Some take a lot of power for not much gain.

[rainslacker]

@jmc

i5, or even i3, would be more than sufficient for the average user, both for multi-tasking and games. There isn't a great benefit to going to i7, even when those lines were new. i7 is more beneficial to the productivity user who needs lots of multi-threading, and most games don't take advantage of multi-threading within the CPU. Many of the initial i7 benefits are somewhat implemented in the i5 now as well, with the i3 being more a low end option, but plenty powerful for gaming nowadays.

RAM is cheap, and you don't need the best DDR3 RAM to make a computer run effectively. More is probably better for the long run. However, even the high end DDR3 isn't much more expensive.

KB/Mouse you can get on the cheap, particularly if you plan to use a controller anyways, although probably worth investing in a good mouse for gaming, but one doesn't need that right away.

Use the TV for a monitor, since it's actually a good way to play PC games, and you could even cut back on the video card a bit if you do this unless you have a 4K TV and wish to display at 4K.

For those starting out in PC gaming, the mid-range stuff right now, with a good 1080p TV(or 4K if you have one) is going to blow them away if they're used to consoles.

Over time, one can upgrade as they see fit, but the cost of entry can easily be gotten down to around $600 for a PC that will last someone 4-6 years before needing to upgrade if you're willing to not go balls to the wall from the start, and begin your PC gaming life on the living room TV. Even when upgrade time comes, you would probably only need to change the monitor, as by then, changing RAM/CPU will likely require a compete system rebuild.

[shabz666]

My main reason is gears and halo. Halo 5 is pretty good on mp side and hopefully gears delivers.

I don't want Ms to leave the console race their competition with Sony has really heated up. I like them fighting for my interest and money.

[Hoffmann]

Good point. Competition is usually good for us consumers.

[ritchi45]

To answer the title question: not everyone has/can afford a pc powerful enough to run games at a decent frame rate.

[sle7enn]

It's actually the best looking decoration in my house. No seriously though, it's an extremely effective paper weight. It's soo good that you can't even see the paper when it's in action.

You can get a gaming rig prebuilt at a good price that can run games as well as consoles do.

[Bobafret]

No, you can't. A gtx970 alone is $300. Stop lying about gaming rigs being cheap.

[The_Truth_24_7]

No need to buy an Xbone now or ever for that matter.

[dreadz74]

I have a PC and Xb1 also Ps4 I will not sell any of em. To get a good PC rig you have to spend more than $350 much more. Cod,Witcher 3,GTa,Nba 2k16,fifa,ROTR and so many multi-plats are already on PC yet Console sales of these games destroys PC sales . So anybody thinking these games on PC will kill Xb1 game sales are so wrong no evidence proves this. This will= more game sales more investments and more gamers getting to play games.

[StormLegend]

With Tomb Raider on PC/PS4 and now QB is on PC as well, I see no reason to buy one. Maybe for the system features? That's all it has. Scalebound coming way in 2017 and the other small exclusives don't even have gameplay so yeah I wouldn't buy it.

[Nivekki]

'Travis3708 + 41d ago
I'll never switch to PC, unless it gets the games I want.

You can keep your
60fps
4K
BC
Steam deals
and whatever else PC gamers brag about.

I play only Sony & Nintendo, because both have the games I like to play.'

So you'll never be playing Quantum Break then. Xbox gamers and pc gamers will be, but you'll never play it, you won't be playing it on your ps4.

The news about it coming to pc doesn't affect you, so would never have affected if you were going to buy an Xbox One anyway. You were never going to be a customer for them.

[thexmanone]

My answer is simple, Its better then the PS4.

Thats my opinion.

[MasterCornholio]

I agree that it's just your opinion.

Nothing wrong with having one though.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

You can't go in Walmart and buy a $300 less console with three games, a controller, headset... You guys are making this hard because you want to continue with the fanboy console wars. Microsoft already said the Xbox is bigger than a console. It is hardware and a service.

[Hakoom]

to play forza 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12... 100
and halo 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12.... 100

[MasterD919]

WTF is with all of these Xbox One hating articles again? Move on already!

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Seems we have people scared of the prospect of facing the combined effort of two Windows 10 devices (Xbox and Win10 PC). People want to continue latching on to console wars.

[Scatpants]

It's because it is so hateworthy. I have one so I'm more impartial than the average person, but there are so many valid reasons to hate on it. My main reason is maybe 1-3 games I want come out on it each year and all others would be better played on a different platform.

[MasterD919]

I suppose I am impartial too as an owner, but it just seems like Microsoft releasing a major game or two on Windows 10 platforms is allowing the Sony fans to just destroy MS. If Sony had an operating system on PC, they may have chose to do something similar with their games to reach as many gamers or consumers as possible and get the best of both worlds. I won't comment on Sony's IPs or exclusives as I have my own opinion on their games.

I was a Sony fan in my early gaming years, but I don't think Xbox is nearly half as bad as people make it out to be, and articles that criticize the console are just ridiculously biased nowadays. It's a great machine through and through. If Sony is selling more- great, but why trash something that works for millions of people?

[Scatpants]

The main problem is that the system is weaker than it's main competitor therefore any multiplat games would most likely be better on PS4. Now one of their only selling points, exclusives, are also available on PC so if you have a decent PC then the system to buy would obviously be the PS4.

[jmc8888]

Simple... if you want a console experience that is easier, quicker, and cheaper... buy Xbox One.

If you want an experience with more options to suit the needs and preferences you may want, yet is more expensive... buy/build a PC and play Microsoft games on Windows 10.

Microsoft putting it's games on both, doesn't change anything.

If you wanted an Xbox One because it was easier, it still is.

[Lamboomington]

This might be news to many people, but not every console gamer has a gaming PC. Infact, the majority aren't going to have a gaming PC. In other words "I buy an XBONE for the exclusives" is still going to hold true for most people !

For some reason, after QB came to windows, suddenly every console gamer has a gaming PC or could easily get one, and every argument is made with this presumption.

[vikingland1]

It's the only argument they have , no matter how flawed.

[maybelovehate]

Even though I mostly game on PC these days, I still think the x1 is a great value. Building a good gaming PC isn't exactly cheap. To have a PC that runs games well you will be investing a lot of money. And to make that experience comfortable even more. I think the best way to look at the X1 is that it is a very reasonably priced gaming PC that will be almost impossible to match for value.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

For $349 you get a gaming machine that is straight forward in its use and capability. You won't get a gaming pc that likely compares for under $500. The xbox is a consumer friendly game platform...you certainly can go build your own pc or buy off the shelf and have it more capable but the cost won't compare and depending on the route you go likely the ease of using will also vary greatly. Now for all those with gaming rigs ....you are all set to get some great games and MS'S only requirement for you...you must have Windows 10 to run the game. That's the trade off they are willing to make with PC gamers.

[ASBO-5]

Well there's....... Um.... huh, well i'll be damned there really isn't a reason to ow one!

[_LarZen_]

"What Exactly Is The Reason To Own An Xbox One?"

The same as it has been for years? You don't own or have a PC that is for gaming. Or you don't want to game on a PC.

You like the Xbox brand and everything that implies with controllers and user friendliness. And ofc the games available on the console.

I find it hilarious how people think and twist everything into that everyone has a gaming PC and that now the XBO is irrelevant because some games are also coming to Microsoft's other big gaming system...Windows.

As a pc and console gamer I find that way of thinking to be plain stupid and a narrow minded typical elitist PC dumb head's way of thinking.

End of discussion.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

We know what kind of gamers are asking these stupid questions over and over again.

[dip321]

I am both a ps4 and Pc owner. I can honestly bet half the people claiming to play QB on pc are the ones who commented on a pc article how they love consoles for the ease of use and will never game on pc.
Here is why you would buy a xbox : To play win 10 exclusive games in a cost effective way .
Why you would buy a ps4 : For playing Naughty Dogs , Guerilla made games.
Why you would buy a gaming pc : To play win 10 exclusives and multipartform games in a higher fidelity and greater performance , plus steam exclusive games.
Why can't people have different choices ? Damn the idiotic fanboys here.

[Orionsangel]

I have both consoles and PC. It's better to have the best of both worlds. You never know what will be announced for either console down the road.

[YourGreatUncle]

I'm trying to find a reason to own. I really want Scalebound but not enough to purchase a new console for. I'm interested in Crackdown 3 but it's not a must play for me. The rest of its exclusives are just meh to me. Never been a big Gears, Forza (or racing sims in general), or Halo fan.

[OneLove]

I don't really get it. You can stream your Xbox games to Pc, so its not really that big of a difference.

[Yourmommasaid]

Or maybe, just maybe the game itself costs more than it should and they're cutting their losses. To "profit" from Quantum Break, Microsoft HAD to release it on PC simply because there aren't enough Xbox One?

[sle7enn]

its okay

[343_Guilty_Spark]

You get two copies of the game for $60. It's as simple as that. The synergy between Xbox One and Windows 10 PC is better than PS4-PC.

[Picnic]

I hope that this direction is all about how the next Xbox will be a non-fixed PC in a box that you can plug extra Xbox branded parts in to bring it up to the level of the best possible PC if you have the money.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Next Xbox will probably have even more PC centric parts and basically be an entry level box into future Xbox gaming. Games will be universal and scale to hardware. I don't think the console will be modular.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

While I tend to agree...a modular console is kinda holy grail territory for gaming.

[NeoGamer232]

I have a Gigabyte P37x gaming laptop, Surface Pro 3 i7, Lumia 950 XL, iPod, and iPad Mini. I use each for different things.

But the reason I own Xbox Ones is:

1) Effort - The effort to set them up is nothing. Unwrap and go
2) Cost - Although I can build PCs as cheap as X1, buying X1 takes no time, and it is warrantied fully as they built it
3) Windows 10 - Since X1 and PC run Windows 10 we are now seeing games cross buy between them like Quantum Break. If I had PS4 and Windows I would have to buy the games separately for each platform.
4) Family - My family is not as computer literate as I am so Xbox One is a easy way to get the computer in the living room without having the maintenance associated with a computer

[frankdrebin72]

Some reasons..
It's far easier and cheaper to own an Xbox than a high spec PC.
It's cheaper for us that have more than one Xbox one in the home..Ie your children may have one each.( that's four in this household!)
Would you let your children loose on your gaming rig un supervised?
No need to worry about security issues and viruses every time you go online.
Space,..how much do you have, can you have multiple Gaming PCs around your home?
Ease of use, and simplicity especially for young gamers.
Financially viable, you get your money's worth in the life span, how many gaming PCs have issues vs a consoles lifespan.
Cross play.
Backwards compatibility.
Gaming community.
Friends.

[jonivtec]

Because its not expensive and have good games....stupid click bait.I know im stupid to because i take time to comment :)

[Scatpants]

Forza, Halo, Sunset Overdrive. That is just about it. Mine is awesome at collecting dust though.

[ocelot07]

I was confused when this was announced a few days ago. But now I sort of like the idea. Am hoping when it comes to releasing a new console. Microsoft don't release a typical game console. They release something like a steambox under the xbox name.

Or even a piston style PC. Where it's small and is extremely easy to upgrade. So every 2 or 3 years they can release a upgraded component for gamers. So they sort of keep up with PC gamers.

By doing this Sony will also do this. Meaning PC and console games will be better optimized. The only thing dividing the Sony console and Microsoft console is exclusives.

Thinking about it. I really want this to be the future of gaming. PC's being what they are today. But consoles that are easily upgraded when they need to be.

For people who don't know what a Piston PC is take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/wat... at 40s mark they show how easy it is to remove parts and replace them.

[Kojjikaneshiro]

I'm a console gamer,have been and always will be.Are PC's superior yes of course they are.They are also more expensive.To each their own though.I enjoy consoles so that's what i like to own.I enjoy my XboX One and enjoy it thoroughly,it's given me exactly what i paid for.Tremendous fun with my friends online and than some.Of some like PCs good for them,do PS4s that's great too.I love my XboX and that's that.

[Plasmids]

Plenty of reasons to own all the consoles if you can afford it in my opinion.

[II__BONE__II]

Could you list for me all the reasons for owning an Xbox 1?
Just asking.

[Plasmids]

Well to be honest I sold mine a while ago but I'm seriously thinking about picking another one up as I really like the look of Quantum Break and Gears.

My ps4 will always be my main gaming console as I love Uncharted, TLOU and Bloodborne etc so I guess what I'm saying is if there's games on both and you can afford it I say why not.

My only issue is time though as it's hard to fit in so many games just on one console never mind two.

Great time to be a gamer.

[guywazeldatatt]

It has amazing games coming out this year, great customer support, a cheaper price point than the PS4...I could go on. Both are great but to say there's little reason to own one is just stupid.

[amiga-man]

LOL reaching or what.

[guywazeldatatt]

how is the PS4 so much better?

[amiga-man]

Well it is outselling the xone by a 2-1 margin, so there must be something.

Exclusives are an important reason to own any console, whichever way people try to spin it, this is further diluting the reasons to own an xone.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Ubisoft released a report stating that for every $1 the make on PS4, they make $1.25 on Xbox. I wonder why that is given the 2:1 hardware sales gap. Maybe just maybe hardware isn't the end all be all.

[amiga-man]

Whatever, there are plenty of reports showing the PS4 software outselling the xone by a huge margin, some of the christmas numbers were massive, I'm sure developers will be happy targeting the console with twice the install base.

but cling to your ubi report if it helps.

[1nsomniac]

... Maybe because you want a console & you have the right to a personal preference without any of this silly "my consoles better than your console" nonsense.

Never understood the mentality myself. I don't have an XBone either but that's only because Microsofts disgusting decisions prior to launch.

[II__BONE__II]

I owned an original Xbox and was like meh,..that was enough for me.
I don't know what it is about MS products but I haven't had any luck with them.
Windows is crap, Evey MS Keyboard I bought failed and the letters wear off on the keys. This has never happened on my Logitech KB. Every mouse I owned made by MS tracked horribly.and the Webcams were god awful.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

My reason is all my friends play Xbox, I prefer it as a brand, love the controller, the menus, the features and apps.
Most of all, I enjoy my time on it far more than any other consoles which literally just gather dust.

[battlegrog]

Umm because not everyone wants to game on a pc. Blows my mind go so many people are obsessed with numbers. You buy a console for the simplistic idea and cheap. So smart for ms to habe it's system be on w10 and xbkx turkey console.why does Noone hsve a problem with steam havung pre made consolation or make your own pc.itd sorta thr same idea. It's smart it's called more options. More gar sales means a lot more money then selling a hardware console. Yet can sell a lot if xox controllers over pc an xbox console

[Kyizen]

If you own a PC, PS4 you get 90% of the great games out there. If you have kids or enjoy games with minimal story gets a Wii U. Xbox one has great games but as it stands all the 'exclusives' are on PC with better framerate, textures and resolution so yeah...

[dcbronco]

Jack Tretton said $299 was the consumer sweet spot for consoles.

http://m.ign.com/articles/2...

Funny that suddenly PlayStation fanboys want to move it up to $900. That's probably about what you'd pay for 1080/60 DX12 experience. Most console gamers, the vast majority, usually waits to get below $299. But you can go on thinking they will suddenly spend $900. That is completely logical.

[rataranian]

I think the real reason above all is to play games with your friends. I dont own this console.
Out of everyone I talk to that owns an xbone theyre all satisfied with the console. Because at the end of the day all they really want is to play Halo with their friends. There may be a few other games like Gears of War or Forza. To me I need a technical power house of gaming. The absolute top of the line machine. So I am one of those people that has spent 5g on a pc. And not even once. Every 2 or 3 years. Just because thats what I do. But not everyone can do that. Or even wants to. Some just like to get on with their friends they never get to see for a few hrs and mindlessly shoot things. Thats a good thing I think. If it does what you want it to do then good.

[rockingchairdad]

As I have said before the original xbox got me back into gaming. I have a xbox one, wii u, and this weekend just picked up a ps4. Playing bloodborne right now. The main reason I have stayed with xbox is because I have friends who I like playing with. I can see if you never had an xbox why you would not need one though. Any tips on some games for the ps4? My gamer tag is albinotreehugger. Thanks

[Drakul]

for a week i have seen xbox promo news and articles on this web site....

[forgetmenot]

There is still a reason to own a xbox one

[sdplisken]

microsoft is getting slaughtered worldwide in sales for the xbox one plus poor sales of all its exclusives aside from halo.

Releasing xbox one games on pc tells me they have no faith in their own product and are desperate to gain sales.

if you like the xbox one and the controller/ halo/forza etc thats fine just dont go on the interwebs bragging about it because you will get slaughtered lol

worst versions of mulitplats
barely any true exclusives and the future looks just as bleak
gears of war 4 pc release date is imminent

[frankdrebin72]

You sir are,.......how can I say this,.....in a nutshell, you are what is known in adult circles as a tit.

[GrmpyolGamer]

Xbox has been my console of choice since 2001. If MS announce that Gears, Halo and forza are also going to PC then for me there really is no reason to own a xbox.

[amiga-man]

What if it's just Gears and Halo?

[GrmpyolGamer]

Then I might have a reason to keep my xbox because I love forza and play it alot

[Segata]

TV Sports and Call of Duty?

[DEAGLETURK]

Sony and microsoft should built one console together

[dougr]

I use mine as a netflix machine in my workout room. I've had it for about 4-5 months, never used it for games yet (traded my Wii U on CL for it). I have played Forza on a friends, so I will probably get the next on that comes out and that crackdown game. Other than that though, probably nothing.

[antikbaka]

easy question - there is no.

[conanlifts]

The pc vs console debate is ridiculous. Firstly you do not build a pc that can play quantum break for $600. Also what about the rest of the world, prices are not the same outside USA. Graphics cards like gtx 970 cost more than an xbox one.
Next we have 18 million xbox ones sold. How many of those people do you think have the capability or knowledge to build a pc. Not many i would say and buying a pre built pc for gaming at a favorable price would be difficult.
While people always bring gold into the equation, yes it costs money but you get 4 games per month for the xbox one ( 360 b/c included).
Yes pc games are cheaper but you cant sell them.
With costs a pc uses double the electric and over a year the extra cost is probably not far off that of paying for gold. Xbox one games coming to pc is a good thing.
For the record i own a gaming pc, xbox one and ps4 and i am not a biased fan.

[ziggurcat]

"What Exactly Is The Reason To Own An Xbox One?"

uh... to play games?

[PistolsAtDawn]

It's a fantastic console...that's why. I have all the consoles and it's actually my favorite. I'm really not sure why X1 games being on PC are a big deal when PS games on PC aren't. If anything that's a plus for X1..that means wider audience to contribute to the demand and profit for MS games...which will benefit the console AND PC...seems like a win-win for MS and gamers to me. Bet money if Sony/Nintendo had the same opportunity they'd do the EXACT SAME THING. People pretending that Console exclusives being on PC are a huge deal are forgetting several things... 1) The last two Gens, 2). The VAST majority of PS "exclusives" are on PC, 3). you can't really pick and choose when PC is part of the console race, why is it ONLY part of the console race when X1 exclusives are concerned, then dismissed for Multi-Plat and PS exclusive games? And why doesn't it count when counting pixels? (PC vs Consoles is really the only difference that means anything anyway).

X1 Is doing great, I'm not sure why people are suddenly pretending that people would rather Spend $1500 on a PC that would barely play games better than a console (and hopefully you have a good monitor) than $500 (for console, game, and live.

At the end of the day, I think we can all see that 99% of people pretending this is a big deal are people that already have no intention of getting an X1 anyway...and just trying to justify their bias...otherwise it doesn't make sense. How do you go from being a console gamer...to suddenly a PC gamer just because a game is on PC AND Console? ...wouldn't that person have already jumped ship to PC for ANY Multi-plat if that was the case?

[Elda]

I'm not trolling just being honest I have yet to see myself wanting to buy an XBO.I have only seen one game that I wouldn't mind playing since the XBO has been on the market & that's Scalebound.I'm not forking over 350 dollars just for that game.

[DillyDilly]

Why exactly is The Sony Defense Force so focused on the Competition instead of supposedly enjoying a Console they do have ? Scared guys or maybe most dont actually own a Next Gen Console System so here they are

[Artemidorus]

They ditched the camera, changed the controller and now provide many console exclusives to PC. Worst Xbox ever period.

[lunatic0001]

i dont mind sharing games with pc gamers...the more...the better...but they should at least lay out the schedule about which games are coming to pc as well...just let out and say gears 4 has a chance on coming out same day as xb1 version...halo 5 is coming to pc...etc...so that way people wont feel butt hurt and not drop news like this just a couple of months before release...xb1 owners Still get to play the game...its not like the xb1 version is no longer going to be available.

[SaveFerris]

For the updates? /s

All kidding aside. The Xbox One plays games and Kinect, right?

[jstark]

im sure 90% of people that are agreeing with this article do not even own a gaming pc or do not have any interest in one

[Germany7]

If you are a gamer who likes to own all devices to play all the exclusives avaliable, there are few reasons to own a Xbox One at the moment.

[Captain_TomAN94]

There just isn't one besides you are biased towards XBOX. In no way does it have more exclusives, and on average they are not rated as highly.

That's why it is getting pile drived more and more as time goes on.

[Izalith]

For me it is only the Elite controller and the true console exclusives that aren't on PC/X360. Without them I would sell the Xbox One's I have.

But Xbox fans said and promised me Quantum Break was indeed meant to be a title that was one true exclusive (Only On Xbox One tag on the box cover) that wasn't on PC/X360.

[jb227]

Isn't the elite controller compatible w/ PC?

[Izalith]

It is, but you need an adapter you must buy to make it compatible for your PC.

[Rhythmattic]

So, It is.

[kenwonobi]

Idk. I've been asking myself this question all generation.

[Tedakin]

I have a win10 gaming pc and will still play it on Xbox because it's simpler. Halo, Forza and Gears still haven't found their way to PC.

[theatticusera]

Xbox won't go away beacause of the way consoles are marketed. The average parent doesn't go to the local game store and buy a beefy pc for their kid, they buy a console. I guarantee there was more kids unwrapping an xbox one on Christmas day than a gaming pc. The average consumer who doesn't know alot about gaming will usually go for the the most advertised and quite often cheapest option

[jznrpg]

Console exclusives, that there aren't a lot of this gen for Xbox.

[WheatBread]

The cheap price and ease of use. Some ppl can't afford or even want a gaming pc. Plus it has exclusive games like..

Forza 5, 6, Horizon 2
Halo 5, MC collection
Gears of War 4
Sunset Overdrive
Scalebound
Crackdown 3
etc

and this is coming from a pc gamer that doesn't own an xbox one.

[GeekyBully]

Some mother buying her kid a console doesn't care that an exclusive is also available on PC. "Journalists" are overreacting. The reason to own an Xbox (or any console for that matter) will continue to be ease of use/convenience & price. That's it... that's what has driven console sales now, and it's not suddenly going to change because of information the gaming enthusiast is privy to. A lot of you don't understand your weight (or lack thereof) when it comes to the average consumer.

[GoodnessGreatness]

NONE. Xbox None.

[gnothe1]

this has to be some of the worse so called journalism I have ever seen...there's still plenty of reason to own an XBOX....plus you guys are acting as if EVERY SINGLE XBOX TITLE is on the PC...it seems as if your trying to convenience people that theres no need for the system...if you don't like it fine..but don't try an push this self hate for the system on everybody else..i have an enjoy all systems..

[RIPWiiU]

So easy to spot the fakes here. Stop trying to be a pc gamer who plays on conesole because "like playing on couch" idiots its called big picture mode and you dont even need that, just an hdmi cable and you link/plug your controller and play. Gtfo with the whole bs morons.

[Azzanation]

To play Xbox games and PC games in your living room.
Many reasons to own an Xbox, the main reason is if you dont own a gaming Rig. Not everyone is running 16gigs of Ram with a GPU later then 2013

[JamesBondage]

but you could of got a gaming rig, for the same price that the xbox one originally cost..

[Tzuno]

Ha, now X owners feel but-hurt, well MS want everyone to win 10 and who knows what their master plan is for the future, the only thing that i find usable from a x1 is the joystick, yes you can buy one even without buying a console but if you already own a x1 well plug that joystick in to a PC and call it a day. X360 was my last console and after that i invested in a better Pc it's not beastly but i game everything on it, to me Pc is the future because i have the flexibility of upgrading what i want without selling the entire sistem something i cannot tell about a console, exclusives you say? well i can live with that.

[Dixiedevil]

Any gamer that has a PC, now has no reason whatsoever to get or keep an XB1. When I bought mine, I already had a PS4, WiiU and PC. I got it for exclusives. Guess I'll just trade it in towards a PSVR. This will only serve to sell even less systems. Sure as hell ain't gonna sell more.

[Orionsangel]

I try to own everything to have the opportunity to play everything. Why limit your options by owning just one console or not being a PC gamer?

[N0TaB0T]

Oh and look at what (off-topic speculative piece) appears again on these articles, just beneath their citation:

http://www.clipular.com/c/5...

Get a new hobby ffs, the parents you mooch off of on a daily basis do not care what brand you are loyal to.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

Good bye Xbox,, Hello DreamCast2.o

[JamesBondage]

id sell mine, if i didnt use it to watch blurays occasionally, i use it for netflix and such, but that'd be easy to replace. if i could get a decent smart bluray player for next to nothing. id sell the xbone for sure. its useless

[About30Ninjas]

To play Halo and a bunch of 900p games

[Tumaras]

I have a ps4 but a good deal one a XB1 came up over the holidays that I couldn't pass up. So I ended up getting one. But I honestly regret it. I thought it would be cool, but video/movies are smoother on ps4, and any decent game with a small handful of exceptions are on ps4 or PC in higher res. The XB1 menu is clunky, and I totally understand why friends who had ps4, xb1, and a gaming pc said they never turn on their XB1. Not trying to bash it, just being completely honest.

But, competition is good as others said. I will say fps I tend to only play on console to aimbot/wallhackers, so it's worth having a console for that. There are a few good xb1 console exclusives, but the list is really short. I'd have been fine with ps4 and pc in hindsight.

[Petebloodyonion]

Again logic fail to apply when we talk about the hate for Microsoft.

1) Console is mainly for gaming and games created on them are optimized for the console. On the other hand Pc need to be constantly upgraded, keep up to date and games are not often optimized.

2) A xbox1 cost 350$, the suggesting setting for QB on pc need a 1500$ PC.

3) Games sells better on consoles compare to PC, see Batman, Call of duty, Battlefront and Mkx(heck they wont even produce the DLC for that game on PC)

So where again does this moves hurt Xbox1?

[Dark_Crow]

To play games.
Like most gamers do with their consoles.

Duh

[EnsignHiro]

Guess it just comes down to preference at this point. I cant think of many other reasons as ps4 has many similarities to it and pc also has some of the muliti plats they both have.

[EyeAmTJ]

Because it's cheaper than a PC rig

[ThePhantomHaircut]

For me, it depends on how good Recore is.

[Maxor]

I know plenty of people who prefers Xbox One over the PC or PS4. Some simply do not want to switch to a different ecosystem. Others prefers a bigger controller. None of them cares about exclusives because like most gamers they spend all their time playing multiplats like CoD, Fallout 4 and Destiny.

[FN4GM]

Looking through a large portion of the comments here for a group of people who keep claiming its no big deal and they aren't bothered by the decision, they sure seam to be really angry about it. Five pages now of angry damage controlling and spinning this to try and make it sound like its not bad, the rest of us who aren't in denial know it is. One of the biggest if not the biggest console exclusive for the xbone just made owning the console irrelevant, people can try and sugar coat that all they like but nothing you can say will change the facts.

[NickAwesome]

since every game comes to the pc evenutally i see absolutely no reason to have an xbox one (if i have already a ps4 and a pc)

[geotsa]

If ms and nintento fails sony will be alone you really beleieve that this is good for the gamers

[welly300]

I've a family, in no way can justify spending over £1000, just to play on high settings. Ps4 xbox will do just fine.

[fingazblank]

I asked myself the same question, but brought one anyway last june, why? i like xbox and it seemed the right time to buy one. Good games coming, many features of the 360 returning, xbox live and basically i missed sitting on the couch gaming with out the hassle of pc gaming brings.

I have a pc and it serves my gaming needs too, i meet the recommended requirements for quantum break, i7 2600k gtx 970 16gig of ram and future titles should they come to pc. I will play it both on the xbox and pc QB i mean. Hope halo and forza arrive too, mouse and keyboard with halo 5, i enjoy it on xbox but its hard with joypad

[Night99]

I think it really depends, if you are a traditional gamer and you want to own your games in a nice physical collection you still need to have an Xbox One. The Games Microsft relase on PC are only digital available and only on Windows 10 Store and like Quantum Break require high end specs.

So I think with all this limitations on PC(no physical games and not even get a Steam release), Xbox is still the way easier, more accessible way to play this games and the better way for collectors like me who want to own their favourite games physical.

[elarcadia]

I can't even read this article after seeing how horrible the grammar is in just that small paragraph. How can you be a "writer" and literally have no grasp on grammar and syntax? Ayiyi.