Terminate your season pass plans for The Division, Ubisoft

In response to The Division's season pass details, this article outlines an opinion on why Ubisoft should consider scrapping the season pass before it is implemented, and speculating on the harm that it could do to the core game if it is retained.

[CoNn3r_B]

(sigh)just...why?

[T1ttyMunch3r]

i have noticed ubisoft doesnt offer good season pass's. Like for example the only interesting thing in the farcry 4 season pass was the yeti dlc everything else was garbage. In ac syndicates season pass the only good thing is jack the ripper dlc everything else just sucks. So basically ubisoft offers 1 dlc and some smaller missions or in game items for 30. To me that is a ripoff

[starrman1985]

I do get the impression this is slightly different. Three "expansions" and then the extra content on top, as much as I disagree with season passes this one at least seems okay value for money. The gold edition is £59.99, this includes the game and season pass, lets (as everyone else is making this similarity) take Destiny launch, their collectors edition that came with the season pass was £79.99, this only included 2 expansions.

These monthly rewards actually make the season pass even better value, but I understand what the article author is getting at. Time will tell I guess, if they're fleshed out expansions with lots of fruitful content then quite frankly I'll support this kind of DLC. There just needs to be regulations in place, as Phuck said the AC:Syndicate one was AWFUL and literally shouldn't have been allowed to see the light of day for the asking price.

[thekhurg]

There are so many cry baby gamers out there QQing over season passes that they don't have to buy, games they don't have to play, developers they don't have to deal with and publisher they aren't forced to give money to.

@phuck

The Division is nothing like the other games you mentioned. They are stepping into a market genre that is currently dominated by Destiny on consoles, and a plethora of titles on PC. They're not going to give you a single mission as part of their DLC plans.

[DragonKnight]

@thekhurg: "There are so many cry baby gamers out there QQing over season passes that they don't have to buy, games they don't have to play, developers they don't have to deal with and publisher they aren't forced to give money to."

Correct, no one is forced. But do you know what the word "precedent" means?

If not enough people go with this "I can avoid this crap" mentality, then more developers will follow these practices because of the precedent that publishers like Activision and Ubisoft have set. This means the potential for garbage to infest more and more games goes up and value for dollar goes down. Complaining is done with the hopes that people will be smart enough to not allow publishers to get away with this crap and is the very reason why AC Unity's Season Pass was scrapped.

But I'm sure you would have loved for it not to be just to spare you from having to read complaints that, funny enough no one forced you to read.

[t-hall785]

My only gripe is at least make it cheaper for people who blindly buy it. Dont make me pay a season pass price that someone else can get 3 months down the line for the same price. Right now we dont know what it all specifically consists of. Give us risk takers a deal.

[Tzuno]

Why the hell people buy dlc's in the first place? want to stop this? do not encourage this practice easy do not buy is not that hard or are we so brainwashed, we do bad to ourselves and then we complain, i really hope we are made by god because i can't see stupid monkeys.

[ion666]

I could have done fine without the DLC for farcry 4. It was a full game in itself. The division will be no different unless I gotta pay for brooklyn. Then my balls will be on fire about it.

[frostypants]

gamersFTW is copying the gamingbolt model. I.E., insane rambling clickbait nonsense.

[1noobgamer]

A bit like your comment?!

[frostypants]

@pixelpatch, no. My comment was short, to the point, and sensical. Weak burn.

[Yukes]

@frostypants Although I'd hesitate to say we follow a "model" at all, but if we do it would be to write articles that interest us, and that we believe will be of interest to the gaming community. We like to comment on what we perceive to be issues in our industry, and spark debate within the community. We do not copy any other video game site.

Also, there is nothing clickbait about this topic. The title is not misleading; it conveys exactly what the article is about. If it doesn't interest you, then please do not read it. It's your opinion that it's nonsense, just like it's my opinion that Ubisoft should re-think their season pass plans.

As for my sanity, I'm not qualified to comment :)

[MrsNesbitt]

This game looks so good, I hope they don't intentionally hold out on content in the initial game. I don't mind DLCs but only when they are properly implemented.

[extermin8or]

I don't think they have, devs chose not to put in microtransactions like many other console mmo esque games and ubisoft games in particular have been allowing people to skip progression using real money for awhile now. Plus it looks like there will be an awful lot of content in the game day one so even if they did I doubt people would notice. As for special events, I read it as " there will be special events for everyone and then some exclusive to season pass holders"

[rdgneoz3]

According to the PSN description, "Season Pass owners gain the benefit of special monthly perks, including exclusive content drops and events."

Hopefully it's minor crap, else it'll be annoying. If it's anything major, you'll have everyone b!tching. As for the rest, curious how the DLC will be, could be interesting.

From another article: "The first expansion pack that is arriving is called "Underground," and will have players exploring the depths of the Big Apple with a four-player squad, at most. The second expansion pack called "Survival" is considered a "mini-campaign" which will only be available to those who have completed the main storyline of the game. It is 'designed to test the skills of veteran players.'"

A video on IGN was put out recently that showed underground gameplay (which looked like it could be interesting), so hopefully it's just more missions and those aren't being cut for DLC. The second DLC looks more like end game story missions seeing as you have to beat the main story to get to it. Guessing Last Stand will be a wave type gameplay, would be interesting.

Overall, if the game releases with little content, people are gonna feel ripped off from the $40 season pass.

[Silkside]

They did hold out content, one of the areas was in a gameplay trailer and now they've said it's not avaliable.

They're holding out without a doubt, it's right in front of your face.

[rdgneoz3]

@Silk Which area and which video?

[_-EDMIX-_]

@silk- "one of the areas was in a gameplay trailer and now they've said it's not avaliable"

You mean "available"?

Also what if its not finished and it was always going to be post launch content? I mean...you don't legally own the game or IP, they do. So pretty sure they can release content as they see fit in a intellectual property they actually own.

Unless I'm missing something here and you have some right to the IP or ?

[Silkside]

Brooklyn was in early trailers, now it's locked away for future dlc. Go watch all the early trailers.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I mean...you could, but it is their game. Even if they did, you'd never know and I don't really think knowing they did really means much consider again......it is their game.

With a game like this that borders MMO, I can see why they would have post launch content. I question how good its going to be, but I guess I would have to play the final game to see how good it "could" be.

In regards to them "hold out" its legally not yours in the first place to even state something is held out in an IP you don't own. I'm not fully sure why knowing this should impact your game.

Does knowing Pizza Hut have more Pizzas in the back hurt you when your order from them? It just seems like such a non-issue that someone could sorta have with any thing they don't legally own.

[LightofDarkness]

That's an incorrect analogy. It's more like having ordered a cheese pizza for years and expecting the same value for money every time, suddenly the same money only gets you a cheese pizza with no sauce and you have to pay double for the sauce and a bunch of toppings you don't care about. Sure, you have what looks like a pizza, but it's not a complete pizza and the value proposition is heavily skewed towards an imaginary customer base that they wish they had. Like they're trying to condition you to value things the way they want you to, instead of catering to what matters to you and has practically always mattered to pizza lovers everywhere.

[SUCKxITxEZ]

Only difference is you don't pre-order a pizza 6 months before its cooked and when you order a pizza you get what you expect. You pre-order a game like the division after seeing a commercial 6 months before release, then it shows up at your door and it's got like half the locations and guns that you were expecting because you didn't realize some of what you saw is gonna cost extra.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Sorry Light but yours makes no sense. When did the market the title to have those areas for a fact at launch?

What your talking about is called false advertising, it isn't a subjective thing, its very much objective and against the law.

When did your "Pizza" place ever confirm that was what a cheese pizza was? They can still do that, but they must disclose what it actually is.

Thunder is 100% correct, if you never had the pizza before, how on earth can you say what is suppose or not suppose to come with it?

The issue many people have with DLC or um "holding out" is they don't even have clear understanding of what false advertising is, what the law states, they merely assume a game "should" have something that it was never even 100% confirmed to have in the first place.

" but it's not a complete pizza"

Based on what exactly? Are they telling you its a "complete pizza" then it lacks what the descriptions states?

You can have a pizza called a "complete pizza" and the description mentions its missing a bunch of "toppings"as that is still perfectly legal.

Your basically making up what you define as a "complete game" based on what is missing or what you think is missing vs what the actual company has confirmed to be in the final game.

So how do you know what a final game is, of a game you never played, of an IP you don't own, of a company you don't own?

The final game is actually what ever the team, publisher etc states it is.

I mean...in the eyes of the law anyway.

@Suck- "then it shows up at your door and it's got like half the locations and guns that you were expecting because you didn't realize some of what you saw is gonna cost extra"

What is "half"? When was it listed all the locations at launch only to have half the locations when the product was received?

Do you not get how stupid your comment sounds when its merely saying what YOU 'expect" vs what was factually stated?

Example, I bought GTAV, expecting the entire world...

When was that stated? So its their fault because I "expected" a full world vs the exact city and location stated? DO you not see just how dumb such a concept is when really looked at closely? Your basically upset at something you "expected" or imagined vs what they are telling you day 1.

Neither of Light nor SUCK's comments actually really in any legal sense explain any wrong doing, merely subjective expectations of what they personally see as "complete" or what they "expect" based on nothing actually factually stated.

[Officialxandr]

This. I say it all the time, DLC/season passes are supposed to ADD content, not remove content from the game to make it DLC.

[ion666]

You mean free right?

[crazychris4124]

You know more boroughs of NYC will be locked behind the season pass. Brooklyn is just about a guarantee since we have seen gameplay of it already.

[just_looken]

according to the creative director just Manhattan this year

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Goo interview alot slides then with the season pass yeah...

[-Foxtrot]

Just when you think Ubisoft is turning it around...then BAM

Lost interest in Assassins Creed, bored of the side scrolling Rayman games, Prince of Persia hasn't been continued, Watch Dogs was alright but a letdown, no Beyond good and evil sequel, Far Cry Primal looks nothing like a proper FC game and a quick cash in, Rainbow Six was crap and lacks content etc

I mean Ghost Recon Wildlands looks good but will people get sucked into hype and what they HOPE it's going to be or actually be a realist and go "Looks alright but knowing Ubisoft I kind of know what to expect".

I honestly think they need to sort themselfs out to be honest. They are are their way of being like EA

[Yukes]

Personally think you're right - they're starting to garner an unpleasant reputation. Only point I disagree on is Rayman. Ubisoft Montreal can do little wrong in my book and Origins and Legends were platforming masterpieces.

[-Foxtrot]

Yeah they were good games but even with a sequel, only the second game in the "Rayman Origin" franchise it was really "samey" with only the graphics recieving a new lick of pain made it stand out.

3D Rayman games were fantastic and it was a great evolution for the franchise. Rayman Origins and Legends were nice little in between games but we really need to get Rayman 4 now and go back to having a really great, well crafted 3D platformer

We are lacking in platformer games and Rayman is a perfect candidate to get them back into the mainstream. I know Origins and Legends were good but why would anyone want it to stick to something Nintendo is doing already with the New Super Mario Bros games. Not to mention other companies doing 2D/2.5D side scrolling games. May aswell let the franchise go back to a genre and revive it.

[Lilrizky]

I think the rayman games are spectacular. legends was a bit samey, but it was A LOT better imo.

there is so much friken content in that game and it's good.

but yeah check rayman legends score averages. it's basically one of the highest rated games across 5 platforms.

[T1ttyMunch3r]

Have you played Assassins creed Syndicate? Its a really good game. Comparing unity to syndicate is like comparing cod ghost to cod blops3. Its such an improvement

[-Foxtrot]

I saw you could turn invisible with Evie and thought "DONE...they've lost the plot"

Instead of actually adding proper, realistic stealth mechanics. Yet the game is Assassins Creed.

They only added a crouch button last year

There's no story aswell...just randomly jumping from time periods for the wow factor. Without Desmond the story has collapsed

[kraenk12]

@Foxtrot

yeah, because AC games were all about realism all the time ROFL

And Siege is bad?! GTFO

[SlightlyRetarted]

What i can't wrap my head around about Assassin's Creed is how such a big franchise can't get combat OR stealth gameplay to work out in anyway. It was 8th AC that introduced an option to crouch. 8th! Yet still it had cover mechanic that did not work at all. In a project of that size you can't have one area so under developed. It's that embarrassing at this point. It's like a Bond movie had death scenes like this:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Ark_]

Well I just bought and installed Heroes of Might & Magic 7 on Uplay. First thing I read in the news section is, that they will release 2 additional campaigns with a lot of content for free (The lost tales of Axeoth) to celebrate 20th anniversary of the franchise. Just to share a positive experience with them as a publisher.

Rayman Legends on WiiU plays also great btw. And Rainbow Six just has the wrong name, but is actually one of the more innovative shooters that released lately.

Overall I am not too happy with Ubisoft either, but it's not yet EA level imo. But you are right: they should sort them selfs out - quickly.

[USMC_POLICE]

I would have agreed with you on R6 siege until I bought it on sale, i cannot put it down! No match is the same and the different operatives provide a lot of diversity, best multiplayer shooter since socom 2 for me. However the season pass for siege is an absolute joke and the game needs a campaign.

[Swiggins]

The fact that you've called R6 bad make me think you've never played it. To a lot of people It's the best multiplayer shooter currently on the market and one of the most game-changing to come out in years.

It's the only thing worthwhile game that Ubisoft HAS put out in the past few years.

[Pongwater]

Fox thinks most games are bad, if his comments are any indication. Makes me wonder why he doesn't get a different hobby. He starts hating and downplaying months before games are released.

OT - Season passes and DLC are here to stay. Wake up. There are still many games that don't have these things and no one forces you to buy the ones that do.

[-Foxtrot]

@Pongwater

Only joined 34 days ago and acts like he knows me...right.

How's the new account?

[MoveTheGlow]

Agreed. The article is basically asking Ubisoft to not be Ubisoft, not just alter stuff for The Division. This isn't so much "Terminate your The Division season pass plans" as it is "Get your crap together and make better games, Ubisoft."

[ion666]

Im afraid for Ghost recon wildlands. but I guess its better than that Hitman crap. What the F is that all about.

[SnotyTheRocket]

Rainbow Six Siege is fun as shit. Bet you didn't even play the damn thing. CS:GO is great, and is only multiplayer. You only hate Rainbox Six because it's Ubisoft.

[ScorpiusX]

Tool late got mine as part of package

[_LarZen_]

I think we just need to get over with it already. There are way to many...and by that I mean waaaay to many people that buy season passes and DLC.

There is nothing that is going to turn this trend and no amount of articles like this is going to change it. There are just to many that have supported this way for year and years.

I am going to buy the season pass for The Division as I just loved the beta. So I want it all. And this bonus that all season pass owners get each month actually got me excited. I hope it will "reward" me as season pass owner and supporter of the game.

I understand the complaints and concerns. It's just that you are at least 10 years to late. The train has left the station and it's not coming back....ever.

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

You're right, let's just dive in and feed the Season Pass monster even more. Let's speed up something that can only become worse as time progress instead of exhibiting some shred of patience.

[_LarZen_]

Your to late. Were all to late to slow down or stop this. That's just a fact we all have to accept .
You always have a choice to not buy a season pass or DLC. But you will be missing out.

That's just how it is. And no articles or comments will change this. Not now when most costumers have embraced DLC and season passes for about a decade.

We should all just move on. Support good games and good DLC and season passes. And give the thumbs down to the ones that are bad.

Or just skip DLC and season passes. But know this...millions of people will continue to purchase. Making it a hugely profitable business model and one that will most likely never go away.

[Yukes]

@_LarZen_ It's not too late. If we have that attitude then the greedy publishers have already won. Articles and comments themselves won't change what is worryingly becoming the norm, granted. The intention is to bring attention to these practices so that people can make an informed decision as to whether they vote with their wallet. That, ultimately, is what will work.

[_LarZen_]

@Yukes

Problem is that so many are buying so much in the form of microtransactions,DLC and season passes that it's now a multi billion dollar industry.

Developers are selling so much of it and so many are buying it that there is no turning now. I at least don't belive that.

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

I would have believed it if more major gaming news sites did their jobs in calling out the ridiculous prices of Season Passes (similar to how Youtubers call out the Fine Bros for their B.S) but let's not act everyone have "done all they have could" to change things.

In the end it's either two choices:

A. Support Season Passes which will only grow in price for the same amount of content as time goes on.

B. Buy the Complete (what it should have been) Edition and pay the same price all the time.

The only thing I'll miss out is paying a three digit price for the same game.

[_LarZen_]

It's great that you are optimistic. But microtransactions,DLC and season passes is a multi billion dollar industry. It's not going to change.

[Pongwater]

"I understand the complaints and concerns. It's just that you are at least 10 years to late. The train has left the station and it's not coming back....ever."

Exactly.

[ion666]

Never give up,...Never surrender
(Tim Allen/Galaxy Quest)

[teo72]

I think people are blowing this way out of proportions. The idea of having to pay for big expantions in form of a season pass isn't exactly new. It takes a long time and a lot of money to make these expations, so it it natural the devs wants money for them. I for one will definitly be getting the season pass. I had tons of fun with the Beta

[averagejoe26]

Yea, except we've already seen gameplay of these expansion packs...that's the issue.

This is content that has been made during the game's development and cut out for extra profit.

I'm all for season passes and expansions IF they spend all of their time making the core game THEN start making extra content post release.

But releasing content that has been made during the core development stages and charging extra for it is absurd.

But as another comment said above, we're already $#!='d. Season Pass sales are too high and they'll never go away. Time to get to used to paying $90 - $140 for full games.

[Pongwater]

I've never bought a game, skipped the DLC, and felt like I didn't get the full experience. DLC has been around for a long time. Season passes are relatively new by comparison, but just like DLC (and even full games) some are worth the money and some aren't. It's subjective.

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

Umm yeah........Ill be waiting for the GOTY Edition. I was excited for the game (and still kinda is) but that's not enough to change how I feel about Season Passes. If I got this Day One, the thought of how big this game could have been will always be in the back of my mind truncating my experience.

[INMATEofARKHAM]

Absolutely nothing wrong with doing it that way... Its, honestly, how I handle most games. :)

This time... I'm like 99% sure I'm m going to be a sucker and get the season pass (as part of the gold edition) and, again, nothing wrong with that. I rarely do it and deserve the treat! :)

[Mr-Dude]

Or the gold edition after a few months on a big fat sale... That's what I am gonna do

[Aenea]

Sure! Ubisoft is gonna scrap the Season Pass!

Now they need to find ways to get the lost revenue in another way! Upping the base game price? Hmmmm, I know, I know! A monthly fee! Yeah, lots of other MMO like games do that too! In fact, it might make them even more money than just the SP! *shakes head*

People need to realise that Season Pass sales are calculated into their finances, if they disappear they either can't afford to develop the same game with the same base content (resulting in less games published or smaller games content-wise) or they need to find another way to get additional income.

But hey, am sure I will get a ton of disagrees with this unpopular, but realistic view...

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

The thing is that MMO's have a wealth of content of the bat to justify the price while their expansions are ACTUAL EXPANSIONS instead 2-3 hour experiences.

The only pieces of DLC I am proud to say I have purchased this generation were Dark Souls and Bloodborne because not once I felt that something was cut out for future use.

Yeah, the Season Pass problem hasn't changed but I'll be damned if Ill have a hand in making it worse.

If they make a great game, you'd think initial sales would cover the costs.

[coryNcali]

This isnt a ubisoft issue, they didnt start the dlc trend. Aenea is right, all devs of aaa games factor dlc into their profit projections. It is what it is. Ive certainly been burned a few times on hoping a game would be good and preordering season passes and realizing after beginning to play that it isnt a game i enjoy, im sure many of us have been there. Thankfully these days there is so much coverage on every game that if you do enough research you should have a good idea if any particular game is what you're into or not. Ive followed this game since e3 2013 and i played the beta, for me i had very high expectations and i was really hoping that it wasnt another watchdogs...and thankfully i absolutely loved the beta, graphics, gameplay, rpg, ease of matchmaking, etc. More than that however, the fun factor for me and most of those i played with was phenomenal. The dark zone is a new take on pvp and i not only loved it for what it is, but its simply great to have a fresh take and not just the same ol pvp modes. The little details everywhere from weather to realistic graffiti to weapon mechanics visualized realistically. Add to that that there absolutely will be multi group raids, i know its not confirmed, but there are multiple ubisoft employees who have slipped up in interviews about it. Im hoping the missions and side missions will have an engaging story and will be intricate, but for me tjere is easily enpugh there to justify $100

[slappy508]

Looks alright to me, compared to other season passes if you ask me.

[kraenk12]

I know no one wants to hear this fact but adjusted to inflation games are cheaper than ever these days. Stop whining. These games offer hundreds of hours of content and require constant maintenance yet everybody whines that the developer wants to make a profit.

Don't get me wrong, I hate microtransactions and unnecessary DLCs like the next guy but I don't think it's justified in that case...especially since no one has played the final game.

[PRock10]

100% agree. I bought Final Fantasy 7 back in 1997 for $70. That is equivalent to roughly $120 today with inflation. The fact we've paid the same amount for 20 years now is pretty staggering, considering inflation, cost of living, cost of production, etc. have only gone up exponentially in that same time. At least companies are giving consumers the choice of how much they want to spend, they could just charge $120 up front to cover all their costs and meet their profit margin, but I like having the option to spend or not spend that much. Companies must figure out other revenue streams streams to continue to make these games and make them as often as they do. Sure, you have a game like Witcher 3 that set a bar for in-game content at its initial price point but games like that come out once ever 5 or so years, and studios of their size with their employee salaries, benefits, etc. don't necessarily have to make the same profit on a game as someone the size of EA or Ubisoft. If it came to companies having to make 400+ hour games for $60 and nothing more, you'd see the AAA space dry up real quick and they all turn to mobile games which has lower risk and much higher reward. I know most people today feel they're entitled to everything but many truly don't understand how the world they live in actually works. Gaming today is in fact as cheap as it's ever been and its quantifiable, regardless of how much people want to believe it isn't,

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

"100% agree. I bought Final Fantasy 7 back in 1997 for $70. That is equivalent to roughly $120 today with inflation."

And now we will to pay 180 dollars (60 dollars per disc) for the complete Final Fantasy 7 remake. Ain't the future grand!

[wellard]

Yeah because companies like ubisoft are constantly scraping the poverty line. Their billions in profit are a clear indication that we gamers aren't giving them enough /s

[PRock10]

Cry me a river. You're not forced to buy the FF7 remake. The rebuttal to my statement is moot as you can buy the same version of FF7 I did in 1997 for $15 on PSN so yeah, the present and future is grand.

@Wellsrd, As for scraping by with their billions in profit, you clearly have no grasp on how business works. Their job is to maximize profits and their profit margin. Thats what they're in business for. The minute making AAA games no longer falls in line with that aim, they'll switch to something else. They don't make games for you out of some altruistic desire to see you happy in life with video games. They'll only make AAA games while it makes sense for them financially to do so as ultimately it's their stockholders that they're beholden to. Why do you think so many studios are closing and switching to mobile and indie gaming? Because it makes all the financial sense in the world and its way less of a pain to deal with the entitled and unrealistic expectations of many gamers. There is a big reason AAA development has been consolidated into only the hands of a few publishers over the past several years because the previous business models stopped being sustainable. Now you've got season passes, DLC, F2P, etc. You still have consumer power to buy whatever you desire and withhold your money from whomever you deem not fit to have it. It's really that simple.

[wellard]

I'm not even going to bother reading past the first few lines of that drivel. If you honestly think that being ripped off with broken, short and uninspired games that are cut up into little chunks and sold on to us for double it's actual worth then your lost to the world.

The fact that you attack other consumers who are fighting these disgusting practices means one of 2 things, you're either brainwashed or a minor living with your parents and in your parents pockets.

[PRock10]

You probably thought it was drivel bc it's probably all over your head. It would be hard for me to have bought FF7 in 1997 if I'm a kid living at home with my parents. Master of the details aren't you? Wellard I'm a grown man with his own family and a fantastic job.. I don't think I'm getting ripped off by uninspired games cut up into chunks. That's your opinion. I think there are more great games to play now then ever before that I don't even have time to even play them all. The vast majority of games actually come out with more content than ever before. You're probably the young child here due to if you've grown up throughout the history of the industry, you'd know that. What I'm attacking is the entitled, the world owes me everything mentality that plagues everything today. If you want to fight it, vote with your wallet. I believe in a free market, I'm not brainwashed. You're parents let you down thinking you deserve everything for nothing. I don't think these practices are disgusting, you just want something that isn't realistic. If you think paying $60 for a game is sustainable forever, you're clueless. EVERYTHING else in this world has been rising in terms of wages, inflation, etc. yet video games prices have been stagnant for two decades. Games should be rising along with all that, instead they cut it up to give you the purchasing power to decide how much or little you want to spend rather than charging over $100 a game. It's not a hard concept.

[wellard]

Yeah you lost me after the first couple of lines again, sorry thats 2 of your lectures i neglected to read. I just have no interest in listening to a teenager attempt to "win" an argument by defending the fact that corporations rape society to death. You fail to make a single coherent point. Cheers, and enjoy paying more tax in the future because these billion dollar corporations with the poverty stricken shareholders dont have to.

[kraenk12]

sry double post

[Perjoss]

season passes, lol

[LordsOfSkulls]

Bought the $99.99 edition... it 20% off at best buy with gamer unlocked.so $79.99 ? Why would i cancle it on game like this just cause of it being $20 more plus (i paid more for collector editions and got less) what was named in article gaved it even more value than most season passes. Season passes are a normal now the golden ps2 age is gone

[Errorist76]

Weren't PS2 games 60 dollars already?!

[UgoGalimbertti]

Every Season Pass should be like The Witcher's. Massive content and not right after release.
Day 1 DLC makes no sense..

[Errorist76]

That dream is probably not a possibility in a world where not all developers have the luxury to pay polish wages.

[Duke19]

I wonder how many people buy season passes for a game they are hyped for - beat the game, and then forget that the DLC they paid for won't even arrive until months/years later

[RosweeSon]

Most shouldn't even go up until half of the content is even available normally it's here are some costumes and utter guff plus a mission that'll last you 20 minutes then catch you in 3 months while we bish bash bosh up some new tat.

[Psychotica]

I am not sure why people have such a problem with DLC. I would rather be able to play the game at a lower price and less content and find out I didn't like the game, than pay a higher price with more content and find out I didn't like it.

[RosweeSon]

Ubisoft Season Pass... There's a clue in there somewhere... Pass!!!! At all costs pass the content is drip fed over 6 months whilst the people who paid full price day one sit around and wait for it, not literally I hope but then by the time the good stuffs coming out they reduce the season pass' up to 60% or so and laugh in all the day 1 customers faces... Might as well do, after assassins creed 3 season pass I won't buy another of theirs on day one if ever again. I'll wait until the content it out been reviewed and judged not to me 20 minutes long no replay value and about as shallow as a puddle, just to have some form of something they can class as season pass content. I'm all for good DLC (GTA4-best part about the game haha and also burnout paradise-both great value for money and masses of replay value) ubisofts seasons passes are normally just after thoughts with off cuts or out takes from the game and maybe one major good part of DLC surrounded by costumes and skins for weapons and generally useless online tat... No thank you. Wait for the sales, buy the game 6 months later half price get the season pass in a sale for half price end up with the full experience for the price the package should cost.

[medman]

I was excited for The Division when it was initially revealed. I am no longer excited for the game.

[UgoGalimbertti]

lol I am the opposite!

[hiawa23]

Wait, but I paid $99 for the game and pass, preorder...

[AstroCyborg]

why is only the division getting hate for this ea started this with bf43 & destiny did it as well but only the division gets heat

[WDBII]

idk.. this game will be good and they need to calm down.

[WDBII]

I would read this article if I didn't like this game. I do like this game and I will purchase this season pass. I haven't bought a season pass since... idk maybe black ops 1. If they even had one.

[Siberian]

So if I read the article correctly, the author is saying the season pass will have more that what other season passes have. Thus you should not get the season pass?

[Silver_ShadoWolf]

This article is filled with ridicule... The season pass is just money for the developers to continue putting out content. They need to make money some how. Why do people feel as if they deserve free content. Minimum wage is 7.50. This game cost 60. Divide those and if you get 7 to 10 hours of entertainment for this game, then you got your money's worth. Because in reality, the man hours put in is way above 10 hours. 1000's of hours per person is put into this game. And you expect free content...

[ShadowKing-]

whats really funny, is all the time people write these articles, get rid of season passes. what happens? nothing. get used to it,its the nature of gaming now. either buy the game or don't its really that simple.

sucks but yeah

[iKenny]

I just cancelled my preorder as an early gift. I refuse to be taken like a sucker like I was with (BUNGIE) Destiny. Ubisoft only specifies DLC but they keep tight lipped as to what that entails. If your gonna act like Bungie, I'd say fck you too and you won't get my money. Bungie forced me to pay attention, never again!

[hiawa23]

I pre-ordered the game and season pass, as I plan on playing the game many hours. As far as DLC setting precedent, I could care less about that, we are talking about games here, which I enjoy but in the grand scheme, come on, just games. Gamers can buy or not buy whatever they want and spend their money on whatever or not they want, so I stay away from telling other adults what they should or should not buy on the internet like many do as if many care what you think. If the game is good or great I have no issue paying the devs alittle more as these games cost money, additional content cost money, DLC costs money and I think devs should be rewarded, if you don't don't buy. It is really that simple to me when talking about games.

[Artemidorus]

Ubisoft stopping a Season Pass? You got more chance of leaving the solar system than this happening.