MCV: Nintendo of America sales and marketing boss Cammie Dunaway has admitted that the firm was 'disappointed' with its performance at E3.
After all that damage she actually agreed... wauw..
i just dont understand nintendo at to moment wii is selling yes, but you cant rest on your laurels,nintendo 'we have hardcore games like animal crossing' seem to have taken the arrogant crown from sony and we all saw what nearly happened to sony this gen with the arrogant nonesense they began with the ps3,sony hd to wise up fast lets hope nintendo do because i love the nintendo of old most of us grew up on nintendo like they were surrogate parents
No need for "no sh/t". It's not easy for a company that's selling so great to admit a thing like this, but she just basically did. I was surprised because this does not always happen. I'm not surprised that they call Animal crossing "hardcore". This game sold on the GCN too, without all the "casual" people. Also a game that you play for hours must be "hardcore". Now i dont care for this game, i was never interested.
Hmmm, maybe now they'll put their effort into a different event. Anyone for Spaceworld? =P
what nintendo of old? foxx nintendo has been always arrogant and that's why they loosed FFVII and a bunch of third party support on the N64 days. the GameCube and Wii it's from the new nintendo but in my opinion the Wii it's sucking more than the GC because i actually liked the GC but not the Wii. I even own a GC. the old president of nintendo, the one before Iwata was like one of the most arrogant persons ever. when nintendo loosed FF to the PS1 he said that rpg's are for loners and losers... can you believe that? but nintendo fanboys seems to forget every bad thing that nintendo has done and just focus hate on sony for kicking them out from the first place back in the day. i understand because i use to be a nintendo fanboy before the Wii came. now disagree all you want...
sidar: Animal Crossing is not "hardcore". It's not difficult. There's no learning curve. There's no way to lose. How exactly is it hardcore? It's like saying playing Solitaire, and cheating so you can always win, no matter what, is hard.
Smacktard, Like the Definition of "hardcore" was always that. Not even sure why i used the word in the first place since its full of fail. Even you know the word " hardcore " is bend sh/tloads of time when it comes to what it exactly means. If i were to define "hardcore" i would say someone who loves playing games long times. If you spent loads of time behind animal crossing then in some way you are "hardcore". Some games people call "hardcore" are easy. how is that hardcore according to you? And not all " core " games need a learning curve because they are obvious. @Nieto, "nintendo has been always arrogant and that's why they loosed FFVII " Not because they were arrogant, because Sony had a much cheaper and better solution for data storage. I see no reason to be complaining about their mistakes, the reason i have a Wii is simply because i want to continue playing games they make because I enjoy them. Screw what they did or who they are i want my freaking games. As far as "bad" things go, they are a company not your best friend. All 3 companies screwed their audience over. But people come back for GAMES. Edit: Smacktard, About the "learning curve", if its for the casual people, even this game will need some learning curve now does is not? I repeat i do not care for this game, but understanding who bought this on the GCN. I can understand why Nintendo says it's "hardcore"
Jaime...no games are as hard as they used to be anymore...If you want hard games play NES and SNES or Genesis games.
Mario Party was on the Gamecube too, therefore it's hardcore too! Great logic! Animal Crossing was one of the few games my dad ever played. Animal Crossing and Wii Sports, and Wii Fit are the only games I can recall him playing recently. About the learning curve in Animal Crossing: There is no learning curve. That's why casuals will eat it up. It doesn't get harder, it doesn't get more difficult. There's no learning curve. If anything it's a learning line. Animal Crossing is just a good example of a good casual title. Like Boom Blox! What are some "hardcore" games that are easy to learn, hard to master? Or just plain hard to master?
Mario party is straightforward meant for social gatherings. While Animal crossing is more aimed at one player mode and can be extended by online mode(multi-player?). What games? Seriously look at the library of today. Just like brotherNick said games are getting easier with each generation. Most games don't get "harder" either. Seriously the word "hardcore" is a miserable pile of Sh/t. I seriously don't know why i used it. btw i was not only talking about Animal crossing i was more pointing out that "casual" gamers need some stuff to learn before they can play. seriously XD. Edit: To ST below, fair enough. Those games you mentioned, i could play them for hours. But another would just pick it up and play for a couple of minutes.
It wasn't disappointing, it was effin boring. It was like listening to one of my teachers drone about some boring subject.
I think we should just agree to disagree, because nobody can seem to agree what's casual and what's hardcore. I still think that games with no real difficulty, or "party games", are casual (TP, SMG, Mario Kart, etc). But I guess some people don't see a difference. Whatever.
Thats a little late to finally react, i am not sure if the sherlock comment was directed at you, if it wasn't it was entirely reasonable and appriopriate. @brothernick About games being easier than nes/snes games, if it came playing games that way or the modern way, i'll take the modern way. A bad design choice should not be the reason a game is hard. And since games now a days are so easy, here is a thought stop playing games on the default difficultly. After you beat it play it again on a higher/highest difficult setting, you would be surprised some games are challenging.
lol.... You took the exact words I was going to use...
I hate to say it, but after seeing Nintendo's conference this year, I am almost embarrassed to say I own a Wii..
Kinda sucks for multiplatform based games.
I hope Miyamoto gets his company back to their golden days status again
well, nintendo doesn't own miyamoto, miyamoto owns nintendo, the wii was his idea, wii sports, wii music, wii fit all his ideas, nintendogs his idea, lets face it people as miyamoto gets older his hobbies will keep getting lamer and lamer, miyamoto was an amazing producer but now, there is no hope, unless miyamote starts new hobbies like killing people, or traversing the universe than I don't think it will get any better.
Miyamoto should go to Afghanistan!
Hahahaha Bubbles for both of you
For me the following is as memorable as "giant enemy crabs": PUPPIES ARE CUTE!!!
Nintendoo are so far out the loop. It is literally like they went to Walmart and started playing with those plug and play games for your tv and then went hog wild and made some of their own, that is what the wii is to me. It's like an amalgamation of every piece of $#*T toy at Radioshack rolled into one crap ass console. Nintendo, your damage control is useless. Go away. If Nintendo wants me back as a customer, they better make a machine that only does 2-d gaming cause Nintendo hasn't been Nintendo since the Snes days.
Sad part is Nintendo doesn't care nor do they need you as a consumer. For your 1 Wii you're not buying 10 other people are. I really don't see this trend faltering anytime soon.
Your rude comments ressulted in me taking away a bubble. Keep it up and you'll be out on the street. You don't mess with silogon, D*ck twist. Edit to Sidar I don't care if you take my bubbles, take them all. I really don't need them but 1. As for me taking his bubbles, it was a joke. I really didn't do it and I also didn't disagree with him, cause I don't use the options of either. That isn't my disagree up there. but feel free to do as you please. I'm affected very little by it and if you couldn't see the sarcasm in my post, sorry.
Silogon, you obviously missed his point. Lol you and insulting others? Since you are Rude on a much grater scale i whished i could take all your bubbles. Since i cant let me take just ONE.
DracoWolf wasn't being rude, he was being frank and direct. The fact that you take so much offense to Nintendo caring less about you and more about your granny shouldn't really be. Just buy a DS if you want some good Nintendo games
There wasn't enough Ravi.
Silogon..His comment wasnt even that offensive at all.Atleast not compared to mine.. Your a two faced f*ckin peice of sh!t.You trash talk Sony,you trash talk PS3.Then you lose bubbles.Then you act like the ass kissing B!tch you are in hopes of getting a bubble back.Then rinse & repeat. Thats the story or silogon.The most pathetic troll on N4G.You rival even POG with your bullsh!t.
The man is the creative force behind Wii Music. That said Nintendo can most certainly rest on its laurels, just look at sales, with no new games coming out soon or in the near future the console sells like crack and considering that unlike MS and SONY they actually make profit when they sell a console, they are sitting pretty.
For who, the gamers, or Nintendo?
the cute puppies
There was very obviously an expectation on Nintendo's part that their conference would all go over very well, which is why it's taken a while for them to come to terms with the response they got. They simply (incorrectly) assumed the coverage they would be getting would be more mainstream and consequently more favourable to the kind of pap they were peddling. There was certainly no expectation that they would have to deal with primarily the gaming press and certainly no idea that any mainstream outlet would have its views coloured by the reaction of the gaming press. This acknowledgement definitely feels very forced, a begrudged attempt to pacify the people who got upset. A bit late, though.
They will realize that the Nintendo market is not just about Cute Pink Nintendo DS lites and Carrie Underwood playing nintendogs.
"nieto - 19 hours ago PM Track Ignore1.4 - what nintendo of old? foxx nintendo has been always arrogant and that's why they loosed FFVII and a bunch of third party support on the N64 days. the GameCube and Wii it's from the new nintendo but in my opinion the Wii it's sucking more than the GC because i actually liked the GC but not the Wii. I even own a GC. the old president of nintendo, the one before Iwata was like one of the most arrogant persons ever. when nintendo loosed FF to the PS1 he said that rpg's are for loners and losers... can you believe that? but nintendo fanboys seems to forget every bad thing that nintendo has done and just focus hate on sony for kicking them out from the first place back in the day." Well actually the previous president...Hiroshi Yamauchi....didnt like any video games, ..at all. Im sure he loved the money he got from them tho. So to your question.."can u believe that"..yeh i can because he actually to this day has never played a video game.
"Smacktard - 18 hours ago What are some "hardcore" games that are easy to learn, hard to master? Or just plain hard to master?" Super ghouls and ghosts, f zero, f zero gx, contra, metroid, super star wars, mega man....? Just to name a FEW, plenty more where that came from. The games of today are EASY compared to the atari-snes eras.
That's what I want to know. Casual gamers, younger children, and grandparents weren't waiting to hear what Nintendo would announce at E3. It was the core gamers. It is increasingly more sad to me, how much Nintendo is out of touch with what I want/value as a gamer. I hope that they learn from this.
and I have no idea how she got hired. Just watch any interview with her. She smiles freakishly the entire time, gives bullshit answers with the same smile regardless of the tone of the interviewer or the question, and continues to act like she actually knows what the fack is going on. The first game she ever goddamn played was professor layton on DS. Wow.
In the corporate world, it's all about what degrees you have, and who you know. Not that it's all Cammie's fault, but to me, she is truly representative of the disconnect that Nintendo has with my needs/wants as a gamer right now. Hopefully she'll catch on quick.
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