The likelihood of Sony releasing a slimmer iteration is pretty inadmissible at this point
Because Its slim already without a power brick?
On topic: Sony doesn't have to simply because it's what some would call "Crushing it" and with that being said if/when sales start to slow. Other than that I don't see why aside from cutting production cost in the next year or so. Besides I live the brilliant and classy design under my projector. Besides parallelepiped shape, Multi choke LED stream and touch "buttons" are very appreciated in my eyes. Often Slims drop my personal fav physical features of initial designs.
Having the power brick inside really does wonders for the PS4's noise and heat output. It's almost a real jet engine.
I love my PS4, but my gosh, I miss my PS3s blissful near silence.
My C chassis is almost silent, sometimes it cranks the fan up a bit for a few seconds then goes silent again. My launch PS4 was loud though.
Am I the only one with silent consoles? My PS4 and Xbox One are ninjas.
C-chassis is about half as loud as the launch PS4s. Kinda wish I had waited on getting my PS4. My XBone and Wii U are silent, PS4 is louder than both combined by at least 3 times. It gets even louder if a disc is in the drive. I've replace the thermal paste on it even. One of the benefits of early adoption.
Mine is 2 years old and I never hear a peep out of it.
A man's launch PS4 is rather silent. At least not loud enough to be heard over the game as a man has never noticed it
I have a 60 gig fat boy PS3 and it sounds like a turbo twin jet engine. Maybe it's just my model but my PS4 is super quiet.
Not true for the latest iteration. Mine is almost silent!
@Dark It often seems that way. I can hear mine when it turn it on, and in very quiet parts of games...like when paused or just standing around where nothing is happening. But even then, it's barely audible. I know I"m old, but I feel I'm losing my hearing because some people seem to think that the PS4 is as loud as a jet engine...so taking out the exaggeration, it seems that they are just making crap up. It's not dead silent, but it certainly isn't that loud. The fan on my stereo receiver makes more noise. Heck, the ceiling fan in my bedroom can make more noise when on high.
I have the latest model PS4 (CUH1202A) and I cannot hear it even though it is about one meter from where I am currently sitting. Currently with my PC and monitor I am using about 60W. When I switch on my PS4 (now) I get 115W, which means that my PS4 in standby consumes about 55W and I can't hear the fan unless I actually put my ear to the device. Now lets fire up "The Witcher 3": Yes I can definitely hear the Bluray drive as it authenticates the media for about 10 seconds and now I cannot hear the fan even though I have turned off the volume on my sound system. Oh wow I am actually consuming about 130W so deducting 60W for my PC and Monitor the PS4 when playing TW3 is consuming about 70W and I can't hear the fan unless I put my ear to the device. BTW. I have written on my setup before but for those who don't know I have a Skylake 4 Core i7-6700 processor, GW-Z170M-D3H motherboard, 16GB DDR4, 3TB HDD, 120GB SSD, 500W Case and a 24" IPS LG monitor which is rated at 25W. Because I am not a PC gamer I use the inbuilt graphics of my motherboard which can easily output to 1080p (can actually go to 2160p @ 30fps) so I actually use very little power when the machine is idle or I am doing more simple things like surfing the web. Even playing a YouTube video only raises my PC's power consumption by about 10W and playing a video via VLC is about the same. I also have a digital watt-meter connected to my power distribution board so I can give fairly accurate power readings. My sound system (rated at 200W) is connected to a different power outlet since all bets are off if I included that in the measurements.
There is no reason sony wont release a slim version as soon as possible, because slim version not only looks great, requires less space, produce less heat, most importantly it cost less, this means more competitive price hence more profits.
I doubt there are much savings to be had until there is a die shrink of the processor. Designing a new console model and changing over production is not cheap, so you only do that when it becomes worth the cost and effort.
Sony will redesign and implement changes to the main board, and likely the chips on it, but that doesn't mean the form factor of the case has to change. It's very possible it could of course, as there is room for making it smaller...I mean, look at the late model PS2's to see how tiny they got. I don't know if they will offer a new enclosure, but it's certainly possible, but the other things you mention can be handled through simple redesigns of the internals.
They probably will have a PS4 slim eventually
Which will be the size of a sim card
Would that make it a slim card? I'll get my coat 😂
when they drop to $199 in 2017 they will use the slim to cut costs on shipping and manufacturing and such. A man wishes they had a 4 USB model for a little more though
Is there any reason why you would need a 4 USB model since you can charge your Dual Shock 4 by any decent USB to micro USB charger be it battery or mains connected. I actually do use one of my USB ports for my headphones if I want 7.1 sound but if I connect to my sound system I can use either cable or wireless for my head-phones if I use them.
Maybe this is the gen that ends slims? I would like to see an official portable PS4
Xmas 2017, we will see the slim and it will be the only slim this generation before we see ps5 at E3 2019 with 2020 release imo.
I don't think it needs a slim. The design is already sleak and slim as it is. Whoever designed that PS4 w/o a power brick sure deserves a medal. It's definitely a good looking console.
Any slimmer and it wont able to stand up on its side.
that's what sold separately stands are for!
PS2 slim made that possible.
Could reduce the width and depth. Slim doesn't necessarily mean that the height changes...although it usually does. I'd imagine all three dimensions would change if they decided to go with a slim. There probably is plenty of things that could be consolidated on the board and made more compact. I don't know if there would be much room for reducing the APU size given it's already pretty small, but if they could make it so the APU uses less wattage, they could theoretically cut back on the cooling system which takes up about half the height of the current PS4.
The PS4 will stand on it's end without a support although I would always recommend one if you are going to put it on the floor, especially if children and animals are around. With my PS4 it is connected to one of the HDMI ports on my monitor and switch-able between my PC in about 1 to 2 seconds. If my wife is not using our large screen HDTV in the living room I can disconnect (ie. HDMI and power connection) from my PC setup and move and reconnect to my HDTV in less than a minute. It should be noted that I only disconnect the HDMI and power cable I don't actually take them with me when I move my PS4. This is because the HDMI and power cables are industry standard and only a few dollars so why would I need to move them. A brick on the other hand is more expensive than a simple power cable and a pain to move unless you don't actually care how your set-up looks.
PS4 is the perfect size already.. making it any smaller would probably risk leaving it without sufficient ventilation.
My PS4 which is the latest CUH1202A model is very quiet and unless I put my ear to the device I can't hear the fan. When playing a game you can feel the heat being exhausted which in the case of "The Witcher 3" is about 75W when the game is running. Standby on my model is about 55W.
The PS4 is already a piece of design art. Is already slim and small. I don't see how can they make it slimmer. Is already good as it is.
Keep refining the internals and keep the outside the same.
Here's why the author is wrong. Cost. There are additional savings that go along with shrinks associated with a slim model. It allows for smaller parts, boxes, less packing material and plastic to make the given parts. It takes less metal to make a mini cooper than it does to make a large suv. Same goes for a console and plastic. Though the savings may only be a few dollars you have to take into account you're talking about tens of millions of units. A three dollar savings becomes 300 million saved for 100 million consoles.
I think we will see a revised model around the time the Vr headset is released. Reason is they have stated that the Vr box will connect via the usb socket, so surely they would release a model with the socket at the rear/side of the console?........at last.
You do a hardware refresh to either fix a known hardware defect, or to spark sales. Seeing as the current PS4 has no issues on either of those fronts - why bother with a Slim version now? Wait until Sales drop off
Theres so many reasons console manufactors release slim versions of their consoles. 1. To afford a price drop. Companies are always looking for ways to cut costs not only on the distribution side but also for consumers. 2. Most revisions offer not only a smaller version of their console, but also they are more energy efficient. The ps3 saw 3 revisions over a 6 year time period. The fat, the slim, the super slim, which i thought was ugly af. 3. After 3 or 4 years, technology has prospered quite a bit. A ps4 slim would benefit from a few updates. Usb 3.0 for better 4k movie playback ect. Although i love the dualshock 4, often times in ps history they update their controller. I think they could update the controller along with a slim ps4 with a slim ds4. Better battery life, lighter weight, ability to turn the light bar off or make it a lot smaller like the ds3's red light. I do agree however that the xb1 will most likely see a slim before the ps4 but dont count sony out. They are sitting in a really nice position that a ps4 slim isnt needed asap. Reguardless what sony does, it will most likely will be met with rave reviews no matter when a ps4 slim is released.
they already have USB 3.0 but a man agrees Xbox will get one sooner. For one they need the sales spike more, for two they need the size reduction more, for three they have the space inside to reduce size as it has a wonky interior with lots of unused space
Playstation 4 already has a great design. Just focus on the software please.
cause the same people work on hardware and software at Sony /s
You idiot I am trying to say put more into the software not designing another console. What the hell does doing one job or another got to do with what I just said? Jesus...
The software and hardware people would definitely liaise with each other but they may not be specialists across both disciplines.
yes name calling very mature A man thinks both departments have plenty of funding. No games will be cut if Sony decides to make a slim.
I'd rather wait to get a updated ps4 capable of playing 4k blu rays when they come out tbh, consoles small enough as it is.
The PS4 and also the the XB1 can already play 4k movies.
A PS4 Slim releasing would just be fat shaming in all honesty
technically they wouldnt be allowed to sell it in France with the recent skinny model ban.
They did a great job making it slim already. They just have to make it a little more quite and done.
^That made no sense.
The latest model CUH1202A is very quiet. In fact I can't hear it even though it is less then one meter from my ears and I do have very good hearing.
Ye this is what i meant. My brother has the first version but its is really loud if you play a big game. If they fixed that its all great.
It will get a slim, but I don't think it will be this year. As they state the 14nm fabs are a huge deal, but with the wait there is now a serious log jam for production on those nodes. Even if full production comes soon, they should easily be booked throughout the year, so unless sony already has a deal in place, its not likely.
I agree size-wise it certainly doesn't need a slim version although I can't see why people would think it was a bad thing. However it does definitely need a new hardware revision with smaller chipset & fan to make it quieter. I don't need one but i would be happy if they released one.
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The PS4 is already a sexy slim beast so I don't think there is any need for a slim version. It is compact and light enough that I can take it on my frequent travels. Can't do that with my XB1.
I do agree the PS4 is so small that it is very portable. While the XB1 is also portable you definitely need a larger carry bag since you also have to carry the power brick and an industry standard power cable which the PS4 uses is so much smaller and cheaper.
The slim isn't really for consumers. These companies would never release a slim version if it didn't cut costs. That being said, I own both a fat 60gb PS3 and a slim PS3. The bc model is like a space heater. Saves electricity in the winter and allows me to play my retail PS2 games. The slim model is cooler and quieter with a sexy sleak design. I love them both for different reasons.
They should release a ps4 "quiet" imo...
There will be one. There always has been, even since the original Playstation.
This model already is slimmed and got cuting edge design. I dont have any problems with the noise
My wild guess is that now that AMD is doing big or rather smal things with their GPU's. As they move from 28nm to 14nm on some. Is that down the road this could happen to the architecture in the PS4. A more power efficient GPU that do not get nearly as hot as the one today. And that it can be why and how they can shrink the PS4 even more. 2016 is an exciting year for the GPU's :)
They forget the two main reasons to release a slim -Cutting costs -Driving the price of the console up Slim models are not just there to renew the interest of the consumers, they are here to replace the original model by one that is more cost efficient while upgrading some little stuff to warrant an increase of the price.
Sony last gen release their slim models every 3 years so I don't see why a slim model wouldn't come out this year. Original PS3 2006: http://vignette4.wikia.noco... PS3 Slim 2009: https://upload.wikimedia.or... PS3 Slim 2012: http://i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d...
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