American Hardware and Software Chart for Week Ending Aug 9th, 2008

VGChartz reports that their estimate for American hardware and software chart for week Ending Aug 9th, 2008 is as follows:

Total Hardware: [Last Week #]

DSL: 145,021 (-28%) [200,223]
Wii: 90,895 (-14%) [105,974]
PSP: 64,890 (-9%) [71,507]
360: 63,079 (-30%) [89,568]
PS3: 50,352 (+23%) [41,027]
PS2: 37,502 (-6%) [39,961]

Top 10 Software:

1 Soul Calibur IV (360) 104,253 402,289
2 Wii Sports (Wii) 90,895 13,518,003
3 Wii Fit (Wii) 76,173 1,637,512
4 Soul Calibur IV (PS3) 69,156 236,514
5 Wii Play (Wii) 57,002 6,873,490
6 Mario Kart Wii (Wii) 55,255 2,805,048
7 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3) 49,157 1,174,019
8 NCAA Football 09 (360) 32,822 455,380
9 Guitar Hero: On Tour (DS) 30,599 679,388
10 Pokemon Diamond / Pearl (DS) 28,113 5,454,815

Software Totals: [Last Week Total]

DSL: 915,023 (-6%) [971,783] Tie Ratio: 4.38
360: 804,679 (-24%) [1,063,210] Tie Ratio: 9.30
Wii: 799,252 (-8%) [867,297] Tie Ratio: 6.18
PS3: 465,060 (-20%) [583,000] Tie Ratio: 6.54
PS2: 312,826 (-2%) [319,965] Tie Ratio: n/a
PSP: 204,103 (-8%) [222,171] Tie Ratio: 4.01

[El_Colombiano]

Why do people keep approving this sites "sales numbers"? They're more like sales guesses. Maybe its because the .com at the end gives you a false impression of a legit site, I could make a .com site and post random guesses.

[chaosatom]

Anyways, I think vgcharts get some deep satisfaction if they see xbox on top. More money from microsoft perhaps??

[Mr_Kuwabara]

Yeah it says DS Lite....

But I agree, VGchartz are crap.

[zo6_lover27]

They are guesses, estimates actually, but estimates are guesses.

[power of Green]

Fake game comparisons lol.

LOL... You say under or over tracking sales numbers is proof there has been this anti Sony conspiracy, did GT bribe reviewers too?.

I guess VGC must be tracking traffic ontop of other things to help them come up with their numbers. VGC use to sample PS3 traffic etc and over tracked PS3 sales and under tracked the 360 sales for a year too. lol

I find it funny PS3 fan forget VGC use to under track 360 sales and over track PS3 because they thought PS3 would pick much eariler.

NPD has you people too cocy over an 20k lead in July as if the clearnce was for the whole month, not to mention all gamers had to do is wait a week and get 40 extra gigs for $50 more.

Gamers waiting for another SKU is an excuse I'm down on but MSFT did advertise the clearance and the new SKU on XBL lots, when lots of people were looking.

[morganfell]

Spydiggity you need to reword your comment. You are off the mark abut a great many people.

I dare you to go back to the last time VGChartz had the PS3 on top and see what I said.

[PopEmUp]

bring up hope for the 360 fans, and when NPD come then you know what will happen

[Silellak]

"It's always Xbox fans.

It is sad to think what a awesome console generation this would have been without the corrosive effect of Microsoft and its tiny group of mostly US gamers."

If any 360 fan posted this about Sony fans, they would have 60 disagrees, 2 agrees, would lose 3 bubbles, and would have about 14 replies demanding they "post that crap in the open zone".

Why is this behavior OK for Sony fans at N4G but not for Microsoft fans? Personally I don't think it's acceptable for ANYONE to post crap like that in the Gamer Zone, but the N4G community seems to think otherwise.

Oh, and for the record, VG Chartz is crap, has always been crap, and will always be crap. Please stop wasting bandwith by submitting anything posted by that site.

[ScratchMarks]

How is it possible vgchartz isn't banned from this site?

vgchartz is banned from every major gaming site but this one. Most gaming forums you risk getting banned even just bringing the site up without actually linking to it.

[CrazzyMan]

Good estimates, but on very limited data.
It`s better then nothing on a weeakly basis.

BUT this is just ESTIMATES, you shouldn`t think about this numbers as about sales. =)

EDIT: below, if you look to OTHER data, it`s CLOSE enough.
Just because some sales do not match NPD? They will be corrected later.
Anyway, NPD has only 60% of real NA sales, BUT rest 40% are also ESTIMATES.
while VG has only 1-3% of real sales, rest are estimates.

[ScratchMarks]

CrazzyMan:

"VGchartz are doing only ESTIMATES
Good estimates"

Fake Vgchartz numbers:

X360 - 395,391

REAL sales numbers:

Xbox 360 205k

"It`s better then nothing on a weeakly basis. "

Oh god...

Vgchartz needs to be banned from this site permanently.

[Gam71]

lol, sony defence force out in full

paid for by microsoft perhaps.

Always a classic. That any site or anyone who doesn't throw undue praise on everything sony is in ms pocket.

to the people on here
paid for by sony perhaps?

happened before
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hard...
http://www.alliwantforxmasi...

now that sony has been proven to do what you always accuse ms of doing where is the proof that ms have done it.

Those in glass houses, true gamers? and all that.
Silly silly sony

[Emmo]

A lot of people posting on this forum seem to miss the point that VG Numbers are for the Americas, not JUST USA. This is one of the reasons that the 360 tracks higher than the PS3. In the rest of the Americas 360 is without doubt the number one machine.

Chill and stop having an embolism guys.

[power of Green]

Holy crap is that true?, VGC tracks America's sales but NPD is only doing US sales?.

That would explain why so many thought VGC was off by 200k when it comes to the 360 and 50k when it comes to PS3.

I wonder if some Sony fans know this yet still try to trick others.

[power of Green]

These guys are not even that different from VGC, other than the fact they do each country separately.
http://www.npd.com/corpServ...

EDIT @1.15, I'm talking about the version of NPD that is posted on this site for bragging rights(US).

[RememberThe357]

It says "American" nothing about "the Americas", so I don't see anything you could draw any kind of conclusion from.

[DaTruth]

PS3 has won hands down in Canada at last check so stop grasping at straws. Unless you think Mexico bought 200,000 consoles last month.

[dantesparda]

Again complaining about the the PS3 fanboys. The 360 fanboys do the same thing and are the just as bad/same, but here is Sillelak conplaining again about only the PS3 fanboys,...hmmm.

[AuToFiRE]

vgchartz and your obvious 360 fanboyism, will you ever be so neutral in the console war?

[silverchode]

after julys npd vg should be banned.

[doshey]

wont happen admins all ready said no to banning it so all we have to do is just report them if we dont want them here anymore which wont happen so may as well just avoid this crap of numbers

[ErcsYou]

.... VG charts needs to just give up before they make a bigger fool out of themselves... they should realize by now the there estimates are not even close. Whats the point of guessing over and over and being wrong every time. I could understand if they were right sometimes but being off by 100,000 kind of kills your credibility.

[Surfman]

after all NPD numbers, VGCharts continue with their wrong predictions. PS3 outsell the 360 in 2008 every months but one. We should stop approving those articles from VGchart.

[zo6_lover27]

These damn estimates again

EDIT

Estimates are guesses, but there educated guesses, which this is obviously not educated.

[El_Colombiano]

Estimates? Hardly, more (much more) like guesses.

[morganfell]

Guesses, no not even that. More like a spinning wheel and a blindfolded dart throw.

[silverchode]

switch the 360s hardware sales with the ps3s and itll make sense.

[Shane Kim]

Thats about correct.

[zapass]

they rejoice for a while but thing is, every time there's a painful return to reality with that lingering pain in the ass

lol

[ErcsYou]

My estimate/guess is that VG charts will never be right.....

[joemomma]

Stop saying ps3 is being oputsold by the 360! It hasnt happeneed for the last 7 months so it wont happen now!

[Zizo_ha]

I though its been banned in N4G why they still post from that crappy site .

[importfighter]

This site should ban this site and someone should write AN ARTICLE ON WHY THERE FIGURES ARE FULL OF B.S!!!

[freakyzeeky]

VGCharts still undertracking PS3 numbers, eh? :)

[power of Green]

No one is under tracking PS3 lol, you try to trick people in thinking VGC is wrong by large numbers every month.

July comparison numbers were: NPD(US) vs VGC(America's) that is why there was an 200 thousnad difference, one country vs many, will do that.

[DaTruth]

Again, NPD Canada reports every three months and PS3 kicks the crap out of 360. Leave the straws where they are. And one month of USA is like 6 months in Canada, could you ever posibly think the 200,000 console difference is Mexico and Canada.

[juuken]

VG Chartz continues on *yet* again. After July, their asses should have been kicked out of here.

[doshey]

the way to take it out is just keep complaining about it to the admins then maybe we can get somewhere

u do make a good point but then we get really bad fanboy wars going with the bs numbers from vgcharts

[juuken]

Wait, silver has a point. It *is* funny watching that. :D

[TheDeadMetalhead]

...*Makes some Popcorn*

It'll be this week's Midnight Movie!!

*Offers Juuken, doshey and SilverChode some popcorn*

[doshey]

oh why thank u bubbles to share for everyone

no its a popbubble party haha

[silverchode]

bubble party?

[TheDeadMetalhead]

YES! ^__^

@ Z06 Lover

HA! That is funny! Bubble? Popcorn? (I need to pop more popcorn...)

[juuken]

*offers baked chocolate chip cookies*

Yesh, a bubble party indeed! :3

[zo6_lover27]

The funny thing is I've acctually heard a 360 fanboy claim NPD was BS and VGChartz were the real numbers. Of course, this came from 360rxors

EDIT

I've been called Nasim!!!
*takes skittles*

Why you ask?

Calling BS on European VGChartz estimates, and the ps3 actually(according to VGC) out sold the 360.

And who did it?

You guessed it, GOTY 2007

[ErcsYou]

*Mmmmmmm... i accept your offer of baked chocolate chip cookies * ill bring the whiskey

[TheDeadMetalhead]

But I'm expecting GOTY's PM aaaanyday now...

It's official! Anybody who replies to Juuken's comment above gets a bubble, popcorn, and apparently cookies and whiskey (None for me. I only 13)...and...Skittles?

@doshey

Basically, everyone who wants to participate in the bubble party bubbles up everyone else in the bubble party. Then everyone in the bubble party bubbles him up. Which is good. Because I need bubbles :(

@doshey (again)

Yay! But damn! I seem to never get my 5th bubble back! At one time I had 7, too! Better days... :(

@Zo6 Lover

I've never been called Nasim. I'm kinda sad about that because

1. I've wanted to laugh at GOTY through PM

2. It means that no one has a clue who I am :(

@SilverChode

I got restricted once. It was because I accidentally said....that Xbox Fanboy word that you're not supposed to say in the Gamer Zone in the Gamer Zone thinking it was the Open Zone for 5 days. It sucked, too. Because it was an honest mistake...

[doshey]

this is amazing i get a bubble, popcorn, cookies and whiskey, and skittles great night haha

TheDeadMetalhead dont worry u have been hooked up man

anyone down for some babes haha

[ErcsYou]

lol...In their eye's, we are all just another account made by nasim

And yes, i would like some skittles. They will go great with our feast of popcorn, cookies and whiskey

[nice_cuppa]

360 beating ps3 again
And with the sc4 numbers i expect a tekken for 360 announcement soon !

[doshey]

dont be dumb vgcharts never gets it right

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[TheDeadMetalhead]

Don't you have some sucking to do?

The 3 reasons I hate VG Charts (the same 3 reasons that I hate Pachter)

1. They're ALWAYS wrong

2. They think everything they say is gospel

3. They're MAJOR attention whores!

...But they set Xbots up for dissapointment. And I'm okay with that XD

[nice_cuppa]

no need for name calling

[PoSTedUP]

and you called ME a p*ssy, lol

[silverchode]

lol

[doshey]

reported for believing vgcharts

[ErcsYou]

Reported as offensive?
no need for name calling?

Isn't this the open zone?

[doshey]

^^^^^
ya the last time i checked

[silverchode]

its the fun zone.

[doshey]

most of the time it is the dumb xtard zone

TheDeadMetalhead i need more bubbles for a party in here haha oh well back to the gamers zone to make out party even better i will bring the babes haha

but i just brought the babes to the gamers zone :( two partys in one night is cool with me though spread the babes between the two zones

[TheDeadMetalhead]

IT'S TEH PARTY ZONE!!! ^__^ I ordered Pizza!

I'll bring more popcorn!

PARTAY!!!
PARTAY!!!
PARTAY!!!

[silverchode]

ill bring the drinks

[PopEmUp]

And I turn up the music, trance that is

[zo6_lover27]

Quote from VGChartz about July NPD numbers

"NPD reported figures which were largely in line with VGC expectations."

http://news.vgchartz.com/ne...

[Rock Bottom]

Seriously?!

[solidworm]

im guessing that vg charts are guessing about guessing and when not guessing are using complicated algorithms based on Newtons law of guesstimation. Basically what that says is when unsure,...guess.

[nice_cuppa]

in my first post a 2 letter word ... -> If

[doshey]

but u could be talking about is too

[Irving]

NPD numbers for July
DS 608k
Wii 555k
Playstation 3 225k
PSP 222k
Xbox 360 205k
Playstation 2 155k

VG numbers for July http://vgchartz.com/amonthl...
DS - 914,559
Wii - 699,591
X360 - 395,391
PSP - 361,661
PS3 - 259,599
PS2 - 184,823

You decide

[koston3647]

lol at almost double the 360 sales for VG talk about subtle bias

[Cartesian3D]

they edited their numbers.. Im sure last time I checked ,VG underestimated PS3 numbers (PS3 numbers was sth like 190,000 or 200,000) and 360 outsell PS3 2:1 with those numbers..

with these numbers they want to say :

WE OVERESTIMATE all consoles,we are not bias! lmao..

BTW the only console that had growth in numbers is PS3,its another sign for their apologize.. lol

[Emmo]

NPD numbers USA

VGCharts all of the Americas

[nice_cuppa]

go to openzone
Note removal of 1 post among many (ps3 fan) posts that are also offensive.
Now know this
I am at work and can report all day everyday while getting paid
The discrimination must stop

[doshey]

okay u want a cookie for being at work and on a videogame website cant live without this site and what discrimination is going on here

thats what im sayin

[silverchode]

wat?

[morganfell]

Someone should be reported alright. You. You should be reported for being at work and screwing off instead of doing your job.

Second, you should be reported because you think 2 letters, I and F, should excuse that ridiculous comment you made at the start of this thread.

You want the 360 to beat the PS3 that is why you made that comment. It wasn't logical deduction or any sort of awareness concerning the huge mess VGChartz made of July's estimates or of just about every estimate they have ever made. Ever. And I use the word ever here as in...ever.

It is obvious what you want. That is fine except the idea that VGChartz might be correct is devoid of any reason when one looks at their track record. Someone should call CNN because we have just located a human that managed to survive by living under a rock for the past several years.

Why don't you want in one hand and crap in the other one and see which one fills up first.

[N00BZSUCKASS]

360: 63,079
PS3: 50,352

owned.

360: 804,679
PS3: 465,060

owned again.

[PoSTedUP]

you are n00bzRtehgey
that likes men
and little boys

owned.

why dont you
go make another
account so you
dont embarrass
yourself again

owned again.

XD

[Homicide]

Just like how VGchartz had 360 beating PS3 in July. We know how that turned out when the NPD numbers came up :)

[Bazookajoe_83]

Vgchartz, must be the laziest job in the world. Throw a dice and write down the number...

[MysteriousMaverick]

Then get paid for it...

[Bordel_1900]

VGChartz is a joke.

[karlostomy]

that:

360 sales are 30% down
ps3 sales are 23% up

and still the 360 outsells the ps3 by 10k this week in NA

[silverchode]

keep telling yourself that till the npd numbers come out. :)

[air1]

why do they kepp doing it? they never get it right

[Slade23]

ok you guys keep saying it's a legit site and all that. but you guys are just jealous that xbox 360 is leading well in second place. will you guys stop whining that 360 beat ps3 in sales chart. and how is it control by 360 fans when wii and DS are leading. just stupid just real stupid. if a 360fanboy run VGchartz they would of put 360 in first place. insted of wii and DS. but no they didn't!!! and also read close for god sake they said for the week ending Aug 9th they didn't put for the month of july. read before you say something becuase some of your comments make no sense, i mean how would you know it's legit or false, i found some other charts that ps3 was leading. yeah read all of it before you say something stupid or even check. thats all i have to say. man what has gone to this world today!! :(

[dro]

y is n4g still letting people post vgc numbers...? -.-

[Kyur4ThePain]

The mods obviously enjoy looking at these bogus numbers themselves.

Again, get rid of this rubbish and ban Cyrus.

Delete this post, and I'll just post it twice more.

[Silogon]

We just had numbers 2 days ago!!!!! This is absurd and I'm done listening to this junk! Estimates are one thing and "real" numbers based on fact are another. VG charts are giving their best guesses and that is no different than someone having a blog and giving their opinion on something.

Ban this junk from this site!!!

[ElementX]

So MGS4 only sold about 1.2 million in the US? I thought the numbers would be higher.

[ScottEFresh]

VGCRAP

[na2ru1]

otherwise it wastes peoples time and money especially in accounting

[smurfie4]

They do it to make xboxfans feel good about themselves. Then when the npd numbers come in they change their numbers according to npd.

[DFresh]

Wow 360 isn't winning by much in software anymore.
Watch I bet you once all PS3 games have trophies, has a connection to Home, makes bigger game improvements every month constantly, and is affordable people will just completely forget the 360 for multiplatform games and go straight to the PS3.
The reasons why the 360 software sold more then the PS3 at first was purely for achievements now that PS3 has expanded on it by having trophies and making Home there's no reason to get that game for the 360 anymore.
360 sold for achievements that's it graphics for all multiplatform games look the same, online is the same, campaigns and stories are the same.
It's just achievements that sell 360 games.

[MysteriousMaverick]

VGChartz are full of crap.

Reported.

[ELite_Ghost]

wasn't this site hacked?!?!