"The game has managed 1.87 million sales as of now, and is still going strong due to its impressive The Old Hunter DLC that has added so much more depth and new weapons/items."
I don't know where you got your numbers (Most likely Vgchartz) but Bloodborne is over 2 million now.
And Halo 5: "Despite this, it has managed an impressive 3.14 million sales globally so far. That’s a good number consider how it was surrounded by some hot titles."
Nathan Drake Collection: "The result? 3.1 million sales of a collection of one of the best game franchises in the last decade."
Halo 5 and Nathan Drake Collection selling almost the same numbers surprising when one is a sequel to the biggest Xbox exclusive and the other is a Remaster.
I can definitely see Uncharted 4 breaking the 3 million sold copies in less than 3 days.
VGChartz undertracked ROTR sales by like 700,000 don't trust them one bit. Bloodborne also is already confirmed to have hit 2mil lol VGChartz needs to be banned
I think the most interesting fact is that of 9 PS4's 1 Million+ sellers, 4 of them are New IPs (Bloodborne, Knack, The Order & Until Dawn)...While of the 8 XB1's 1 Million+ sellers, only 1 of them is a New IP (Ryse)
Footnote: Personal opinion of how good (or bad) you think these games are, does not diminish the impressiveness that is 4 New IPs being amongst the 9 PS4 1Million+ sellers
CORRECTION: Xbox One has 10 1 Million+ exclusives (Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, Forza Horizon 2, Forza 6, Gears Ultimate, Master Chief Collection, Halo 5, Ryse, Titanfall & Rise of the Tomb Raider)
PS4 also has 10 1 Million+ exclusives (Bloodborne, InfamousSS, Killzone:SF, Knack, LBP3, TLOU:R, The Order, Nathan Drake Collection, Until Dawn & Driveclub)
It is still impressive that HALF of PS4's 1 Million+ sellers are New IP (Bloodborne, Knack, The Order, Until Dawn & DriveClub)...While only 2 of XB1's 1 Million+ sellers are New IP (Titanfall & Ryse)
Footnote: Personal opinion of how good (or bad) you think these games are, does not diminish the impressiveness that is 5 New IPs being amongst the 10 PS4 1Million+ sellers
Don't forget that even though the PS3 sold more hardware, the 360 annihilated it in actual game sales. Xbox 360 sold roughly 40,000,000 more games than PS3.
I think a lot of that is due to people like my parents buying a PS3 because it was a killer blu-ray player, back when stand alone blu-ray players for home theater cost as much if not more than the console. I'd also attribute the out-of-warranty high failure rate towards the end of last gen of PS3 hardware, and find it quite odd how very few media ever reported on it. Every single one of my friends who owned a PS3 FAT had theirs crap out, and ended up buying a slim to replace it. I fixed my PS3 FAT 3 times by reflowing the solder. 4th attempt was the end of it.
Come on now.. VGChartz doesn't track digital sales. It only tracks physical sales, so for games especially, it will ALWAYS undertrack. despite that, its no different than using Amazon numbers or any other subset of sales as an indicator of success. You won't ever get exact numbers but you can get a rough idea. That is what it is intended to do. It should always be taken with a grain of salt, but does give some insight that we would otherwise never have (for those that care.)
Wow...some of you guys here are just dense to no end! WTF does install base got to do with anything discussed in the article? It's ahout game sales and only the sale numbers matter. 1mil sold to a base of 15mil is the same as 1mil to the base of 30mil no matter how you wanna spin it. It's still 1mil for god sake. No dev or publisher out there is stupid enough out there to even see in the way you fanboys see it!
Yet, some of you guys here still praising RoTR for finally selling a million with a userbase of 100mil! What's up with that? The ND collection is released around 2 months earlier than TRoR and it has triple the sales. You guys aren't thinking SE is watching and thinking what the numbers could have been if they had released RoTR on all platforms? See...that actually matters, not your "1mil sold on the lesser userbase" BS!
Even hardcore pc racers agree the physics engine in forza is better if you have a good wheel that disables the assists in the game. For some reason forza are a pain to let you turn them all off.
Halo 5 at 3.14 mil is a conservative figure IMO I'd say it's in the range of 4mil-6mil with digital included. Amazon's best selling exclusive game of 2015 on any system, definitely sold better than VGChartz guesstimate
I'm sorry but for a halo proper game, halo 5 sucks. The story is a**, masterchief is barly in it, and the floaty controls make the gunplay feel abit meh. It would be fine as a spin off, but as a canon halo game its its way underwhelming.
Do you have the source for that claim of 4~6 million for digital downloads?
I am well aware that getting an exact figure for digital downloads is straight forward if Microsoft will publish the figures however from what I can gather they haven't. Getting exact figures is a simple database search that would take seconds.
Still I can't see digital downloads for the PS3, PS4, Xbox360 or XB1 being more than equal or greater than media sales. Could be wrong but I doubt it.
Statistics can be fairly complex branch of mathematics and is fully dependent on the sample in that the smaller the sample the more complex the statistics and the greater the margin of error.
"Halo 5 and Nathan Drake Collection selling almost the same numbers surprising when one is a sequel to the biggest Xbox exclusive and the other is a Remaster. "
Hardly seems like a good case to ignore the install base difference. Doesnt really seem surprising to me. Uncharted is Playstation's biggest franchise at the moment.
@martinstrings "Not to mention the sparse late-2015 lineup... =D"
This is only because Sony cares about the entire year, not the last 3 months. Microsoft should try it sometime. Maybe then they'll get sales year round, instead of in a few months. /S
Kaz means sparse for sony... despite clinging to that statement why not address the fact sony released more exclusives last year (12 months) without the normal tripe deflectors use like 'don't interest me' bundled into their reasoning.
In regards to these numbers, no thanks vg charts even if they're in favour of my favoured manufacturer so arguing over said numbers is pointless. As it stands from official sources, ps games including multies chart and sell quite fine.
I dont play the "counting game", I play the "games that look even remotely appealing" game. AAA wise, Microsoft takes its competition to the cleaners consistently. Feel free to count all the garbage you want and then compare numbers. Hell, I'll let you count The Order twice if it will help grow your Epeen.
Fact is that your "real numbers" have no relevance whatsoever to my personal enjoyment. I have no intention of putting any stock in your numbers game. Take from that what you will, no skin off my nose.
Playstation fans have been busy counting and quantifying for the entire course of this gen as if to prove a point. What that point is I cannot say.
Their first party was pretty much on an off year (this year they will more than make up for it though), I think only SCE San Diego was the only one to release anything "AAA", 3rd party picked up the slack though and delivered with the exclusives.
Seems like you're ignoring the fact that Halo has been around longer and you would expect has a much larger fanbase. Halo 5 didn't even move as many Xbox Ones as expected. And I should add that "sparse" lineup doesn't apply to either the Xbox One for the first part of the year or the PS4 for the second part. Exclusive-wise, fine. But there was plenty to play all around.
Stay cynical, though. You're doing pretty well with that.
uncharted only did 75% of those numbers because it was a pack in for all ps4s except the call of duty or battlefront ps4's. Lets not act like uncharted is even close to doing halo numbers lol
Also what I see is that Sony have the confidence to release new ip's early in the year and still sell over 1 million copies of the games usually in launch week
Microsoft rely on releasing theirs around the holidays and some games don't even sell a million until the holidays and discounts hit. Like Forza 6.
Well that trend by MS is changing in 2016 so the argument is now mute! If anything MS wants to provide quality over random quantity (for the sake of numbers and bragging rights) which should be applauded for.
It's easy to see how when you (not criticizing you) learn to form your own opinions and views. No metacritic reviews should be taken seriously in this day and age anyway. We have Way to many fanboys on both sides coming in with bias views and not even being honest with what they believe. Let the games speak for themselves instead of getting caught up in daily BS.
@candystop Well I went with Metacritic because my personal opinion would be way over to PS. I do not play racing or FPS so there are only 2 xbox1 exclusives I'm interested in, all the others are out or coming out for PC.
You post implies that Sony is pushing out games merely to pad numbers and brag about it and then you talk about fanboys and biased gamers...pot meet kettle
Of course you don't want to consult metacritic because it doesn't suit your argument and your argument (personal opinion) falls apart.
Tell me. What MS Exclusive has scored over 90 on metacritic? Over 90 on metacritic is only reserved for the highest quality games. Thats right. Not 1 exclusive since Xbone's existence has reached the ultimate quality score.
People point to metacritic to take subjectivity out of the argument. PS fans will say PS has the best exclusives. Xbox fanboys will say Xbone has the best exclusives.
@candystop But regardless of numbers, Sony takes risks with new IP, that's the point. I love Xbox's games too but PS4 is where to find more new IPs. Some prefer that, most don't obviously. Just saying. This is why I loved PS2. So many new IPs. Crazy ideas but it was fun. Less nowadays that it's more expensive and time consuming.
How is it surprising when PS4 has a 13 million larger install base of X1? There is not a single game on X1 that should sell as good or better than PS4.
Also, X1 users had a money draining situation this holiday. Forza Motorsports 6, Gears Ultimate, Rare Replay, Halo 5, Rise of the Tomb Raider, plus all the multi-platform games.
PS4 users had the multiplatform games, Japanese games (which sold like crap), and Uncharted Collection.
How well did disgaea 5, tales of zestiria, dragon quest heroes and final fantasy type 0 hd sell actually? I really enjoyed these games (I love jrpgs and japanese games) and I'm tempted to label disgaea 5 as my personal goty.
@BakPain I got my numbers by taking Sony released sold through number of 35.9 million from a couple days ago and subtracted the 13 million larger base that NeoGamer232 said Sony is up by...
That would place Xbox 1 as sold through number of 22.9 million according to NeoGamer232.
I know MS hasn't released any numbers that's why I was wondering how he got that it was ~23 million sold through. Even peoples most bullish estimates do not even have the shipped #s that high...
The gap IS actually bigger. I'm a fanboy of both systems, but the PS4is currently around 36 million and the XB1 is probably just reaching 20 million. Gap is probably about 16-17 million. It's actually amazing if XB1 exclusives sold anywhere need the PS4 exclusive sales, since the PS4 has a much larger userbase.
It's a joke that N4G or any author uses VGChartz. It's not accurate whatsoever yet this site continues to publish results like its the gospel. You question VGChartz for the Bloodborne figures but seem more than willing to accept the data for Halo 5 and Uncharted to make your point that Halo 5 sold poorly when we don't know the facts.
I don't have one other than going by what publishers report. I'd rather not speculate how well games sell than trust VGChartz, which is clearly not even in the same ballpark as some of the reported numbers. Bloodborne, which was my game of the year in 2015, is a perfect example. For the entire Halo franchise, Microsoft reported something like over 66 million lifetime sales and VGChartz at the time wasn't even at 60 million. And you want to trust that?
VGCharts may not be dead accurate although they don't actually show error margins which are a normal part of statistical analysis particularly with small samples.
The only way to give an accurate figure in sales is for the producer to give this information out and I am not holding my breath for that.
If there are any other sites that give out more more accurate information then please let us know. At least VGCharts does tell us how they arrive at their results and while there are margins for error at least they are better then making wild guesses.
VGCHARTZ aaah so gud. Halo sitting at 3 million is a joke, its about over the double. MS will announce the 10 million goal for sure sometime this year. Just for you to understand how good its sold:
I have 9 People in my FL that got Fallout 4 18 People got COD:BO3 13 People got SW:BF 41 People got Halo 5
The most people i added through Titanfall and COD. Halo 5 sold really really well, dont let some guessing site like vgchartz fool you on that one.
One of the top comments on IGN about Xbox games passing the 1 million mark implied that Halo 5 was just now reaching that total. It would be nice if Microsoft could actually come out and tell us the figures but until that happens people will push VGChartz as the be all, end all for game sales despite the fact it doesn't even track digital sales.
If Halo 5 sales are anywhere close to what you are saying we would have heard about it from MS. Instead they said how much everything with the Halo name sold dollar-wise.
@dkp23 Uuummm CoD has always sold more copies then Halo dude. It's multiplat and on 5 different platforms and usually sells over 14 million copies worldwide. Halo is usually the better game however. Halo usually sells between 7-10 million on one platform. Only other exclusives that usually do this on one console platform is Mario Kart, Pokemon, and Gran Turismo.
Sony/Microsoft is God!!! Saying that the Son of God, the PS4/Xbox One, is not better than the other consoles is heresy!!! Do not try and sway our devotees with such poisonous logic and dubious data! Repent! And you might yet be saved!
* Sorry, just not a big fan of the Sony/MS extremists on this site. I'm a sole ps4 user. I'm doing this to make people understand that devotion towards a corporate entity that only wants to make money is stupid. Saying that everything they're doing is good is not being a smart consumer. If fanboys continue acting like this, PS5 might end up becoming like the xbone this gen, like the ps3 before...
Its not being devoted to a corporate entity. It is being devoted to who is providing what you want. I was a Nintendo 'fanboy', then TG16, then Sega, then Sony. Its been mostly Sony for about 20 years, and that is because they are doing things right. (and I do have 2 other current gen machines) Just trying to explain why people are so biased towards Sony.
"The game has managed 1.87 million sales as of now, and is still going strong due to its impressive The Old Hunter DLC that has added so much more depth and new weapons/items."
I don't know where you got your numbers (Most likely Vgchartz) but Bloodborne is over 2 million now.
http://www.gamespot.com/art...
And Halo 5:
"Despite this, it has managed an impressive 3.14 million sales globally so far. That’s a good number consider how it was surrounded by some hot titles."
Nathan Drake Collection:
"The result? 3.1 million sales of a collection of one of the best game franchises in the last decade."
Halo 5 and Nathan Drake Collection selling almost the same numbers surprising when one is a sequel to the biggest Xbox exclusive and the other is a Remaster.
I can definitely see Uncharted 4 breaking the 3 million sold copies in less than 3 days.