PC, Xbox 360 Dominate Game Development

Game Daily writes: "According to the 2008 Game Development Survey, a new 180-page report from Game Developer Research that questions nearly 2,000 developers from North America and elsewhere (mostly Europe), the PC still rules the development roost. 70 percent of those surveyed said they are making games for the PC/Mac, compared to 43 percent who are making console games, 28 percent who are making games for web platforms and 16 percent who are making portable games."

[Fat Princess]

"Game Daily writes:"...

I stopped there.

[Vicophine]

LOL yeah really, bubbles +

[Mausenheimmer]

Unless of course the headline said something flattering about the PS3. Then GameDaily is the most reliable source on the internet.

[Bonsai1214]

me too. 360 development and pc development are basically the same thing. so they should just group them together.

[TheIneffableBob]

This info is from a "2008 Game Development Survey", though, not Game Daily.

[deeznuts]

Uh, a survey of mostly NA and some EU developers, favors the 360. Profound stuff.

Next thing you know, they're going to declare:

"A survey of 3,000 doctors find: Your sheeyat is brown and ours still stinks."

[Bangladesh]

With the exception of a very few, the Sony fanatics are avoiding this story like the plague. I guess they don't want to debate when they can't spin things in their favor.

[psycho360]

@fat princess

Joined 2 days back already having 7 bubbles and with 90% of comments borderlining fanboyism how many accounts do you have to make your bubbles not only from going down but increasing 1 per day? Soon you'll have 10 bubbles and with nothing but hate against 360 i'm sure you'll be there in every 360 news.

ON topic. MS is a software company and knows what drives the hardware i.e software (for few of you with single digit iq) so they designed their hardware in similar way which the devs were already comfortable with i.e pc architecture and so here it is ... more games, more quality titles, less wait for gamers on 360 platform, more variety with only exception being the hardware reliability. ALthough the latter has been addressed in the newer machines.

[Josie29]

The PC and 360 are two different platforms and should not be counted together.

By your logic, we could go ahead and count the PS3 with Blu-ray movies since the Cell has the same architecture as a video decoder.
http://www.videsignline.com...
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http://eetimes.eu/showArtic...

[TheMART]

"Interestingly, on the console front, console developers seem to show a preference for Microsoft's Xbox 360. 73 percent are creating games for 360, 58 percent (including some of the same respondents) for PS3, and 42 percent for the Wii."

Nice

[BattleAxe]

Hmmm, thats funny, I don't really hear of a whole lot of great games comming out for the XBOX. Maybe the reason that Microsoft hasn't got an event planned for Leipzig is because they have nothing to talk about. Looks like all those devs are hard at work making nothing for the XBOX 360.

Game Daily is a joke! LMAO

[Chaos Striker]

Talk about posting complete and utter bs all the way down the line. For one, The Last Remnant is a timed exclusive. Secondly, all Square Enix games? FF13 Versus? Dragon Quest? Thirdly: Socom being developed by a no-name developer? Try again cuz you fail beyond imagination. Confrontation is being developed by Slant Six, critically known for their development of Socom Tactical Strike and Syphon Filter Dark Mirror, which were critically acclaimed on the PSP. Finally, your saying that Resistance and LittleBigPlanet are not well known franchises? Thanks captain obvious considering LittleBigPlanet is new. Oh and as for your list for unknown franchises, Infinite Undiscovery and Left4Dead are unknown since they are new as well. Keep on typing and keep on contradicting yourself, I promote it.

*edit: wow at people who disagree with facts...

[BattleAxe]

Gears of War and Fable 2 are the only great exclusives coming out for the 36o. Really though, shouldn't it be called Gears of War 1.5? I mean wow, what an evolution in online gaming. They've really pushed things to the extreme with 5 vs.5 lol. Resistance has 30 vs. 30 with 8 player online Co-op, so what were you talking about again?? LMAO

Banjo Kazooi Nuts and Bolts?? please give me a break. There have already been a few articles saying that the game so far looks underwhelming.

I could care less about RPGs, but the PS3 has its own exclusive RPGs aswell like: Valkyria Chronicles, Eternal Sonata, Final Fantasy Verses XIII, White Knight Chronicles ect..

I haven't heard of any great exclusive racing games coming out for 360, but the PS3 has MotorStorm: Pacific Rift which looks fantastic.

What other great exclusive shooters does the 360 have coming out this year?................the answer is nothing. Having said that, I'm soooo looking forward to SOCOM: Confrontation. This game is so huge.

moving along, what does the 360 have for the beginning of next year? the answer..............nothing great.

What about Sony? Killzone 2 and God of War 3.......need I say anymore. Oh, and as far as Left for Dead goes, I'm not into Zombie Shooters, but EA will probably port this to the PS3, just like BioShock was ported by T2.

What about MMOs? XBOX 360 doesn't have any coming out, while Sony has The Agency, DC Universe Online and M.A.G.. So please son, you look silly coming around here shooting your mouth off about things you know very little about. I think that as an XBOX 360 owner, you're easy to please :)

[kevin1112]

it seems every xbox fanboy forgets that gran turismo is bigger than any 360 game.

[juuken]

What exactly are you people winning? Microsoft doesn't even have a conference planned on the 20th. Lol, just because FailDaily mentioned your system and the PC is easier to develop for, doesn't mean you guys are *winning*.

Lmfao.

[BattleAxe]

Come on you guys, I want to hear about what great titles the XBOX 360 has comming out!, and please don't say Banjo Kazooi: Nuts and bolts.LMAO

List some other EXCLUSIVES comming over the holidays and into the beginning of next year other than Gears of War 1.5 and Fable 2.

Wheres Alan Wake? Wheres Microsoft at Leipzig? Is the next big thing a HALO 3 expansion pack?

[AStupidXbot]

I'm going to be smart, of course since the 360 is easier to develop, some devs would prefer it for development. This is inaccurate.

[Mausenheimmer]

So how is it inaccurate? If devs prefer to develop games for the 360, then it is completely accurate to say that most games being developed are for the 360.

Are you even trying to troll anymore?

[N00BZSUCKASS]

pay him no mind. he's a stupid droid.

[pwnsause]

GAMEDAILY AGAIN? I thought this was Banned from N4G

[testerg35]

Please... if we decided to go with only what PS3 fans consider unbiased sites, we would only get articles from PS3xxxx.com sites.

Edit: Because they gave MGS4 an 8/10??? LOL.. I have MGS4 and I thought it was more movie than game. Prettiest movie, but that's it. I would say 8-9/10.

[pwnsause]

really? how so? by giving games such as MGS4 an 8 out of 10 because they looked at glass bottles instead of the character design/story and the actual enviornments themselves?

This was the same site that stated that the Xbox 360 was the greatest console ever created (a CURRENT GENERATION CONSOLE). DO you actually believe in their Journalistic integrity if they stated this (WHICH THEY DID). The greatest console ever created in my opinion was the SNES cause nintendo delivered with their promises back at the time.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL please, just because i said this doesnt mean that im going for CN4G(COMMUNIST NEWS 4 GAMERS)

[beoulve]

they sound more like XBOX King now.

[poindat]

Quality over quantity....

Kidding.

The PC and the 360 are easier to develop for, so of course more devs want to make games for them.

[Mausenheimmer]

Also, a lot of games are developed for the PC and 360 simultaneously since they both use DVDs like BioShock last year and Left 4 Dead this year.

[pp]

music to my EARS

[Atomic]

GameFaily again?
i thought this site has no credibility on N4G.

[Guitarded]

If ease of development where there main criteria, they would all make portable games. Similar arcitecture is why so many games get PC and 360 releases, not because they both have DVD. PC games still come on CDs too you know. EDIT: Meant for this to be a reply to 3 and 3.1

[jack who]

but the cell

[juuken]

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INSTANT FAIL.
Lol @ Gamedaily. Hmph, more like Faildaily.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Ah, yes we know Juuken. If it's not bowing down to the PS3 it is instant fail with you.

Even though this is a survey of game developer's and it sounds like it was an extensive survey at that. I would love to hear your reasoning why this fails?

[juuken]

No kidding, the 360 is easier to develop for! Who didn't know that?
This is not news.
Sorry. :/

[juuken]

...No thanks childish one.

[Cajun Chicken]

easier to do up your shoes than tying shoelaces.
But it doesn't make you look smart.

My metaphorical input there.

[Bangladesh]

You can climb a 10 story building with a rope, but it's easier to use the elevator. You get to the same place alot faster, and with alot less work.

[Cajun Chicken]

Good point, but its not exactly going to get you in the Guinness Book of World records for doing it, is it?
Using an elevator is probably cheaper than buying a 10 story rope, but will your admiring fans and the world press and everyone in the world applauding be there with respect whilst you're on the rooftop?

[Bangladesh]

Not when they find out that you(and 1000s more) are being forced to use the rope over and over again. Add that the people taking the elevator are being paid more than the poor saps climbing the rope.

[Cajun Chicken]

No, the elevator had the same guy as on the rope.
Whats more amazing for the reputation of a person, the fact he climbed a rope or simply used an elevator because it was cheaper and less dangerous?
Anyway, nobody can ignore a growing market, so this is bound to change next year once people have their heads around cell a little bit more now that the big guns have exercised it.

[sak500]

@cajun

What happens with all this hardwork of climbing up on the roof and expecting millions of people watching and applauding him, gets him 10 people who are hungry and thirsty and are just there to have free lunch?

[Cajun Chicken]

He gives them lunch for free without expecting anything back, because he cares for his fans and aims to get more exactly the same way, by respect and sharing his services.
This ones actually a pretty good unrelated metaphor if you look close enough.

[devilhunterx]

Interesting, wonder what games are they are making

[wicked]

Something to do with ropes & elevators I think, judging by the previous posts ;)

[Garrison]

Being that PC development and Xbox 360 are so alike that just doing a X360 game means you can make it out for PC as well if you wish.

[Jeremy Gerard]

PS3 is a expensive disaster to develope for, why would it be a leading platform for development?

[N00BZSUCKASS]

it's true. less than 1% of games are ps3 exclusives. lol.

[Sanzee]

Yes, I joined this website because of the anti-fanboy settings. Everywhere else has Sony fans literally waiting inside a forum's Xbox section, ready to argue with anyone who likes the 360. I could see them arguing if we went into the PS3 section and started hating, but the fact that they literally explore the 360 section, just to start some pointless arguements with anyone they meet? Now this does not apply to all Sony fans, I'm not making a generalization.

So thank you N4G, for creating a place irony-free. A place where the word "fanboy" doesn't appear in every single post.

And I'm grateful for my consoles success with the developers. Wow, I can actually say that here without getting attacked? Word.

[Bangladesh]

Not trying to be mean to you, but just wait. From what I've seen so far, N4G is a Sony fanboy/employee toilet.

[gamesR4fun]

Ive seen plenty of fanboyism on both sides 360 used to dominate now its the ps3.
Life goes on till the next console comes out...

[mirroredderorrim]

Yes. What about a CPU that has been maxed out already? or what about DVD9?

[psycho360]

I'm not giving disagree without comment.

Last gen dvd9 and cpu maxed out? SO for which one of your the games you've been developing for 360 did you find it a limiting factor? As far as i know and have been playing the AAA, AA, A titles and dint feel that my console was anything like last gen xbox or ps2 or even Wii? Hell, even multiplats have been consistently outdoing teh BD/CELL combination 99% of the time.

WHen i bought the 360 i was promised HD graphics, surround sound, solid online play. WEll, I get high def picture on my 50" HDTV amazing surround sound and visuals coupled with great online play so why shud i worry about dvd9 or 3 core cpu? I'm here to enjoy my time not sit and wait for the dream to become reality of 4d graphics and 1080p dual TV support. MS promised and they delivered, barring the hware reliability. BUt kudos to them to acknowledge and spend billion dollars to rectify it for their customers unlike the ps2 issues. I had to throw away and get another one cuz of lack of support by sony for its lame laser issue. Most of the 120million users are there cuz of multiple purchases and im' sure the unique owners will be way below 100mil.

[kingnick]

PC and 360 are the most cost effective platforms to develop on so it's really no surprise.

Developers care little about the most powerful hardware ect, all they care about is profit margins and so far this gen the 360 has clearly been the primary console bread winner for most western third parties.

Sony have been improving their SDK but I doubt they'll ever top MS' SDK, if anything Sony will probably use MS' SDK as a model and copy it similar to what they did with copying XBL when they were creating the PSN.

Sony are never going to be able to top MS when it comes to ease-of-use due to the PS3 architecture so they have to provide libraries to third parties that unlock the supposed power of the PS3 and entice exclusives/lead development because third parties aren't going to spend millions of dollars optimising a multiplatform game for the PS3.

At least this gen multiplatform developers aren't crippled by very weak hardware when compared to it's peers.

[kevin1112]

more people develope for the 360 because it was released the earliest, nothing to see here folks.

[Zerodin]

This is Sony Toiletsh!t central?

[Cajun Chicken]

No, I'm afraid you're mistaking this place for Xbox Live.

[mirroredderorrim]

Ofcourse. Disagree and not say why. A Common practice here.

[BattleAxe]

And you must be in La La Land, common practice there.

[mirroredderorrim]

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