Rainbow Six: Siege's Biggest Problem Is Its Player

Pixelgate.co.uk writes:

''Rainbow Six: Siege has been out for a few weeks now, and one of it’s main problems is became clear. While the lack of content and modes is a detracting factor, the current big issue is much more human. Sieges biggest problem is its players.''

[xReDeMpTiOnx]

Agree 100% a generation of gamers have been ruined due to call of duty where they needed everything handed and catered towards them.

I can understand not being good at a game in terms of gun skill and strats. But the lack of common sense on games is astounding.

The amount of times I have seen people just run straight into an objective without checking anything and even though they see partners die right in front of them they still run straight in.

[PixelGateUk]

It's not the players are bad, it's more they just play it in a selfish way that makes less enjoyable for others. Trolling is trolling, not much that can truly be said on it

[jackwei22]

I saw that a few times in Vegas in terrorist hunt as it is funny seeing them trying to be the hero and rush in get wasted then blame you.

[WellyUK]

It's not just CoD that has done that... You people make it out as if CoD didn't used to be amazing. Battlefield is extremely casual now as well. It's money that talks so they aim it at the casual audience, cod sadly fell into that place where it get blames for everything wrong with the industry even though it's not the only game that is extremely casual. But then no one has come along with a game that stands out against CoD especially on consoles, Tactical/slow paced fps games seem to be just a PC thing now a days.

I do agree though that some people now a days are beyond stupid online, sadly I get dumped with them 90% of the time i play online and have to carry them.

[xReDeMpTiOnx]

While I agree with you I still have to blame cod because battlefield and killzone used to be both a lot more hardcore until call of duty flooded the market then like you said money and the casual
Crowd came into play and both of the games I mentioned changed for the worse.

[PixelGateUk]

I'm hardly gonig to write a essay on the origins of modern multi;player fps in a comment section to be fiar. CoD is the easiest, and most well known, reference point.

[ThunderPulse]

That's why I always play with friends.

[ThunderPulse]

@Dr No Response.....

[gangsta_red]

This in my opinion is why Evolve failed.

It's a team focused game and unfortunately there isn't a lot of gamers with this frame of mind. Like the article says, everyone just wants to run off, do their own thing and shoot first.

[Manio31]

It's a really great game, sadly some of the players do ruin the experience.

[Utalkin2me]

Sadly players ruin the experience in all online games. Seems people throw common sense out the window, and could care less about helping the team.

[SweatyFlorida]

Well honestly consoles lacked a CS:Go type of game, where your coordinating and talking amongst the team and such and planning to win(at least that's how I think it goes down). Same with moba's.

Nowadays most console shooters are fairly solo in terms of teamwork, you go after objectives with your own mindset rather then talking with the team to win the game. Part of the reason I stay in TDM in CBO3 as I too have that lonewolf mentally, which is why I opted out of Siege as I knew exactly what kind of game it was going to be. Too bad atm most people are playing dumb, I'm sure after a month it'll retain the hardcore people who know how to play the game right and weed out the casuals.

[kaizokuspy]

@sweatyflorida, consoles had CS:GO, it had their share of trolls too. It has nothing to do with gamers today, but the realization that a lot of people that buy and play games only play them about a few hours a week. They may not care so much about teamwork as opposed to sitting in a separate chat and having a conversation with a bud while the game becomes secondary. It's just a new behavioral trend we've gotten with all of our technology breakthroughs. Best thing to do? Join a gaming community, only play with friends, and have fun.

[Perjoss]

This is why some multiplayer games would be better off with a single player mode, even if its just tacked on. If you're having a bad night maybe you're not doing so well or you're just unlucky and get bad team mates over and over, at least you have the option to go beat up on some AI for a while.

[purebennyc]

I'm a big fan of Rainbow Six Siege. There is a bit of a learning curve involved since it is a much more strategic FPS but once players overcome that, there is a fantastic game to be experienced.

[mep69]

i dislike how massive the guns look. and how it just feels like cod with a tiny bit of tactics involved.

[BlackTar187]

what do you mean feels like COD? As in it's FPS? Other then that i see no correlation. No respawn all tactics no kill streaks. No over powered everyone has grenades and explosives.

I just don't see how COD and this are the same in any way other then FPS.

[purebennyc]

Feels like COD? Are you sure you didn't put the wrong disc in and that you weren't just actually playing COD? Rainbow Six Siege is completely different to COD.

[theFAYEsorceress]

umm... you can't play this game anywhere near the same as cod. not sure which game you're playing, but other than being a fps, the two games aren't really alike in any other way. doesn't feel like a cod game at all. might not be classic r6, but it's certainly not cod.

[Swiggins]

And the award for person who has obviously not played the game goes to.

[mep69]

oh look salty peasants

[Psychotica]

This is exactly why I wish I could just play with bots on my team vs a team of bots. I don't care if they are stupid, at least they make an attempt to play the game by the rules.

[svoulis]

I am enjoying the hell out of this game, and I was on the fence about it. Finally caved in and I love it, what I don't love is my team. I swear they have no sense of awareness and often run into my shots because apparently....they don't realize there is FF, and they often get mad at me for shooting them in the back.

Or the fact that they rush in..hoping that maybe this time it'll be like cod and we lose...

Do not play this game without friends who understand what Tactical means..Seriously if you play in a random lobby there will be at least one moron who doesn't understand why they even got the game.

[user9950279]

I disagree big time. I'm on X1 (cant imagine its much different elsewhere). Seems like every game I play people are generally doing exactly what they should be. Moving in together, setting up logical defensive positions, generally playing properly. Quite impressive actually. When at least 1 person has a mic and can call a team leader is even better. I've only had one match where I've dealt with a teamkiller, and a couple where one of the defensive players was wandering outside the intended defensive position, but otherwise the game is played with surprising adherence to the developers intentions for it.

cant expect everyone to play perfectly, and occasionally someone will step in front of my shotgun blast and eat a facefull of lead... but these things happen.

I love this game.

[cooksauce]

I'd be interested in finding out if this is a problem mainly on consoles, or if PC players deal with this shit as well

[PixelGateUk]

I only play multiplayer shooters on PC, have done for the last few years. This post is based purely on PC experiences

[cooksauce]

That sucks, I was kind of hopping I could use this as an excuse to build a rig ;)

[PixelGateUk]

Well there's plenty of other reasons! bar the much nice looks ;) There's a game called Insurgency which is similar in tone to Rainbow Six, just set in modern military settings.

[reversial]

I can confirm that Insurgency is a killer game.

[xReDeMpTiOnx]

I remember the good ol days when shooters took skill and actual thought process..... Ohhhh socom why must you be dead..... The game that started mlg and competitive gaming on consoles as we know it.

Rainbowsix while lacking content is one of the most fun games I have played in awhile due to the tactical thinking and actual skill needed to be good at the game. (Though hit detection does need some work)

[PixelGateUk]

It's the hit detection on heads that annoys me. Headhsots feels utterly random at times, mostly on the more bulky characters (Rook, the Russian dude Takhan?')

[TeamLeaptrade]

I'm glad I didn't bother picking this game up then. Was so looking forward to it, but I know if I get into a lobby with any random people, it'll be much like this. Of course I could get my friends to join, but I doubt they all would want to pick this game up.

[Revvin]

We need more games like Siege to break away from the Call of Duty style lone wolf get rewarded for racking up kills rinse and repeat games. I had a game earlier where I didn't score a single kill yet I moved forward with the team, taking down barricades and finally covering the bomb defuser to win the game and came away happy with the result. I'm fed up of guys who even when its a team based objective game type in Call of Duty will play lone wolf or camp for kills so they can use up their kill streaks and get more kills just to top the table.

[patsrule316]

Yeah. I am not as good as many others in terms of marksmanship, so I am rarely high on the kills list, but this game actually does reward you for doing actions other than just killing. I am rarely at the last position when matches are done, even though I may have less kills. I take out cameras (or use the cameras, use my drone to scout or take out drones, place or destroy barbed wire, use my gadgets, etc. I get kills here and there too, but all the other stuff moves me up the list and helps me get more renown. I always try to help my team, even if I am not the best shooter.

[quenomamen]

No the GD lag is the biggest problem with this game then the players. Hey Ubisoft you cheap sonsbitches, when you put out a tactical game that hinges on teamwork and precision where matches are constantly decided by whom shot first not by who has the better connection then hows about dropping a couple bucks on some dedicated effin servers ?

[Twistedrecoil]

Hi all, new to n4g here! Anyways, totally agree with alot of people's comments aswell as the official post on this topic. People do intend to try playing aggressive most of the time attacking or defending, missing or ignoring the major mechanics that this game has to offer, thats why I play with a full squad all the time, especially when it comes to rank matchmaking, casual matchmaking im not so bothered about. Team work involving communications I have always found to be so much fun. I played the beta for R6S for pc and decided to buy for ps4, as the community is bigger for consoles then it is for pc and we all know pc is more vulnerable to being hacked so thats why I went for ps4, the one major thing that I can not grasp is people that decided to buy a game based on team work and dont have a mic, another reason for playing with a squad of friends.