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Why Sony Thinks PS4 Is a Massive Success

"Back in August, PlayStation boss Shuhei Yoshida said Sony was mystified by the smashing success of the PlayStation 4. At the time, he said the system's overwhelming popularity "defied the conventional thinking," which the executive said could in fact even be a problem. To understand where a platform is going, you need to know how it got there, he argued."By Eddie Makuch

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Abracadabra3080d ago

Well... 30 million in two years!
Yep, I think everybody would consider the PS4 a success.

DARKKENT3080d ago

Sales wise it's a monster facts speak for themselves

Captain_TomAN943079d ago

Sales, Profit, Software, performance - I never seen a more clear cut victory for a company.

t-hall7853079d ago (Edited 3079d ago )

Idk man what are the attach rates? I mean yeah they probably make 25 to 50 buck per console sold but the key is how much software can you sell. Most games sell better on playstation but not nearly by as much for a console that is outselling it's competition pretty much 2 to 1. I think Microsoft is in a good space. I just bought a ps4 on black friday it's a good system. but i can't see myself buying nearly as many games on it as my x1. we all have our own preferences so i know this goes both ways. But when i look at game sales, microsoft seems to be doing just as good as the comp when it comes to attach rates.

Letthewookiewin3080d ago

Ya they need to change the headline from "Thinks" to "Knows".

Officialxandr3080d ago

It's a success because I love mine! xD

LordMaim3079d ago

3 people think you're lying. SMH.

UltraNova3080d ago

"We see numbers of people coming back to console," he said [Yoshida]. "Many people [who own a PS4] didn't used to have any last-gen console, even Nintendo Wii. Those people are coming back."

That ^^^ says a lot about ps4's appeal.

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kenwonobi3079d ago

Well warcloud. If the software sales don't match for the leading software seller in the entire market that's not such a bad thing for Sony in particular but all platforms as a whole. Since PS4 outsel ls all other consoles in software combined.

Realms3079d ago (Edited 3079d ago )

@WarCloud

Software sales are down across the board yet the ps4 still manages to sell more software sales than the WiiU and X1 combined. LOL

UltraNova3079d ago

Warcloud,

As the two guys above already showed, you done f***** it up!

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AizenSosuke3080d ago

PS4 is a successful beast just like Godzilla

milohighclub3080d ago

The console is a success just a shame that Sony have forgotten what it's like to be in second place.

Sunny_D3080d ago

But they remember what's it like to be in 1st. At least 3 times.

milohighclub3079d ago (Edited 3079d ago )

maybe but fans are last this time around... remember last gen? all the sick games, free online and psplus that was actually worth the money. ms need to take the lead so we get a sick service again. i mean i recently had to pay £50 to play a certain beta. which i can't even play because my internet isn't up to par(even though every other game plays fine)not to mention trying to charge £11/12 to play gta:sa upscaled...

#FORTHEPLAYERS... what happened to this?
js they're taking the piss out of us this gen.

rainslacker3079d ago

As a Sony fan, I would appreciate if you didn't speak for me and assume that I am disappointed in the services and products that Sony has delivered to me this gen. As an individual I am capable of determining that for myself, and while Sony hasn't been perfect this gen(or any other really), I can say that I have gotten my moneys worth out of the system, the games, and PS+.

milohighclub3077d ago

Sorry you must have misread my comment. Did I speak for you? I was simply making an observation of something I have noticed since Sony took first place. Not once did I say that every body or any body feels like this. I was simply pointing out how I feel.

Tbh I don't know how people can feel another way. I've owned every Sony console and will continue support them just wish they wouldnt stop offering the great support and services they did last gen, just because they're in first place.

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miyamoto3080d ago (Edited 3080d ago )

The success Shuhei is talking about is how PS4 drew in non-console gamers from casual mobile gaming to home video gaming.
Gamers who own a PS4 but not the PS3, 360 nor the Wii.

This is just as I have said before because that is the only logical source of gamers.
And these kids have actual gaming experience on mobile compared to the crowd the Wii attracted before.

These casual gamers wants a deeper gaming experience on PS4.
The PS4's popularity is perfectly on the right place at the right time.

For me that is a greater responsibility than winning the console wars - expanding the video game market for keeps.

PS4 has another responsibility to do aside from expanding the console gaming sector & that is to revive console gaming in JAPAN.
This is why PS4 has signed a deal with Square Enix, Capcom, Bandai Namco, etc. to make tons of exclusive games for PS4 to accomplish this goal.

For now PS4 is the only capable platform to do it because the gaming public trust it's capabilities.

Gambatte PS4! You can do it!

Syanara173079d ago

@t-hall

I am in a similar yet opposite boat as you.

I had a PS4 and last year during black Friday bought an Xbox One. I love the console (especially with the NXOE) but I have trouble seeing myeslf buying a lot of games for it. I realized that I am trying to buy single player games like fallout or Tomb raider on Xbox One because all my friends are on PS4.

In any case I agree PS4 might be a hardware success but one console selling more than the other does not mean that the other is automatically doing poorly.

Tsar4ever013079d ago (Edited 3079d ago )

Let's ALL THANK MARK CERNY, for moving the Sony platform away from exotic proprietary hardware, to adopting the standardized universal gaming programming language of X86 architecture.

skratchy3079d ago

It's ahead of the PS2 so far, and we all know that went on to sell over 200 million. Things can change, but there are some huge titles coming out in 2016. It'll take a lot of fuck ups.

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PhoenixUp3080d ago

PS4 is Sony's fastest selling system, and the second fastest selling console of all time.

What else would you call it

Sharingan_no_Kakashi3080d ago

Sales is only one contributing factor for success. Features and games are the other. It does have a lot of cool features and more to come I'm sure so I'm not worried about that.

Games are what I'm worried about, and that's not necessarily Sony's problem alone. But unless AAA game development steps its game up I'm not calling either console a true success. So many screw ups, Ubisoft especially. And Sony has a had more than a few disappointing big name releases too. Next year will determine if this gen is the gen we've all been waiting for.

S2Killinit3080d ago (Edited 3080d ago )

Im quite happy with the games already. They have more than others. And they have a good focus on variety. No matter what you are into there is something for you.

As to dissapointments, i think they were only dissapointments on the web. And we all know how fickle the mob on the web is. They eat up what they are told. Whoever happens to be paying more of the journalist's bills at the time decides which games were "dissapointments"

frostypants3080d ago

This has been an amazing year for games...

kenwonobi3079d ago

I find most times that only Xbox owners are displeased with Sony games. While actually PS4 owners seem to have too many to play. Maybe it's just they don't know what they are talking about?

rainslacker3079d ago

There have been some duds, but overall, I have played a lot of great games these past two years.

It's still not up to par with the PS2 gen yet, but the excitement seems like it's surpassed that gen, and we're only two years in to the gen.

Best is yet to come, and I can assure you, we still don't even know half the games which will be releasing by this time next year.

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Sharingan_no_Kakashi3079d ago

It's been a great year for indies anyway.

And before I continue I'd like to say that I'm a proud playstation gamer. I've owned every single playstation console. I've never owned an Xbox and don't intend to. But being a playstation fan doesn't disqualify me from being critical of Sony. Otherwise, they'd have no reason to improve.

The Crew, Driveclub, The Order, Evolve, Ultra Street Fighter IV, Star Wars Battlefront, Tony Hawks Pro Skater 5. These are just a few games that promised big and under delivered, or were completely broken at launch, and this is just 2015. Lets not talk about last year. Of course we've had the Witcher, Batman and the like but AAA games need to step up.

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mochachino3080d ago

It is, now maybe they can release a few more non-indie PS Plus games to celebrate.

Dyldog693080d ago

Why would people disagree? What a bunch of servants

Letthewookiewin3080d ago (Edited 3080d ago )

Ya I was really expecting them to have some bigger games up for December. I was a little disappointed. But it is what it is.

Malice-Flare3080d ago

games like those take time. are you saying the games they showed aren't potentially good games? how elitist...

xxShadow-Shockxx3080d ago

I feel like 2016, we will see bigger games on the instant game collection

kenwonobi3079d ago

I think you'll stop using this argument this year. It's literally last year gonna be used for next few months. Then the Xbox honeymoon of using this argument is done.

mochachino3079d ago (Edited 3079d ago )

I have a ps4 not xone.

Had ps3 too, every month plus released AAAs. Its about time they started with PS4 but I guess the majority of people don't want better games.

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RealTrueGamer3080d ago

This article is pointless. Sony thinks its a massive success BECAUSE IT IS.
There, I just saved you a ton of pointless reading.

Griever3080d ago

I read the article and I think it gave a reason. The PS4 is easy to develop for so many indie developers and major developers are supporting it. As a result, there are wide range of games belonging to various genres available on the system that appeal to one or another. This is causing people to buy the system including those who did not own a console last gen because they will find something that appeals to them.

I think Indies really help to diversify the gaming library because mainstream developers mostly limit themselves to tried and tested franchises and genres. The diversity pulls in most number of people.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers19d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken18d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g19d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing19d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H919d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola19d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66919d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle19d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg19d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos19d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola19d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies40d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken39d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga39d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken39d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6439d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long39d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197239d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic39d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12539d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91339d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer39d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91339d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit39d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher40d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6939d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit39d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher39d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken39d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197239d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic39d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2339d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218339d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder39d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts39d ago

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