Fallout 4 Vs. Bloodborne | 2015 GOTY Showdown

Next in the 2015 GOTY chats will be two games that take different, slanted roads to the RPG promised land: Bloodborne and Fallout 4.

[DarkOcelet]

Bloodborne all the way!

[lipton101]

Egh. Blood borne lost me in the snake forest. I gave up after getting lost repeatedly

[DarkOcelet]

You could have simply opened a youtube walkthrough of that part.

[lipton101]

I did after taking a break for about 2 weeks or so and once I picked it back up I just didn't have the patience for it anymore. I got killed once more with an extravagant amount of blood on me and just said "F--k it."

In my situation, (career, wife, child, home) I have like 3 hours a night to game, late night I might add (after they go to bed), and when I spend 1.5 of these 3 precious hours in vain only to start from the beginning, there's a great chance I'm going to say "F--k it." And never play it again. Bloodborne is great, I'll give you that, but it's really insulting to anyone with any sense of time management or for anyone who can't sit down care free for multiple hours to game. Wish I was 16 again... Miss those days

[oldenjon]

bloodborne is not an open world game. how did you get lost? you can always follow a wall if that ever happens

[Perjoss]

Bloodborne is a devious game, it lets you believe that you are giving up, but in fact, Bloodborne gave up on you. Unbreakable will is a must.

[StrawberryDiesel420]

Haha all you had to do was follow the flaming torches, they lead you directly to the boss if you didn't want to explore. Anyhow, I love Bloodborne. It's absolutely amazing and unique, though I can totally understand someone absolutely hating it. I'm currently trying to make my way through the DLC on NG+++ and it's insanely difficult, borderline unbeatable without help. And I can see many others not making it past Vicar Amelia on their first playthrough as it's a very difficult and time consuming game with little progress to be made, sometimes for hours. It's just not for everyone like Fallout 4 or The Witcher 3 is. Almost anyone can beat those games, not with Bloodborne though, it takes true skill and dedication. You have to really want it. Very rewarding once everything clicks.

[HellzAssassin]

Once you reach the shortcut, just follow the lanterns/torches. Pretty straight forward from there.

*edit* didn't realize Strawberry just said the same thing.

[lipton101]

Crazy thing is, I enjoyed the hell out of it. My thing is that I followed the torches, killed everything in my path, amassed a ton of blood only to lose it all. Then I was unable to find it as it wasn't where I died. Up until that point I had the patience of a saint. I might ask it back from my brother to finish eventually, I still have too many games on my backlog to dive back in though

[SpinalRemains138]

Drop some coins next time, brother.

[RealTrueGamer]

I agree, while both games are great, Bloodborne is the better game here; however both are nothing compared to Witcher 3. Now THAT is GOTY, hands down.

We were really lucky this year as RPG fans.

[PowerPlayaaa]

Eazyyyy pick. BLOODBORNE

[2paclives]

Bloodborne

[buddymagoo]

Bloodborne

[DanteVFenris666]

Everyone overhyped bloodborne is it because it's exclusive to Sony? I enjoyed the game but it's no game of the year. It's gushing with flaws. One of them being too similiar to demon/dark souls. It didn't really do much different. The few things they did different I eventually got bored of. The souls games are getting really tiring. The 5th entree is already announced for heavens sake. The enemies are the exact same as the first one in terms of ai. The visuals are if the same style just a goth paint. Long loading screens. No story, not much custumization. The combat and atmosphere are the only two things that bloodborne does extremley well.

Blood borne is a great game. But it's not this jewl of perfection that so many people on this site seem to think.

[DarkOcelet]

"One of them being too similiar to demon/dark souls"

What? And Fallout 4 isn't similar to Fallout 3? :]

[xPhearR3dx]

Fallout 4 is a sequel to Fallout 3. Kinda makes sense it's similar right? Bloodborne is a new IP that just copy and pasted the souls series formula. While that's great because I love the souls series, they could have done so much more with a new IP instead of only adding a few changes.

[DanteVFenris666]

It is similar in terms of game play but the difference being they changed up far more than the souls games ever do. Plus there's a story. Without the story is the souls games it kinda feels like all in doing is killing monsters, again and again, and again without any perpose. Fun in the first instalment but now it's the 4th. And in those 4 installments there's been what 2 fallouts maybe less?

Now I'm not saying ones better than the other that's preferences. It's obvious where my preference lies but to say bloodborne doesn't have majour flaws is bias to rather Sony or the souls series.

Fallout 4 added: vertical design, less loading screens(than previous), elevators, power armour mechanic, settlements, stream lined perk system, added way more side quests than past fallouts, added a far better loot system, changed up how they did armour(1 base, 5 pieces that overlap), improved custumization in weapons and armour. Partners where far more compelling.

Bloodborne added: new atmosphere, transforming weapons, switched gameplay a tad to be more fast passed. All changes I beleive where for the better. It just got boring quickly sense I had already played my share of the souls games.

[Master-H]

That's like your opinion, man.

[lipton101]

Bloodborne is an insult to anyone with a sense of time management. It's like it was made for those who can absolutely commit blocks of hours to this game, responsibilities be damned. No true pause button and the ridiculously frustrating save / "fast travel" system have turned me off forever. I have a child and wife and career. My time is limited. I won't waste it on a game that has no respect for the player.

[sullynathan]

lol

[thricetold]

And yet it is still miles better than fo4

[Clumpy]

It respects the gamer IF ANYTHING. Always being pointed in the right direction and also having the story fed to you by a spoon is what's truly disrespectfull (It's like the developers are begging you to beat the game) while in bloodborne, they make you earn it. They trust you, and have complete faith in you finding your way to approach, and eventually beat the game. The specters are there to warn you of what's ahead, and to let you know that everyone's going trough the same challenge as you, while the messages are there for players to help each other. The only insult here is the players with a spoiled and a dumbed-down mindset, not every game is gonna hold your hand. And just to let you know, I beat it in around 15 hours, which isn't unusual. However, I'm glad to hear that your family and career is more important to you. (Though it would be pretty weird if it wasn't).

[TWB]

No pause and no saving play into that "use your common sense" category that SoulsBorne games try to include in their games.

While they arent realistic games, its a nice inclusion.

You cant just pause in the middle of a fight to switch gear, think your tactics or whatever, you finish it.

You dont whack at general direction of friendly NPCs, they will attack back and die completely (until next NG cycle) or stay hostile.

You come back to where you leave your adventure. Be it infront of a boss gate or somewhere off path, no time travel for you (except you can kind of abuse save backups).

You should avoid dying since it has consequences (and story wise they always try to have a reason why you respawn)

etc, etc..

And as Clumpy said, these games really respect the intelligence of their players.

[redknight80]

I see three comments on here from you..two that are saying how this game is an insult to players and the other comment "Black Ops 3!!"....piss off, you troll.

[Sunny_D]

Did you buy the game not knowing what kind of game it was meant to be from the beginning? That is something that From Software games have been known for since Demon Souls...

[StrawberryDiesel420]

I too have a child, wife and career and managed to NG+++ Bloodborne by playing it on the weekends for a few hours here and there. Not to mention, if I was every stuck, I could always summon someone who was more than willing to help. Blooborne has the best online community hands down. And the Souls games in general. These games are highly skill based, maybe they just aren't for you, no need to bash them.

[SpinalRemains138]

Children are no excuse. The game defeated you.

The truth is that a single play through can be done easily with help. Ring a bell. Your kids will let you.

GOTY

[sullynathan]

Stating that a game is too similar to another is not a flaw you will have to state why said similarity somehow clashes with what this game attempts to be which you have failed to do.

There is a story in Bloodborne.
There is customization in Bloodborne.

Well bloodborne is an action heavy dungeon crawling game. You know that these games are combat and atmosphere heavy and you just said that it does both well. Seems like it's a great game.

[TWB]

This is an unpopular opinion but Im going to say it anyways.

While Bloodborne has a deep story, it does extremely poor job of making its existence known and telling to player.

I get that Souls games honor themselves with subtle story telling and hidden lore, but whats wrong with telling the basics? Demons Souls and Dark Souls both do a pretty good job at this and direct the player around with dialog.

Bloodborne gives little to no direction at times and doesnt necessarily give you a satisfying mid or ending because you know nothing about most bosses unless you read up on them.

When Nito, Seath and "The Last Boss" came up, I knew what was going on and even in the cases of other bosses (Gargoyles, Queelag, Bed of Chaos, Four Kings) I knew what I was there for if I talked to few very obviously placed NPC's.

I didnt know why I killed a weird empty headed arcanoid, fleshy freakshow or mergo/s wet nurse. I didnt know how go progress to the forest because they had decided to put the hint into some shining non-obvious message spot (with no messengers). Neither did I know the motivations of the last boss or the last last boss.

Giving some story to the players, gets them more hooked and that way more motivated to dig up lore and information about the game and bosses you know very little about.

Essentially what this guy critiques about DaS2's story and praises in Dark Souls: https://youtu.be/UScsme8did...

I kept the comment somewhat spoiler free.

[the_hitman3000]

Well I always thought From Software had some dedicated fans so maybe its hype isn't all from the Sony Camp. Just saying not trying to start anything but their could be more then one reason then just being exclusive to Sony.

[ger2396]

Bloodborne for me. By your description, I'm wondering if you even played it.

[Vlaitor]

Theres a lot of reasons why I would choose BloodBorne over Fallout 4 but the most obvious one is the lack of choices, dialogs and interesting quest that makes Fallout 4 more a shooter than an RPG. I mean, it's okay, it plays just fine but I never really had any use of anything except my gun.
Go there, kill stuff, repeat. The game is really easy as well. While blood borne, you have to respect every enemy you encounter. It's just an opinion of course and my review of Fallout 4 states tha the game is indeed awesome. Lasting appeal and variety thou? Not so much.

[sullynathan]

Bloodborne. It was even a better rpg than Fallout 4

[Jerredh]

Fallout 4 is amazing because theres not a whole lot like it. Bloodborne was great. But as one comment points out Souls games come out every other year. But too many fanatics will swing away bloodborne.

[sullynathan]

There is a lot like Fallout 4.
There's Far Cry 3 & 4, Borderlands, Call of Duty and more.

[madmonkey01]

there are reams of games like fallout 4,

[Elwenil]

@ Sullynathan,

You obviously have not played Fallout 4.

[sullynathan]

@Elwenil I have but you people somehow refuse to call a shooter, a shooter just because it has an inventory, a perk system, a dialogue wheel or because it's predecessors were rpgs.

[Elwenil]

@ Sullynathan,

Other than the location and backstory, Fallout 4 is pretty much identical to Skyrim if you take away the guns. But I guess since it has guns it's automatically a shooter. Nevermind how many RPGs there are out there that have guns. Or maybe because it's 3D and has guns? So games like GTA are nothing but shooter now too? How many shooters allow you to build and create communities in them? How many shooters let you gain and lose favor with different factions and even NPCs based on your actions? It may not be YOUR type of RPG, but by definition, it is an RPG.

[Chivas11]

What about Halo 5?

[Jerredh]

Great game, i love it. Not game of the year though

[sullynathan]

lol

[madmonkey01]

what about it?

[Ocsta]

Fallout. Duh.

[lipton101]

Black ops 3!!!!

[stonecold3]

bloodborne

[guyman]

Bloodborne for me. I got tired of fallout just ten hours in.

[Paytaa]

The Witcher

[REDDURT]

Bloodborne if its between the two. I think it was just son unexpected to be so good. Although I would concede to the witcher

[Eiyuuou]

Bloodborne, hands down. (for me that is)

[il-JumperMT]

Fallout 4 shouldn't even be nominated.

[esmittystud101]

I've had this discussion alot before and I always go with my Game of the Year Bloodborne. But to be perfectly fair, they may both be RPGS, but they are two totally different games. Fallout 4 is more like The Witcher 3 if you ask me. FO4 and TW3 should duel it out, than the winner of that vs Bloodborne, LOL.

I'm more of combat system type player and Bloodborne is the combat system King for me right now. Its the best I've ever seen on any game on any system. The other reason why I just prefer Bloodborne is because of its style. The map is one of a kind, From Software level design is miles ahead of other developers in detail. No map, no objective list, you make a decision you live with it, no going back, no loading previous saves. You have to figure things out on your own. I had never played a game like this. It was my first of soon to be many From Software games.

[LoveSpuds]

Really well put together arguement fella and it sums up my feelings too. Together with Ori I would say its as close to perfection a game has got in 2015......except for those damn flea like monsters at Cainhurst Castle, man I hated those things :)

[esmittystud101]

I had trouble with them too.

[Perjoss]

Fallout 4 is an excellent game, but it lacks the polish and overall masterpiece 'this is not even a videogame, its some next level experience' feeling you get from Bloodborne!

[Fro_xoxo]

I'd go with Bloodborne, that's probably 'cause I'm not crazy about RPGS. Bloodborne lets me get straight into the action. . just a preference..