Among them are the potential that lies within their HoloLens technology
No one wants to touch it. Everyone else is going for something greater and better.
Lmao I was thinking this when coming into the topic. Honestly I think the tech is cool but as its own thing separate from video games.
Pretty much, I don't see myself gaming with it... could be useful in other areas though. VR is the thing I want to game with, especially immersive games like Elder Scrolls or Fallout.
I can see HoloLens one day merging AR and VR into one device simply by completely covering the field of view with AR. Once we get the device small enough, HoloLens can go with you to everywhere you go. It can replace your mobile phone and be much more convenient too especially with Cortana! The next 10-years in computing is going to be very exciting.
Donthate has a point, the combination would be spectacular. Hololens is too expensive in its current form, but throw that and VR together? Done, bought, first day. That said, any other VR companies could do that with the use of 3 cameras or 2 lighthouses, something multiple companies have products made for. Wouldn't be a patent breach and is just software that that point. Hopefully developers figure it out first and keep it open to everyone ;)
i'd say the same thing applies to VR
The Hololens is simply augmented reality attached to your face. Almost every console from PS3 to 3DS has tried to implement a gaming experience into augmented reality and failed. If Nintendo, of all people, could not succeed, Microsoft likely won't either.
MS gotta lie to pump sales. dont see anyone but diehard x1's gamers buying this.
@nX You don't see yourself gaming with it because you can't judging by all your anti Xbox One MS comment history.
NX you just gave a woody, saying Fallout and Elder scolls with VR OMG
I can't believe people are still betting on VR when it's failed miserably over 20 years ago.
The fact that for a single person, or even someone that is not single, the ability to not having to or wanting to upgrade your t.v every couple of years this is a winner right there. 100 inch t.v screen on any wall you like - priceless. No cables no drilling no brackets - nothing. hololens could indeed have an incredible future.
Hololens will excel in the fact that it will do more than gaming. When putting it up against Vr for gaming purposes it falls short. When broadening it's use to every day life applications then you can easily see the potential for this thing. I'm more excited for the non-gaming things I'll be able to do. Gaming on this will be pretty casual so when it comes to that aspect of it I'm not so thrilled
Hololens will be awesome for stuff outside of gaming. I mean it's awesome tech and hopefully someday i'll find something can personally use it for.
I don't think gaming on HoloLens will necessarily be casual, because it depends on what you are making and if you can receive the inputs of a controller. Overall it is just too soon to tell, but it is possible that HoloLens in the future will be both an AR and VR device when the field of view can be completely covered with AR.
Gaming is, and has been for quite some time, about immersion. Immersion IS about taking you out of reality and putting you in the game world. Immersion IS NOT taking the game world out of the TV and putting it on your coffee table. Microsoft isn't pushing Hololens as a gaming device because even they know its applications in that field are limited at best. In the commerical and industrial worlds, it can be a game changer though.
@dboy Or the opposite because it will not have much to do with gaming. Like Kinect had many applications outside of gaming, and ultimately failed to do anything as a result.
IT reminds me of Google Glass in the ways it could be effective
Indie games will fly to this device, how many indie games are on pc's tablet's and mobile phones, but I too am looking forward to the non-gaming options, movies for one.
Why couldn't Hololens also be VR? All it would take is an extra peice of plastic to block out the environment around you.
What if Sony did this just asking
n4g would do a 180. lol
I still wouldnt want to play a game where the level was my living room, and the whole game was as big as my house, even if Sony did it.
It probably would not do well, just like the move controllers and kinect.
They already kinda did with Vita. The main difference being Vita doesn't strap to your face. But otherwise it got quite a few uses in the AR world.
It still wouldn't really be a gaming peripherals, so nothing would change for me, I think the tech is really cool, but I'd have no use for it, I'm sure companies will though, and others. Saying that I also don't really care for VR either, besides that multiplayer Mech game, non have really interested me.
Speak for your self fanboy. I would react the same way but the way you fanboys act like everything is against you and then act innocent is stupid and obvious, same goes for sony fanboys. These topics have an opinion aspect , not every sony fan will act the same. I didn't like how sony supported the vita and i did talk against sony in the same year they released the vita and i got tons of disagrees, those that saw reality agreed with me but fanboys really proved themselfs at that point now the ones that disagreed are doing what i did. Many people who like sony products do the same as me. I don't care about sony , i care about what i will get. I am still doubting VR which is focused on games let alone something that is not related to games. All i care about is a better but reasonable experience for gaming. VR sounds promising yet needs to prove it self before i support it or claim anything. As for AR , i am sure a billion% that if anyone bought it for gaming will be disappointed just like what happened to kinect. This is not a feature , this is an expensive device, gaming so far use it as an extra feature because it's hard to come up with something creative and practical in the same time.
What do you mean by greater and better? There's no other tech out there that's producing holographic images through nothing but glass. So what's competing with it?
No one wants to touch it? The top 3 companies in the world. 1.Apple 2.Microsoft 3.Google All are working on AR.
I'm going to get one of them when the price drops after they're all released, definitely won't be buying Apple, but AR could change business, laptops and and education if they mass market and produce it to them. This thing + AutoCAD O_O
Sony fans on N4G trying to twist reality in their favor is sad.
Honestly... HoloLens is looking more interesting then VR.
Well when you can combine both, its pretty darn Awesome http://www.gizmag.com/sulon...
I think everyone agrees that it is very impressive technology (much like Kinect), really future is now stuff (much like Kinect), with many implications to real world industry, but not really useful for gaming (much like Kinect).
Kinect never got a chance to be explored in gaming. For instance, Xbox Fitness gamified fitness at home and is a huge leap forward. Other games that have come that are great include Fantasia, Dance Central, Fruit Ninja Kinect, D4 and so on. There is still a lot of potential there, but the naysayers killed Kinect!
Naysayers? If the product was good then the haters wouldnt really have a leg to stand on. Two iterations of Kinect and the best part of a decade since it came out and still no one has proved how it came better real core gaming experiences in any meaningful way. Thats not naysayers, thats just reality. Devs had plenty of time to produce a real game on it, it never happened. All they showed is that its good for dance games or punching balls away, not real games that real gamers want to play. You cant blame naysayers for that and its a long way from the bold promises of changing gaming that MS went on and on about. Im yet to be convinced Hololens can be used well in gaming. Like I said its impressive tech with possibly a million uses. It could very well change society the way smart phones have. But gaming? Some one tell me how, please. I dont want a level that is my house. It sounds very limiting. Even the on stage demo of that guy shooting aliens looked cool, but really the way he was ducking slowly away from even slower fire and plodding around the stage, after that initial shock value of an alien in your living room wears off, will that sort of simple gameplay be enough for todays MP centric twitch shooters gamers? I think VR definitely has a lot to add to gaming as it can immerse you right in the game and block out the world. I dont think AR with its bringing the game into the world approach has much to offer gaming. Buy hey, if a game comes out that proves me wrong I will happily admit it and buy one.
Kinect will really shine once vr takes off. Think about it, the real world gets blocked off and now you are inside the gameworld. The gamepad/keyboard and mouse will become useless. Kinect works in vr due to body movement. So be able to move in a gameworld using your body will truly change the way we play games. I can't wait till vr reaches sword art online status
Cool technology, but I don't think gamer's want something that equates to something like a secondary experience, so far I have not seen any real control type game play done with it. It's just a more elaborate secondary screen type of thing, not literally but similar in what it can offer to games. The price for it will probably be more than most would want to pay for that experience. It's more suited to educational purposes.
RTS, basically able to have full view of the map and order troops to go forward. Be able to spot the enemy from miles away. Have a virtual chat with your rival or the nation leaders you want to conquer. It could also bring the star wars: a new hope chess game to life. I do want to emphasize that its real strength comes outside of gaming.
Speak for yourself. I'm going Hololens, day one my friend.
Care to elaborate? Comparing VR tech to Hololens is like comparing a calculator to a PC.
Wrong wrong, wrong, and wrong. @Captain wormy Good luck with greater and better Firstly this technology is not for gaming, it was not created for gaming, it was created to do whatever the application is on the device, app's run everything and if a game is made for it so be it, this device is created to be a multitasking unit, I for one can't wait to be sitting on one of my long journey to work or home and just watch a movie on the go full surround sound, also since most of you haters of MS, saying games this and games that, just imagine a Bluetooth connection between your mobile phone or mini tablet to this device, your phone or tablet being the controller, you can adjust the size of the screen to suit yourself, I play Dungeon Hunter(V) on my tablet everywhere, now this is just app, so why can't it be possible on this device that was never intended to focus on games. Can you take VR on the road, are you free to move about with VR, NO you can't, don't get me wrong I can't wait to see what the gaming industry do with VR, but HOLOLENS, I don't see them pushing it, but I do see indie games making a big bang with, on the move big screen gaming, this device is a multitasker like your PC/MAC,and TABLETS, If pushed and marketed correctly you would see this more common place, it may look silly to ware out on the streets, but when people start to ware, depending on the price, who knows what possible and I can tell you, there will be two types, the one sold to the general public and the one sold to businesses and universities training hospitals and schools, I don't see any other devices offering this flexibility apart from your laptop, tablet and mobile phone all on a small screen. Game on
Well, if you're talking about being on a journey and watching movies/projecting game screens then actually I'd like VR instead of AR. Why would I want my game overlaid on top of random surroundings (which looking at the Hololens might not work so well as the 'windows' seem to snap to flat surfaces which aren't in ready supply on the move). Wouldn't it be better to effectively sit in a dark cinema with surround sound and watch your movie, or project your games video feed up onto the massive screen? Plus the Holo lens FoV is pretty tiny which annoys me as all the promo bullshots have shown it effectively taking up the whole area wherever you look as opposed to the center.
While HoloLens is going to be very cool for gaming, I know that Microsoft is making it to use in numerous industries. Gaming, architecture, design, science, etc. etc. I like that they are trying to make something that can be used in all facets of your everyday life; it is an interesting little device, and I am excited to see where the project goes.
HoloLens is not a gaming device by nature. The everyday use will be awesome and the gaming aspect is just icing on the cake. Imagine all the possibilities with it... This device is perfect for watching sports, gaming and of course porn. Every TV station tries to sell you the second screen stuff, here the second is just there when you want it.
on the video game front... yeah, hololens isn't that big deal for games, there are much better things... on other fronts... damn, this thing is amazing, i can see this becoming a must have product. it's still early, and there are lot's of problems, but there is lot's of potenttial on lens.
@ captain wormy...I think that remains to be seen. But yes, VR is more relevant right now and certainly closer to consumers hands. But hololens does seem like it has cool potential. Maybe it will wow us, who knows. Unless they repeat the whole "project natal will change earth and cure cancer and peter molynuex talking to wierd virtual kids" thing.
Back in the days, 3D was suppose to be the future. It did get resurrected only to die a horrific death. Sony went all in on 3D and it was an epic fail. Back in the days, Nintendo try to do VR saying it was going to be the future. It failed and has shown up again. Sony has gone all in and guess what will happen? Just a matter of time. Augmented Reality was done with Sony Eye back in the days. Like all the other tech, it was cool but died. Now years later MS is making it look even cooler but outside of Minecraft no real gaming advantage. It too will fail like Google glasses.
All this is subjective.
Cool tech but if the view from inside is really that confined I don't know how well it will do.
Haven't we all dreamed of experiencing holograms? Think the tech is still in early days so to most consumers/users on this site it might not look as appealing right now but in a few iterations or given some time, this tech could be revolutionary
I completely agree. Like you said in future iterations. I believe it's decades away similar to VR was in the early 90's.
Great how about getting it ready for the public , growing tired of waiting .
Was with them until I found out it doesn't cover the whole display. Not fully immersing.
It costs $5000 is limited in its application and its uses. Of course no ones touching it.
What? There is no consumer pricing even in the pipeline. MS has said they want this to cost between 700-1000.
You going to pay 700-1000 for it? not me.
I don't think anyone else can afford it or even understand it.
what do you need to understand?
Fov is trash on this and like all Microsoft's mock up demonstrations it's just smoke and mirrors. Yes it works but it is nowhere true to the concepts and demos they show.
(...)the potential that lies within their HoloLens technology. Key word: LIES. Wearable autonomous form factor, ARM, and...think again, any of you believes in the pitch concept vídeos? how massive is the computational power required to display a real time generated, volumetric, dynamic hi res map of the surface of mars in front of you? Here's a clue, it would require a much heavier device or one that is not a phone gpu. Verdict? Microsoft took an ARM and slapped a sticker on it that reads "holographic processor"(<-this is not a joke this really happened), the fact that they claim is an inventión of theirs, "the first ever", and try to infuse such nonsense is just the cherry on top. On the other hand, it's not like it would be imposible to do some of the things displayed by the marketing team, if you really want to see other places, you know, you would need to use a GPU power of, jeez, I don't know, maybe a proper computer? Like with several GB of RAM and stuff, an OLED display that, -bare with me-, has a FOV superior to 90°, and maybe then those graphics could happe... What's that you say? The other guys are working on it?, better send a memo to MS then, they seem to be distancing from GAMES.
what in the world are you talking about? i gotta a headache after reading this.
You actually read that crap...I stopped after the first 3 words. If this was a Sony product he would be jiszing all over it.
I know that was a rethoric question, but all I'm saying is that the things they showed in their vídeos are imposible to do with a headset that is not connected to a more powerful render or server; a PC or console. You guys seem to think a computer ATX tower is big just so it looks more badass or something, but the truth of the matter is that there are power\size limits. You guys must think the oculus or psvr are "what makes the graphics", well get a f* clue, there's a cable and several GFLOPS on the other end. Hololens does not have that cable. It is capable of mobile graphics, ergo, the demo videos we've seen are bogus. These are simply facts. Cope.
first you have no ideal what your talking about, hololens is pretty much a wearable computer that's where its getting its processor power from. second, you say everything is a lie, People have actually try hololens and seem very impressed. So I don't if you been hater because it's a Microsoft product or you didn't do any research and make a lot bs. http://www.windowscentral.c...
As revolutionary as it with be , I doubt it will really get it's foot through the door marketwise . Between Oculus support on the PC side and PSVR with PS they'll standardize VR to be the new mainstream technology. Between PC and PS4's rapidly growing user base combined , the support they with get will be unfathomable . Application is key and vital to longevity .
Standardize is the main thought I had also. If your want VR to become main stream, someone is going to come out on top as the standard..who it is right now..i dunno
I doubt Oculus and psvr tech will be so far apart .... meaning hopefully that developers won't have a hard time coding to make a product compatible with both. If that's the case I'm riding on VR in general and not AR
I can definitely speak for the majority of 3D artists out there when I say that, Hololens will be a huge deal when combined with Maya. I teach 3D and there has not been a single lecturer, industry freelancer or student that I have met who does not get giddy over the idea of seeing their models on their desk in 3D while modelling. This is indeed a game changer, and anyone who works on intricate modelling in Maya will know how beneficial it would be to have a 3D hologram of their model to easily view and understand depth, curvature and spatial density. I will be getting one on the first day.