MWEB GameZone writes: " This Black Friday saw the PlayStation 4 have a couple of positive results, but there is a looming problem on the horizon"
I recon we'll see a repeat of last Christmas with Lizard Squad. Curious as to why they didn't target Xbox as well on Black Friday.
I'm not convinced it was lizard squad and not just high demand
same, I don't even think Sony or microsoft evn acknowledged it was them, I mean we ALWAYS have downtime during the holidays
They started posting around 30 minutes to 1 hour before PSN went offline telling people they were going to take it down. I'm pretty sure it was them, 'high demand' is pretty optimistic imo, these douches are planning to do the same as last year and I wish we'd all stop giving them media attention, perhaps they'd stop then.
@YinYangGaming: A full 30 minutes before? Ok, I'm a member of the Crab Squad and I'm going to bring down PSN next year about this time. That's a whole year before so I'm assuming when it happens you'll be mighty impressed. It won't have anything to do with the millions of people accessing PSN deals or the thousands and thousands of new PS4 owners who are logging in and downloading the latest firmware, or accessing those PSN deals for themselves, it will be just ME and my fellow members of 'The Crab Squad.' You have been warned! http://i.ndtvimg.com/mt/coo...
Can I join Crab Squad, I'm adept at using my keyboard and mouse to do stuff and I like your ambitions.
@iDadio: We have strict rules here at Crab Squad and only the most trusted people can get access to our vast network of cutting edge technology. Here are the requirements: 1: You must send us your little finger in an unmarked envelope. Make sure you wash it first (not the envelope, your little finger). 2: You must be capable of making unfounded claims and sticking by them in the face of all other possibilities. 3: Send us your credit card details. Your anonymity is assured.
Lizards twitted them hour before the attack saying it's just the test before the christmas, but yeah, let's damage control and say it's high demand, let's pretend the issue of PSN doesn't exist, it'll better for consumers in the long run, right?
Hey, guys Can i join the club ?! i will bring doritos and mountain due. I already sent my finger (i swear it's my finger not someone else -_-) and i claim that Ouya will win this consoles race.
That sucks, Lizard Squad is pointless. "Oh look at us, we can do a weak Ddos attack and ruin everyone's fun for no purpose or political reason". What a waste of time... Ruin some 8 year olds Christmas morning. Freaking dorks.
Its just not funny or amusing if another attack. I bought a ps4 for my 9yo boy. I told him two more years till he gets the console to throw him off,,so i cant wait to see his face opening the gift. I also have joint custody of him and dont see him much, and this is a chance to atleast spend some time together online here and there. It more than pisses me off ya know
For anyone who follows Lizard Squard on social media, all you are doing is giving them the attention and outlet they want. All they want is attention and to cause headaches, the more you retweet and spread their message the more they will do and stay around.
Idont have a ps4. But its probably not too bad since ppl were shopping on black friday. Not really aggressively playing much games i would assume. My ps3 didnt have any problems. Bought a bunch of games w that 10% discount on the ps store on black friday. Sony needs to make sure psn is secured during christmas though. We'll see.
Tidux said there was a record number of players online on Black Friday so that makes it an easy explanation for the outage that day. It was fine on Saturday and Sunday though so kudos to Sony for quickly reacting to the increased traffic.
I love how it calls millennials fickle because they prefer the PS4. Not a biased article at all.
@bansai... What are you insinuating? that if it was lizard squad indeed and they targeted Microsoft their wouldn't be issues with live also? thats absurd. What dont you undertstand? anything is hackabel, for christ sake even the pentagon has been hacked before. The issue with PSN lol im done.
So, you're trying to say PSN has no issues? NOW IM DONE lawl.
I had minor issues trying to log in but NOTHING (caps for emphasis) compared to last year. Hopefully will not occur again like last yr. if it does shame on Sony for not taking necessary preventative measures
They were doing tests for Xmas apparently.
PS4 won the console battle so back friday thing was gonna be easy
@YinYangGaming "I wish we'd all stop giving them media attention, perhaps they'd stop then." Well you're giving them credit also by saying they were responsible. Them saying that would take it down 30 mins before doesn't prove their claim because it takes a while for reports to be reported by the media so could have already been happening and this isn't the first time as pointed out by Nitrowolf2 PSn has struggled during peak times.
Nonsense, XBL has crapped the bed on every major game release in recent memory. Its always either people cant download their digital copy or update, cant redeem codes for dlc, season passes or preorder bonuses or cant connect to a game. The fact is network infrastructure is nowhere near ready for the level of traffic and bandwidth needed to accomodate that much concurrent activity.
Exactly. The console that sales the most will always have online infrastructure problems.
Halo 5 says hi. Flawless launch.
@Razor - A quick Google search shows that Halo 5's launch was in fact not flawless. OT - I'm just glad I had no trouble logging in when I got back home sunday night. I was really jonesing for some Battlefront after 5 days without it.
@rzadarazor I work at a video game store and fielded plenty of calls from people having trouble with Halo 5.
Why is PSN always being attacked? I say MERGE. Let MS handle the interface and Sony do the hardware. Problem solved. Love 'em both so I don't care.
Microsoft tried to do just that in the early 1990's when the internet was just starting to become popular with the general public. Basically they were given a one finger salute by Governments, Universities and Defense Departments who had already installed the basic infrastructure for the Internet. If you are interested read the following " https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... and then answer the following question. "Would you really want Microsoft managing the Internet?"
Whoa, never said anything about managing the internet. I was talking about making ONE console together. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and could benefit from one another.
PSN never went down for me. Couldn't access the store on first try, but j was gaming online fine. These wannabes aren't proving anything, and it doesn't even mean they were involved. Haven't they lied and took responsibility for this in the past? Sony had already acknowledged a record number of connected and new connected devices too.
Outage for me was 2 hours.. Didn't really seem like a big deal. Sure it was longer for hours but yeah, Wasn't really a big deal. That said.. Sony won the total sales for Black Friday which is a win period. Even if they lost by 4% among Middle Aged 34 - 50, they won by 16% among Millennials 18 - 33. The is classic spin but to each their own. I can always tell if it's going to be an article from a site I have never heard of by the title and then after reading the article I tell why they are a website I have never heard of.
you hope its the lizard Squad and not due to people being added . Just show that sony network is weak .
Really hope hackers ruin xmas again :(
Why would you want something like that to happen?
Judging by the sad face, I think he forgot the word don't.
I agree. That's just weird thing you said that @Sillicur.
@Skate-AK I think you are right. @Two Force I think like Skate-AK said, he might have forgot to put the word 'don't'.
Bit early to claim PS4 'won' Black Friday based on Infoscout's findings but it's safe to say both have 'won' this holiday, I'd bet both surpassed a 1 million sales this month
It wasn't too early last year when the same company said the same thing about Xbox one. Everyone ran with it and shouted it from the mountain top.
Well it was too early then and it's too early now. Just because some silly people went with it doesn't mean we, respectable people should go with it . : P
Nah. It's not rocket science to see that Sony has completely dominated Black Friday. Everyone and their grandmas are picking up PS4s, and I can't blame them. Sony have nailed it with their bundles on offer.
Don't you think you may be spreading that outlook a little to thick , come on everyone .
^ Not really. I work at Best Buy part time and a lot of people were picking up PS4 bundles, especially the Uncharted one.
such great bundles, cant wait to play this ps3 games on the 2 year old next gen system!!!!
It's fairly obvious. Most people are buying Fallout4 on PS4, COD on PS4, there is a recent price drop on PS4. Logic dictates they are buying the PS4 in huge numbers.
@kenwonobi More people own a Ps4 so DUH.... Also theire is nothing really big this holiday at Playstation besides 3. party content. I know this sounds kind of fanboyish but im still playing a ton of Forza, Tomb Raider and Halo at the moment. I dont really have much time for Fallout, Cod and Battlefront. I really like those games but this holiday is way too packed....
@ Tobsesan "I dont really have much time for Fallout, Cod and Battlefront. I really like those games but this holiday is way too packed...." I don't want to sound fanboyish as well but that's ^^ MS's fault.
The question is why do gamers care. These companies are making money let's leave it at that. The have the puppets dancing around fighting for them while they laugh. Pathetic
i didn't experience an outage last week. i bet it's heavy load due to the glut of new games and players... then again, i live in Asia...
My PSN was definitely down for a good 90 mins that I noticed. Obviously longer had I tried sooner. Lizard people suck. Oh, except Sleestak. They're ok.
+for the Sleetak reference!!! LOL
I'm in the UK and all has been well
Store was a bit slow for me on Saturday, but I was able to make connections for anything I did. I wasn't aware there was an attack on Friday and I was on my Vita half the day.
@YinYangGaming + 1h ago Bit early to claim PS4 'won' Black Friday based on Infoscout's findings but it's safe to say both have 'won' this holiday, I'd bet both surpassed a 1 million sales this month. While being reserved in wanting to see the full data to come out, Microsoft's A.Greenberg, already tweeted, that both sold well , but on the same token did not claim North Americas #1 console brand sold in America during black Friday, though he did point out it was in the top 5 electronics's that sold very well & Sony's PS4 was also in the Top 5 list. So the fact he did not claim #1 when he tweeted but pointed to top 5 most likely does mean Sony took 1st place over console market in black Friday console sales. But make no mistake about it all condoles sold really well over black Friday , and that's a good thing for the market anyway.
I think Greenberg believes that the PS4 has won BF. Why would he acknowledge both consoles doing well. He is known for bregging about every Xbox wins. I think this article is a cheap shot at Sony. I can say that I didn't have any problems getting online.
@Clarence + 7m ago I think Greenberg believes that the PS4 has won bf. I completely Agree, I think the internal data that they have already points to such, because at this point I doubt very much they would not have some idea who has won or who is in the lead. Its about sale market for the weekend, so only one weekend in the markets region that really they are looking at for the black Friday data. The very same data point Applications was used last year for this very same data. 300,000 consumer recipient sending in the purchase tickets in to show the purchase is a sample size, but its not a small one at that. So the point is , it may be a sample size but it is not a small enough to ignore the sample size as just a "small sample" size the data collection on such a sales point. In this point is at least showing unique sales purchase tickets. Were sent in, not duplicates but separate purchase's. 300,000 sample size is a very large sample size. For a market sell through in retail store to consumer, and a consumer spending the time to upload that purchase ticket.
A cheap shot? Maybe. It does seem to be looking for some negative to downplay Sony's success. I mean, is a short outage on Black Friday from a possible network attack actually even related to sales at all? I mean, it would be one thing if Sony was having to cut their price in half to get those sales, then I can see why it would be a win lose situation, but this is just stretching it. Wouldn't mind MS actually saying how well they did. I'm sure it wasn't up there with Sony, but I think it's probably good enough to give some good news for those that aren't all uptight about perpetuating the sales war.
According to infoscout, I think both companies should be quite happy. The percentages weren't that far apart, although Sony saw more gain over the normal ratio's. Even though MS percentage was reduced, the overall number of consoles that sold this holiday was so high, they obviously had a nice surge. I don't see any reason anyone should be arguing over it, because it seems this holiday is going to be a very happy one for a lot of people. There's still another 25 shopping days as well, and it's likely that people will still be buying a lot of consoles over the next few weeks as the pricing will remain where it is all holiday probably.
Psn was down? must not have been for that long. I was on it quite a bit this weekend.
Same for me in the UK. Only noticed a notification saying PSN under maintenance after I switched it off and then on about 30 minutes later and I started plant vs zombies for my kid and it worked just fine nonetheless. No problem all weekend playing a lot on line.
Same here. I didn't even know this was an issue for a lot of people until I read this. I was on almost all day on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Gave it a rest on Sunday, put up the Xmas tree, and got ready for the week ahead.
Why is everyone loaded with bubbles? Yeah I was online all weekend/Thanksgiving. Downloading games and everything with no problems but of course everyone including myself and the likes of you will get disagrees for stating facts that occur in own our home.
same thing for me, im on the east coast if it matter(Quebec, Canada)
Not seeing how this translates into a loss, though.
They needed something to downplay, maybe?
I'm from Europe (Italy) and i used the PSN in these days to download things. Never had a problem so.... i didn't know about the "outage".
Ill wait for official numbers before jumping conclusions
Yea why is everyone always jumping conclusions? I mean sure he's a little weird, but what did he do to you?
I had no outage, and was on Battlefront the entire holiday weekend, BF included. It was not even close to being wide spread enough to warrant an article like this. A few short hiccups in select areas. This is reaching a bit much.
Yea sadly even a few minutes and PSN is down articles all over the Internet we are used to it by now. Was playing when a friend who came to visit told me it's in the news. I said WTF? Haha
How does Sony winning one st