PlayStation VR Devs 'strongly advised' to Make Seated Games to 'maximise safety'

Standing-based virtual reality (VR) experiences have become viable much faster than many had anticipated thanks to the HTC Vive head-mounted display (HMD) and its Room Scale user tracking. This feature, provided by partner Valve and its SteamVR system, allows players to walk around the real world in a small area and have these movements replicated in-game. Despite these advances, Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE) is still ‘strongly advising’ developers to create seated titles for its PlayStation VR HMD for PlayStation 4 in the name of safety.

[SaveMeJebus]

I can see their concern... https://www.google.com/sear...

[Kidmyst]

Not surprised Considering how many TV's were broken with the Wiimote being thrown, they don't want people walking or flailing about into objects.

[nitus10]

While I do think the PlayStation VR devs are quite correct other Devs will probably think otherwise.

With the PSVR headset you really are pretty much limited to the room the PS4 and it's camera are in , however there are some VR headsets that will be coming out for mobile phones. Now that is really worrying.

If people can get distracted by using a mobile phone then how much more would they be distracted by using a VR headset that can be attached to it.

I think YouTube will be an even more popular site once VR starts to take off.

[kenwonobi]

Doesn't it stand to reason most gamers sit down playing games anyways? They just want conventional games in vr because they know we are lazy. Most AAA title we sit. They are basically saying don't make gimmick standing up games like Kinect had.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

That's not what is being said, like at all. What does laziness even have to do with anything...

[MazzingerZ]

http://www.virtuix.com/vide...
http://cyberith.com/product

Not sure if they will ever make it to the market but I guess that's not what gamers want...or?

Imagine playing online and running like that...for other not that fast-paced games it could be kind of cool, exploring without worrying about security...you don't need much space to be able to walk around in the game.

[frostypants]

Nothing to do with laziness and everything to do with it being a liability issue, I am guessing. Some dummy will fall headfirst into a glass table or something and complain that Sony didn't include a helmet...

[IamTylerDurden1]

Ken is right, they want games to be games in VR and not just gimmicks. There will be the fun stand-up experience here and there but overall VR games will be just like PS4 games only more immersive.

They want this to be the new standard. This is NOT a gimmick and it's not being treated as such.

[ShinMaster]

@MazzingerZ

Yes but people are moving in place and are strapped in with a Cyberith or Omni.

It's an entirely different scenario.

[kingPoS]

Wait! People use to stand up when playing games? Does this mean I have to buy a nice cozy leather couch for VR. Maybe I should settle for a mussel instead.

Gateway MT6706 2008

[Yobo5]

Also found some concern to be concerned about next to your concern, looks like a really smelly situation to be in. Next stop on the VR train Smell-o-vision....

https://www.google.com/sear...

[SaveMeJebus]

Lol! If I took off my VR headset and saw that, I would put it back on and NEVER take it back off. Bub+ for Funny!

[tanukisuit]

Bwahaha, good find!

[memots]

LOL
https://www.google.ca/url?s...

[jujubee88]

The TV scan-out and social experience is still being promoted -- I'm guessing since ppl will use VR alone (most of the time) and wont have a person in the room to hold a wire, warn them of the coffee table to their left, etc.

[IamTylerDurden1]

The TV out is a brilliant inclusion to PlayStation VR and will certainly make it a more social experience. Asymmetrical gaming with other ppl is a fantastic idea as well as the ability to share your experience with others in the room.

[Eonjay]

Safety first! Also, what happens if they scare you so much that you run with the wire and stuff attached to you.

[Shadowsteal]

The final product will be wireless.

[Pandamobile]

No it won't. Untethered VR is a few years away (mobile solutions like GearVR not withstanding)

[SweatyFlorida]

@Venomous

https://media.riffsy.com/im...

[kaizokuspy]

At first I laughed because of what venomous wrote, but then I really laughed bc of @sweaty florida

[Muzikguy]

@venom

No

Just sayin

[Shadowsteal]

Damn, I stand corrected.

I could've sworn I read somewhere Sony mentioned that they're gonna try their damnedest to deliver a wireless final product.

But I guess I was wrong, or misread. But I apologize anyways.

Sorry folks!

[DLConspiracy]

"Devs also insist that you DO NOT drive and VR"

[djplonker]

Well there goes my plans to develop a running into walls simulator... It felt so real too.

[Bebedora]

Titled: The Adventures of Magoo

[frostypants]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawk...

[pompombrum]

Not just for safety reasons but practicality too.. I don't want to be playing games where it's recommended I stand when I play.

[Eonjay]

Honestly, most gamers don't.

[Takwin]

Despite my love of Steam, I think their vision of moving in some huge space most of us don't have in our homes is wrong.

I WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH A NORMAL CONTROLLER AND PLAY WITH A VR HEADSET. That's all I want. Standing and walking games in some Holodeck-lite is many years in the future and not what I want to do to wind down and enjoy myself.

[parentsbasement]

Some idiot will still fall out of his chair , then sue and ruin it for the rest of us...

[Malice-Flare]

additional disclaimers for Horror/Suspense games: not for the faint of heart...

[ThunderPulse]

I wonder if there will be heart attack warnings on the box for those games LOL

[secretcode]

All joking aside? I can totally see lots of health warnings not just on the games but the hardware.

[Muzikguy]

I think labels should read "play at your own risk. If you hurt yourself playing this game remember YOU chose to do it. Therefore no harm can come to the company for your mistakes. Dealwithit"

[nitus10]

Unfortunately some people need to have everything spelled out for them and in multiple languages. Even then there is always some legalese that can be used to sue a producer.

When you see a packet of nuts with the warning on it saying "Caution may contain nut products" then I do feel we are taking warnings too far. What next Mick Chocolate with the warning "May contain milk products" ... Oh wait. :-)

[Jayszen]

There will be just too many accidents otherwise. As much as devs can try and make instructions clear, there will always be some people who take things to extremes and end up walking off a balcony or into the edge of a door with scary consequences.

I have a disabled friend who is really looking forward to PS VR (he cannot walk unaided) and he loves the idea of being able to sit in one place and yet have the sensation of moving in an immersive experience he hopes VR will bring. In fact, my friend has always maintained that VR can bring lots of benefits to disabled people and is currently writing a paper on the application of gaming and VR to patients suffering from depression and stress as a result of injuries that have resulted in permanent disability.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I am with you 100% I think there are a ton of positives that VR can bring especially in the lives of those who may be challenged physically...but devs and makers of VR need to be careful as the proceed. Implement and create experiences that are going to be quality and safe to the users first and foremost.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Given the PS VR is a wired unit the likely hood of people tripping into their TV sets or worse is 100% real if they have games that have you moving about. Even with the room/wall detection capabilities or some this is a real danger to VR users and these companies need to be aware of that. If they can get VR to a wireless state then and only then should they look to make games that have you actually moving about imo. First person that crashes through their coffee table will be followed up by a flood of lawsuits. It is 100% foreseeable that someone could trip on the wires / get tangled up if they are being asked to turn and move about in a small space and no amount of legal terms will negate that fact if someone files a negligence lawsuit.

[SmokingMonkey]

So, your head becomes the left analog stick in FPS's.....

...I'm in!

[HaHa_Ostrich]

And how would you turn around?

[SmokingMonkey]

Oops, I meant right stick, but either way to answer your question;

I imagine it would be like with PS Move and the Sharpshooter, you would basically have to "look" outside of the center of your view to turn that way.

Here's KZ3's "box"

http://farm6.static.flickr....

Difficult to work with PS Move, but I imagine it will be very natural with PS VR

[fireplace]

Takes 360 no-scope kills to a new level.

[nitus10]

You still have a controller which could be the PSMove or DS4 or a combination of both.

[LAWSON72]

I believe it would be like

Left walking

Right body direction

VR head movement

[Takwin]

That is exactly what I want. Seems like it could be easily done in any of the open-world games I've enjoyed over the past few years.

[SniperControl]

I've had the Oculus DK2 for over a year now, playing FPS games is a doddle.

The HMD mimics your head movement, not your body movement, you still use the right stick to control your body from the neck down, turning left and right for example, on VR dedicated games, you lose up and down as your HMD will take care of that.

Just imagine using your head to line up the cross hairs on a target, then pulling the R2 to fire while using the right stick to turn your body ready for the next target behind you, all this at the same time, head movement is an extra axis.

[Jayszen]

So are you sold on VR? It seems you more than most here would have better grasp of whether PS VR can be successful at least from having an experience that may be similar leaving aside the graphical differences.

[SniperControl]

@jayszen

Absolutely, VR is a massive gamechanger, be it on PS4 or PC, all the people i know who have tried VR love it, Project CARS and Elite Dangerous are stunning in VR, takes you to another level of immersion, Alien Isolation in VR is 5h1t scary, i've just recently got into Euro Truck Simulator 2 in VR, been driving around Europe in my truck for hours on end.

Point is, i could never go back to playing those games on a boring 2D monitor or TV, i tried to play Forza 6 after playing PCars VR and couldn't do it, the immersion is not there, i actually missed having the tight confines of the cars cabin wrapped around me. That's why I am so happy that games like Gran Turismo and Driveclub will have VR with the PSVR.

Disregard the negative comments from people in here, i have said it numerous times, they have never tried VR of any sort judging by there comments. Negative comments(especially towards PSVR) are coming from certain people and we all know which side of the console fence they lean on.

I read your comment above, trust me, you and your friend will love it.

Oculus CV1 and PSVR day one.

[Jayszen]

@ SniperControl

I was looking forward to PS VR based on what I had seen of the videos and demos at the various game shows, as well as all the reviews from gaming journalists, most of whom have been very positive about PS VR. However, it is experiences like yours that are far more important and have more weight. Thanks!

[captainexplosion]

This is one aspect of VR I don't like. Why not just use two nunchuck like controllers with joysticks so you can move around like normal, plus be able to use your hands in VR and the nunchuck could also be used as a gun.

[Duke19]

Seriously they keep showing us these cool ideas for VR, like playing as Godzilla and stomping around buildings.

That will be perfect to use in my massive empty warehouse.

[FunAndGun]

maybe one day...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[DivineAssault]

I dont see many people wanting to stand up when playing games anyway.. I strongly advise the same thing.. Nobody wants to wrap themselves up in the cords like in a looney tunes cartoon..

I cant wait for a solid price, release date, and launch titles to be announced.. Im going to invest in this rather than the xb1.. The more i read about it, the more excited i get about buying.. So much potential and looks to be a future mainstay in gaming.. PLEASE release a AAA survival horror game for this!

[Pillsbury1]

Hopefully at psx!

[Jayszen]

I think horror will be the one of the more popular genres on VR. Sony have the sequel to 'Until Dawn' coming to PS VR and I think it won't be long before 'Resident Evil' will make the jump. A PS VR version of Kojima's aborted game would be welcome if Konami can get their heads out of the collective asses.

[donwel]

Time to roll out this picture again http://i.imgur.com/BRaKGXM.... (not psvr but you get the idea).
OT: I think until we get something like they use on SAO or Accel World there's always going to be some kind of danger of injury with VR. Either to the player or from the player accidentally treading on their cat (or dog if you swing that way).

[nitus10]

The base concept of the headset in SOA kept your physical body immobile except for the basics of actually keeping the real body alive.

I shudder to think of the warnings you would have to read and agree to to actually wear a gaming machine like the SOA headset. Still the concept would be the closest a human can get to true Virtual Reality without having to discard their physical body.

[alfcrippinjr]

vr is going to fail it been done before and that failed
and it wont be good for your eyes.

its a gimmick nothing more

[kenwonobi]

Nothing is known. That's what they said of many things that succeeded. This is much more potential than some of those other things.

[kenwonobi]

Don't advise them on anything other than creativity. Pigeonhole a machine is not way to start off. Just let them throw anything and everything on the wall. Any kind of publicity is good publicity. Let this thing be controversial as it gets. Let it fly off shelves because it's so talked of.

[FN4GM]

At least until the inevitable Mad Catz safety bubble peripheral is released.

[Picnic]

I think VR is a clumsy, heavy peripheral waste of time in gaming for anything other than Minecraft, as a driving game gimmick and for shock scare, rather linear horror, games. They might be better off making super curvy TVs that go to the sides of you and encouraging us to sit closer with the lights out. Modern VR was developed with business and medicine in mind. If VR was so great it would have been dominant in arcades for years.

[SniperControl]

You should actually try VR, you'll see that it's completely different to what you think it is.

[Picnic]

I have. It wasn't.

I got more of a feeling of VR from playing F Zero GX on the Gamecube on a pre-HDTV era TV.

All you're doing is putting the action up closer to you. So if the visuals look worse than they would on a high definition TV, you're not going to be especially wowed.

Fair play to anyone who loves it- but it's all in your personal preference that you do love it. It relies on you accepting a certain form of presentation over another and ignoring the limitations.

It's always going to be a mass consumer kind of VR. A proper VR would see people sat in motion control seats with a 360 degree wrap around screen that comes around them and above and below them as they play in the dark with no glasses on. But that would be costly.

[SniperControl]

Seems like there are alot of VR experts in here who have never tried VR.......

[DigitalRaptor]

Indeed. There are already plenty of VR experiences out there already on Oculus in particular that are designed or at least accessible for seated sessions, so this is not going to be a problem. These people have no idea what they're talking about.

I mean just read the comment up there of the fellow, who is disingenuously agreeing with DoctorFraud (who has never actually tried VR and doesn't understand the significance of presence in a virtual reality environment), acting condescending and putting words in peoples' mouths whilst comparing an actual descriptor of the benefits VR technology with the "power of the cloud" which is actually marketing term that we still haven't seen from an end-user perspective yet, unlike VR which HAS had end-user perspective and there's more evidence out there that proves it to be highly immersive than not.

Like Spotie said, wasn't that same one now talking about how the power of the cloud has been proven and validated with Crackdown 3? Yep. They were arguing with me about it. So by their logic "immersive" cannot be a buzzword and VR immersion is thus validated. Tells you everything you need to know about that agenda.

And they frankly agreed with somebody that asked "how is VR immersive?", which is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. VR is designed to trick the human senses, and make you feel like you're in a different space than your living room, and it has succeeded. The evidence out there - reaction videos alone - prove that it's disorients people because they think that what is in front of their eyes is real. Their reactions tell you everything. You can't negate this - it's the stuff that goes hand in hand with common sense if you understand the technology.

It's kinda disgusting that there is droves of evidence out there, documentation, journals, blogs, articles and reaction videos that prove how immersive VR is to those who have used it (even with something cheap like Google Cardboard), and yet somebody can be THIS desperate to downplay something they've never tried, without any facts, because it doesn't represent their console of choice. What a joke. Clowns will be clowned.

[gangsta_red]

What's even funnier is how much people put stock into something they also never tried this and just sound like a PR marketing and all because one device out of many is backed by Sony.

Where is this proof, documented facts, blogs and everything else, or is all this from other people but for you no personal experience whatsoever? That is the hilarious part of all this. How you and others are so quick to accept this as the next step in gaming without any proof, trying it for yourself or anything else. And yet any skepticism is met with anger and accusations.

How many devices, peripherals have we gotten throughout history that was supposed to change the way we play games? And yet, here we are, still playing on the tried and true televsion set that our ancestors did back with Pong.

But of course for Digital, anyone who disagrees with VR has an agenda or is downplaying it. You think that VR was created and made exclusively for the Sony platform only. He thinks that no one else has tried VR even though HTC has been demoing theirs around SF (where I live) for months now. But coming to conclusions without logic, facts or proof seems to be the only thing you're good at.

"Like Spotie said, wasn't that same one now talking about how the power of the cloud has been proven and validated with Crackdown 3?"

Lmao, huge difference and once again proves how ridiculous the two biggest fanboys are when trying to defend Sony. Show me where I said VR isn't real and can't be done if you want to compare the same for cloud compute.

[SniperControl]

Spot on, just grates me that most of the negative comments are coming from people who have never tried VR.

[DigitalRaptor]

Get real, Gangsta. As usual putting words in mouths. Whatever I have ever said about VR has represented the industry and all VR tech, not only Sony. Joke about thing all you want, it's not going to push VR away. And keeping making up imaginary stories in your mind. It's amazing that you've gone there. Calling me out as a fanboy is ridiculous considering your history and hypocrisy. And attempting to turn the tables on me about "not having tried it" is equally sad. Why don't you provide the evidence first before you go ahead and ask for mine? Nowhere there did I mention not having tried it, like you once said. You can pull the wool over your eyes like this, and pretend that this is a "DigitalRaptor" thing, but the hands-on feedback kinda outpaces a single person like me. That is the point that you're willingly ignoring.

And nothing you said in the above comment to DoctorFraud is true about the technology. You actually agreed with somebody who asking "how is VR immersive?". Think about that for a second. And that is again the best bit. You appear here skeptical with nothing of worth to add to the conversation, and still don't prove to bring to your case that it is "NOT IMMERSIVE”, despite people having said and thus proved otherwise. You are here SOLELY to downplay and seek some kind of imaginary retribution because Kinect and the cloud got the same treatment for your console of choice. Yet.... VR works, in practice. it's immersive based on user accounts that you're ignoring out of a tragic lack of common sense and insane stubbornness to do a simple search that would take you 5 minutes.

This is also it. You will dodge, by condescendingly asking for evidence. You did it with PS4 having more games despite lists existing that you saw and know about, and you do it here despite it being out there already posted on N4G. Like I said, the reaction videos alone are proof. You don't have to do much digging for that. So really you're only here to troll and cause controversy on VR because Xbox doesn't have it in any meaningful way.
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"Show me where I said VR isn't real and can't be done if you want to compare the same for cloud compute."

Over your head, clearly. You mentioned that "immersive" is a buzzword like power of cloud. Either way, it's either validated, or it's not. You are trying to de-validate the immersive nature of VR implying it's marketing. You argued cloud compute as being vindicated, against it being de-validated previously. So what's your point here that relates to VR? Keep dodging.

And keep exposing yourself. You have a problem with Sony fans playing up their tech, but you were nowhere arguing with Xbox loyalists in Kinect or cloud or DX12 articles about their hopes and dreams and beliefs. It's a repeating pattern Gangsta..... never picking arguments with Xbox fans doing the same stuff Sony fans are for their console. Consistently high-fiving Xbox fans talking crap on Sony articles, but needing to pick arguments with Sony fans on Xbox articles. Even your mate Septic called VR out as a "game changer", and you didn't bite his tail off. Stop pretending.

[gangsta_red]

"Calling me out as a fanboy is ridiculous considering your history and hypocrisy."

Please show me all this Digital, I have invited you many times to PM me with all your supposed claims of my history and hypocrisy, and I get nothing. At least your second account PM's me with an attempt at debating.

"Why don't you provide the evidence first before you go ahead and ask for mine?"

You who fiercely defend this go around accusing myself and others of not trying VR, too funny that after months of accusations the one time I throw it in your face now I have to provide proof?

That my friend is hypocrisy, take notes please.

"You actually agreed with somebody who asking "how is VR immersive?" "

And no one could answer that question could they Digital, especially you. In fact all you could come back with is blogs, reactions, marketing proof(?), accusations, but no real world experience from your own mouth. You're a man living through others and trying to pass off their experiences as your own. You're reading off the marketing print and passing it on as your own truth.

And yes I agreed with Doc's and others when they brought up concerns and gave examples or reasons. But as you can see I didn't reply with "look at your comment history", "you never played it", "downplay VR", "you're a hater", I leave that to you and others that for some reason can't pass up an opinion.

"You mentioned that "immersive" is a buzzword like power of cloud."

But that wasn't in your context when writing. Things seem to only make sense to you and your comparisons suck. Then again it was from Spotie so I shouldn't blame you for that.

"You have a problem with Sony fans playing up their tech,"

When did VR become Sony's tech? When did VR become exclusive to Sony only? Throughout my comments for VR I have never singled out Sony's PSVR. This, like Battlefront, is just people like who crazily think that because Sony backed something it makes it exclusively theirs.

"never picking arguments with Xbox fans doing the same stuff Sony fans are for their console."

Bitter and off topic.

"Even your mate Septic called VR out as a "game changer", and you didn't bite his tail off. Stop pretending."

Shows how little you know, not that it's any of your business but I have had many discussions with Septic about how I don't think VR will be a "game changer". And every time we talk he never accuses me of being an Xbox fanboy, doesn't accuse me of never trying VR, doesn't resort to childish low brow "comment history" or anything like that.

I hear his OPINION and VIEWS and he hears mine and that's that.

Could I do the same with you or any of your lot?

[kenwonobi]

Gangstared some of us talking about virtual reality have experienced it. Are old enough to have played it in its infancy. It was immersive way back then with worse graphics.

[kenwonobi]

Oh and hangars. There is actually experience more with virtual reality before releasing than Kinect. Factual real life evidence. Solis as granite that virtual reality is immersive. Way before releasing unlike Kinect which had zero.

[Jayszen]

@DigitalRaptor

Well said. Sniper Control talks of his experience of VR above and I rather listen to gamers like him who have actually tried VR on more than one occasion than people who say a lot but none of it based on actually trying the technology.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ Gangsta_red

Why don't you just come out and tell me who you think my "second account" is. That is simply ridiculous, and there has only ever been one other person to accuse me a few months ago of having a second account (!?!!?), and guess what? They were an Xbox fanboy too. And really... I don't read my PMs anymore because the only people that have ever PM'd in the past have been lunatic Xbox fanboys with misinformation who are annoyed with what I have to discuss. And if I don't PM you with this account (my sole account) why would I use another one to PM you? Ummm, seriously. Like I said.... lunatic. I have never seen your "invitations" to discuss history/hypocrisy. Hyperlink plz?

But how about we focus on YOUR dodging here. Your unwillingness to stand up, rather than throwing stuff at me and dodging my points. Calling something which is in your opinion bitter doesn't devoid you of it being true. Instead of dancing around why or why not your history proves that you DO indeed only ever attack Sony fans, defend Xbox fans doing similar and and never vice versa, why don't you stop dodging and calling my comment off-topic, when you were initially responding and in support of an off-topic comment with off-topic content and you do so all the time.
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"the one time I throw it in your face now I have to provide proof?"

I've asked you before to prove you've experienced VR. You know this isn't our first time talking on the same comment chain. There's lots of things you are yet to prove, and until you do there's no impression I will have of you other than that of someone disingenuous, and your comment history doesn't help despite your intentional vague inference as to why you're balanced. Why don't you prove to me that you own a PS4 for example, and that you have played through The Last of Us? These are simple requests and you haven't provided proof for obvious reasons.

You're asking for my personal impressions of VR, yet my impressions go hand-in-hand with the consensus that you believe doesn't exist. Your opinion aligns with that of a person who hasn't even tried it - because you don't (and never do) go into specifics as to why the tech is NOT immersive, and like a tinfoil maniac act as though "immersive" is a marketing word when it's a baseline descriptor of modern VR tech. Why don't you talk about that rather than trying to distract away from that?

And that is the root of this.... you responded to an off-topic comment with no information about why the tech is NOT IMMERSIVE. You provided NOTHING contrary to the information that is out there from previews and reaction videos, and you expect people to take those words as valid opinion or something they should be respectful of? And why did you mention "the power of the cloud" again....? xD

Ultimately, you're dodging and deflecting almost everything I've been asking you for, and instead trying to make this about me. VR is not Sony tech, and I never said that it was, yet here you are AGAIN, disingenuously putting words into mouths - it will never stop at this rate. PSVR as a device is Sony tech. Kinect is Microsoft tech. etc etc etc.

Here's an opinion about VR and its immersion and guess what? The OP doesn't mention Sony. Care to prepare an adverse opinion on why VR ISN'T immersive to the same level of detail? http://www.neogaf.com/forum... And btw, before you try and spin this one, I'm talking about discussion of immersion, not whether or not it's "the future"

*waits for snarky comment about discussing this in a PM* ;)

[Picnic]

Some object to the very name 'Virtual Reality'- it promises a lot doesn't it- that this will be virtually like reality. Instead of that this will be like putting a headset on and the image adjusting to your movement and the quality and variety of the imagery being dependent on the skill, time and inclination of the developer. That's not necessarily virtually reality. What people normally perceive isn't necessarily even virtually reality but that's getting philosophical.

[HD8bit]

VRfocus is really doing great work! I want to congratulate you guys on your success! Keep up the good work!
-Mike@hd8bit

[Rookie_Monster]

Seated. NO thanks. For example, if you are seated on a FPS for example, then really your head motion of looking up, left, right, down will be the only use as a controller in your hand will still be required so it really defeat the purpose of an evolutionary interactive VR experience like we all would have hope for.

[frostypants]

So wait...you want to be able to run around your room as if you are in the game? Nobodies VR tech is even proposing that at this point...they all will still require a controller (or hand gesture) for in-game movement across a plane. A *fully* VR experience would require some sort of very expensive harness system. We're far away from such a thing being a viable home product. Expecting that now would be unreasonable.

[Death]

You may be interested in reading this, http://gizmodo.com/the-neur... It helps explain some of the issues VR faces. VR will have some pretty big limitation regardless who makes it. Games will need to primarily be seated like racing games or they will need to be on rails like the Heist where interaction is limited. There is a reason we haven't seen lengthy game play for any VR devices. People are caught up in the dream of VR and missing the reality of it. If you don't start reeling in your expectations you will be disappointed when you bring it home.

[frostypants]

My expectations are just a full field of vision and being able to look around. Otherwise I expect basically what we have now. And that's enough for me.

[kenwonobi]

Reading too much into the experience. It's about being in the world. Not actually full body motions too though.

[jznrpg]

Most few should be seated but I have a huge finished basement and a couple of moving games would be cool for me. But if you live in an apartment or smaller roomed house it would suck.

[Aghashie]

Even Google Cardboard can get u disoriented if u r standing... So, sitting seems logic for a full immersing experience.

That, unless u want the extra reality hitting walls, tipping w wires, fumbing ur tv and worse, braking ur moms expensive china. Haha! My mom was like a ninja trowing her flip flops at pin point precision. I don't want to try my wife... I rather play sit.

[kenwonobi]

Yeah me too. Trolls reading too much into this article. Most people sit and playing games. Standing with a head mask would completely be dangerous.

[Maxor]

Yup. Crytek said the same thing about the OR and stated the FPS demands as the number 1 reason why they won't be porting their games to VR. Most PC gaming systems simply can not run their shooters at 90 FPS and they're afraid of getting sued by sick gamers.

[kenwonobi]

Again off topic. Not what the article say.

[MasterCornholio]

Isn't Crytek making a VR game though?

Something to do with dinosaurs if I'm not mistaken.

[benji101]

The same people who called the wii a gimmick are the people claiming VR is the future. Get real this is a stupid idea. Instead of including people in gaming this excludes people. Just plug yourself in and dont move and shut up.
What a terrible marketing image.

[captainexplosion]

Sony needs 3D bluray functionality and VR porn for this to be a massive success.

I expected games to be seated, but I do hope there are some Kinect Adventure and Kinect Sports like games. I would love table tennis and Wall Ball in VR. Wall Ball would be hard though because it can't track your legs.

[Akira2020]

If I'm paying that much money for a VR set, the hell with sitting down. I want to be totally immersed......like a blind man at an orgy.

[WelkinCole]

Yeah. Can't imagine walking around for 4hrs straight. That would be stupid.

[cd1]

I currently sit while playing video games and it looks like i shall continue to do so...why am i even commenting on this?

[outsider1624]

Can you imagine porn in VR?..Whoaa!