Microsoft has hit back at claims made by Nintendo that the Wii sells the most third party games, saying instead that it's Xbox 360 sells the most.
ms should say our 1st party game story is not a good one for 1st party games both sony and nintendo has good ones microsoft use rare well
The result is that xbox sells most of the games. Developers wants money, 360 Gives them money. Easy math. And I cant come a cross a game that sold more then MS first party title. Halo ;) How many first party title sony has that sold more than 3 mill? Right...
and what relevance does that hold to the article? None, it's a poor attempt to bash MS. If the subject matter doesn't interest you don't read the story. This is MS response to Nintendo's claim, lets stick to the subject shall we? Either way, looking at the figures, Nintendo were definitely mistaken.
Ape, stop making a fool of yourself. Sony's 1st party games do not sell anywhere near MS' 1st party games. You and your kind can go on and on deluding yourselves about how Sony's games are in your personal biased opinions allegedly better, but the facts and figures you can't run away from.
I know figures I know quality go have fun with figurs a game that sells a lot doesn't mean that it's good 70% of gamers who bought halo 3 thinks that cod 4 is much better gears of war is the only good ms 1st party game if you care about sales,just wait and see wii sports resorts
you know nothing ape. you say that the N64 it's one of the best console of all times... LOL
"I know figures I know quality go have fun with figurs a game that sells a lot doesn't mean that it's good 70% of gamers who bought halo 3 thinks that cod 4 is much better gears of war is the only good ms 1st party game if you care about sales,just wait and see wii sports resorts " Fanboy retoric.
Is to defensive, and spins everything. And they are also the most attackive of the 3. And the most arrogant. The Wii is kicking its a$$, face it!
The wii has only 3 good games on the console anyways. Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros. IMO anyways.
...a Wii fanboy. Because noone could possibly be as unintelligent as he pretends to sound. (and I love how the PS3 + 360 "fanboys" are slowly starting to coalesce; because in the end, we're all too similar in too many regards)
I think the only 1st party MS game I haven't bought I Perfect dark 0. Most of them are pretty good. My favorite on the Wii is not a 1st party game, Resident Evil iv Wii edition. The only game I like on the PS3 that doesn't exist on another platform is a 3rd party title MGS4. To say MS 1st party titles are weak is not correct. Wii first party titles are good, but not something I yearn to play. the line up of PS3 1st party titles is starting to look promising. I just hope all this competition will continue to drive the cost/price down on games and hardware accessories. All three of these companies being so close competitively is a very good thing for gamers.
Sony's first party games don't sell? Just take any of the GT games. They have sold more than anything MS can come up with. God of War series have also very respectable sales.
Shane, you're promoting the wrong company!
xgamer, gran turismo pretty much demolishes halo in total sales and individually .
Yeah, look who's talking, lmao.
you can disagree with my comment but it doesnt change facts, So have a nice day :)
AHHHH!!! No one is safe from Microsoft's PR Hate Machine! Not even the Wii! Which is kicking everyone's nuts!
i'm sorry but so... wats the point in this? if your gunna tell us stuff, tell us about good things your doing, not obvious weaknesses in competitors.
"70% of gamers who bought halo 3 thinks that cod 4 is much better" Congratulations!!! That is the dumbest thing I have read since I been here. :)
@Skadoosh He is a reliable source. He has graphs and everything.
I dont see why Nintendo see the need to lie about this, the best Wii games are first party, the best selling games are first party its a win win for Nintendo. Do they even need third party games.
"Do they even need third party games" Possibly not, but with another console in the works, possibly a "next-gen" console at that, this is not the time for Nintendo to burn any bridges with 3rd party developers. Still making up numbers is not the correct way to go about getting them on side.
Yes, and also because although their 1st party titles have certainly allowed them to secure a very nice position in the market, the longer-term battle relies much more on 3rd party titles. So when there is prevalent market "speculation" that 3rd party titles don't sell well on the Wii, they need to come up with a way to make sure that the 3rd party developers' next games do not move to the PS360s. This is an image-game. And the audience is the corporate execs at 3rd party developers. (who dont really do their own homework)
the wii without first party games is a trash 360 has decent first party games and a sh!tload of 3rd party games sony has awesome1st an 3rd party support but the real problem with ps3,that it has a bad start and it released a year after the 360
The year wait was a good one, they released a complete console...one that works....one that is impossable to overheat http://www.joystiq.com/2007... sure the PS3 doesnt have a lot of games, but it has enough to get through and has plenty on the way.... its never about quantity its about quality
Microsoft, as usual, careful choose their numbers to support their story. So we should compare the game sales of an already established console against two new competitors? This hardly make any sense. However, comparing the first 20 months of each console, the Wii's third party sales beats the XBox 360's, despite the presence of the competition < http://www.gamedaily.com/ar...
Absolutely. Microsofts spin doctors are in full flow trying to confuse the easilly dazzled again, but you can't argue with NPD data and simply showing title sales since launch. Facts are facts, and Nintendo told the truth despite MS protetsting 'black is actually white'. Edit lol at the disagreements - the chart is absolute truth of the matter!
WRONG!!!! Read the article. Yes, R E A D the article. You really should do that more often.
Bubbles for you Mont. I almost missed that.
The article was about the first 19 months of life of each console. It isn't a fair comparison if a console has been out for 12 months longer.
the wii is in its own world and dose not need any 3rd party games,all they have to do is wii fit2,wii sports2,invent some game that u use ur wii controller to do anything they have not seen before!..e.t.c and each of those games will sell 10 million easy,u gys seem to be forgeting that the wii has left the ps360 to fight for 3rd party exlusive/games while the wii just sits there out sells them every month and just keeps on getting hardcore gamers like me angry!! =/
mmmm i like that.
Seriously they are by far the most negative out of all 3 companies. Its not only getting old but rather annoying. We get it; your console is great its the best... Just please go away or at least remain quite. Thanks.
it's spelled quiet...
ahhh shut up Microsoft.
How is that bronze medal?
that bronze medal is sitting next to 2 gold medals.
nintendo hasn't has good 3rd part games for a very very long time(mid 90s), anyone who is a true nintendo fan just wants their zelda, mario, and star fox games i wish nintendo would try a little harder and stop with the whole gimmick gaming and make a cutting edge console again but i'm doubting we will ever see that everyone i know who has a wii don't touch it hardly, it is sad but the fact is millions of people buy these things just because they are "the cool thing" to have and really don't bother gaming on them aside from party situations the wii to game systems is like a cover band to the real thing it sounds similar but there is just something slightly off the slight something is good third party games and up to date technology
You sad pathetic people never learn or listen... You say nobody touches the Wii? Well then how does it still manage to sale more software than 360 or PS3? I mean if nobody is playing the Wii and it has better numbers then PS3 and 360 what are people doing with those consoles? Nothing it seems according to you..It is just sad that in your crude attempt to hate you make the PS3 and 360 look far worse than the Wii does, because the BS you are spewing and reality say the two different things. When people take what you say and apply it to reality then 360 and PS3 just look weak as hell. Wii tops them in every way but according to you kids it's doing poorly. Well if Wii really is doing poorly then 360 and PS3 are complete failures as consoles. I know you kids will disagree but thats only because you fail to comprehend whats being said.
i'm just talking about my own friends, their wiis just sit and collect dust aside from the occasional party round of wii sports which has been bundled with it since the beginning a few of them sold theirs because after a few months they realized there wasn't much of substance just because the sale are high doesn't necessarily mean it is a good platform, i never said it was failing either what i'm say is after a while it loses its novelty pretty fast in my mind i don't even consider it with the ps3 and 360, the tech is years behind, the online support is terrible, no hard drive, it was half the price at launch etc it sells well because of its novelty, not because of its games and its not a "next gen" console the wii is more of a toy than a gaming system, agree or not it is the truth
If it loses its novelty fast why is it still outselling the 360 and PS3 in software? Again what you claim to be the "truth" is far from it regardless of how many Sony fans want to disagree. If the novelty wore off then it wouldnt continue to sell software. You can talk about truth all you want but the truth is you dont really have an understanding of what you are talking about. While what happens with your friends may be your whole world to you, it isnt to everyone else.
What is fascinating to me is why they put all their creative people in the PR department. If they spent half the time on their products as they do opening their mouths they could actually make something worth while.
Probably because it is cheaper to have creativity at the PR department than to develop creative games.
God what a genius idea. /tear
Sad. Look at the sales. Look at the metacritic scores. Xbox 360 clearly has the best selling, best reviewed library. Take your FUD garbage to the open-zone -->
Foodbox if you could kindly state your facts I would be more than happy to jump onto your bandwagon, and just for the record arbitrary review scores are not facts. Semantics does not win arguments. For example, I could state that my reviews for all PS3 and Wii games are a 10 and all Xbox 360 games are 5. While it is indeed a fact that I stated it, it is not a fact in the sense that it is true it is merely "arbitrary". Hopefully you can understand that and I await your rebuttal.
Microsoft also forgot to mention that the Wii is kicking their asses and they stand no chance of making it to first place.
Thanks for admitting you have multiple accounts.
so what . why do people like juuken care which console sales the most units or games .We all know wii games are only good for 5 minutes and besides , my mother owns one so there must be something wrong with them.
Mentioning that 360 getting beaten by wii, while the Ps3 is in last place is like Linux hating on Macs for being 2nd place to windows. (Ill give you a second to mull that over) ....................... ........................
Nintendo: "The 360 first party game story is not a pretty one"...It's coming...
Nothing like seeing some Microsoft hate from the N4G threads to start off your morning. Some things never change....
i blive the wii has been kicking BOTH the ps3/360 ass! sometimes it out sells the ps3/360 combined together....its not kicking only the 360 ass! (-_-)
I know that. (-.-) But this article has nothing to do with Sony does it? It's dealing with Microsoft and Nintendo.
is up for it again! being the 1st one to say that Ninty are wrong and they sold the most (even with a 12 months head start!) I think M$ should just shut the fvck up anything about Ninty by now! They announced that they will win the console war because they sold 10mil in NA 1st but Ninty easily went beyond their numbers just a month later and being in around 6-7 mil clear of 360 worldwide by now! let Ninty plays their own game and just concentrate on what your own doing! talking anything about Ninty right now will make you look too desperate! you even have Wiimote wannabe and Mii rip-off right at the tip of your release pipeline for god sake! how much more desperate do you wanna be? sigh! ps: even if 3rd party games not selling well (compared to 1st party's) on Wii, 3rd party games sold A LOT on DS!!
u know u were taking a shot at ms!! and not what the article says!! ("_")
...-.- Microsoft has been making some really bold statements lately dealing with both Sony and Nintendo. I just asserting the fact that they can't say anything because Nintendo has been outselling them. Nintendo has been outselling Sony as well but Microsoft is the one who wants to slide into 1st place. Try reading my comment carefully again next time. Disagree as much as you want because I could care less. Microsoft has a habit of spinning things to make themselves look better in the spotlight. They're constantly underestimating the power of 1st party titles over and over again and instead they're more focused on third party sales. I wouldn't underestimate Nintendo if I were them because Nintendo has some good first party titles and Wii's are still selling. That's my point of view and I refuse to change it.
Point well taken Juuken. And I would almost nit-pick a couple of points, but your basic argument is valid.
It would seem nobody read the article. So posted below is the truth. No spin, just cold hard numbers. Total third party sales for the Xbox 360 since launch is currently 67,929,999 units, followed by the Wii at 33,394,311 units and the PlayStation 3 at 19,976,325 units. Third party sales for the Xbox 360 since the launch of the Wii and PS3 is 54,065,728 units, still almost double the Wii's 33,394,311 units. If you take the total number of units sold and divide that by the number of titles released since November 2006, the Xbox 360 and the PS3 are selling more units per title on average than the Wii. This puts the Xbox 360 at 217,252 units per title, the PS3 at 156,065 units and the Wii at 132,517 units. The 360 wins!
MS had a year head start. Of course they sold more than Wii over all when you add in that extra year. Nintendo's chart was just the first 20 months of each consoles life.
Stats are stats doesnt matter how you break it down. Woopee it was out 12 months before the wii but has double the units you do the math.
Yes, but they've still sold more software SINCE THE WII AND PS3 WERE LAUNCHED. Okay, they had a year head start. THAT WAS THEIR STRATEGY. GET TO THE MARKET FIRST. Everyone is belly-aching that Wii is going to win and blah blah blah. Are they going to sell more Wiis than MS is 360s? Yes. But I'll tell you this, 3rd party developers are currently making more revenue for their 360 titles than they are for their Wii ones. And that's the point MS is making. We might not sell more 360s, but you can be sure the titles you develop for our console will sell more units than the ones you develop for the Wii. For a 3rd party developer, they are looking at how much revenue can they make. They are in a business. They need to recoup their costs and - hopefully - make a profit. Everyone needs to eat. MS has proven that the 360 is a great home for 3rd parties.
Yes, but that also means that their hardware will retire sooner. Or rather, that their hardware is outdated compared to some of their competition. (it's hard to make that argument with the Wii in the mix, but I hope you get my point)
You guys can argue the point all you want but the FACT remains since Wii launched it has sold more software than 360. Of course if you want to add in the year Wii wasnt on the market then yes 360 has sold more, but that still doesnt change the fact that since launch Wii is winning. If you can show any kind of proof then please do so but NPD and other sources are what i am going by and they all give Wii the lead for software. Again if you can post any proof, real proof not just your opinion, then please do so.
@witch King, no they did not sale more than Wii since launch and I dont know where you get your info from but it is wrong. @tras, the only people that would say something like that dont fully understand anything about stats at all. Yeah statistics are statistics but if you knew anything about them you would already know they can be spun to prove any point one is out to make.Your whole post looks like a childish attempt to excuse being wrong by saying oh well stats are stats... People should not try to talk about things they cannot understand.
Is this for real? You're comparing software sales for a limited period of followup time of a company starting from a '0' hardware install base to one starting from a pre-existing 'seven/eight digit number' to sell to. That's either really poor maths. Or just disingenuous...
Third party sales for the Xbox 360 since the launch of the Wii and PS3 is 54,065,728 units, still almost double the Wii's 33,394,311 units. Third party sales for the Xbox 360 since the launch of the Wii and PS3 is 54,065,728 units, still almost double the Wii's 33,394,311 units.
The Wii does sell 3rd party games. Live with it, but most of them are just casual minigames.
But it has to sell more than hundred to count.
That's all we can come up with and rely on since we don't have any first party studios.