One of the questions that's worth asking is does this move matter at all to Sony and its PS4?
The endings of Mass Effect Andromeda and Horizon Zero Dawn are equally important, however, they turn out to be far different in how they satisfy or don't satisfy gamers.
Essentially ME fails because of mismanagement and forcing them to switch to Frostbite halfway through. The employees were not happy and were often me confused due to infighting. ZD has more time, a familiar engine and less pressure from the publisher.
I don't understand why publishers don't see the profit value of patience. They are so quick to make a buck that the shot themselves in the foot.
Considering the engine for HZD was crafted by Guerilla and Sony studios it probably made development considerably easier.
I also don't know a game where the devs have switched engine and the game was good/no glitches from the beginning.
isn't it harder to craft your own engine than to use an already established one?
@sampson
Crafting you own engine will prolong the development process but the engine will be made specifically for the game you want to make. Frostbite is a great engine but is rarely used for open world games. Guerilla crafted an engine specially for their needs making developing their games easier and far more detailed than if they used some stock engine like Unreal. It would have worked but I doubt we would have gotten the same game.
@sampson3121
Crafting a graphics engine is very hard and requires time and especially money.
It is so much more efficient and cheaper to use an established engine from the get go although to switch half way through a project from one graphics engine to another is tantamount to suicide.
Two graphic engines that are very popular with novices and professionals alike are the "Unreal engine" and "Unity" and you can see an inter-comparison here https://www.youtube.com/wat...
To learn more try the following searches "graphics engines comparison" and "graphics engines".
Kojima helped out with the Decima engine, he's mentioned in the end credits of H:ZD, and he's using it in Death Stranding
Talent is one point
but more importantly is less control from the investors and more freedom for the developers
EA, Ubisoft, Activision, .... have talented developers but they have less freedom and the result incomplete games
The parts of Andromeda that I enjoyed I enjoyed immensely (the combat, Vetra and Drack), but Horizon was enjoyable throughout the entire game, and is the only game I've ever bothered to platinum even though trophies are stupid, since nearly everything involved content and not arbitrary junk (like most trophies for other games).
Here's two of the many things:
1. Good management
2. Fully staffed developing teams
E3 is now out of the way and Gamescom 2017 stares gaming straight in the eyes. Perhaps some bigger news will come to the show versus what we saw at E3 2017?
We have a rep in Germany who usually goes and she opted out this year. Said it had become too crowded and mainly a recap of what was already covered. She also had an issue with people from a certain area pushing in on meetings and loudly demanding they get press access and go first even though they did not have a meeting.
Eastern Europe she said. Remember most U.S. based media has E3 and the PAX Shows as well as the Gamestop Expo. No need to go all the way to Germany to get what you had at E3 and will get at PAX. The other issue is that many of the reps there are for Europe only so when she meets people we cannot work with them as the two main offices are in the U.S. so again its kind of an ok lets see more of what we already covered and will be covering at Quakecon, PAX West, and the Gamestop Expo. Not to mention the PSX.
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You don't think they can change their mind? Sony might not but MS has shown they can change their stance on something if they think it can benefit them.
Would it be worth it though?
I doubt it.
What's the point? They are no new gen
@darthv72 So can you explain how it could possibly "benefit them" to build an XboneX game from the ground up, with GDDR5 architecture in mind (like a standard PS4 game) and then release it to a measly install base of about 2 million people?
In what reality would that benefit a huge corporation trying to make a profit from a project?
I should point out I am very aware that you have been saying since the "Scorpio's" reveal last year that they will most certainly not be releasing games on standard Xbone even when Microsoft made it very clear during its announcement at E3 2016 that the 2 consoles WILL be sharing the same games.
Even after E3 2017 you are still adamant that they are going to flip a switch and screw over 20 or so million gamers, especially the ones that bought a standard Xbone since Scorpio's announcement because their minds were put at ease that the console wouldn't be abandoned.
I don't think its going to happen mate no matter how badly you want it to. :)
Xbox is like the DCEU of gaming, Sony is like the MCU of gaming, and Nintendo is like the X-Men Cinematic Universe of gaming
Nah, all cinematic comic universes are crap. Most have no story and people talking in theatric low voices the entire damn time to hide the fact there is no story or characterization. That and explosions but no plot. A few exceptions like Spidey 1-3 and Dark Knight Trilogy, most everything else is crap though, and gaming has far surpassed it. You can't tell me the generic "disarm the weapon threatening the city" plot hasn't been used in damn near everything as well as the "lets get as many low-voiced characters together again to fight off aliens/mythical monsters" hasn't been used as well. They hardly stray towards any real thematics, and when they do it's shallow, just theatrics because they're damn hollywood and lazy.
I guess the analogy went over at least 6 users' and Omnislash's heads so I'll have to explain. Sony is like the MCU, a dominant force this gen where they keep releasing top titles and mostly receive the sales to match, obviously have by far the highest percentage of consoles sold this gen compared to the competition, and have more gigantic IP games to come. Xbox is like the DCEU, mediocre, went on the rinse/repeat IP route like DCEU went on the rinse/repeat Batman/Superman movie route, because of major mistakes from the start of the gen they have got utterly battered by Sony and every time Xbox tries to get space for hype, Sony shanks them with a top title to kill their hype (in the most recent case, Horizon Zero Dawn Frozen Wilds announced to be releasing on November 7th). Nintendo is like the X-Men Cinematic Universe, mostly releasing bang average typical 'Nintendo-esque' titles but releasing outstanding titles like Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon.
@Omnislash
I stopped taking your comment seriously when you specifically mentioned 'Spidey... 3' and 'Dark Knight Rises' as exceptions, they were terrible ( Spider-Man 3 was not Amazing Spider-Man 2 levels of terrible, but that film made a mockery of the first two films, Raimi did it in revenge to terrible decisions from the higher ups and it showed. Dark Knight Rises was also shoddy, the weakest out of the trilogy by far). Yes the DCEU is 'crap' (at least the MCU makes the attempt to put out great films and it shows in the reputation they've built up and box office takings for each film they release), but tbf if you change up certain words in your comment like changing 'aliens/mythical monsters' to 'evil motoring overlords' or 'alien robots', then you would have described the Fast and Furious and Transformers movie universes (Transformers 5 is easily the second worst film of this year so far next to that Emoji film, I watched them for free online and still felt ripped off).
Good point. If I changed 'aliens/mythical monsters' to 'evil motoring overlords' or 'alien robots' I'd find the exact same amount of crap in Fast in Furious or Transformers.
probably not. but if it turns out to be something of a system seller, they might take it more seriously. and try to copy, if it is possible with the hardware that is.
i do not consider psnow as an attempt at BC.
Since Sony has expressed that backwards compatibility is not possible on the PS4, I doubt this matters at all.
It's great news for MS gamers though.
BC is nice but I don't play games I brought 6 months ago let alone 2 or more years old.
Sony will come out with bc for ps1 and ps2 games so thatl be cool. Unfortunately because of the cell ps3 bc is not possible but its al good still a great console.
Not really! i liked it back on PS3 when i was able to play my old PS1 and PS2 games on it, but i moved on from and would careless about that feature. However if so they do bring BC to the PS4, it'll probrably be for only PS1 and PS2 games to play, PS3 on the other hand won't happen due to the cell of the PS3 is.