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Analysts talk whether or not Xbox One Backwards Compatibility kills remasters

Microsoft has developed Rare Replay, Gears of War: Ultimate Edition and Halo: The Master Chief Collection, all of which have brought old games onto the Xbox One platform, but will remasters die as a result of Backwards Compatibility?

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madmonkey013510d ago (Edited 3510d ago )

i like some remasters like last of us and uncharted collection, or the recent resident evil remake. but mostly not fussed about revisiting old games in remaster or BC, i still have all the previous iterations of playstations and other older hardware anyway if i really felt an urge to play something old.

Persistantthug3510d ago

I don't have an XBOX One, but I have to admit that it's a very cool feature.
This generation, Microsoft is delivering alot of features.....I have to concede that if I'm being honest.

Lucreto3510d ago

It won't really affect any Remasters.

If a company wanted to remaster a game they have 30 million PS4 gamers and 16 or so million Xbox players to choose from. Publishers could potentially but unlikely make the remaster on PS4 and use backwards compatibility on the Xbox.

nitus103510d ago

A remaster makes money for the developer and publisher. Backwards compatibility makes little if any additional money for the developer and publisher.

Backwards compatibility is great for getting people who have a previous generation console with games to make the switch. Sure there would be some who brought a new BC console who buy a last generation game but in most cases it would be a second hand one.

As I have said before BC is a system seller at the start of a new console generation however after two years in it is a great feature but only a system seller for those players who still have their old consoles with games.

rainslacker3510d ago

In the digital age BC can see sales for the publishers. It may not be top of the line, buy a yacht with the proceed sales, but it's a revenue stream which doesn't cost anything to implement. Just sell the game digitally, collect revenue. People that buy the used game, download it for BC consumption, the publisher isn't really losing out, because there is nothing to say someone would buy it for a lot.

A remaster though is likely to be fairly inexpensive to make, and since it's likely to have a retail presence, and the limelight with marketing for digital purchases as well, they'll pretty much sell for nostalgia's sake, and help to bring in new people to the IP.

The dirty truth is is that the BC is mostly good for those that own the game, and have no problem playing them in their original format. Remasters are for those that liked the game to begin with, want to experience it, and for new customers.

Overall though, I'd prefer to see fewer remasters of prior gen games simply due to the fact that there isn't a huge generational leap from last gen to this one. I mean things like GOW3 PS3->PS4 were not that significant, where as the remasters of the PS2/PSP->PS3 games were quite significant, hence more hype between them....not to mention better value.

Masterchief_thegoat3510d ago

I prefer bc but some remaster is cool

Black0ut3510d ago

IMO it doesn't. Honestly its better for the companies that allow BC because more gamers will get back into their games thus showing more interest in a remaster when it comes. I say that BC is only a positive for the gaming industry as a whole.

Bigpappy3510d ago

No it doesn't. If they think a game could have been better if the tech were better, then they should go ahead and remaster. but if they are using remasters just to resell games to gamers just so they get to play said game on the new console, then I will stick wit BC. I only bought 1 remake (TR) and that was because I had never played it before.

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Where Horizon Zero Dawn Succeeded Greatly & Mass Effect Andromeda Failed Miserably

The endings of Mass Effect Andromeda and Horizon Zero Dawn are equally important, however, they turn out to be far different in how they satisfy or don't satisfy gamers.

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Eonjay2873d ago

Essentially ME fails because of mismanagement and forcing them to switch to Frostbite halfway through. The employees were not happy and were often me confused due to infighting. ZD has more time, a familiar engine and less pressure from the publisher.

I don't understand why publishers don't see the profit value of patience. They are so quick to make a buck that the shot themselves in the foot.

Rimeskeem2873d ago

Considering the engine for HZD was crafted by Guerilla and Sony studios it probably made development considerably easier.

I also don't know a game where the devs have switched engine and the game was good/no glitches from the beginning.

sampson31212873d ago (Edited 2873d ago )

isn't it harder to craft your own engine than to use an already established one?

Rimeskeem2873d ago (Edited 2873d ago )

@sampson

Crafting you own engine will prolong the development process but the engine will be made specifically for the game you want to make. Frostbite is a great engine but is rarely used for open world games. Guerilla crafted an engine specially for their needs making developing their games easier and far more detailed than if they used some stock engine like Unreal. It would have worked but I doubt we would have gotten the same game.

nitus102873d ago (Edited 2873d ago )

@sampson3121

Crafting a graphics engine is very hard and requires time and especially money.

It is so much more efficient and cheaper to use an established engine from the get go although to switch half way through a project from one graphics engine to another is tantamount to suicide.

Two graphic engines that are very popular with novices and professionals alike are the "Unreal engine" and "Unity" and you can see an inter-comparison here https://www.youtube.com/wat...

To learn more try the following searches "graphics engines comparison" and "graphics engines".

RommyReigns2873d ago

Kojima helped out with the Decima engine, he's mentioned in the end credits of H:ZD, and he's using it in Death Stranding

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UCForce2873d ago (Edited 2873d ago )

You're goddamn right.

SaveFerris2873d ago

Guerrilla Games are arguably more talented than the team at Bioware Montreal.

KTF262873d ago

Talent is one point
but more importantly is less control from the investors and more freedom for the developers

EA, Ubisoft, Activision, .... have talented developers but they have less freedom and the result incomplete games

aaronaton2873d ago

arguably? Noone at bioware would get a job at GG.

Servbot412873d ago

The parts of Andromeda that I enjoyed I enjoyed immensely (the combat, Vetra and Drack), but Horizon was enjoyable throughout the entire game, and is the only game I've ever bothered to platinum even though trophies are stupid, since nearly everything involved content and not arbitrary junk (like most trophies for other games).

Pancit_Canton2873d ago

Bioware are trying to cater the 1% of the population.

ifrit_caress2873d ago

Here's two of the many things:
1. Good management
2. Fully staffed developing teams

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Analyst Hopes Gamescom 2017 Will Have More Software 'Sizzle' Compared to E3 2017

E3 is now out of the way and Gamescom 2017 stares gaming straight in the eyes. Perhaps some bigger news will come to the show versus what we saw at E3 2017?

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Garethvk2875d ago

We have a rep in Germany who usually goes and she opted out this year. Said it had become too crowded and mainly a recap of what was already covered. She also had an issue with people from a certain area pushing in on meetings and loudly demanding they get press access and go first even though they did not have a meeting.

Garethvk2875d ago (Edited 2875d ago )

Eastern Europe she said. Remember most U.S. based media has E3 and the PAX Shows as well as the Gamestop Expo. No need to go all the way to Germany to get what you had at E3 and will get at PAX. The other issue is that many of the reps there are for Europe only so when she meets people we cannot work with them as the two main offices are in the U.S. so again its kind of an ok lets see more of what we already covered and will be covering at Quakecon, PAX West, and the Gamestop Expo. Not to mention the PSX.

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Will Xbox One X or PS4 Pro Ever Receive Exclusive Games?

Assuming install bases become large enough for both, will we ever see exclusive games released for Xbox One X or PS4 Pro? Industry analyst Michael Goodman weighs in on the topic.

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2pacalypsenow2876d ago

Both Sony and MS said no, so no

darthv722876d ago

You don't think they can change their mind? Sony might not but MS has shown they can change their stance on something if they think it can benefit them.

OB1Biker2876d ago (Edited 2876d ago )

Would it be worth it though?
I doubt it.
What's the point? They are no new gen

k2d2876d ago

The Last of Us 2; it'll probably cater to ps4 pro and ps5.

andrewsquall2876d ago

@darthv72 So can you explain how it could possibly "benefit them" to build an XboneX game from the ground up, with GDDR5 architecture in mind (like a standard PS4 game) and then release it to a measly install base of about 2 million people?
In what reality would that benefit a huge corporation trying to make a profit from a project?

I should point out I am very aware that you have been saying since the "Scorpio's" reveal last year that they will most certainly not be releasing games on standard Xbone even when Microsoft made it very clear during its announcement at E3 2016 that the 2 consoles WILL be sharing the same games.
Even after E3 2017 you are still adamant that they are going to flip a switch and screw over 20 or so million gamers, especially the ones that bought a standard Xbone since Scorpio's announcement because their minds were put at ease that the console wouldn't be abandoned.

I don't think its going to happen mate no matter how badly you want it to. :)

RommyReigns2876d ago

Xbox is like the DCEU of gaming, Sony is like the MCU of gaming, and Nintendo is like the X-Men Cinematic Universe of gaming

Omnislashver362876d ago (Edited 2876d ago )

Nah, all cinematic comic universes are crap. Most have no story and people talking in theatric low voices the entire damn time to hide the fact there is no story or characterization. That and explosions but no plot. A few exceptions like Spidey 1-3 and Dark Knight Trilogy, most everything else is crap though, and gaming has far surpassed it. You can't tell me the generic "disarm the weapon threatening the city" plot hasn't been used in damn near everything as well as the "lets get as many low-voiced characters together again to fight off aliens/mythical monsters" hasn't been used as well. They hardly stray towards any real thematics, and when they do it's shallow, just theatrics because they're damn hollywood and lazy.

RommyReigns2876d ago (Edited 2876d ago )

I guess the analogy went over at least 6 users' and Omnislash's heads so I'll have to explain. Sony is like the MCU, a dominant force this gen where they keep releasing top titles and mostly receive the sales to match, obviously have by far the highest percentage of consoles sold this gen compared to the competition, and have more gigantic IP games to come. Xbox is like the DCEU, mediocre, went on the rinse/repeat IP route like DCEU went on the rinse/repeat Batman/Superman movie route, because of major mistakes from the start of the gen they have got utterly battered by Sony and every time Xbox tries to get space for hype, Sony shanks them with a top title to kill their hype (in the most recent case, Horizon Zero Dawn Frozen Wilds announced to be releasing on November 7th). Nintendo is like the X-Men Cinematic Universe, mostly releasing bang average typical 'Nintendo-esque' titles but releasing outstanding titles like Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon.

@Omnislash

I stopped taking your comment seriously when you specifically mentioned 'Spidey... 3' and 'Dark Knight Rises' as exceptions, they were terrible ( Spider-Man 3 was not Amazing Spider-Man 2 levels of terrible, but that film made a mockery of the first two films, Raimi did it in revenge to terrible decisions from the higher ups and it showed. Dark Knight Rises was also shoddy, the weakest out of the trilogy by far). Yes the DCEU is 'crap' (at least the MCU makes the attempt to put out great films and it shows in the reputation they've built up and box office takings for each film they release), but tbf if you change up certain words in your comment like changing 'aliens/mythical monsters' to 'evil motoring overlords' or 'alien robots', then you would have described the Fast and Furious and Transformers movie universes (Transformers 5 is easily the second worst film of this year so far next to that Emoji film, I watched them for free online and still felt ripped off).

Omnislashver362876d ago (Edited 2876d ago )

Good point. If I changed 'aliens/mythical monsters' to 'evil motoring overlords' or 'alien robots' I'd find the exact same amount of crap in Fast in Furious or Transformers.

Brave_Losers_Unite2876d ago

That would be stupid and just piss people off

ziggurcat2876d ago

no. they've said no countless times.

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