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So DriveClub Bikes is a very pleasant surprise, another fascinating chapter in the exceptional turnaround of Evolution's game. Don't expect it to change any of the fundamentals - multiplayer races are still overly aggressive, and the progression system still feels stunted and dumb - but do expect to see the work of a developer that's now firing on all cylinders. I can't wait to see what they do next.
"I personally don’t like the phrase “stand-alone DLC”. Not because of the actual meaning of it, but because I think there’s a negative stigma that surrounds it." -- PlayStation Enthusiast
There's nothing wrong with stand-alone DLC, and nothing negative comes from it.
As the article points out, inFamous: First Light and Uncharted: The Lost Legacy are available on disc too, which emphasises how Sony considers them. I'm sure Horizon Zero Dawn: The Frozen Wilds will be a $40 disc release too.
The Lost Legacy is really pushing the standard though for what is considered as stand-alone DLC. It was just supposed to be a short expansion, and now it's a fully fledged 8-or-so hour game, like the Drake's Fortune. Great stuff.
Left behind is not one of the best games.
Combined with the story of the last of us it is. By itself it lacks the emotional impact and looses the novelty of gameplay changes in comparison to the main game. They belong together.
I could say the same about last light, minus the emotional impact.
All opinion, not fact. No use in getting upset 'cause you may not agree, I'd love to hear how I'm wrong though... In a civil manor.
That's true. Without the foundation it flounders. It doesn't make it any less good, but the main story IS essential.
*Lost Legacy may be the exception. I like me some Chloe, but I certainly don't have an emotional attachment to the character, like I do with some others.
Hmm you make a decent point but...You say its great combined with story of the last of us but then say it lacks the emotional impact and looses the novelty of gameplay to the main game. If you have never played the main game you don't know it lacks the impact and the novelty of the gameplay wouldn't be lost. Taken on its own it should still be great because it does those things just not to such a degree as in the main game...
Uh what? I personally haven't encountered this negative stigma you are referring to.
TLoU is one of my favorite games of all time, but I didn't really like Left Behind that much. I know that's an unpopular opinion, but I dunno, I thought the best thing about TLoU was the Ellie and Joel dynamic, and after playing through the game, and going to a DLC without Joel, just felt like a downgrade to me personally. I didn't think Ellie stood that well on her own. Maybe I'd feel the same way about a Joel solo experience as well, I dunno. There were parts of the game without Ellie and without Joel, but they were part of your goal, whereas there was a complete disconnect with the DLC. I understand that most people love it, and that's great, but just didn't enjoy it that much personally.
Its a nice trend giving single player fans more of what they want plus the value is amazing. You get a full game for dlc price. I'd rather drop 39.99 on an 8 to 10 hour campaign than a few map packs. I just picked up killzone intercept for like 5.99 can't wait to play it. That midyear sale is fantastic! So many good games dirt cheap.
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To bad most racing games are just drive around in a city and race instead of being a proper arcade racer like blur and burnout revenge .
Agree, NFS used to be all Arcade . now as you said driving around in a city. Nooooo one hardly to race with just driving around wasting time drifting.
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Lounge to Le Mans in just 10 months for Nissan racer – video
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Winner of 2014 GT Academy to race at 2015 Le Mans 24 Hours
Le Mans, France – In 2011, after three years of racing, Lucas Ordonez became the first GT Academy winner to compete at Le Mans.
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Driveclub director, Paul Rustchynsky, confirmed to fans on Twitter that neither versions of Driveclub will support the Playstation 4 Pro.
A LOT of games will not be patched.. I have yet to get a PS4... I'm just simply at this point looking to get the old fat one on a cheap price and be done with all this.
Or just buy the pro and play the future games that will take advantage of the Pro's extra power?
It's not mega power it's an upgrade to upscale Playstation games.
You really think 4.18 TFLOP is going to provide you mind blowing stuff then get ready for shattered dreams.
@Artemidorus
I've been blown away by OG PS4 games, so I think I'll be good with more than double the GPU power.
which games will take advantage of the pro's power? that's where the messaging goes flat and driveclub wont be one of them.
@Artemidorus i think you mistaken what you said will be true about the scorpio when that comes out it will show very little difference between it and PS4 Pro
The studio is defunct, why would anyone in their right mind think that their games would be upgraded to PS4 Pro?
Save yourself a couple bucks and buy the older PS4 when everyone unloads and you can get a good deal.
Money is better spent on the console that will see a much bigger difference in power, Xbox One -> Scorpio, and still be faster than the Pro, and will be able to utilize your new 4K TV with higher resolution games and UHD playback.
Or just get a Scorpio and be done with Sony. The whole DriveClub debacle is a slap in the face, and then Sony goes out and bars EA Access, prevents cross-play with Xbox, and prevents mods (like on Fallout 4) while raising the cost of PS+.
Now Sony won't even bother supporting their own new console, PS4 Pro. Sony truly didn't leave PS4 Slim/Standard user behind, they instead gimped PS4 Pro. I guess you get what you pay for.
Vote with your wallet people! Vote with your wallet! #4theplayers
@donthate...isn't your name cynical? Just saying.
Exactly. Vote with your wallet. Nothing wrong with the existing PS4 and a great opportunity getting into it when more used boxes will become available. And while the PS4 pro won't see immediate massive upgrades (it still runs current games faster and more stable, user interface and all that will benefit from the 500MHz clock upgrade also), framerate will be more stable, and dynamic resolution scaling will probably always reach to full 1080p (while there aren't really a lot of games out which do that) - without patching any games. And that for roughly $50 more if you are in a market for a new machine. Just add a 1TB drive to the entry level PS4 (or XB1S) and you would totally miss out on that for JUST $50 more. 500GB runs out fast, I wonder if I should upgrade my standard or just trade it in against a Pro. It does not have any negatives vs. the Standard model, but it will only get the benefits in the long run. Scorpio is a year out. If you guys are lucky. the Pro will prepare a 4K market by then so you will actually have games to play on that machine. Or are you saying by some magic, the Scorpio will all of a sudden run existing XB1 games with new feature without patching?
@ Artemidorus
The ones who's dreams are going to be shattered by the reality of Scorpio are going to be the ones putting all stock into it 12+ months ahead of time (based on a single number and PR claims), and the same ones that believed in the lies of cloud processing and DirectX 12 to save the XB1 from inferior experiences. Sony's hardware-based checkerboard rendering method is going to bring the image quality of upscaled 4K so close to native that it's going to be painful. Just like it's painfully cringeworthy to look back on the embarrassments that argued "the power of the cloud", DX12 and hidden GPU secret sauce.
But I'm probably not going to have a 4K screen so I won't care and will continue to play amazing looking supersampled 1080p games, with richer scene detail and improved frame rates.
People can boast 4K all they want, but who didn't have a 1080p screen in 2013?
Can't say the same about 4KTVs.
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@ Donthate
Damn.... the PS4 Pro really is exposing the Xbox fanboys and undercover shills like nothing else. Lack of an EA vault, mods and cross-play that XB1 is not going to get anyway, is definitely going to annoy the small percentage of gamers that ACTUALLY care about it, to switch to Scorpio.
Honestly, what you gonna bring up next? Lack of a non-gaming UHD Blu-ray drive? How about things like, you know, GAMES.... the things that Sony has more of and that are better?
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@ moldybread
King Disingenuous Liar is back. Aside from the bunch of games Sony has announced, and the mandate for PS4 Pro games from October onwards..... the messaging for PS4 Pro is stronger and more honest than Scorpio's that's for sure. The flip-flopping executives of Xbox have talked about "uncompromised 4K", whilst saying that not all games will be 60fps (which is a compromise), whilst committing all their first-party games to native 4K over higher-detail and better frame rates (the things they claimed to value more before Scorpio was announced), and thus third-party devs will experience compromise too. Xbox as usual, has way worse mixed messaging, but you're not bothered about talking about it. You'd rather throw shade at Sony.
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You will want a 1TB at least, a Slim or old model with 1TB is $350/€350, for only 50 more you have the Pro...
All future games will have patches and older games still might get them anyways...
I'm about to put mine on ebay for 200$. Seeing that I will be upgrading to the pro. If interested PM me.
Ok, so let me get this straight. All of the PS4 games will in fact play on the PS4 Pro, but unless all these developers patch the games to take advantage of the PS4 Pro 4K upscaling and HDR10 support, all the games will still run and look just the original PS4 version. Is this correct? Is this what Evo Studios are talking about. They won't patch their DriveClub or DriveClub VR game to take advantage of all the PS4 extra features and horsepower? That's totally screwed for Sony if it's only a few of their 1st party titles that are getting patched.
Why would devs want that? For games which still sell this makes sense, but for games which reached their sweetspot in sales (= they aren't really selling any more) means, developers have to put work in those games without getting compensated. Or are you telling me, you'd pay for a Pro patch?
I do expect older games will still run slightly better. If they are unlocked, they will run a higher framerate. If they use some dynamic resolution scaling (which would dip below 1920 pix per line), those games will most likely never dip. Not a massive upgrade, but it will still make it more stable. BF will be close to stable 60fps, for example.
So, if you are in for a new machine, there is really no reason not to get that model.
Wii U was "twice the power" of PS3 and yet, for all intents and purposes, they look pretty close to the same. "Twice the power" is paltry. 10x-20x.... That's when it'll start blowing you away.
There goes the hype for Driveclub running FULL EFFECT on PS4PRO :(
Respect for Paul and his team. They slip a bit at first then work very hard on Driveclub to make on of the best racing games of this generation.
seeing as how the studio is defunct, i don't see how/why they would be able to work on something new for this game...
Sony owns the IP...
@Ziggur Sony can just pass it off to another studio.
Dude, did you even read this article?
The studio was defunct and still working on Driveclub VR. The creative director of DC said they would do the work but Sony hasn't asked.
It was a question that was also an answer. One of those, who do you think would make it, the same people making the VR version
PS Pro was just announced not too long ago... There are many games released already that I don't think they will all get patched either. Maybe only the most relevants will. Besides, Evolution was closed down. They should look for who would do the enhancement first
It is still possible, but like Paul said "they haven't been asked to do it yet," Propably because all the focus is being put in DC VR atm. Now Driveclub in HDR and 4k upscaled should look fkin outstanding, or maybe make the fps 60?
The VR version is not getting PS4 Pro support...it's launching in October.
It's not happening unless we demand it.
I'd rather have a new motorstorm. Preferably back on an island or the desert. I'd accept a forest.
I‘m still pissed about what happened with Evolution, Driveclub could be a great franchise with many sequels, we could have another Motorstorm too. But lets make another deal for multiplats like NMS and Everybody‘ Gone to the Rapture, right Sony?
Right! Let's also keep making more games with the other 11 studios they still have :×
Because having a 12th would have been too much? EVO didn't deserve to be closed after one bad launch. It would be interesting to see where Sony would be today if fans had a voice instead of blindly following every misstep.
No one bought the game enough to keep the studio alive. Everyone opt for the free version and touted it was the best racing game but never supported it and bought the full version.
Truth.
For example. Look at No Man Sky. Not the greatest game, but was hyped and sold at $60. Made tons of money and company is still up and running.
Like @imalwaysright said.
Fans are the ones who critique sonys actions and demand better.
All the others are like you said, blind sheep.
@voodoo.
2 different cases here.
i bought drive club, yes some people waited for the free one.
Hello Games isn't owned by anyone, if they closed shop it would have been at their own dicision, not sony's
Lol at Death spewing troll comments on everything Sony related.
Maybe if you Microsoft fans didn't allow Microsoft to bend them over so much without speaking up they'd perhaps have a chance of outselling the PS4.
lol people act like Sony closed the studio to put them on punishment. Sony doesn't exactly have endless funds laying around, and sometimes decisions have to be made to fit their financial responsibility. If you want to fund them, I'm sure they'd be willing to entertain your proposal.
Ah yes.... Good old Death - the fanboy who pretends he's not.
Downplays Microsoft closing Lionhead Studio, where the staff didn't even know about their job losses or the studio closure until it was publicly announced it for everyone on the Internet to see. Those guys didn't deserve that treatment or for their game to be cancelled for nobody to be able to play it outside of beta trials. But... Microsoft.
Yet.... Talks about Sony closing Evolution Studios after one bad launch, even though Sony gave them plenty of notice for their redundancies and respectfully ensured that the whole team could go on in tact with the same company name and culture over at Codemasters, and make amazing racing games together again, on all platforms. Sometimes things don't work out, but there's a right way and a wrong way to handle closures.
And there's a clear cut way in which Microsoft handles things, compared to Sony. One is respectable and the other is despicable and rancid. You only have to look at their recent history, including things like expectations put on the developers of Phantom Dust and the ongoing Lionhead treatment.
Really, you even had the gall to LIE about the DriveClub VR project being cancelled despite no evidence supporting it. What does that say about you or the validity of what you go around saying about Sony and their direction? Not much in all honesty.
Would be interesting to see where Microsoft would be today if they let their studios make new IPs and trust in their vision over a number of years. You know... instead of closing down 8 of them earlier this year in one foul swoop and thus having the fewest first-party studios they've had in years. That is better for the Xbox brand though...... right?
What about all those delays of first-party Xbox games, that Sony gets all the attention for, but Xbox fanboys ignore in their own back yard? What about all the failed new IP this gen at the hands of Microsoft? What about the pre-requisite of being an Xbox fan in 2016, and having wait 10 months for a quality AAA exclusive to hit their box?
Seems like Xbox fans - like you Death - go blind for these things, and many would rather boast about a console they aren't close to knowing even a fraction about yet, and a non-gaming Blu-ray drive that makes use of a TV they didn't care about having until Microsoft told them it was the future, about 15 months ahead of time.
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@ Death (continued)
MotorStorm Apocalypse also had a poor & unfortunate launch too in 2011, and didn't do well for Sony.
MotorStorm RC's reception might be worth questioning too.
This is not "one bad launch", but why am I not surprised to see you pretending it is?
DriveClub VR wasn't reported by anyone that would have actually had a source. I thought you pride yourself on that. Usually you are the one to try and outsmart others by digging up facts and links, so that's not convincing of an excuse you've used either. You made it up yourself and/or spread a lie that was nowhere confirmed.
The rest of my post (of course) you don't wish to address, but deflect on me, because you know it's all true and yet you don't want to admit it, or expose the double standards of the Xbox fanboys that you love to defend. Reminds me of Gangsta_red, cause that's exactly what he does too. Focus on what you think you can outsmart, and ignore the rest and make the argument about good ol' DR, rather than your own disingenuousness.
@DR,
The closure of both studios sucked. EVO shouldn't have been closed after one bad launch no matter how you want to spin it. The launch of DC was horrible, but I don't regret buying the game. DC:VR was reported as being cancelled, not something I "made up". Glad to see its coming out.
The rest of your post is typical DR. Thanks for the reply.
They used the money that could have kept evolution open to pay for call of duty early map packs and exclusive destiny strikes.
Pacific Rift is still one of the best racing games on PS3. I'd love a new Motorstorm game
Well on the positive side, this kind put those Pro is needed for VR crap to rest. We've heard nothing but good things about this game and the whole time it's been running on OG PS4s.
Now the rest of you can complain about this article...haha. It's Friday and I'm tired of all the doom and gloom all the time. Happy Friday people!!
I am very much enjoying drive club bikes
as someone who rides I'll see how close they get with this.
Need for Speed is better
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Disagree with the headline assessment, the original cars are more fun than the bike expansion imo.
Bikes needed to include crashes, the reset-to-track harks back to the complaints people had about the penalty system. I want to see my rider fly through the air ragdoll style (in first or third person).
Tis not bad for £12 though.
Bikes are indeed more fun , thanks Evo , it is great.