Bethesda’s Pete Hines "Upset" With Fallout 4 Leaks; Says You Better Experience It Yourself

Bethesda's vice president Pete Hines expresses to be "upset" with the massive Fallout 4 leaks. Players better experience the game themselves. When asked about it, Hines added that it's like watching someone else opening your Christmas presents in November.

[BartMoons]

Dang, that damage control!

[VER1ON]

At least he's responding. Can't be said from all devs.

[Timesplitter14]

@SolidStoner
calm down

[Doodleburger]

Someone tell solidstoner that all the leaks we have right now are from the PS4 version. What a tard.

[dirkdady]

It's all retail leaks selling early or employees at stores. There is no way around it, Bethesda has to ship the games this week so they can sell next week.

[Grap]

Someone tell that turd the leaks are from ps4 version.

[nveenio]

@Doodleburger Some of the most recent leaks or video gameplay are Xbox One.

[UnHoly_One]

There is one way to avoid it, dirkdady, but a bunch of people would throw a fit if they ever actually did it.

Make the game digital only, at least at launch, then ship to stores later.

[SolidStoner]

I agree, I went over the top! :D

but still, my point was not only video gameplay leaks, you all know what Im talking about, that "torrent" word, and other share thingy's and easy file copy on PC, easy modding and easy access! and all that is a good thing! I would go nuts if I ever hear theres no PC version, but it sure helps alot for early leaks, all kind of, and also other inside information hidden inside files! I just want it to hold back a bit, get more fixes and it would be less spoilers at least..

[Mega24]

@SolidStoner

Um... are you actually slow in the head? All leaks are coming from Playstation Users. Why do you even have to bring PC into this mess, done by console users.

[thereapersson]

@Mega24

The recent 20 minute gameplay leak was from the Xbox One version.

[Mega24]

@thereapersson

Still, it has been a console issue, and he brought PC into it... and making wild accusations.

[ravinash]

It's sad when people spend years working on something to make as rich experience as possible and time everything to get the right amount of excitement running.
and then someone has to ruin it all by trying to be the clever jerk by leaking everything.

There are just people out there who want to take the limelight by being the first to broadcast this stuff.

personally I'm aiming to enjoy it the way it was intended, so I'm not looking at any more spoilers.

[Bigpappy]

He is right. I haven't seen any gameplay because I don't care to. It spoils newness of the game

[Kidmyst]

Like most games, I look at enought during development to decide if I am interested in the game and then ignore everything after that, the hype, gameplay footage, maybe I'll look at a few screens but for the most part I want to wow factor going into the game. not the "Oh, this part, yeah I remember seeing this part."

[Perjoss]

I love me some newness.

[Kombatologist]

Back in my day, we didn't have these fancy gameplay videos to gawk at -- we had magazines with low quality screenshots of games that usually weren't complete.

I also walked 5 miles to school in the snow.

[Gh05t]

What damage?

[DMgHalt]

Anyone who believes that these leaks are unintentional is an idiot. They do this for business marketing purposes to generate hype for their product.

[ravinash]

Who's marketing?
The people selling the game, or the people leeching off the release to promote their own websites?

[TekFan]

It's easy for him to say, he's probably been playing it for ages. People have been waiting for too long, they're just excited.

[VER1ON]

He is, a few weeks back he already said he was playing the game on PS4
for a while.

[dirkdady]

Why is he advertising that he is playing on the ps4. Not complaining but doesn't microsoft have a marketing deal where they have to only mention Xbox one? Actually has microsoft published a commercial for this game? I've seen their tomb raider ad which incidentally releases on the same day as fallout.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@dirk- MS has a deal with marketing with them...I don't think that has anything to do with the version he is personally playing.

I don't even get what that has to do with this.

[fattyuk]

No we havent been waiting too long - thats the thing!

its only been 5 months!!

i cant and wont ruin it for myself

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed. I can't take this complaints. If 5 months is "too long", they can't take any damn release window. I mean someone seriosuly has something wrong with them if they think its "too long" to wait 5 months, we wait YEARS for games many, many times.

Yet we live...

[ravinash]

A few weeks ago people were complaining that the period between the announcement and the release date was too short.

You just can't win.

[wesjanson99]

Damn!

[MasterCornholio]

"Experience it for yourself"

Translation

"Give me your money!!!!!!"

I'm sure it will be a very good game. However there's so many games that I haven't played that I don't know if I'll have time for FallOut 4. If the reviews are ludicrously good I'll buy the game.

[cartoonx1]

fallout is one game u cant put in ur backlog.

[MasterCornholio]

I haven't played the Witcher 3 or MGSV yet and I really want to. Those two games are excellent but I'll swap one of them out for FallOut 4 if the reviews convince me that it's better than those games.

[cartoonx1]

i think witcher 3 is amazing, story is very good too. cant say same for mgs/ its brilliant but gets a little repetitive? and boring? after some hours.

[Perjoss]

Exactly, if your pile of shame was like a queue at the store, Fallout 4 would be that huge guy that just pushes in front of everyone to buy some smokes and nobody wants to talk shit to him cos they too damn scared.

[TwoForce]

Dude, seriously ? He was kinda right about this. Ruin people suprise is not fun at all.

[MasterCornholio]

I know that. I was just fooling around.

No harm meant.

:)

I agree with anyone that its much better to play the game than to actually watch it.

Although i do watch streams when i want to get an idea of what a game is like especially when there´s no demo available.

[TwoForce]

@MasterCornholio the demo was such a good thing to have. It's let you try the game out before you buying it. Man, i miss that thing so much. If Fallout 4 had a deme, we would try the game out before buying it if we like it or not. Well, there are still demos today, but not too many.

[eddvdm]

I hear you, but at the same time the Reviews Scene overall has turned into something I can't rely on anymore, personally.

Which I one I decided to trust more?
·10+ sites which struggle to have more and more attention with most-then-not "spoilerish"or "flamish" titles, articles and reviews;
or
·the developer itself - which of course want to promote the game - but also passed 2+ years (in avg.) creating it?

Then we have Ubisoft, or EA - with more-usual-than-not ethic issues regarding PR in their history. But there, right there is the word that changes everything: HISTORY.

Both Bethesda's and Pete Hines'history tell me: trust them. And I really have no doubt this time that'll ignore almost every single review, leak, opinion and whatnot and will trust Bethesda, because of their history.

[BEASELY]

If you haven't played MGSV, Witcher, and now want to put Fallout 4 on a backlog - while posting on a video game forum - then, not to be snide, but - I don't know what you're doing as a gamer.

[wellard]

I'm in the same boat myself. I've just finished witcher 3 and started bloodborne, then it's mgs and fallout. I've been gaming for 31 years now but sadly work is encroaching more and more on my spare time. That doesn't make me any less of a gamer.

[MasterCornholio]

As a gamer im playing Red Alert 2, EverQuest, 3DS and Vita games while im away from my PS4.

I didnt buy The Witcher 3 at launch since it was such a mess on the PS4. But luckily they fixed that. As for MGSV well i have no way of playing it which is why i didnt buy it yet. Before i go back ill be buying The Witcher 3, MGSV and maybe Fallout 4.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed, if your not playing Witcher 3, MGSV or Fallout 4, I'm at a loss for words at why your currently gaming.

I don't even know what you might like, he could like AC or Call Of Duty, Mobas etc lol.

I mean...why even come on here to read such an article, those titles are HUGE Blockbusters, to not play them, to remain niche, thats ok but it also means his comment carries little weight.

So what he isn't playing it....he doesn't even play many, many games. No love lost by the team.

You don't need a review to tell you if Fallout 4 will be good.

Did you like Fallout 3 or New Vegas? That should answer if you'll like Fallout 4, to my understanding...the concept of Fallout didn't change with 4, its still an RPG, you still do a main quest and a bunch of side quest, its just more of what you love with Fallout.

I need no review to tell me if I'll like Fallout 4, its not a concept that changes enough for one to question every release besides Fallout 3, anything after if done in the format of 3 won't be that drastically different.

The concept remains, Fallout 4 just adds more things to the idea.

[ravinash]

Some of us work.

These games are also on my watch list but have yet to play.
But I did book two days off from work to play Fallout4.

[BEASELY]

I work 50 hour weeks and do hardwood flooring. Still find the time to play the biggest games of the year and not some junk from the previous year or a bunch of indies. Again, I just can't comprehend Fallout 4 + backlog.

[Chapter11]

You know, I kinda agree. They've shown nothing of the game outside of E3 and a couple of behind closed doors events. There's not spoiling anything, and then there's intentionally hiding your game.

Clearly Bethesda had no ill intentions, but how little they've shown of actual gameplay has been ridiculous. I don't think it's okay to market a game based on 20 minutes of footage and a big name and calling it a day, no matter how big or beloved that name is, or how good your games in the past have been. Imagine if EA did this with Medal of Honor, or Activision did with Call of Duty.

[ravinash]

20 minutes is a long time to show game play.

There is a balance between showing the game and leaving enough to allow the play to feel the excitement of discovering this stuff them selves. particularly if a big part of the game is exploring.

Plus they have shown many videos showing the mechanics of the game which not giving too much away about the game. don't forget the things like the special videos, demonstrations showing the graphics, conversations, weapon building, etc.
Plus Fallout shelter.
They have done loads to promote their game in new and interesting ways.

[Immorals]

Well I'm avoiding all footage. Coming out of the Vault in fallout 3 was one of my favourite moments in gaming and I'd rather experience these things myself!

[Hoffmann]

We have 2015. #dealwithit

[ravinash]

ignore all sites that try to ruin it #Dealtwithit

[spoonard]

Leaks don't mean anything if you don't look at them.

[VER1ON]

IN all honesty, the leaks didn't reveal anything bad. Even more hype towards launch. People are even hyped for the game's main menu at this point.

[raWfodog]

Exactly. In fact, I think its almost expected to have leaks with high-profile, highly anticipated games. It just takes a little self control in order to avoid spoiling anything for yourself.

[Kalebninja]

Well Bethesda could have at least given us more footage, there was barely anything and they complain when people tale it into their own hands. He should only be upset if the game is lacking in some form and he was hiding that.

[xPhearR3dx]

They actually gave us A LOT, it was just all at once at E3 instead of broken down into trailers. If you think about it, there was what? 40min of footage from E3? When big companies like, lets say Rockstar, announce their games we only get about 5 trailers or so and that's it.

And if you worked on something for 5+ years and a week before it released, people were leaking things that you want your fans to find and experience themselves, you'd be upset to. It's like telling your girl/wife what you got them for Christmas instead of letting them experience and find out themselves. I highly doubt their hiding anything that's lacking. Their track record is proof of that.

[VER1ON]

Not to mention Bioware and their Mass Effect. Think have been teasing for a few years now without actual reveals or new details.

[Tctczach]

Game companies don't owe you anything. Bethesda would have delayed it if they thought it was broken and would turn into Skyrim again. I like that they were going to keep a ton of content from us to be surprised by.

[Seafort]

They owe us a working game if they want us to buy their product.

Otherwise we get a refund for their shoddy work (on PC anyway).

[Activemessiah]

Why wasn't he ever upset about all the Buggy games Bethesda released... pretty sure everyone who bought it was.

[FrostXVenom]

Cant wait anymore,i hope they release it with less bugs....unlike previous Bethesda's OW RPG games.

[greenisthebest]

voiced voiced protagonist feature is a fail... i would like to see some acting but on leaks we can see that voice is ok but they stand almost still :/ even when he say sth "sarcastic" i dont get it bc i was still w8ing for loading animations ;p still i gonna play that greate game with fallout story hope its more that feel from fallout 1 and 2

[Simco876]

7 more days, I'm not looking at anything. I can wait a week.

[Antifan]

Why so butthurt, Bethesda. It's not like millions of people are gonna see these leaked pictures. Even so, it not going to change anyone's mind whether to buy it or not.

[Ken85]

I think its from an art and story prespective ya know? They set up this story and structure in the way that they wanted it to be presented. If you watch the coming out of the vault cutscene before you've every played it then when u do do it it loses alot of its effects.

[Dynasty2021]

Because it's slowing the hype train.

People are upset with the graphics, the terrible lip sync, the shoddy animations straight out of FO3, the conversation system is rubbish compared to others in the series, companion AI is terrible especially in path-finding etc

It's clear this isn't the masterpiece it should be, which is sad given how insanely good Skyrim was.

[esmittystud101]

Bethesda I think should be worried about a smooth launch. This should be there number one priority. If the leaks did anything, it maybe got someone more interested in the game, and they will purchase it now from before they may not have been.

Remember, it's all about the pre order sales now. This is what developers and publishers are wanting the most out of players now. Not only do they want you to purchase there product, but they want you to do before it comes out. Bonuses are involved in these numbers, thats why it matters so much.

[Relientk77]

I'm ignoring the leaks

[ziggurcat]

"Welp, I've seen some leaked images, so I'm not going to be buying this game anymore..."

- no one ever

[fattyuk]

its 8 days away, im not ruining it for myself!!!

[fattyuk]

lol how can anyone disagree with that oO

[Jrodthegod]

I would be "angry" as well...I hate the fact about fallout 4 leaks being seen. It should be released when it is said to come out.

[Thefreeman012]

What did they expect when they started handing out copies left and right???? When they shipped out all those pipboy editions and review copies

[Mega24]

Every Bethesda game I've played, I've took the blackout approach, and it feels so rewarding when you launch the game and see the magic for yourself. I can't really wait... Only 7 days 2 hours and 20 minutes left!!! http://fo4countdown.com/

[dragonopt1]

There will always be leaks with Disk based games. They get shipped to the stores early and employees can play them early. Only way to stop that is release your game digitally and lock the release to midnight.

[ZaWarudo]

Don't worry, i went on media blackout since the first leaks hit the web. This article is the only exception.

[jhpadilla]

There are things I really don't understand anymore.
I mean, there's always leaks, but that is just a fact (sad, sure)...

My point is: how is exactly how are we supposed to act towards games?
It seems that companies and their fans want:
- Get hyped.
- Pre-order.
- Buy without listening to any bad reviews or negative opinions before or after the games.
- Enjoy the game at all costs. If we complain about the game then shame on us for not appreciating the 'awesome' game, OR, we're idiots for buying a game we didn't have ANY idea we were NOT going to like!

Leaks exist, and you know what? Thank God for that! They give us a clearer picture of what's in store for us. Buying games is no longer just a kid's pastime. We're almost all adults here. With lives, jobs, families and responsibilities.
Gaming is our preferred pastime of choice, and we want to get our money's worth.

Unfortunately, nothing can be relied entirely to make the PERFECT decision about buying a game. So we have to wait and watch and read reviews, blogs, other opinions, and yes sometimes leaks, to make sure we're buying a worthy piece of entertainment for our money. Its not pretty but we need all of that, and even sometimes we still get a bad game sometimes.
Now that's were selling used games comes in, but that is another discussion.

[wraith4912]

He's just afraid someone will leak all the bugs and glitches before release.

[Maxor]

This game is probably filled to brim with bugs and issues that trailing all the way back to Fallout 3. Otherwise the devs wouldn't be so upset about leaks

[Scrivlar]

I totally agree with Mr Hines and I'm trying my best to avoid any leaks of any kind so that it's all seen and done for the first time when I play it. If they were leaked months ago I'd totally have given in but it's only a week now!