Microsoft India's director of interactive entertainment business talks everything Xbox-related.
Microsoft's current strategy with the Kinect is the complete opposite of what we witnessed during the Xbox 360 days.
It takes time to shine! X1 will eventually show its true colors. Either things will stay the same or like the Crackdown 3 demo "shake them haters off"!
It's taking along time to show its true colors. And don't even try to bring demo presentations after Kinect and Project Milo fiasco.
at above.
Exactly. Also, Crackdown 3 demo looks neat, but we still dont know much details about it... I mean it seems like it is taking a huge hit on hardware and resulting in weaker graphics.
This gen we have been chasing on secret sauce after another until nothing comes to fruition.
Just enjoy the great games coming out. instead of waiting secret sauce to shine...
A sentiment to be shared for all manufacturers right now. Given time, competition, and talent, we're all going to be some well taken care of gamers before we know it.
@beans. No haters here. We just see the truth, unlike you with your wishful thinking.
^^
Actually beans is right. The Xbox One has been showing more and more of its true colors since launch. It's almost a completely different system than it was at launch. Backward compatibility and an improved UI is happening this year alone. DX12 and the cloud will bring even more positive changes for gamers. Doesn't seem like wishful thinking to me...
My theory is that they put Kinect games on the shelf when they repackage the Xbox one without the Kinect. Why would they release games for the Kinect when a lot of the people were buying a Kinectless Xbox One? MS is now biding their time until people without a Kinect will feel more comfortable buying one and not feel burned for not buying the packaged Xbox One with Kinect. I say by next E3 we'll see some Kinect stuff. The user base will there for MS. This Xmas a lot of people are going to upgrade to this gen. Halo will help that.
@magiciandude
"The Xbox One has been showing more and more of its true colors since launch"
Actually, one could argue that XBOX 1's pre-launch showed more and more of MS true colors up until the actual release where they had to put some grey in the mix (pun fully intended) and essentially pull a 180 just in time to avoid total meltdown.
What benefits/improvements came after were actually side effects of MS's efforts trying to pick up the pieces of them showing too much of their true color palette at once.
Dont ever make the mistake of believing that they changed and that they 'love you long time'.
@beans as pointed out the Crackdown 3 shown was a tech demo and we need to see the real thing in the wild.
Here a PS4 tech demo to go with Crackdown - https://youtu.be/bYDBP947ec...
Both demos tell us what is potentially possible if NO trade-offs were made. But the reality is game development on any platform is *always* about trade-offs in the real world, before a final game ships.
The question is how few trade-offs you can get away with dependent on all the variables involved in shipping a game.
I don't think he knows what the word "phenomenal" means, because no phenomenon is happening with Kinect this generation, or making it desirable enough for people to choose that experience over the competition in any big way.
I get that it allows some extra non-gaming features for those that want that, but it would be good if there were still developers making games for it, in all honesty.
I'd like to see Microsoft try to make the Kinect relevant again. I still think the tech is conceptually very impressive, and if used properly could usher in new and exciting gameplay elements.
I wonder if there's a chance of Halo Wars 2 having some sort of Kinect optional functionality? That could be interesting.
It's hard to believe at this point that the Xbox One is actually beginning to build momentum against the PS4.
3 price cuts in less than 2 years helped. But they have changed a lot for the better in other ways too.
The crazy thing is that it could've been a lot worse but they changed everything before the console launched. On top of that add the fact that it dropped the price drastically and it's easy to see how they overcame the 2013 blunders. Just like the ps3 the Xbox one had bad unveiling but the difference is that Sony stood their ground. Wonder if the Xbox one would've been as successful if it would've done the same.
Yeah they really turned the Xbox around quite remarkably.
A lot of damage is done though and irreversible.
But the right thing happened. MS deserved it. Now I'm set to enjoy a brilliant gen
..minus the dlc fiascos and all the other toxic falafel trends.
Still waiting for Xbox One sexy AAA Exclusive JRPG, but Fanboys be like "Xbox One no need no JRPGs". If Xbox One don't start being inclusive with all developers, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Russian, Asian, African, South American, All. Xbox One ain't gonna beat PS4. JRPGs with Cloud Tech, Do it!
Sony stood their ground because they could due to brand strength and because of years of arrogance culture within the company. The Playstation brand is so strong due to domination in PS1 & PS2 era.
Even to this day, many people have fond memories of Playstation the same way Nintendo has. MS just got this to some degree with the Xbox 360.
In short though, if you look at the Xbox history, it is filled with a very agile practice filled with trying new things, pushing boundaries and innovation. MS really pushed console gaming industry forward in many positive ways even today with Xbox Live Cloud Compute initiative.
Unfortunately even with the turn around on Xbox One, the damage done by themselves and perpetuated by the media will weigh down MS this entire console generation.
MS is in a comfortable position right now and that is - 3rd party devs cannot ignore the existence of Xbox1 unlike Wii U.
Having said that i really don't see anything coming out for Xbox1 after 2016. Nothing has been announced for PS4 either but at least we know Sony has enough first party devs. MS cannot match the numbers and even if they do make games - will xbox community buy them if it's not shooters or racing games?
If MS is planning to sell as much as they can this Holiday and planning to see themselves through with the help of 3rd party games like in the last gen, then it's going to be tough because 3rd party games are looking better on PS4. And the generation has just begun.
MS has no great exclusives apart from GeOW, Halo and Forza. They have no more 3rd party advantage. They can't introduce new exclusives that are not shooters or racing titles successfully because the Xbox crowd don't buy them enough and very few ppl will want to buy xbox for an exclusive or two.
If i was an Xbox executive, i would be looking at these facts and be little worried about its future.
I had to laugh at the description,
"the Xbox One is actually beginning to build momentum against the PS4"
Soundso more like wishful thinking than facts
Sony didn't stand their ground they had big price cuts, a redesign, and removed features. Not only that the DS3 controller was pure junk. Especially when compared to the 360 controller.
All of that combined caused Sony to lose almost 50% market share. Just like MS mistakes have cost them the same.
@pope
PS3 outsold xbox 360 every month it was on the market worldwide. They made changes but what was a huge install issue was 360 being out a year to a year and half with 0000 zero competition. It still lost though.
Mixdup,
It's not that he said something negative....he laughed at the description which you even admit is incorrect it says against the ps4, you said against itself. So he is right to make his comment because the description is inaccurate. Nobody has to hold a comment for inaccurate information just for xbox sake.
@Blacktar
Thats funny if it was outselling it since day one why would they cut the price so fast and so many times (two total in a year) and release a slim within two? For fun? Out of love?
The PS4 fanboys have been trying to claim this since the beginning but its just not true.
Oh the Xbox lost. I suppose it only saw a 500% increase over the original xbox and sold basically the same number of consoles as the PS brand (taking 50% of the market share from them) which had been around for 10 years before the first xbox but sure if a few thousand more PS3 counts as a win. Its all yours. In real life its a MASSIVE win for the Xbox brand. But hey you don't live in real life. nor do most PS fanboys.
@pope the ps3 sold faster then the xbox 360 did <=== Fact
PS3 has more sales then xbox 360 lifetime with 1 yr less and 1.5 yrs less in EMEA<==== fact
So yea the ps3 was blown up in the media about being a bust etc. etc yet it's sold faster then the xbox one or at the same pace yet xbox one is what in a great spot? The xbox truly would have been lost in the dust if the ps3 released at the same time.
Also PS2 i believe in the same time frame only sold 20more million consoles year for year. The ps3 will probably hit 100million before it stops selling. THe xbox360 did not take 50% of the market share it took 50% of the market share int he USA and did so with a year head start. Anyways you throw around the fanboy title all the time, LOOK in the mirror for once.
@thepope
Please stop. I can't help but think you're trying to make Xbox sound like the OG Nintendo. Xbox isn't the savior to gaming.
@mixdup
You really live up to the name friend. What Heavy said is true. There's nothing wrong with stating the obvious around here. Of course, many won't like that but it's life
OT I think these articles are kind of funny. IMO the only reasons MS has helped their cause IS because of price cuts and backtracking. How many times do we need to be reminded of that stuff? Now for those that want to start arguing, yes Sony did drop the price of the PS3. They did what they had to do to sell systems against one that was already on the market AND cheaper. Some of the whistles were gone, but the bells were still there. It was still the cheapest BR player on the market at the time. It was still updated constantly. I honestly don't think if MS stood their ground they'd have half as many systems sold. People buy on price, sometimes solely on that. It tells a lot when Sony can sell as many PS3s at the price they did. X1 had to drop the price when it was already cheaper than the PS3 was
@shyronnie
WHy you lying dude? Sony never said they removed DRM from their presentation. That is 100% BS what they did say is they rewrote the preso to sound off on them not having it after MS shot themselves in the foot. I swear people just lie for no reason. It doesn't even hint at it as removing the DRM all it says is they rewrote it to pile on to the MS snafu.
You people.
http://ps4daily.com/2014/07...
@Famous
Created your account a day ago and have been trolling since then. You must have few N4G accounts by now.
Now in relation to the so called 3 price cuts?
Microsoft launched a X1 SKU with Kinect for 500€. Microsoft later on launched a X1 SKU without Kinect for 400€. Do you consider that a price cut?
When the X1 SKU without Kinect went from 400€ to 350€, that's a price cut.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the X1 only had 1 price cut until now.
You're not wrong.
The trolls must think that if they repeat a lie often enough people will start believe it.
Replies(2)Not one price cut. They just unbundled kinect smh. So explain the 3 price cut. This site is ridiculous
Phase 1: Fire Don Matrick.
Phase 2:__________
Phase 3: Profit.
Seriously though, promoting Phil was a smart move on Microsoft's part.
I still believe that Xbox One should have launched in Q4 of 2014 but obviously didn't want to give PS4 a year head start.
Crazy how much it has evolved since 2013. Going from the Titanfall hype to almost Halo 5's launch has felt like 2 different consoles.
I really like the direction Xbox is heading in and glad the PS4 played a big part in shaping that direction.
Next generation should be interesting.
"Next generation should be interesting."
Pretty much what I been thinking. some interesting seeds were sewn this gen. I think the next xbox is going be an absolute beast. They will never allow themselves to be the lower specced console again....
They were weaker in specs last Gen too so don't know what you're referring too
@dboyc310
Not entirely true. The xbox 360 had the faster GPU and its approach to RAM usage was better, hence why so many multiplats performed better (google it yourself). Of course PS3 eclusives shined better due to the Cell being the better CPU, but the flip side of that is MS hardly had any 1st party devs that were pushing the console on the graphics front, but thats another conversation..halo 4 was a great example of what could be done with the x360 and its one of the best looking games last gen.
Both had their advantages but better GPU potentially means better graphics..the X360 had the better GPU. simply was not really pushed. funny thing is the PS4 has the same advantages over the X1 that the X360 had over the PS4: easier to develop for. better GPU. better RAM solution.
And as I said in my initial post..which you seems to have gone over your head. MS are more active in their 1st party activities. Crackdowns cloud tech will be game changer for how 1st part xbox games are developed. these things will only mature with time and experience and will shape the next xbox. That is why I think people who think otherwise will be in for quite a shock...especially if anything comes of those AMD rumours..and AMD are ripe for purchase right now....
Its all speculation right now. I dont have a crystal ball.But Im usually pretty close ....maybe Im just lucky at guessing these things though.
Flex the PS3 was the more powerful console, the problem especially for 3rd party developers was accessing that power, the 360 was certainly easier to develope for and that was it's biggest advantage, but in terms of raw potential the PS3 was the clear winner.
I may be wrong but i think the original Xbox was more powerfull than the ps2, but the 360 and One have been down on raw power compared to the playstation rivals.
"It's hard to believe at this point that the Xbox One is actually beginning to build momentum against the PS4."
....It's not. PS4 has outsold it every single month this year(except for April) and with Octobers price drop, even Halo 5 might not be enough to finally outsell the PS4. Then there's the upcoming Star Wars and Call Of Duty bundles for PS4 in November. Again I ask, how exactly is XB1 building momentum agains the PS4?
Your definition of momentum is sales. As a console the xbox one is building momentum as a viable option compared to the PS4 or as a worthwhile second console for PS4 owners who like the look of this years xbox exclusives and next years. If anything xbox one is starting to resemble the original xbox's approach.
What you just said makes no sense.
You just said momentum doesn't doesn't mean sales, but then said momentum will lead PS4 owners into buying an Xbox One for exclusives.
@famous
He was talking in terms of the xbox one beating the PS4 in sales. I was defining the xbox as an appealing platform someone may consider. I'm not saying everyone is going to buy one and it will out sell PS4. I'm saying it's momentum as a desirable platform is building.
.....its always been a viable alternative to the PS4. Always.
There fact is that the PS4 has and always will be seen as the better choice by most. This is why I'm talking about sales. Because momentum = Sales.
A console can't have any momentum if it sells like crap.
@ItechHeads
So you value momentum on sales? What ever happened to games, features, etc. Are you that blind to sales that you rather point to sales in every Xbox article instead of actual games.
Why do you mention Starwars and Call of duty like they are not coming to Xbox One. You did the same last year with Destiny stating it would sell more on PS4, how did that turn out?
In response to your question Xbox One continues to build Momentum by offering fantastic games with great value, reviews and most importantly overall fun, Xbox live has more then 39 million active users and that's with sales decline on Xbox 360. Last but not least look at the awesome features the Xbox One offers that is not possible on your PS4. I call that building momentum.
Keep holding onto sales I still have 4 more exclusives to play by the end of the year. Halo 5, TombRaider, Gigantic and Fable Legends add in third parties games like, Assassins Creed, Battlefront, Rainbow Six, COD, fallout, Just Cause That's 10 games I play compared to 6 you play. You can keep your sales I rather have the games. That's what I call building momentum.
Funny how many Xbox fans say that Sony fans play sales, not games, yet forget that the Xbox One didn't have a single exclusive since November 2014 (unless you count Ori) until the Gears and RARE remasters launched. Now you get 3 exclusives (one being a timed exclusive) and all of the sudden you gloat about games.
Destiny only sold more on Xbox in NA. Worldwide PS4 has sold more copies. That doesn't even include the copies that were with Destiny PS4 bundles.
@Heavyx
Try harder in 2015 Xbox One has had
ScreamRide-March
Ori and the Blind Forest-March
State of Decay- April
Halo ODST-June
Rare Replay-August
Gears of War UE-August
Forza 6-September
Halo 5-October
TombRaider-November
Fable Legends-December
Gigantic-December/January
Did I mention Xbox also had the most MMO's in history this year.
Dungeons and Dragon Neverwinter-March
Happy Wars-April
AirMech Arena-May
World of Tanks-July
Smite-August
Onigiri- September
BattleIsland- October
@Heavy if you see a shortage of games please advise. LOL
Lol, ScreamRide? Seriously? You should be ashamed, and State of Decay is not even exclusive.
It's funny how you totally ignored my point about no games between November 2014 and August 2015 (oh, wait, you got ScreamRide, LOL) but you listed games that either recently launched or haven't even launched.
@ MichaelLito79:
I see you listed both console exclusives and indie exclusives on console. So let us put the PS4 console exclusive list:
1. The Order 1886 (February)
2. Bloodborne (March)
3. MLB The Show 15 (April)
4. Omega Quintet (April)
5. J-Stars Victory VS + (June)
6. Onenchabara Z2 Chaos (July)
7. Deception IV: The Nightmare Princess (July)
8. God of War 3 Remastered (July)
9. Until Dawn (August)
10. Everybody's Gone to The Rapture (August)
11. Tearaway Unfolded (September)
12. Disgaea 5 (October)
13. Dragon Quest Heroes (October)
14. Uncharted: Nathan Drake Collection (October)
15. Earth Defense Force 4.1 (November)
This are all the known games. All retail releases with the exception of Everybody's Gone to the Rapture.
Fable Legends-December
Gigantic-December/January
These 2 need to be updated. Fable Legends might not release this year. It still has no release date. All the ones I mentioned already released and the last one has set release date 11.3.15
By the way onigiri is on ps4 and world of tanks is coming soon. the rest may happen as well.
***It’s hard to believe at this point that the Xbox One is actually beginning to build momentum against the PS4.***
I get what they're trying to say, but it's failed to gain momentum so far. In order to gain momentum, it has to sell more than the PS4 for at least one month. And then we can say there's some momentum. And, having said that, outselling for two months still isn't momentum.
***What motivated the company in that direction?***
Losing in sales. As long as they continue to lose in sales, they continue to focus on what gamers want. If they had come out of the gate winning and maintained it even slightly above the PS4, what you have now would have now would have been drastically different.
***that listen to the consumers and if you know wherever we can you know tweak the product and the functionality to offer what the consumers want.***
Too bad they don't have this policy prior to creating something that users don't want and without listening to users. Windows 8 was reviled, so a quick Win 8.1 and a full Win 10 to fix some of those issues (and create a few more, though very minor in relationship). XBO at release was reviled and forced a product most people didn't want, so finally listen to "users" when they fail to equal up to the competition.
What would it be like if they listened to customers prior to encountering major issues?
Par for the course really. Sometimes people learn off others mistakes. Others clearly aren't clever enough to do that.
Hey, it makes the gossip more entertaining.
"In order to gain momentum, it has to sell more than the PS4 for at least one month"
Exactly. The Xbox One's momentum is in relation to what it was selling before. Not in relation to the PS4 because the PS4 itself is also selling more than it was before.
In their NPD statement, Microsoft said they were up YoY so this is in fact what they meant by momentum. Its not a comparison to Sony. Its a self assessment.
It was the "users" who didn't understand things like the relevance of the cloud, or that you could play used and share games just like any other console(in fact, better). "Users", who never used the console(?), acting like entitled brats through their ignorance.
MS should have been more clear, TBH, but everything was detailed at the E3 reveal. Besides that, Sony had DRM policies in place like MS did, but since they went second they were able to use the confusion and DRM backlash against MS just like most ignorant people still do today.
1. I don't think users were at all ignorant. Users pretty much know a tactic to trap how you use your content when they see it. That's exactly what it was.
2. Sure, they should have explained things better, but the fact that they didn't have answers told users exactly the pitfalls that would exist with that sort of system. Why didn't they come out from the get-go with exactly how users would be able (or not able) to share or sell games?
3. Sony didn't have any DRM policies in place. Stop spreading lies. You're just mimicing idiotic journalists who draw their own conclusions from Shuhei saying ---
"There were lots of people who gave their opinions on that issue to my Twitter account before E3," SCE Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida told Famitsu magazine this week. "It's not that our hardware policies are decided strictly based on user reaction like this, but when we were thinking about what we had to bring across and how to bring it across, it was a very useful source."
If you don't think MS didn't do the same thing in this regard as Sony, you're mistaken. But, at no point has Sony ever stated they had plans for DRM or said that they nixed it because of MS. All they said was they used feedback from MS to help direct how they tell users about their console and its tools. Same thing everyone else does and not a sign of a drastic change in policies.
For those people who don't think drm was ready and in place for ps4 please do your ressearch as evidence was found in the terms and use agreement I believe.
Sony always goes second. Which to me is a safe route.
MS has balls so they go first.
@ ScaReCrow90:
Sony did not hide it. They left it there for publishers and continued to say it would be up to publishers. There is no evidence, unless you can provide it, that it was going to be implemented. Maybe in the future and once again up to publishers. Microsoft had balls, you are correct. They also got broken by the wave of discontent to the point that many switched over to Playstation. There was nothing noble about the Xbox One reveal. That was one of the most arrogant spectacles that I have seen from representatives of any company anywhere. They downright insulted people without good internet connection.
I see that Microsoft has changed for the better. But find surprising that anybody could so blindly defend their arrogance from the Xbox One reveal. They downright insulted people. Those are not the kind of balls we should be proud of.
1. You're being an ignorant user with that post, because there was no "trap". The people who agree with you prove that users are ignorant more than I could on my own though, so thanks for the help.
2. MS said that you could take your disc to a friend's house and play it like normal. If access was attempted on the install without the disc, the system would ask you to put the disc back in OR buy a digital copy to continue playing. They also said that while they wouldn't charge a used fee themselves, they would allow a publisher to charge a fee for playing used games at their discretion. Just because their conference was convoluted, doesn't mean it wasn't said.
3. You think this all stems from one quote? Do some research. Besides, you're not seriously going to suggest that Sony would directly admit that they had DRM too, only to face similar backlash to that of MS, are you?
1. No, I'm not. They only said they would implement a program for selling back stuff that was up to the publisher and that it would be at limited locations. They didn't have any answers other than that. They had so many unanswered elements to their system, and that really worried people. Why come out with something so different when you can't answer everything? The complaints were that people were being limited by what publishers would decide and by the location that MS or publishers would decide. Mom & Pop would be affected as it would likely be set to places like GameStop. That also means more traveling to sell a game if you didn't live near one. And then there were issues like how much would you get back, how it would be sold to a second party since it's technically just selling a digital game, and more. It looked exactly like them attempting to give second hand sales to the publishers so they could earn more money rather than losing out like the current market. It was a huge step back from what players already could do, and it seemed that there was no benefit to players since in the long run they would be paying more and having less control since everything you could do then, you can do now (you can still take a game to a friend's house and play the game within minutes with your latest save point).
2. No one talked about using games on friend's consoles. I was talking about used games, as in selling games that you no longer want. This has no bearing on the conversation at all until you brought it up.
3. It really does and any thing else people could find to trump up a reason why. There is zero proof that Sony had DRM policies other than people making leaps of logic. You've provided zero evidence here, for example, you just tell me to do research when I have and have never found any that says Sony planned for DRM and then changed their mind. None. Heck, I provided a quote that most people have used in news articles to claim as such, whereas you provided nothing but the claim that it's true.
Microsoft has done an incredible job of pulling themselves back together- after spending five years with a slim catalog of exclusives and only a few first party studios and games, they have spent the last few years working on building up an enviable portfolio of Xbox exclusive games.
Honestly Halo 5 is shaping to be the best FPS shooter and will definitely be stand out from COD/Battlefront/R6 Seige.
The amount of content and free dlc is what every shooter out there should be like. Instead of selling map packs like COD/Battlefield and surely Battlefront and most likely R6 Siege, they should be doing their games like Halo 5. Its a perfect example on how much content should be in a FPS.
Hopefully they keep that trend in future Halo games.
Lets take a wait and see approach because after Halo 4 I don't know if 343 can deliver like Bungie.
Shaping to be the best does not mean i said it is the best. But from what i have seen so far, like i said, it is shaping to be the best. And to be honest i did like the story in Halo 4.
I am a single player guy so i cant say alot about the mp because i didnt play much of it.
@SCW, Halo 4 was far from a bad game at all, but I can see why you think the way you do. All I can say is that the time I spent with the Beta, along with all the gameplay we have seen and all the details we have gotten about what Halo 5 will be...I have zero doubt that this will be the FPS of all FPSs. But who knows, maybe i'll be the guy who gets let down. Doubt it tho.
Maybe not mp wise but story wise they killed bungie already. Halo 4 had the best story with the most detail and understandable dialogue plus the terminals were easy to find.
Have you paid attention to what 343 is doing ?
Halo 5 looks amazing so far and they really are listening to the fans on everything.....except split screen.
Hype level fo5 Halo 5 grows by the day and every new piece of info helped increase it even more.
Couldn't stand Halo 4......Halo 5 looks 10x better.
Halo5 will be one of the best games to come out this generation so far, but I have to say also, that Black Ops 3 was super fun to play during the open beta. I had very little expectation for Black Ops 3, but it's looking great.
After playing the open beta for Starwars Battlefront and the beta for Rainbow Six Siege, the quality and quantity of game content in Halo5 and Black Ops 3, looks to surpass everything else on the market by a longshot.
I loved Halo 4, it had the best visuals, best controls and best story telling out of all the Halo games iv played, and I have played them all including Spartan Assault and Strike. 343 have already delivered and I have more faith in them then I did with Bungie especially after playing the 1st Destiny. Apart from afew trolled reviews like the 2/10 1 reviewer gave it, Halo 4 sits on a very healthy 87 meta and sold over 9million units lifetime. If Halo 5 was anything like Halo 4 I would be very impressed.
After playing Halo 5 beta I can tell you that the gameplay feels the best and if 343 can offer its story telling into Halo 5 then I am possibly looking at the best game in 2015, even beating my favourites in Witcher 3 and MGS5.
With a 3 year dev circle, i have very high hopes right now. If it fails then ill be looking forward to Halo Wars 2 and Halo 6. It doesn't stop at 5.
Time will tell,
Halo 3 and Halo reach was a lot better than Halo 4 in every way. I'll wait and see first
i gotta disagree with you like alot of other people did, halo reach was ok but not great. only reason i owned it was because i bought the halo reach limited edition xbox 360.
Halo 3 was the most fun single player halo game I've ever played. The race at the end on the worthog was awesome *me and my bro raced each other in splitscreen* Reach was OK. Cannot believe there's no splitscreen this time but I'll wait and see how good it is. Halo 4 was much better than Reach IMO.
I agree crash, halo 2 and 3 were amazing, but halo 4 to me was easily the most forgettable in the series. I understand why everyone has their different tastes, but it doesn't change the feeling of disappointment I felt after finishing it. I hope halo 5 is awesome though, but from what I'm hearing it's even closer to cod now, so I'll wait and see before I say anything negative about it. War zone looks cool though.
Shocking there isn't a lot of competition for FPS this gen.
Halo, Battlefield (Star Wars), COD, Desinty, and TitanFall are really it so far. And honestly COD and BF aren't really standouts any more.
But what makes Halo push above the others is the sheer amount of game modes, forge, and an actually good squad campaign.
I'm not a fan of Halo at all really, but out of what we have across all consoles, it does the most to push the genre forward, and I can at least respect that.
Call of Duty begins to stand out against the rest when you look at what you're getting for your money, when compared to Starwars Battlefront and Rainbow Six Siege.
Both Halo5 and Black Ops 3 are bucking the trend that Ubisoft and EA are trying to push onto gamers with the multiplayer-only model. I will admit that Titanfall was and is an amazing game, but it could have been so much better with a great single player campaign.
To me Halo 5 looks like any other Halo and it looks no better than any other shooter IMO. I'm not being negative I'm not buying hype for any game anymore if a game is great it will stand on its on. Microsoft has a bad habit and gets out in front of every exclusive with massive hype. Take TitanFall for example it IMO was hyped more than any other game in gaming history and sadly for Respawn and Microsoft it was released and no one has talked about it since. Take Forza 6 as another example it to had massive hype as the greatest car/ racer ever! But since release no one has talked about it and I doubt anyone will and I doubt it's selling any better than the last 2 Forza titles which was nothing to talk about. When Halo 5 releases and it carries the post release hype that Halo 2 had and does for Microsoft what Halo 2 for Xbox then we can talk about it being the best Halo made. .....not likely to happen. Imo
And you forget Wolfenstein, Fallout 4, Thief, Killzone, Destiny and R6. There's plenty FPS games on the market, I find there are more FPS games then anything else :)
@Azzanation
Fallout is a WRPG, Thief is a First Adventure, and I did list Destiny.
Rainbow Six isn't in the same type / league as these games, especially with no campaign or the scale of multiplayer Halo, COD, or Battlefield has. Early last-gen Yes, but its been YEARS since we had a Rainbow Six, and while this one looks fun, it's not the Huge AAA FPS that Halo, COD, Battlefield, or even Destiny are.
Wolfenstein doesn't have the level of multiplayer to compete here (some don't have it at all).
Killzone is the closest of those games at this level, and while I enjoy Killzone, it's not quite up to par, because there's always some minor issues holding it back. KZ2's quality was up here. KZ3 was too much like COD, although the campaign was good. ShadowFall was a launch title with great ideas, and improvements, but the single player was lackluster, and it was a bit rushed overall (multiplayer is fun).
There aren't nearly the amount of FPS this gen as there were last gen. The quality ones stayed and thrived, all the other games fell off and died.
I've played a lot of shooters and am a huge fan of the genre, but Halo 5 looks to be the very best shooter I've ever seen to date.
@Placebohed
TitanFall was hardly the first game to use a jump or double jumps or even wall running and other games such as Call of Duty and Destiny that use jumps, double jumps and triple jumps has nothing at all to do with TitanFall.
very good when sony and ms competes for our dollars we as gamers win. so competition is a very healthy thing
I think people are getting a bit carried away with themselves halo isnt the brand it once was and apart from remastering bungie's games ,343 have ONLY MADE 1 GAME halo 4 which the online community died only after only 2 months
Good to know. The 2016 line up looks really good (Recore, Scalebound, QB, SOT...). I hope MS keeps investing in new AAA ips through out this gen also san't wait to play Halo 5. The campaign and warzone look very interesting.
I can't wait for Halo 5 but I think I am most excited to see how the new IP you listed turn out.
More new ips for 2016 announced as well. As usual, hopefully E3 of 2016 impresses.
Scalebound and Sea of Thieves are going to eat away a lot of my time at the end of 2016... Next to Gears 4 of course.
Having a hard time understanding why people are disagreeing with you.
The biggest issue I had with MS last gen was their reliance on the same handful of games. The fact that they're focused on new titles should be exciting for all gamers....
In my honest opinion if they offer in 2016 the following
QuantumBreak
Scalebound
Recore
Crackdown 3
Forza Horzon 3
Gears of War 4
Halo Wars
Project Knoxville
Sea of Thieves
Add in
Cuphead
Tacoma
The Solus Project
ION
DayZ
Ashen
Superhot
So happy Few
Bloodstain
You add in
DLC support for Halo 5, Forza, TombRaider
Plus if Fable is released and Gigantic in 2016 instead of 2015
They are going to have an Epic year. Its going to be tuff for any competitor to top what MS has too offer. This is just my opinion.
Cuphead Recore (maybe) and Scalebound are the only games that interest me ,but that is just me-
@Prpfessor_K
It's because fanboys are running around here. My comment was a direct response to MichaelLito79 list, yet mine was marked for off topic and his still sits there.
@magiciandude
I think most of them are definitely coming, as a matter of fact I suspect all of them to come, because most of the games announced so far (the first 2 parts) are 2nd and 3rd party exclusives, so it's not spreading Sony thin. The only questionable ones at this point are the secret games we still no nothing about from Sony's first parties.
@gangsta & chris
MichaelLito79 listed their 2016 line-up and says, and I quote
"Its going to be tuff for any competitor to top what MS has too offer. This is just my opinion."
Which is exactly why I listed the PS4 games to show they too have a great line-up IMO, and why i said, AND I QUOTE
"Both consoles have great line-ups and I'm happy to see 2016 for XBO filled with NEW IP's, but this PS list is just ridiculous."
If anyone has an insecurity Red it's you and your lack of intelligence or at the very least Reading Comprehension. If both of you had actually read what I wrote and not just gazed over Uncharted 4 and instantly claimed PS fan list, you could have just went along about your business instead of wasting your bubble commenting to someone who cares less about what either of you have to say. But more importantly you would have realized this was a discussion about line-up's and not someone simply listing PS games for the sake of it, and saved yourself from posting these ignorant / pointless comments (ignorant Red / pointless Chris). But you can't expect much from the simple-minded fanboy now can you.
Good to hear. XBOX is beginning to gain momentum and Halo 5 like Forza 6, no doubt will be one of the best in its genre. Day 1!
Im no xbox fan but i have to say that halo 5 looks to be impressive.. Im not buying the system just yet though.. I want to see what else they have up their sleeves.. When they get desperate, we as gamers get great games.. I already want rare replay and Killer Instinct but im still not buying until i see at least 5-10 games i want for it.. Plus it needs to be smaller and cheaper... I can always buy it when the next console generation comes around if need be.. PS4 & Wii U satisfy my gaming needs.. Plus i collect retro games as well so im used to playing the waiting game
5-10 games is quite a bit and waiting to buy it once the next generation hits is kind of strange. I mean why wait that long when there are deals every 4-6 months or so for that console; bundles fit here too. I actually bought my Xbox One after I watched all the e3 2015 press conferences. I was impressed with MS and what their vision is and since the day I bought the One I never looked back.
Cheaper I think isn't going to happen, at least for now, because it's not long enough in the generation cycle.
PS4 and Wii U may satisfy your needs but there's tons of people out there who buy the One along with those consoles and then make a decision on which one they would really stick with. I know 3 people off the top of my head who have all 3 and decided to make the One their go-to.
All I can say is to research it a bit, wait for a decent deal (there's many out there IMO), and focus on 1 or 2 games (could even be exclusives to make better judgement) that draw you in. Like Gran Turismo - try Forza 6. Like FPS' - try Halo 5 when it comes out. Like Uncharted and Infamous - try Sunset Overdrive and Tomb Raider.
You get the idea I'm making here and it is all food-for-thought.
I am waiting because I feel like they will drop the price and between my vita wiiu and ps4 with multiplats I have a ton of games i still need to play without all the new games coming out. Plus Fallout 4 will be out soon amd that will eat up months of my time. Also my taste and xbox arent the most compatible. That is just me though - But if my son wants to play halo sooner than later i may jump in earlier than planned
I know theyre going to have so many more updates and redesign the system so thats why ill be waiting before i buy it.. I really dont have time for it right now so it would be pointless to buy it.. I only have a few days off per week to play plus my GF gets jealous of my games too.. Ill get it but not until theres nothing to play on my other consoles and they slim it down to my liking.. 5-10 games isnt much to want from a console i think.. I have 16 or so for my wii u and i dont use it nearly as much as the ps4.
I know how you feel. weeks away now! forza 6 is keeping me busy along with some other stuff, but I need halo 5!
