The Star Citizen Drama is Getting Crazier. Let's Hear Both Sides of This Ugly Story.

There’s a big, ugly controversy brewing right now that could only come out of the bickering, petty, lying, arrogant, me-centric video game industry. But let's try to pick apart the details and figure out who's saying what and why.

[Lamboomington]

So much drama.

Citizencon is one week from now, where they'll be showing off their SP campaign. Then, later in the month they want to release the 'baby Persistent Universe', not to mention the FPS module should be out before that.
Then again, they haven't exactly been the best at deadlines. While I'm not too optimistic about hitting these ones, they did hit the short term deadline for the Social module map, so... never know.

Chris Roberts keeps saying "The game will speak for itself"
Well, let's wait a couple of months and see if the game speaks for itself, or if they crash and burn, in which case there will be such a shitstorm. Hopefully that doesn't happen...

[Godmars290]

Thing is how much will the project make, or lose, in that time? What is the actual window until Starcitizen is functionally up and running? Never mind technically complete.

[3-4-5]

By the time the game is released, what it was supposed to be, when we first heard about it, won't be as appealing.

2-3 years ago this sounded awesome, but 2-3 years from now once it's officially released it won't be that special.

They screwed this one up....

[Lamboomington]

Strongly disagree, but we'll just have to wait and see. Thing is, 2-3 years later, I'm feeling much more excited for it than I ever was.

[The_KELRaTH]

Id forgotten how long ago it was that I paid into this game - Oct 20th 2012!

It has become an extremely ambitious game, when I put my money in I was just expecting an advanced uptodate Wing commander / Privateer game but it seems to have gone way past that.

Looking forward to the fps side!

[SteamPowered]

This will be the cautionary tale that all other kickstarters are judged by if this does indeed tank.

I hope it does release successfully and with a reasonable price and rescaled microtransactions. ($400 for an in game ship is ridiculous!)

[Lamboomington]

For the 100th time lol

They aren't microtransactions. They are methods to CROWDFUND the game. That's what it is, continued crowdfunding. That's it.

The MMO will have Microtransactions involving a capped amount of credits. It could be good or shit depending on how they implement that. We'll just have to see.

[Gigglefist]

A surprisingly fair article

In the end I just think it's the story of a man who bit off more than he could chew and is too proud (Even arrogant. Not sure) to admit it.

[brimby]

Thanks, buddy.

[jmc8888]

No, I don't think he bit off more then he could chew, I think another guy who had a similar vision, but not as much talent or resources (and probably lacked a certain attitude/personality) is going psycho over Roberts creating what otherwise would be 'his' baby.

He's jealous of Roberts, and wishes he was doing what Roberts currently is.

That's what I think. Just look at all the things Derek Idiot has said. He seems to me to be incredibly petty, vindictive, and full of hot air. Making crazy claims that cannot possibly be backed up.

Pretty good article though.

[jmc8888]

It's so funny because this game has been..

The most open ever...wanting feedback as well as all the videos, chats, and overall statements.

Has delivered aspects of the game in terms of modules (with some pretty nice quality btw)

I really don't see anything except the changing of the TOS for anyone to complain about...and remember... it was the same guy Derek Smart who was involved in that situation.

The game is going to take awhile, anyone that expects differently is a certifiable moron who I'm surprised has the brain cells to inhale oxygen in a continuous fashion.

I have seen NOTHING that would look like there is even a chance this game doesn't ship with everything or almost everything in it.

What I see is some morons and bitter people lying through their butts to gain some attention, and getting a naive journalist to believe them enough to give them a forum to spread their lies.

Everything Derek Smart is involved in regarding Star Citizen seem certifiably loony and I don't see why anyone would ever believe anything he says about the game.

How a journalist can't boot up Arena Commander, or the hub, or even just run around the hangar and you can not only see that there is something tangible out there, and even has PvP dogfighting matches for many months (so there already in a sense IS A GAME)... but you can also see the quality, attention to detail, and overall breathtaking scope this game will have.

These idiots act as if what they have given us is also supposedly the only things they've gotten done. Like they're giving us everything and everything else not done has not been worked on at all. Then they want you to believe this crap.

Clearly many of the purported claims by the psycho haters simply don't hold any water. Play the game yourself, and you'll see.

Then you have all the suspicious stuff that conveniently shows up... only a couple of postings or so on glassdoor since this whole game started... and then out of the blue you have a few all bunched together all hating.

In other words, the crazy campaign of Derek Smart and drug in Liz reeks to high heaven. Stinks worse then Ron Burgandy's Sex Panther by Odeon cologne.

...and notice the responses, how so many people are putting the two sides even like it's a debate, and both sides have a 'valid' story or whatever. No.

This isn't a cautionary tale, because we don't have a cautionary tale... what we have is pure hatred, psycho idiocy, and unprofessional journalism making crap up against Chris Roberts, RSI/CiG.

[jmc8888]

The onus is on Derek Smart and Liz to prove something, and it is a natural situation for RSI/CIG/Roberts to not be able to showcase everything, because the game is still in development. They also don't have to come out and showcase their balance sheet, or anything else. The absence of them not publicly revealing this stuff, doesn't mean ANYTHING Derek Smart said or Liz reported is in any way true.

This is what's so devious. They make these claims which are almost impossible to answer because no private company opens their books to the public based on a psycho yahoo on the internet, and many...many people will ignorantly then side with Derek Smart.

Derek Smart and whoever else involved is preying on the ignorance, and short attention span of others in order to go after these people making this game.

He got off with glee for making it personal. Really? Personal? Looks like Derek Smart WANTED to have an excuse for it to be personal, so he could get coverage/advertising for his own game, whereas at the same time he could engage in pure lunacy for fun. He's a guy who has barked big at Roberts for about 20 years but never taken a bite.

I am actually surprised at Chris Roberts restraint against this psycho idiot on the internet trying to bring down his project. He's make some massive claims and Derek Smart and The Escapist one day might have to defend those claims in court. Derek Smart can play the waiting game and prey on ignorance by saying dumb idiocy like (they'll have to open the books)... well maybe they will once the project is completed. These people may just face a defamation and/or libel suit.

Overall there isn't anything here. It's not that I think there is a zero percent shot that this will fail, it's that I realize that Derek Smart and Liz have showcased 0 percent reason why I should be concerned whatsoever. If anything fails, it won't because of anything Smart and Liz were about. It'll just be a case of a broken clock is still right twice a day.

So maybe Star Citizen will fail. Haven't seen any reason to think so, and know Liz and Derek don't have any valid reason to think so, but they want you to think so based off their sophistry.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and claiming that they are about to shut their doors and leave the game unfinished is a beast of a claim. So where is their evidence?

[lunatic0001]

I look forward to star citizen but the only thing that pissed me off was the stretch goals...there is a time when you should just say okay thats enough...I think we reached enough stretch goals... Let's polish the game to make it special...but they just kept adding and adding thus its been a looooong wait... Should be good though...I hope