Luke: PlayStation TV: good idea, poor execution. Mostly because there were a ton of great Vita games that the little box wouldn’t support. But hey, where Sony came up short, users are getting the job done.
But can you actually fully play Golden Abyss? Or is there some control that a DS3/4 can't replicate?
No. There are parts of GA that require the camera and gyro controls.
Not true played it on my PS Vita Tv for 2hrs no prob without gyro and camera.
Sat down and played through Uncharted and can confirm that no, you can not fully play it on the PSTV. You can play bits and pieces, but not the whole game. For example, there's a scene where you need to cross a mossy log to continue. Without the gyro on the Vita, you fall to your death. There's no way around it. Later, there's a part that requires the camera. Also, it should only be played with the DS4 with its touchpad.
Not sure why the gyros would be a problem. Both the DS3 and DS4 have gyroscopic motion sensor. The rubbings could be simulated with the touch pad, or through the built in functions of pressing the R3/L3 buttons. The camera would really be the only issue. Granted, those features haven't been implemented fully enough to play through GA, so that would be the first step.
It's perfectly useful, for the price I paid, lol... $25 bucks, can't argue with that value. Just to play Persona 4 Golden and Dissidia on the big screen.
Can't argue with the price of the system, just with the memory cards.
now i need a hack that enables remote play everywhere, not only under same wifi network.
So set it up... If you need a hack you insta-fail.
Why would you hack something into a device that already does just what you want?
Yeah, I got the one with a DS3 and memory card for $50, so it was a pretty good deal. I use it quite often for playing vita games at home. Don't know why people hate on the device so much. They're so cheap, it just seems silly to not want one unless they really just dislike all the games on the system, or have no PS3/4 to use it for remote play. It's a nice little device and is the cheapest console out there, and it's powerful enough to play PS3 level games.
In reply to your questions about Uncharted, there should be no reason why it wouldn't work except that the PSTV doesn't recognize the DS4's gyro sensors at all (at least when it comes to playing Vita games). And the rubbings in GA can easily be done with the touch controls. However, the on-screen prompts that have you swipe the screen during melee fights and other times, can only really be done with the DS4 touchpad. After playing it on the big screen, I don't see why this game wasn't patched for the PSTV. I don't know how hard it would be, but all you would need is a patch that had the game auto-bypass the balance stuff, and then auto-skip the camera stuff as well. It's not like there's a ton of those moments in the game. And auto-skipping them doesn't ruin the experience at all (if anything, it would make it better).
Yeah. I think it's more a matter of Sony having to enable certain input features without having to make special updates for the games themselves. If a game has things that have to be specially implemented to work on a controller, then the chance that some old games get support is slim to none. It's a shame to me, because there are quite a few games I'd like to play on the PSTV but can't do so because of this short coming.
I'll buy one tomorrow!
Who argued the PlayStation TV wasn't? It fits different needs like the Roku and Slingbox do.
Just like the PSP over again,hackers maximize its abilities and Sony slacking on the features.
Partly agree, while it would be nice to have these features, if something is implemented and fails due to incompatibility with just one game, people will hound them to death over it. "This 1 games doesn't work" never mind the other 9 that work for other people.
What about all the people who have purchased Vita games for their PSTV only to find out they're not white-listed for compatibility? I bought Ys: Celceta to use on my brothers Vita and recently grabbed a $37 PSTV only to not be able to play the game because Sony hasn't white listed the game. Falcom has already made the patch for non-touch screen and the Japanese version is playable on PSTV over there, but I contacted Xseed and they're waiting on Sony.
And it's thanks to those hackers that we're paying so damn much for Sonys proprietary memory cards on Vita. If so many people didn't hack the thing and pirate most of their games, then Sony wouldn't have had to take such precautions.
It's never Sony's fault at all. Everything is in the power of the hacker. Even the hackers decide if the Vita succeeds or not. Sony cannot do anything to make the Vita more appealing to the masses, because the hackers don't want them to. This kind of logic is so amazing...
So it wasn't the hackers fault that the PSP is understood to be one of the most pirated systems to date then magiciandude? I would seriously like to know what you think happens when most of the people who own a system pirate their games instead of buying them. You see hardware companies use games as loss leaders, which means they use them to maintain a steady profit over the lifetime of a console. That's how the industry works. If they aren't making that steady profit then they lose money and have to take precautions or they will go out of business. This is a simple concept. Sony had one of two choices: 1) Make sure the Vita couldn't be hacked OR 2) Not release another handheld system for fear of losing too much money on it. So they chose option 1. Could Sony have done things differently? Yes, of course they could, they ballsed up royally with the Vita I'm not going to dispute that, but to lay all of the blame on Sony is just an inability to see the bigger picture.
Many of those hacks were counter-productive to profit for both Sony and the publishers. Outside of a few of them, most of them had no monetary benefit to Sony, and one of the most treasured(emulators) is actually against copyright laws and counter to publishers so Sony had no right to make it happen. Not that Sony couldn't be a bit more productive on adding features to the Vita, or updating the OS to allow for expansion, but Sony isn't going to do anything that is against their interests, and they have a duty to protect the publishers interests.
ps4 on the bedroom telly while the lounge one is taken, its already useful.
I bought one for that very reason. Tried playing Sleeping Dogs on a fully wired 75mb connection. Very frustrating lag. Gave up. It is by no means the "2nd" PS4 some people tout it as.
I paid $20 for it and it was an amazing deal. My son can stream PS4 games in another room and PS Now too. But the Vita part is pointless. Sony should do another version without the Vita support and with 1080P Netflix/Hulu/HBOgo for $30. If they actually advertised it it would do extremely well.
Really surprised I got so many disagrees.
Bought one for P4G and I thought the thing did not do the vita justice so I sold and just bought a Vita. For the price the thing is unbeatable though.
Why would you sell it? You couldn't have possibly gotten anything worthwhile for it. I've noticed that you seem to have sold quite a few of your Sony systems....why do you keep wasting your money?
Instead of defending everything Sony, I would ask why are Sony peripherals and products underwhelming, unsupported and almost abandoned once released.
I find most peripherals from any company underwhelming and under supported. Wouldn't really call it a Sony thing. Kinect had support well enough, but that didn't bring anything worthwhile for the most part. The Vita had decent support for a couple years, but seems no one cared for it, so Sony stopped trying....at least in the west. That being said, I wouldn't really call the PSTV a peripheral, although it can have periphery uses to the PS4. It actually is a full fledged console, but how much support should Sony give it when people are just going to sell it and bash it left and right for no real good reason. That being said, the biggest peripherals Sony has released I can think of are Move, and I'll throw in the Vita for the sake of argument. Move was supported, just not over marketed outside the casual, which is where motion control belonged. Vita is still being sold, and games are coming out for it. It's become a niche machine, but I wouldn't consider it underwhelming. I fail to see how my comment was defending Sony either way...more a mocking of Lawson's lack of self control in his purchasing habits since he seems to sell everything for what is likely a mere pittance, just to purchase the more expensive version, which I'm sure if I went back far enough in his history I would find he also sold because it didn't suit him.
Sony should just gives us the ability to play PS1, PS2, PSP, and PSV games on our PS4's.
Sure...Also original Xbox games, Dreamcast games, Japanese Saturn games and atari Lynx games. C'mon Sony, Get you s**t together.
If the PlayStation TV can play all of those consoles(besides PS2) I listed why can't the PS4 other than Sony not porting their emulators to PS4?
I have waited for this for so long!
I tried the hack but all it seemed to do for me was make my game cards unplayable, error code displayed. I didn't try any downloadable games. I had to restore the PSTV. Anyone else have any luck.
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Regarding playing Golden Abyss, how do you get past the part where Drake has to hold the parchment up to the light and it uses the rear camera? Or any of the balancing parts that required you to tilt the Vita to stay up-right? I know that if you've already played through the game on Vita, some of those things can be skipped (like the camera stuff) but does the balancing stuff work with the dualshock? I haven't tried it yet but i've read in other forums people having problems with those sections.
I was wondering that too
Ha! Awesome! I just bought one yesterday actually, for streaming PS4 from my living room to my work office. Question: Does this hack endanger my PSN account of being banned? I've had the same PSN account since 2007 & I do not want to lose it. I have ZERO interest in pirated stuff, I just want to be able to play all of my legally owned Vita titles, especially Uncharted, Gravity Rush & Wipeout 2048.
No I doubt it endangers your psn account. But what you could do is only play it offline once you've done the hack. You shouldn't worry tho.
Yea, but some of my titles were acquired through PS+. Hard decision. I buy primarily digital these days because I'm American, but now living in EU. It's cheaper and more convenient to continue buying games from the US store. I literally have never bought a physical PS4 disc, but own tons of titles. (It's great for Remote Play also, as everything is instantly accessible without having to change discs. Especially useful for remote play when away from the house.) If I were banned, I'd still be able to access my purchased digital titles, yea? I'd probably just lose the PS+ stuff.
I went ahead and did it. Love it! Sure, there are some spots you may get stuck in Uncharted, but I do still own my Vita so I'll just switch over for those parts. There is something important missing from the instructions. After doing the Mailer setup through Thunderbird, when setting your email on the PStv, you cannot use an email address from an "Other" provider, like Outlook, etc. This caught me up for an hour or so. You must use Gmail or I imagine Yahoo, which are the two defaults. The image file wasn't clickable when I used Outlook, but worked perfectly when I did Gmail. Hope this helps anyone having this issue. Again, I don't condone doing this unless you're using your own legally owned games. Support the developers!
@psycho Also, if you haven't already, turn off auto download updates as well. Quite a cool little hack, don't have a PSTV myself just the Vita - wish it would work on the Vita though, I still have some of my PSP games that can't be played on the Vita and I'm interested to see if they could.
What are these "ton of great games" that aren't compatible? So far only 1 game I wanted hasn't been compatible.
There are a bunch, but everybody has different ideas. Some off the top of my head are: Mutant Blobs Attack Wipeout 2048 Gravity Rush Virtua Tennis 4 Modnation Racers Roadtrip Unit 13 Sly Collection Ratchet and Clank Collection Metal Gear HD Collection PlayStation All Stars The two Oddworld games, Strangers Wrath and Munch's Oddysee I'm also a fan of Spyhunter, Epic Mickey and Lego Chima. It also let's PSTV owners finally have Netflix. It's slow and kinda sucks, but it works.
Some of those can be had on PS3, no? I'm inclined to say they don't really count. On an actual Vita, sure, cause you can throw the "But its on the go" argument but on a PSTV? Idk. I do agree that if you don't have a PS3 and only a PSTV then you SHOULD be able to play majority of those titles, but lets keep it Vita only here. With that said, I'm surprised to not see DJMAX Technika Tune on your list.
Gravity Rush and Ys: Memories of Celceta were the biggest offenders, personally. Ys even had a patch in Japan that we never got here in the West. Since that was two of the four games I had my eye on, along with the absurd memory prices, I passed on the system altogether. Luckily GR is coming to PS4.
Yea I was really disappointed in Ys not being compatible
I've talked with guys at Xseed about this and it seems they're waiting on Sony to add the patch and white-list the game. Falcom and Xseed have done all they can.
At the price PSTV is going for now it's certainly worthwhile. More than half the games are playable, the reason why some aren't is bc Vita controls can't always be translated to the DS3/DS4. PSTV is actually very useful even just for streaming, it just wasn't explained well enough.
It's already useful. I play most of my games on it and they work fine. By the way the myth that tons of games dont work is just that..a myth.
Ohhh, I went as far as seeing the source is Kotaku. That's like rubbing stank on something that could have been interesting. No thanks.
Kotaku, in typical scummy fashion, simply made a single paragraph article and linked to the original article here: http://hackinformer.com/201...
Thanks. I wanted to know what all of this was about but didn't want to click on the link.
Okay...! Getting a PSTV next time I see one.
I think it's time I picked up a PSTV. I said I was considering it before, but I've been putting it off. Maybe it's time I do.
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