360-HQ Got a chance to review the legendary xbox 1 mod gods, Team Xecuter's 360 RROD Fix. Which solves the main problem of the 360, the RROD. Click the jump for the full review.
5/5 except for the fact that you completely void your warranty with Microsoft. And for those who don't know how to ground themselves, possibility of completely frying the circuit-board of the 360 with static.
Warranty I agree with, static I wouldn't concern yourself with, I've built many PC's, played with main console internals and never suffered an issues. Admittedly caution should be taken but as long as you dont go poking things you shouldn't you'll be fine. Or if your really worried touch something earthed, ie, a PC case.
wow a disagree on well said post. amazing. I totally agree with your post. You better be tech savvy.
You won't fry the board with static. Resistors alone would impede a static discharge. Although yes you could do some damage. Nobody should mess with any exposed electronics without a static wrist strap. And if people don't know that simple solution to ESD then they have no idea what they are doing.
What I don't get is why anyone would give a RROD fix less than a 5.
every stinking one of you has purchased their 360's within the 3 year period. The 360 isn't 3 years old yet, so all of us have the warranty so this kit is useless to any of us unless we bought our 360's second hand. Food for thought. After the 3 years, this will be a brilliant idea to look into this mod.
unless you modded your system like MANY people have, but just don't want to announce it. Then this fix is a great way to not lose your investment just because M$ makes crappy hardware. Oh, and lets not pretend that sending your XBOX away for 4 weeks (best case?)to incompetent M$ people is a good way to spend your time.
Good thing to know when the 3 year warranty of the RRoD runs out. I wouldn't try this before that though.
It's an Epidemic of mass proportions Another Crap Exclusive for the Xbox
The RROD LMAO!
RROD doesn't really exist, its a false story fabricated by PS3 fanboys.
Wait a minute. I thought all conspiracies were made up by MS and 360 Fanboys. I don't know anymore.
But i Believe in my own two eyes And what i just saw was F****N RRoD
Where the 360 had RROD which was big enough proof for anyone that the 360 does have problems isnt good enough proof? The 360 does have an awesome library of games, but im not going to sit here and say the machine is an amazing art of work because in reality I still worry that it could die on me anytime. Had it RROD on me once already and let me tell u, sitting and waiting for your system to be repaired aint fun, luckilly I have a wii and a ps3 also incase of something like this ever to happen again.
i bought 360 6 months ago and RROD in first 8 hours...... first 8 hours damn it.... but it doesnt stop me buyin a new one... i love it....play Geow every freakin day.... but this is just the xtreme of fanboyism.... dude grow up "be a gamer not fanboy" enff said
He's just a dumbass troll. His IQ level isn't elevated enough to allow his brain to function in "real world thinking". Thus, he lives in an internet fanboy fantasy world. Or he was being sarcastic. Either way his post was a waste of bandwidth.
when i turned the wheel inside the PS2 to cure the DRE issue that was high tech to me.....lol but really i dont mess with circuit boards because i dont know what im doing I wonder how long and how much money these guys spent with this fix? maybe MS should hire em
Might not be a bad idea since warranties on the launch 360s end in the next couple of months. However, if it were as simple as putting rubber pads on the board, why has MS not done it?
I was asking myself the same thing.
so how exactly do the pads work?
why would someone risk voiding their warranty without knowing for sure if this works. How does anyone know this really works? MS hasn't ever really confirmed what is the cause of RROD. If this worked, MS would just put it in ever 360 sold. I hope members here aren't gullible enough to give their money away and risk costing themselves even more later.
What if you have an original 360, nearing the end of its warranty? Or cant find your receipt or proof of purchase from years ago, MS wont honour your Warranty? What about Modded consoles? What about people who just like to fiddle? There's lot's of reasons/people who might be interested in this. Obviously if you have a standard 360 in warranty your best bet it to just return it.
...You'd be very surprised.
"What if you have an original 360, nearing the end of its warranty?" RROD is covered. "Or cant find your receipt or proof of purchase from years ago, MS wont honour your Warranty?" RROD is covered out of warranty, no receipt required. "What about Modded consoles?" Not covered. That's the price you pay for pirating games. "What about people who just like to fiddle?" Also not covered. And don't complain that Microsoft doesn't cover "fiddling." That was your decision. Anything else?
@Solid_Snake: well lets start with the basic...you don't have to void the warranty ;) It works like I mentioned before just in part you need to do additional stuff to help, EVERYONE that has worked with a RROD knows what causes it and for obvious reason MS cant say it publicly (just to give you a rough idea a few months after the first 360s RROD people already knew the cause or had a rough idea) and finally if you know about building PCs and how the hardware works you shouldn't really care about the warranty since you can pretty much fix the RROD in your house in around 15 minutes (in more or less the same way MS does it but with out the extra stuff you can do to help prevent it in the future) :)
I took the risk and voided my warranty a while ago because I didn't like the original case that much and got a much better looking one. I also decided to replace the original fans and put a few more in also to keep it running cool and some lighting effects. My system looks better and hardly even kicks out warm air during heavy use so there are definite benefits to voiding warranty. Fixes like this one have been around for a while now and work as good if not better than the M$ refurb fix usually. @5.3 Modding a console isn't strictly related to playing pirated games either.
Not worth it unless your warranty is void.
Good thing only blind, dumb-fvck Lemmings get it. 360 is teh suck.
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people think about it, the country that Microsoft don't have official representation or SAT's, like Peru, Argentina, even her in Colombia we have official representation but if we send a xbox 360 for warranty we have to wait one and even two months for the new console. This kit is great because it no only fix the RROD problem, it also prevent it. Nobody have to wait a official report from Microsoft telling us which are the causes for RROD, the problem it's simple, overheating, the CPU and GPU chips separates from the mainboard.
haha, its not a columbian thing buddy. Right here in the US its at least a month to get it back....at least...
I guess you could tell if this doesn't work, but how could you tell if it does? Statistics would be your only measure.
This by itself will not fix it, depending on the quality of the "stuff" you use in the X-clamps it might only extend the life you also need to take care of cooling for a more effective solution :)
I though its a solution from MS, but turn out to be DIY fix... hope it work for those who gonna try it out, or as well by another one?
I remember when I had open up and calibrate the laser in my Playstation 1 in order to make it work. This was after the turn-it-upside-down trick stopped working =) The X-clamp method sounds easier. I have had RROD once, but used my warranty to get it fixed. If it should happen again(in 3 years from now when I have no warranty) it's good to know there's an alternative to just throwing it away.
I saw a similar post back in the hay-day of the RROD before the extended warranty was announced. They used an erase: http://www.eurasia.nu/wiki/... I used this trick on an old out of warranty 360 and it worked for me but i had all the tools etc. If your system is in warranty just send it in its not worth the risk because if you f'up M$ will not fix it. Who knows maybe you'll get a new system with the new stable chipset.
Than just X-Clamps to fix the RRoDs completely. If Xecuter can provide an alternate cooling solution, then that would truly cure the RRoDs.
Well for anyone that is wondering this is really more like "part 1" or "step 1" in the "fixing" of the RROD, you need to do at least 3-4 other things to even get close calling it a "anti RROD 360" and remember not all mods for the 360 related to the RROD require you to open the console...and still you can open it and not void the warranty ;)
There should not be a such thing as RROD tbh. And it certainly not be up to Team Xecuter to clean up Microsofts mistake.
If solder is allowed to flow freely then something is wrong.
Yeah, i've never heard of Solder flowing freely on a circuit board. Is that supposed to happen? I know it gets hot in there, but hot enough to melt the solder?
Thats really funny, the RROD is so bad they review the so called fixes for it. What a joke. 360 is the clown show of this generation. Its the crippled step son of gaming!
Whatever works. Maybe MS should hire them for the building of the next xBox. Ha!
It never says you have to do this. This is just an alternative method for people who can't wait for Microsoft to fix it. Or don't have any warranty left. What about my Xbox 360 warranty? Microsoft has recently offered an extended 3 year warranty against the RROD, so if you don't want to open your console yourself and void the warranty please feel free to contact Microsoft and wait up to a month to get a replacement console. For the rest of us who don’t want to wait and want to help prevent against ever getting the dreaded RROD, then Team Xecuter’s RROD kit is for you.
nothing beats having to buy the extended warranty each time your box dies. You can't beat the lovely faces of the best buy employees when say behind your back "he's getting another one again?!!" Its always better & less humiliating to call max in India & be the customer supports puppet by dismantling & building a 100% RROD for thier amusement. They will conquer & send as usual a U.P.S. Coffin. Great now you can take that vacation while still paying that monthly xbox GOLD member bill. Thats fantastic! What do you do with scratched disc? Why you trade them of course silly xbutt! If another a$$ bought a xbox then he deserves RROD too. Good For him! I'm proud of this rating. Its alot faster the wrapping towels & waiting 2 hours. We love RROD!
Quit buying the ticking time bomb.
I've had 3 RRODs. 1 a year. I look forward to my next one. That 10 dollar a year full coverage warranty is really great!
Easiest way to get a perma solution to this problem is just buy a PS3. 100% RRoD free since 2006!
If I understand this repair correctly you remove the thermal pads from the memory chips that tranfers heat to the metal case. This is not a good idea because the memory chips would then run hot!
it's not even a top loader.
I bought this kit last month and it works a treat. Now buying cheap rrod consoles off ebay to repair then sell on and so far i've fixed 6. :)
If anyone is skeptical about the leaving it on 20 mins part at the end it actually works some how!
I have a PS3 and it's really worth it! Yehey!
if i would of known this back in 07 wen my xbox started going bad i would have never sold, and yet i would hav never bought the ps3 and never found out how much better it is
Yea...let some kids teach M$ engineers how to solve the hardware problem they created. But seriously, don't play with warranty. If M$ eff up their system, they'll compensate but if you mod it and eff it up yourself, you're deep sh!t.
something similar to this, but it was called "x-clamp-fix" and it involved removing the xclamp and just using washers and different screws. Worked well, but had to do the towel thing one time shortly after, but it hasn't happened again since.
Honestly, the article is written incredibly poorly as well. Let the solder re-flow? WTF? These guys have no idea what they're talking about.
Actually, that is what happens. The solder on the GPU breaks because of the board bending from the x-clamps, when it is left on for 20 minutes it heats up the GPU enough to let the solder reconnect the GPU to the board
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