Rumor: PS2 Game Siren Spotted in PS4’s Live From PlayStation

First posted on Reddit, then noticed by members on NeoGAF with the caveat that it could be a fake, a user uploaded a PlayStation 4 screenshot that appears to show the PlayStation 2 game Siren being livestreamed on PS4.

[AizenSosuke]

Siren? Hell yeah!! hopefully this is true!

[TomShoe]

NBA Street Vol. 2.

Please.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Aw man why did you have to do that

[OCEANGROWNKUSH]

I reminisce, I reminisce...

[timmyp53]

Having all the episodes of Blood Curse tempted me to get a PSNow subscription. I want to play the yakuza games again but may just wait for Yakuza 1 remake.

PS2 BC would def be welcome.

[AizenSosuke]

Agreed my friend PS2 BC would be the best!

[himdeel]

Siren: BC was the scariest game on PS3.

[Ron_Danger]

You guys talking about PS2 BC made me remember this article from 2013:

http://m.ign.com/articles/2...

Sony has a patent to add trophies to PS2/1 games.

[HighResHero]

Another vote for PS2 BC here(NO download).
For now I can play them on my PC... or PS2.
Would love it if they added a PS2 emulator to a future update though ;x

[Concertoine]

These games were brutal hard but they were also very unique and i'd love to see the atmosphere of red skies and raining blood reimagined on ps4.

I remember seeing a rumor of Siren on a russian retailer. It seems like such a strange thing to see such an obscure series in a retailer "leak".

[AizenSosuke]

Yep loved it as kid and going to love now if true.

[miyamoto]

From the game maker of Silent Hill and Gravity Rush?

[NarooN]

Yep, Keiichiro Toyama.

[AndrewLB]

Now it's definitely going to be called the ReplayStation 4.

Uh... false alarm everyone. The screenshot is fake. They updated the story.

[excaliburps]

Only news that can make this better? A new PS4 Siren game! Do it, Sony!

[gangsta_red]

I agree, love the Siren games.

[ziggurcat]

it does say PS2... so maybe BC? probably not, though :(

[Agheil]

Replicating the PS2 isn't like replicating / emulating the Cell from the PS3. I wouldn't be surprised if was but then again, it would destroy the whol purpose of PSNow but again, you can't play PSNow games and Livestream at the same time. Anyways, I need time splitters back me life, anyone else feel the same ? Hahah

[Ron_Danger]

@arabiensoldier
I'm a huge Timesplitters fan also... Did you know about this??

Coming to PC & PS4: http://powerupgaming.co.uk/...

[Immorals]

@Ron_Danger

Timesplitters Rewind is coming to Xbox One as well

[Mr Logic]

@arabiensoldier

What are you talking about? The only games on PS Now are PS3 games. Yes, they talked about bringing older gen titles, but it hasn't happened so doesn't matter. PS3 BC would cannibalize PS Now $$$, but not PS1 and PS2 games. If anything they'll just start making money from the 25M+ PS4 owners out there who have money to buy PS1 and PS2 classics on the PS Store.

[snoopgg]

Yeah been waiting for a Timesplitters revive for awhile now.

[LonDonE]

Hell yes!!! siren bloodcurse on ps3 was scary as hell and felt like a true survival horror game.
I would love a siren vr game, hell even a standard ps4 siren game would be epic!

[HighResHero]

Until then, the prospect of SOMA making it to Playstation VR seems promising.

PS. Imagine a multiplayer co-op horror game you could play with your friends.

[Summons75]

Hopefully we can just redownload the ones be bought on Ps3... if this is true of course.

[SliceOfTruth888]

Everyone thinking disc BC better get their disappointed faces ready. This is going to be digital only and i welcome it

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

If it's digital I expect to see around the same amount of games the PS3 received digitally which was less than 100 out of what 2000+ PS2 games. If it's not full emulator disc support it will be disappointing.

[SoapShoes]

I don't see why not both. PS2 discs are becoming more expensive and rare... Most people wanting to replay those games would just buy digital anyway since most haven't kept their games.

[nitus10]

I have over sixty PS2 titles and even though I have a backwards compatible PS3 (Software and hardware emulation) three games fail between 5 and 10 hours in.

The problem with PS2 and also PS1 disks is that they don't have the special coating that the Bluray disks have so you have to be very careful not to scratch the CD and DVD disks.

One plus that PS1 and PS2 games have over PS3 games is that they are allot smaller data wise, this makes downloading them less of a disk hog than downloading PS3 games if the PS4 had backwards compatibility.

[Retroman]

@ slice of truth

how can you welcome something you can't see or touch dude ?? how can anyone be brainwash in buying anything digital.
who want to live in a digital world??

not me

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Because It's just a videogame. Can't see or touch LOL I don't care it's just a game. Brainwashed into buying anything digital? Get the entire **** out of here with the dramatics. So I'm supposed to have missed out on the countless great games over the last 10 years just because they were only available digitally? For what? To serve what purpose?

[paul-p1988]

I never understand this alarmist stance by people who own either a current gen console or a PC (I am just assuming you own at least one of them, if not then this is aimed at other people with the same opinion as you).

Whenever you buy a new PS4 or Xbox One game you put the disc in the drive, physical so far, but it then installs THE ENTIRE GAME to the HDD, no longer physical. At this point the only reason for the disc is for the console to look at it and then say to itself 'yes, you bought that game, now time to find all these files on the HDD, ignoring the disc, and play the game', or to take up valuable space in a cupboard... You don't get anything additional for buying physical anymore unless you get the collectors edition, most games don't even come with an instruction manual anymore as they include the full instruction manual as a digital file that is installed on your HDD as mentioned above.

PC has even less physical than console, and they love it. You either buy from Steam or similar stores, download a file and enjoy. The physical releases they get either install the full game and the disc is just there for validation, or in the case of I think it was MGS5, is just a launcher to Steam that downloads the game anyway.

Also, this point "how can you welcome something you can't see or touch dude ??" always makes me laugh. If people want physical always, which I can appreciate people have differing opinions, but buy their games from Amazon etc with DIGITAL MONEY, watch videos on Youtube (That's all DIGITAL! No physical file for you to touch there!) or even something like coming to N4G, why not read a games mag instead of coming to a load to code on a server you can't touch?!

I went full digital on my PS4 and Vita and haven't looked back. I now have more space in my house, can boot another game without hunting for the case, and if my HDD/Memory card crashes I just redownload the game from the store or copy it over from my PC backup. If my disc breaks I need to buy another copy of the game...

[triple_c]

Damn.. So Sony Japan is working on The Last Guardian, Gravity Rush, Gravity Rush 2, Hot Shots Golf AND possibly a new Siren game simultaneously?

Jesus.. Sony Japan must be a massive studio.

Also, how is it that Sony is announcing and investing in all these exclusives? I thought Sony was broke???

[SoapShoes]

They are Sony's largest studio.

[hkgamer]

read the article, no read the description, no just read the headline or look at the screenshot.

it says ps2.

so could be psnow library which would be a waste of bandwidth imo, or native backwards compatibility.

but yeah, sony japan is pretty big. think they work on lots of projects at the same time, but they also outsource many stuff.

[travestyj]

And if that one rumor about about a Bloodborne sequel is true, they may be co-developing it with From Software as well.

[ilikepizza]

They are broke....you act like you just listed anything huge lol,all of those games can run on a ps2. You are getting nothing but remakes because you idiots will run out and by Sony ports of ps3 games despite sony saying they brought gakai to help bring ps2/3 games to ps4 then turned it into a pay service. I had no idea if you owned a game you still had to pay for it on psnow,how f***ing pointless and greedy is that. Like wow Sony. Say what you want about Microsoft but it seems Sony is the one nickle and diming there fans.

Suddenly backwards compatability is earth shattering right?

[triple_c]

I should just mark your comment as trolling or report your comment since you're throwing out personal attacks but instead I'm going to address your stupid jargon for the hell of it.

1. Sony is not broke. 90% of Sony's studios are working on AAA games and Sony has actually released more AAA exclusives than Microsoft has and they also have more AAA exclusives than Microsoft does next year.

2. Also, let's use your retarded logic and let's say Sony is in fact broke (which isn't true btw), but if Sony is broke and they're dominating Microsoft this generation then what does that say about Microsoft? That honestly does not make Microsoft look good light now does it?

3. A bunch of Sony's studios are making unannounced AAA games as I mentioned earlier and Sony is still developing new IP's that aren't remakes or remasters like Gravity Rush 2, Uncharted 4, The Last Guardian, Horizon Zero Dawn, Gran Turismo 7, MLB 16: The Show and they're also funding the development of Street Fighter 5 which are all coming out next year so idc if they remaster games or make remakes so long as long as they don't get in the way of new games which they aren't.

Your whole argument about Sony being broke and giving PlayStation fans nothing but remasters and remakes has been destroyed. Better luck next time lol

[nitus10]

Oh really, well before you say things like that why don't you look at the share market.

If you are interested and I get the impression you aren't Sony's shares in the US market went from US17.77 in October last year to US$25.46 as of today. Given that and looking at the trends which appear to be fairly positive Sony is by no means broke.

Still a hater has to be a hater.

[scark92]

I would give them my money.. the question is.. do they want my money?

[neocores]

I really do see this happening. Ps3 ran on Cell sooo its very hard to Emu the ps3 to the 4. But the ps2 and 1 are a way diff story. much easier to do. I really hope this happens. Playstaion 2015 Experience we might see a huge announcement

[hkgamer]

im not expecting super good emulation, but hopefully we have choice to upres, widescreen support, aa, improve framerate. whatever pc emulation has.

i know its not a super powerful pc, but its made by sony and they should have 100% knowledge of the ps2. those extra things may make the game run worse, but if we have the option to choose whatever and customise then why not?

i dont have a good pc, so just thinking about ffxii 1080p just makes my mouth water.

[timmyp53]

A method and apparatus for adding trophy support games that do not have trophies without modifying the original game. The method and apparatus are used to detect particular disk access, use the detected disk access as potential trophy triggers in games, and recognize the triggers while a game is played. Trophies are awarded based on the triggers, and the awarded trophies are stored.

http://i.imgur.com/pJH5ol5....

[Minimox16]

I really really hope its true! imaging DQ8, Dark Cloud, rogue galaxy, FF12, and other like Burnout 3, GT3-4, THPS Underground, etc with trophies *_*!!!

[Vanfernal]

Siren is such an underrated series. I hope after they take a break from Gravity Rush they revisit these games.

[hkgamer]

only played parts of ps3 version. didnt like it be ause it was too dark, could barely see anything.

dont mind giving it another go though.

[Vanfernal]

You should. I know it has the whole film grain thing going on and it's very dark and claustrophobic. But once you get over that it is one of the best survival horror games of last gen.

[hkgamer]

yeah, understand that that it was a film grain effect. my eyes just doesnt adapt to games that are dark.
its either bad tv contrast, bad lighting in game or my colour deficiency played a part in it. or all 3.
anyway, its a game i would love to enjoy, but sadly i could t.

[ThePistolero]

It was great untill i read its a fake :(

[Antifan]

Don't know if the actual image is fake, but there's strong evidence to suggest PS1&2 Classics are coming to PS4.

[ocelot07]

Not sure if the image is fake or not. Here is one I took a screen grab of from the community section via PS4.

http://playstationeu.i.lith...

[BRINGSOCOMBACK]

Hmmmmmm

Awesome if true...

[kingdom18]

Hopefully if they do implement some sort of emulation for PS2 games they will render them at higher resolutions, love playing my old PS2 games with PCSX2, it would be nice to be able to do the same with the PS4.

[magiciandude]

Honestly, PS2 BC on PS4 wouldn't be a big deal. The idea is nice, but who buys a new console to play old games made for > a decade old console? Most people that had a PS3 with BC said they never played more than one PS2 game on it. Very likely this is Sony adding PS2 games to PSNow. Way too much money invested in that service to see Sony decided to focus on native BC.

[nevin1]

How is PSnow doing anyway?

[gangsta_red]

Sony should push the PSNow service a lot more. IMO this is a great feature to have and a definite answer to BC that appears on WiiU and is being rolled out for Xbox One.

Just reading these comments there is an obvious want and need to play older games even with these new consoles.

[nitus10]

I still have a backwards compatible PS3 and on occasion do play PS2 games but mainly for nostalgia. Graphics wise PS2 games are quite acceptable if you have a good HDTV.

All PS3's can play PS1 games but when playing on a large screen HDTV even with smoothing on PS1 graphics appear fairly grainy although the gameplay has not changed.

From what I can gather you can get a PS2 emulator for your PC so it should not be difficult for Sony to make a PS2 emulator for the PS4. As for PS1 disks which are on CD the PS4 will not read them so you need an image which means a digital download. Of course you may be able to play PS1 disks via software emulation on your PC.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Reddit > GAF

How does it feel to know you're no longer relevant?

[PhoenixUp]

I hope all Playstation Classics are compatible on PS4 to celebrate the 20th anniversary

[JamesBroski]

cool

(Sorry for Bad Bad Bad english)

[Kaiou]

new Siren for PS4 ? hell yea
PS2 version ? meh you can play it 4K on PC

[plmkoh]

Siren runs like crap on PC emulation, you have to dial down to software 3D rendering or frames rates drop down to 5-10. Try to scale the resolution above native and you have permanent screen stretch marks. Other levels won't even show you mission critical textures/videos like key pad combinations so you can't finish the game.

[Ulf]

I'm not sure why people feel excited about this. I still have my PS2, and I'm pretty sure I'm not paying Sony to play games I still have for it, or that I could buy used. The displayed title is obviously NOT a disc game, which means they're gonna make you buy it again.

Now if they bring PS1 support to the PS4, that's a whole different story -- I'd be stoked because I already own like 20 PS1 games on PSN. If they want to charge me again, though... no.

[AndrewLB]

The article has been updated and says the screenshot is actually fake. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

[ColonelHugh]

Alright Sony, give me my PS2 classic Persona 3 FES on PS4 and I can die a happy man. I'm sick and tired of Persona 4 Gs upbeat atmosphere every time I need my persona fix.

Throw in trophy support and I'll know Sony is actually Buddha incarnate

[mixelon]

Aww. This is great news! But it's sort of a shame. There's no reason a ps4 couldn't emulate a PS2 - the PS3 even did a reasonable job for a bit without the dedicated chips. I can understand no PS3 BC - it's hardware design was so absolutely weird it'd be nigh impossible to emulate, but the PS2 is comparatively easy and they already have the source for the beginnings of an emulator.

So.. Boo... But yay also.

[blakstarz]

There was talk years ago during the PS4 launch that Siren was coming to PS4, but as a new game, so maybe this is the start of the new beginning.

[UNKLE]

its confirmed fake...PS1/PS2 BC never gonna happen because of new sony.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Hell yeah, Siren was awesome.

[fitfox]

Recently started playing this for the first time, its really good! i like the horror stealth aspect.