THERE ARE A ton of 'rumors' floating around about Nvidia giving up the ghost on it's ailing chipset division. Nvidia is desperately trying to deny it, but don't believe the spin, the division is deader than an Nvidia mobile GPU.
wow...this is something crazy....
And then the droids will probably be on about RROD even after the ps3 is gone.
The quality has been going down the toilet! It was only a matter of time!
You stupid fuk. Your parents should feed you rat poison. Maybe slip a few rat poison pills in your PBJ.
yeah, ps3 got stuck with a standard shader array gpu. its pipes can't redirect coming ops based on workload, which means SEVERELY decreased efficiency when games begin to switch concentration of either vertex or pixel performance. though, the 7series based chip in the ps3 DOES have superior pixel performance, and just a tad higher fillrate. still, i know that ati/amd have made a real killing. go to newegg, look up intel and amd cpus. at comparable pricing, i can get a 4 core amd proc verus a 2 core intel. although the name brand plays a huge role, i'd still pick anything from amd/ati over intel/nvidia ANY DAY!
never would have thought that nvidia would fall like that, what will they make now?
Their only talking about the chipsets in motherboards. NVidia will still make GPUs I'm sure...
that nvidia also bought some game company, or it was intel i forgot but it wouldnt be that much of a stretch for them to expand in that direction
Intel bought the developer making Project Offset.
How will this effect me? I don't keep up with chipsets and stuff. Will this cut competition and make computers more expensive or something?
unless you planned on buying an nvidia chipset.. it wont.
Im not much of a pc gamer, but the majority of people that use computers only use the 6600 series. That pretty much limits to games that came out in the past 2 years. I bought a brand new computer last year, spent 1000 bucks and I couldnt even play the new Total War on it. Whats the point of making these low end chips if people cant use them anyways. In the end it only hurt them.. Serves them right.
Ati has no serious competition!
Hell, who would of thought that AMD made the right choice when buying Ati?
My last nvid board had problems with my cpu reading 100 percent. Went to a non sli board no issues. I'm currently running a high end intel board, zero trouble.
Which board? X48? i just purchased the X38, and i'm about to assemble the parts.
...that whoever wrote the article really, REALLY wanted you to believe they were dead in the water. They may be, but that really didn't give this author any right to say things like "don't believe the spin" or anything like that, nor did that give him the right to say that they wanted to "pretend" to do ANYTHING. The last line of people saying "don't let the door hit you on the way out" was a firm indication that he REALLY was hoping this story was real and what he thought was true, and that he wanted you guys to think it was factual. Now, I can't speak for Nvidia and if there really IS an issue with their chipsets like this (nor do I have any reason right now to care), but c'mon, this kind of story writing is ridiculously unnecessary.
@dark power: you do know this is the inquirer? only kidding...yeh the inq's like that, they are a rumour led news site, so its kind of their field to say things like nvidia chipset is dead and stuff. but the thing is they are right from time to time so I wouldn't rule it out of the question.
They're probably popping open the bubbly as we speak!
Nvidia will always be safe in the GFX card department, so even if their chipsets fail they have something concrete to fall back on, something they do tremendously well. We're onto the 9 series now. Nvidia are doing fine overall, they have my custom anyway, I'll be getting my Gfx cards from them in the future.
you could get more for your money with amd/ati. Phenom Quad vs Intel Core2 Duo. 4 cores for the same price as 2. Plus, ATI's Radeons are equally competitive to nVidia's offerings. the 3870x2 has been a remarkable success and a popular upgrade in the custom pc sector. get 2 of those in crossfire and you've got 4 gpus. run a quad crossfire and you've got 8! intel and nvidia have the marketing strength, but added with that is the extra you pay to get what is essentially LESS for your money. ill take a phenom x4/radeon hd3970x2 over anything from intel/nvidia any day.
Oh come on, Phenoms are crap. A E8400/E8500 is totally worth it's price more then a phenom. Also, you should get more up to date with your argument. The 3xxx series from Ati wasn't all that great. It's newer line is much better. But still, if you want the best you go to nvidia. I recently built a system with a E8400 ( took it up to 3.5 ghz) and a super super clocked GTX 280 ( was only a bit over 500$) which performs stellar. I thin you need to research your point better.
This is a bit odd. But I suppose it's down to the lack of OEM contracts. nForce 790i mobos were superior to the Intel Skulltrail config in terms of gaming performance. The SLi scalability was enormous, Skulltrail found difficulties negotiating the hard-set vsync function in games such as Crysis, which nForce boards overcame with ease. Word to the wise: if Crysis is your game, nForce is the only choice. Just set vsync off in your driver settings and in-game settings, especially if you have a multi gpu solution. It's not so much a hardware problem with Skulltrail, but driver issue, which has yet to be resolved. But don't be fooled, chipset is slang for motherboards these days. Nvidia won't bow out of the GPU market yet, at least until Intel call's their bluff and delivers something astounding. And do not doubt them, no one on EARTH knows CPUs like Intel. GPUs are merely an attempt at reverse engineering the micro-processor, patented by Intel. If anyone can deliver real-time ray-traced gaming, it's Intel.
yeah, but innovations come as a collaborative effort. from many companies. intel may be a world leader, but they are not the originator. they are not the master. they are a piece of the equation. if not for amd's efforts in maintaining focus in the mid-range sector, we'd all be stuck paying for intel's expensive prices. amd/ati has been proven to be a successful merger between two companies who deliver outstanding quality, performance and pricing. right now, i'm on an hp dv9535 notebook pc. Intel c2d 5250, nvidia geforce 8600m gs. So I don't despise them in any way. I just feel that it's a great thing to be able to build a system that competes on equal grounds with something that just may end up costing you a lot more.
The guys at the Inqurer website can never post truthful news. This is another example of news that you should not believe from that site.
This site is a joke, I can't believe people on n4g are still stupid enough to post this crap, it always turns out completely opposite of reality.
790fx am/am2 based board amd phenom x4 9850 ati radeon hd 3870x2 (or hd4850) dual in crossfire 8gb mushkin ddr2 1066 = intel bye bye, nvidia bye bye
Why? If I have to buy ATI from now on...I'll shoot myself.
iv'e owned geforce2 mx 200 (pci, 32mb sdr) geforce fx 5200 (agp, 64mb ddr) ati radeon x1600 (agp, 512mb ddr2) right now, im on a geforce 8600m GS (pci-e x16, 256mb ddr2), but that's only because it's in a laptop. i've owned only one ati but i just felt so much happier when I did. recenltly i've constructed a new desktop from the ground up around ati/amd. i've gone red, baby!
What's with all the fanboyism? I'm running an AMD Athlon dual core and a Nvidia8800gt. AMD cpu because it was $100 less for the same performance (minus overclocking abilities) 8800gt because when i got it the 3870 was the same price for less performance. Both companies make fantastic products. What's wrong with that?
Strange, I have an Nvidia Chipset and it's really good. Other than SLI, their chipsets are great overclockers. I think Nvidia as of late has been getting the short end of the stick from the press because they dominated the market for a long time, they are becoming the new scapegoat. The guy on this site has always gone for Nvidia's throat, maybe not everything he says is off base but he comes off as biased. I'm still a fan of Nvidia and AMD, but Nvidia is still my preference. I'm rooting for both companies to stand up to Intel.
NVIDIA chipsets are hit and miss. Some are good, some are not.
The C2Q is much better for gaming than Phenom. It is also a lot more Over-Clocking friendly. I am saying this as my laptop uses a Turion AMD X2 1.6 ghz cpu, my home desktop has an AMD X2 5600+ and my office machine has AMD X2 5000+ Black Edition. Don't get me wrong, amd makes awesome chips and for multi-tasking they are better but in the multi-core era, intel takes the crown. But as someone mentioned the price on amd chips as they are MUCH cheaper defenitely makes them worthwhile. Remember the article that intel was to deny nVidia the Nehalem chipset as nvidia wouldn't let intel use sli tech. Sli is nice but the problem is that nvidia always releases a newer video card that outperforms an earlier model sli anyway. m2n-sli mb amd x2 5600+ geforce 9600gt 512mb ddr3 apevia 600 watt psu 250gb sata hdd 4gb ocz sli dual channel pc6400 ddr2 8 fans (4x 120mm) bunch of other crap that doesn't pertain to gaming
theinquirer.net nuff said
It uses Nvidia, will future PS3's use ATI? and how would the get around the whole Microsoft/ATI thing?
The Nvidia chipsets have nothing to do with the Nvidia video cards or GPU, just like how Sony selling the Cell manufacturing plant doesn't effect the PS3. Chipsets = motherboard. This is only of interest to hardcore PC gamers, even then it doesn't mean much to PC gaming in general. Nvidia SLI and ATI's Xfire doesn't have much of a future and anyways, its all about the X2 cards now.
I really think Charlie is trying to make something huge out of something small. If you read the previous article he wrote on the 31st you would know that this seems rather ridiculous. In that article he made this big deal about Foxconn, Gigabyte, and DFI not bringing nForce 790i mobos to the market. The thing that is not being talked about in these articles is that the sales of the recent NVIDIA chipsets have been really good. To make a long story short I really just this think Charlie is pissed at NVIDIA. He has been for a really long time. If he thinks he can find something negative to say about them he will. When all is said and done the NVIDIA chipset will live on. The continuation of this product will be shown this Fall. And lo and behold it will most likely sell much better than anything dear old Charlie at TheInq could ever imagine. Cry Charlie cry...
...to the Inquirer. These are the same people who told us AMD were a BIOS update was all it took to institute Reverse Hyperthreading to make the Athlon outperform Intel's Core 2 Duos: http://www.theinquirer.net/... (It's been two years, we're still waiting). Theo and Charlie have always been full of tripe, and stating it like divine certainty. So yeah, Nvidia's chipset business is dead....just like Reverse Hyperthreading is real... Don't believe a word these people say. Baseless, factless, sourceless garbage. They've always had a pro-AMD bias, and now that AMD own ATI they're always taking every shot they can get to chip away at their main graphical rival Nvidia. I find it no suprise they're chasing the story and trying to drive it to new extremes.
Guess I will be upgrading to an AMD/ATI machine for Rage and Doom 4 after all. It has been a nice run, Intel/Nvidia.
If your getting a new quad or dual core processor then for this time go with Intel, if you going for a new graphics card then either ATI or Nvidia will do, depends on your budget though.
So you bought a rubbish processor when the Q6600 is alot better, its cooler and its can be overclocked to at least 4GHz quite easily.
with the money you save on this setup, you can grab a zalman like i did and get the same results. and BTW, MEGAHERTZ MYTH, anyone? it's not my fault intel is going to spend the next years trying to undo to harm they did back with their pentium 4s. they dropped that moniker just so they could start fresh, with a new thinking. that the "core" architecture matters more than just the speed. so, overclocking doesn't really have as much a bearing in todays world anyway. what matters that you're getting that speed when you're constantly eyeing the temps?
I agree. AMD have yet to really make a processor that can best the Q6600. It's cheaper because it's inferior, not because AMD felt like cutting the consumer a great deal. Not meaning to knock AMD really, but they've got nothing on the high end, the low end phenoms are outperformed by the Athlon X2's and the better versions struggle with Intel's offerings on the same level, and then there's no answer to the Q9xxx series, let alone Bloomfield coming in November.
they are. they have created a well balanced and well implemented architecture from the motherboard chipset to the central processor. and with ati's proven success in the graphics sector, now they have a firm footing in all three fields. a phenom x4/790fx board/radeon hd3870x2 is all the rage these days. three crucial aspects of the system building process, and they've made them well priced. build that system and tell me what YOU think. run a few of today's truly remarkable pc games and judge for yourself. if it sux, than it's NOT the hardware. you just suk at building systems. i've been building for quite a while now, and though i've built a GREAT majority of them around an intel/nvidia architecture i always feel sorry that my system's buyers had to pay so much for something they may need to upgrade later anyway. there IS NO future-proof PC, so why spend more to get one?
GPUs arent going anywhere anytime soon
My recent build was a pretty damn good system. AMD "Phenom 9850 Black Edition" 2.5ghz Quad Core HIS "ATI Radeon 4850" 512mb GDDR3 (256bit) PCI-e 2.0 x16 MSI K9A2 Platinum AM2+/AM2 "AMD 790fx" Mushkin XP 4gb Ascent w/eVCI (2x2gb) DDR2 1066 PC2-8500 Seagate Baracuda 7200 rpm 250gb SATA 3.0gbs "Perpendicular Recording" Philips 20x DVD+/-R w/LightScribe 2-tone ABS Tagan BZ Series 800watt "Piperock" modular PSU Thermaltake Armor+MX VH8000BWS Black Aluminum mid tower ATX Zalman CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 ball CPU cooler it's just b8tchin! this thing rocks incredibly! edit at below: thanx man. all i can say is work hard learn your trade and build with the blood sweat and tears you shed. make the system YOURS! the rig cost me about $1300, with like $200 in rebates off of newegg. style...it's all about style. get that thermaltake armor, zalmann 110 2 ball and that tagan bz, you'll be pleased with the visuals!
Pretty sweet system. I can upgrade to a Phenom but I enjoy the 65 watt power consumption. You have a beast of a system.
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