Adding proof to Ars Technia's report that sometime this September Microsoft will be price cutting all Xbox 360 SKUs, the VGChartz.com crew posted their own insider price cut evidence.
I wonder why current owners of the console care about this, could much of the digging be PS3 fanboys trying to keep Sony somewhat informed?(not saying this post was submitted by a PS3 fan). Like I said the Wii is in a market in between the handheld market and console market so to speak, the powerhouse side of the console market will have a leader this generation based on being in the mass consumer price range first.
I want a official one and dont wanna go through the pain of making it work. I don't want some ugly beast hanging off my 360. The HDD is overpriced and should be lowered no matter what. @ The Mart. I don't want to void the warranty. I rather wait and pay ,than construct my own.
Yah that was strange I seen your reply and not Arsenic13's and when I came back in here, you were now under Arsenic13's post that was not there 5 minutes ago. Some times offensive news will cause PS3 fanboy traffic to overload this site, like an bottleneck. EDIT: this post is in response to #2.3, how This post ended up above the comment I was replying to I do not know. Sony fanboys may be attacking this site. I READ SOME PS3 FANBOY THINKS, LOWERING THE PRICE BY $50 IN 3 YEARS IS A SIGN OF DESPERATION BECAUSE MSFT IS GOING TO DO IT AGAIN. PS3 WAS DROPPED BY $200(through drops and SKU swaps)IN IT'S FIRST YEAR. LOL
I guess they are getting ready for the Christmas season
just cos its whooping the xbox doesn't mean it suddenly doesn't count. If the wii was struggling in sales it wouldn't be discounted so much by fanboys.
this makes it sooooo much easier for me to afford a 360
But just to think, that 199$ is less, then PS2 price in Europe.. that is something.. =) of`course ps2 price in NA is 129$, but still.. =) Overall, pricecut is a good thing for a consumer.
Dang! $200? That's not bad, even though it doesn't bring a HDD, but neither does the Wii and that cost $250!
This may only be for that store, or it may be temporary. Also, why would only the arcade price reduction be in the computer? I used to work at Game Crazy and we got price changes in batches, not one at a time.
That will definately do something for the sales. It will be the cheapest console on the market! O_O I don't think Nintendo and SONY will drop their price for another 2 years. (If we're still alive)
But look at the Previous Promo Price and then the Current Permanent Price. It may just be a term they use.
They must be desperate, with their out of date hardware. Its obvious they are dumping off old units to make way for a new console and then screw all the customers who bought these cheap 360s. Plus they are obviously factory refurbished units.
I've got the best the Wii has to offer. Iv'e got the best the xbox 360 has to offer. I have played with a PS3 and I like it. I have even set up Ubuntu PPC version on the PS3 for my nephew...pretty sweet when you go off to collage. In my opinion the xbox 360 is the best console this generation, hands down. I would expect (Guess) MS will launch a smart multi load DVD version at some point to counter the storage issue, which will offset the benefit of HD storage (Blue Ray). It will be nice to have three games loaded, or one Blue Dragon set of three discs. This will of course be the elite edition. I think MS is definatley going for DLC for HD needs. Next Gen it will all be DLC, no media IMHO.
Does the arcade version come with a hard drive?
Arcade system comes with a 256mb memory card. Enough memory to store a butt load of save game files.
arcade is useless as some games require a hardrive to play
@above. False. One game requires a harddrive for online play. One. And only for online play. Take your garbage FUD to the open zone >>>>
You don't need a HDD to play games. A memory card is needed to save your games and the Arcade pack comes with one.
If true this = huge holiday sales for gears of war 2. Hopefully it breaks records.
You seriously think Gears2 is going to beat GTAIV? :P
no, since its not multiplat. but itll sell maybe just as much as halo 3.
Gears 2 should have stellar sales though. -Death
I believe Halo3 is still king as far as the most sales in a 24 hour period. GTA IV wasn't able to top it and the other big game to come out MGS4 didn't even get near it! it only sold 770k last NPD reporting..
$199 just looks so attractive...we'll see...
care to explain how its fake?
Because if the wii cant drop to below 200 then 360 cant either.
Just as I believe Elvis is the Dark Knight!! >:P
But why should it? The Wii is still sold out everywhere at $250. What would the point of selling it for less be? -Death
Production costs are different for the 360 and Wii.
I'm sure the Wii can do a price cut if it wants to depending on demands. I'm glad Xbox is doing a price cut, cuz that would force wii to do one as well, then I have an excuse to buy one :)
it seems like a very desperate move for Microsoft. This move will only keep the 360 ahead in America for a little longer. I don't blame Microsoft there is really nothing else they can do to slow Sony's momentum down. I think PS3 will still be able to outsell 360 in the holiday season just because of LBP, MGS4, Socom, and the growing rate of Blu-ray and if it does i think we can say Microsoft is finished this gen.
Your body called, and it wants its head back from sonys a$$. I am sure Micro$oft and sony will do fine. Really does it matter in the end which one did better? Competition is keeping things progressing for us, be thankful for that. no need for one console to rule them all.
How many price cuts has the ps3 have already had? This is the 360's second price cut in 3 years. With parts being cheaper and profits being high, it's the perfect time and a normal process for a price cut.
Microsoft has significantly reduced the cost of manufacturing the 30. So they can afford to reduce the price of the consoles at retail themselves. It's not desperation. It's about frickin time. The 360 has been out for almost 3 years in US. The core/arcade launched at $299.00 so for the arcade/core to be reduced to $199.00 mean in almost 3 years Microsoft has only reduced the price by $100.00 The 20GB Pro/Premium launched at $399.00 it is being replaced by a 60GB Pro model that will be reduced to $299.00. So in almost 3 years the Pro has only dropped $100.00 added HDMI and 40GB more HDD space. The 120GB Elite launched at $479.00 in 2 years time it will have only been reduced by $80.00 by the time this price drop hits. Once again what you want to call desperation because of your pro PS3/anti 360 agenda will be seen by consumers as a welcome price reduction that has been long overdue. Edit: I own all 3 consoles. So I don't feel the need to compare games. Since I will have access to all of the games. But this nonsense about the 360 being finished is getting rather old. Your whole comment reeks of jealousy and insecurity. Something us dual consoles owners don't have to worry about.
Lowering the price on a two year old piece of hardware is desperate? Do you expect to buy a Pentium 4 processor for the original price? How about a 2006 model car? Of course not! It's normal for prices to come down. It's not a sign of desperation. Price cuts allow more people to buy a product, even if it's just to sit alongside their PS3.
Response derived from reading a bunch of fanboys response to price cutting and fanboy mentality. PS3 cut their price almost immediately after launch because of Sony's arrogance expecting that all will shell out $600 for a "superior" product. Superior or not, that strategy didn't work out and they had to cut the price and stores were stacked with unsold product, is that desperation? Could be, but it was a smart move to cut the ps3 price. The XBox 360 isnt going anywhere, the ps3 isnt going anywhere so accept it, get the console that fits your needs instead of creating a troll fest... Flame on! go!
"Your body called, and it wants its head back from sonys a$$" f'ing funny, bubbles for u!
LOL! I know some Sony fan girl will call this move desperate.. Hmm wonder which move is more desperate two price cut in 3 years that equals 100 dollars or the same price cut after only 6 months on the market like the PS3 had! Of course when Sony did it they were being praised..
The PS3 will not pass the Xbox 360 in worldwide sales. Ever. The PS3 will not pass the Xbox 360 in American sales. Ever. Repeat those two realities and perhaps someone will start to take you seriously.
Wonder what games they might pack in. I was close to getting an Elite last week, but wasn't too interested in the pack ins and decided to wait. Glad I did, now I can shave off $50.00 and maybe get something else included.
Word of advice, don't get the Arcade pack if you are a hardcore gamer. It's not worth it in the long run.
They need to be dropping the price on the hdd equipped models and do away with the Arcade unit. It's really just a bait and switch move on the part of Microsoft, since if you actually want to use your 360 to it's full capability you will probably want to have a hard drive.
Wow the 360 is the price of a psp now lol I'd buy the arcade model, but I really don't wanna go back to using memory cards. Eh, nvm. Just remembered my boycott.
Doesn't your response mean that you care?
= epic failure.
Yeah, cause the totally can't you know...buy one later!
360 hardware = Epic Failure. :)
Fanboyism = the death of gaming and humongoloid failuramus.
Hey Montrealien! pench your sh!t in the gamer zone and not the open, in here no one give a rat @ss what you think so GTFO.
the open zone. I think you don't understand the concept. You attack each other on the consoles, I attack you guys for being the fantarts most of you are. I can't do that in the gamer zone...
So if you get an elite, does that means your paying 200$ extra for a hard drive and a wireless controller. Dang, that's just wrong.
The Xbox 360 Arcade comes with a wireless controller and a Memory Unit. The MU retails for $50 alone. Nobody wants to hear it, but the Arcade has been the best value since it launched. -Death
which is only 512 megabytes, is being charged for $50 separately? Yeah... sweet deal all right... >_>
With Microsoft lowering the prices of the 3 models. This means that sony might drop their price also. and I know that my brother has beening dieing to get both the 360 and a PS3 but can't afford them at this point. And I am sure he is tried of having to come over to my place on the weekends to finish MGS4. and I don't know if I want him around when gears 2 and LBP come out. At the price these consoles have been at. it has left a lot of people in the cold that would love to join in, on the now current gen of consoles. Droping the price is a great move the help further grow the industry.
At this point in time, Sony is already losing enough money on production of the PS3. I think once production costs are lowered, Sony will drop the price of the PS3. Hopefully it's not too much longer because I want one.
"Our strategy is not to sell more quantity for PS3 but to concentrate on profitability...Our plan is not to reduce the price." http://www.beurs.nl/nieuws/... They said this during the 20 gigs price cut.
This cuts the PS3 DEEP! It cuts the WII deep!
And when it RRODed it will cuts xbots DEEP. :)
a Ps3 RLOD'S it cuts 150 dollars deeper to get it repaired
360 = 33% PS3 = -1% between 33% and -1% i'll take my chance on the PS3. :)
You know what's sad, and just shows the glaring bias in the gaming world? Is the fact that when the ps3 gets a price cut, you hear a million people saying "yeah, but it's gimped. It's the gimped version" When the xbox 360 gets a 200 dollar sku, no one comes out and says "yeah, but it's the gimped version. It's gimped" I'm just being honest here, as usual. I don't play sides and this is just something that has always bothered me. If this is true, it's the gimped version that's getting the 200 dollar tag. ha! Edit to below: Man, if I had a nickel for everytime I hear this. I wish I was Games blow, I really do. This guy is a legend and the worst part, for nothing. He's got more people talking about him than Paris Hilton and there isn't a need for it. I am not him. I don't know him other than from his website, Neo Gaf and here and I know that there are 4 others out there with his name on other forums. That's what I know about the guy. People say I'm Gamesblow, fine. Think it if you want, but I'm not. I watched 2 of his videos and read some of his news on Neo-gaf and that's it. I really wish this whole thing would stop, cause it's exhausting to say the least. I've posted my I.P. and name against his and people have seen we are nearly 3000 miles apart. < As seen and shown from a speedtest on ps forums. This isn't the 1st time I've been told this, believe me. I can't tell you anymore than this man.
I see what you are saying... unrelated to what you said though, a certain guy by the name of Gamesblow used to always put "Ha!" at the end of his comments here on n4g...right in the exact place that you put yours my friend...not saying you are him...it's just a huge coincidence...you guys might be cousins man...lol @Silogon...I believe you man...it's cool, no problem...
the only Difference betweent the pro and the arcade is the hdd which can be added later you can't put the hardware componenets missing form the 399 Ps3 back in later that the 599 Ps3 has that is why they call it a gimped version
only some selective x360 models have HDMI support no x360 model has wifi no x360 model has next gen drive plus u pay 50$ for LIVE all ps3s support HDMI 1.3. but only some x360s support hdmi 1.2 The ps3 costs 400$ now. the mGS4 bundle is 500$ which is effectively 450$ since Mgs4 game costs 50$ plus with ps3 at 400$ you get all the features as the elite +wifi + hdmi 1.3 +next gen blu ray player + free online
So cahill.. What if I'm fine with just watching my regular DVDs, want an online experience that is easy and no need the hassle of having different IDs for games and one that is actually realiable. Also since I know when playing online your better hard wired rather than being on wifi so I dont really need wifi.. What console should I get now?
News if true. For gamers and I stress gamers(fanboys of systems will always find some fault somewhere). A 199 starting range is perfect for people that really dont have much money to spend and just want a system for gaming and if they do decide that they want to do the xbox live thinga nd downloads then ms will be brining out a new package that contains 60gig hard drive 3 months xbox live and headset for teh same price as the 20 gig now(89 dollars in walmart). The 199 also is a attractive price point for people looking for a second system that want to play some of the exclusive coming the 360. The 299 I think is the best value and teh one most people will get.
you hit the nail on the head.
How bout just buy the premium for $300 then? Wait that wouldnt make sense. These are xbots we are talking about. If you cant buy a 360 cause your low on money, maybe you shouldnt be buying one at all,, freakin retards. I bought a 20 gig for 350,, dont see me freaking out about that do ya?