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Under new president, this is still Satoru Iwata’s Nintendo — and it’s at a crossroads

The Super Mario Bros. company has a new leader today, but he’s planning to guide the publisher in the same direction it was already marching in.

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XboxOneX3147d ago

Nintendo RIP?

I hope this is not the end for Nintendo because I have always enjoyed playing Mario and Zelda games.

LOL_WUT3146d ago

Nintendos pressence as a gaming company under Iwata has been the worst theres no way theyll ever go back to their glory days if they follow in his footsteps ;)

3-4-53147d ago

* They already have a new handheld & console in the works that have been i development for over two years.

You don't just scrap that....you just don't.

All the mistakes and needed changes(from Wii U/3DS) were addressed from within(company), prior to them committing to new hardware.

Games are already in development for both the NX handheld & NX console.

You don't just scrap and get rid of all that.

* If Square Enix is on board for Dragon Quest 11 for the NX, then that is a good sign that 3rd party support is back for Nintendo.

Connect the dots people.

DragoonsScaleLegends3146d ago

All I know is that if I have to buy my Nintendo classics for a forth time(Cartridge/Wii/Wii U) I'm not buying their next platform. All of these games I repurchased on Wii U for a third time better transfer to this NX mystery box.

wonderfulmonkeyman3147d ago

According to Todo, not the new president.

Unless Nintendo announces otherwise at E3 2016, it's more logical to assume they'll stick with their 5 year precedent, and continue with their habit of releasing new home consoles the year following their unveiling.

That means NX in 2017.

C_Ali883146d ago

I'm aware of who said it but why say it as fact when nothing has been confirmed?

That was where my incredulity stemmed from not that it would be released in 2016....

Also it doesn't matter what you think is logical, Apple has been successful going from announcement to product launch in a matter of weeks to months. They have stated multiple times the NX a third pillar product not one to usurp 3ds and Wiiu's positions and have been changing their internal philosophy.

PigPen3147d ago

That's good news. I hope he mixes it up a little.

-Foxtrot3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

"Satoru Iwata’s Nintendo"

Is that Nintendo we want though.

Look I know it's mostly because he wants to respect the guy but he's gone, he's in charge now and if agrees some things won't work out then I hope he speaks his mind, he did think the Wii U was going to fail (and it did) so hopefully he'll have the balls to go "No...we're not doing that, I don't think it will work".

I get it, it's all about respect but if everyone was like that after their predecessors died then no company would ever change. Hell I'd understand if Nintendo were on top of the world, the Wii U was a huge success and they did everything in the book correctly where you would want to keep going but Iwata didn't really set them on that path did he.

wonderfulmonkeyman3147d ago

Considering all the profits and confidence he garnered from share holders despite the low unit sales of the Wii U, I'd say Iwata put them on a pretty damned good path for long-term success.

They said early on in the Wii U's life that they considered it to be a marathon, not a sprint, and they've done pretty well for themselves despite all their social media mis-steps.

Get_A_Job_Foxtrot3146d ago

I'm not a shareholder. I'm a customer. Or at least I WAS a customer until Iwata screwed it all up.

Knushwood Butt3146d ago

If the Wii U was a marathon it got carried away on a stretcher before the 11km post.

wonderfulmonkeyman3146d ago

@ Ava
You SHOULD care, though, because those profits, not the Wii U's unit sales, are what keep Nintendo in business and allow them to do things like bring Fatal Frame out over here and give Bayonetta 2 a home, amongst other things.

No matter how you spin it, Iwata did more good than bad for Nintendo.

Concertoine3146d ago (Edited 3146d ago )

I agree that Iwata did more good than bad, and i think many people mistake longtime problems rearing their head with these problems being inherently Iwata's.

But Ava's right. For every Bayonetta there's a million multiplats that have skipped the Wii and Wii U because of its atypical hardware. Then we have stuff like voice chat or a proper network or transferrable purchases which Iwata has allowed their development houses to ignore for way too long.

Look at the gamecube, it sold poorly but people still loved it for trying new things with software. We saw a luigi game, mario in a new setting, we saw the deepest fighting game ever with Melee, we saw the two best Resident Evil games ever, and new IP's like Animal Crossing and Pikmin.

Iwata brought in numbers, but for what? For the company to stagnate with no new internal, retail IP's for over a decade, no Star fox, no F-Zero, and more Mario and Zelda reliance than ever. They got cocky and lazy and fell harder than ever, that is not the leadership i want.

I always say, objectively Iwata was the most successful CEO in gaming history. More net profit than anyone else. But to the fans, the company's refusal to adapt could only be stomached by a declining minority that were either apathetic or in it for the software alone. At this point consoles are more than just games, they're about experience, and Iwata could not see this.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10113d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218312d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos12d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai13d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197213d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197213d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218312d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto12d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel19d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8818d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing18d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS18d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder17d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218317d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.