First images from 360 Avatar creator

X3F were just contacted by their super secret source who forwarded these images that are supposedly from the Fall update's 360 Avatar creator.

[Omega4]

Wow they have certainly surpassed Mii customization and i dont even think HOME avatars go as deep as letting you select ear-rings, rings and watches

[eagle21]

Have you seen the avatar customization videos for Home? They have the most extensive customization ever. Facial bone structure, eyes, hair, etc. Clothes and ear rings? Home has better everything. You can mention the Mii's, but seriously don't ever mention Home vs. this...lol

[Superfragilistic]

It appears certainly deeper than Miis but we know nothing of the final Avatars nor the full extent of Home's features.

But for something that's made for the mainstream, it doesn't look very casual and easy to use like the new dashboard. I'm not convinced this is the real thing.

[Monchichi025]

We can really compare which ones will be better since the final options have not even been announced yet! This is just a rumor, and one with not to much detail at that! Mii's, Avators, Home characters.... won't tell which ones will be best till final versions are released. So let's leave this flamewar at...To be continued!!!

[Omega4]

Yeah i think i have seen some HOME video but it never mentioned anything about selecting rings, ear rings etc maybe whole costumes but Avatars got that anyway.

Also when you throw in the fact that this will b released before HOME and has deeper customization kinda makes Sony look pathetic

HOME development time: 3years
Avatar dev time: less than a year (most likely)

MS Avatars > HOME Avatars

MS sure knows how to do online the right way without delays

[eagle21]

Did you type that with a straight face? Are you even serious? Home was announced Feb. 2007, I don't know what calendar you use but it hasn't been 3 years since then.

The fact you can use the word "pathetic" in reference to the competition after you click the link above makes me cry with laughter.

HOME is in a whole another league than this Sesame Street looking stuff.

[eagle21]

Anyway, this looks pretty rushed and cartoony. Home is adult and miles ahead of this application. It doesn't matter how much uninformed information you post. It won't change how this looks to almost everyone and every site on the internet who has an opinion about it. :)

[TVC15]

the organization seems pretty random

[mfwahwah]

Update: Just to be clear, the two images we posted are NOT screenshots from the Fall dashboard but are instead a collection of image thumnbails and artwork that are supposedly used in the Avatar creator. We just created a image "collage" to make for easier viewing.

[Superfragilistic]

Well if that's the case I'm not so worried... Because the collage if it were the actual UI, I'd call it a messy, complicated disgrace. ;)

[pow3r of t3h c3ll]

absolutely terrible, I feel sorry for xbots cus M$ is going the way of casual wii gamers so they will have nothing good to play in the future while we PS3 owners will still have real games to play!

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA!!!!

[eagle21]

This is very tacky and childish. Laughable at this stage in development for games and applications this generation (esp. on PS3 and 360). It looks rushed. ;)

[rev20]

@mart

I see what you mean and it would work in some games i just think that because the graphics are that much better on the 360 a simple avatar person would just look out of place in the majority of games.

[Zerodin]

Someone sure has butthurt that Home isn't out yet!

[geda]

they have fins :O

[NewSchoolGamer]

I knew somebody would make a comment like that and I'm not suprised you were the one that made it.

If you've seen the avatar customization for HOME you know that there is way more to do with your avatar not to mention the special costumes you can download.

[rev20]

Its a nice idea i just dont see the point of them on the 360.

Miis work because they are intergrated into games like mario kart and they fit in with the whole Wii image.

Apart from having a little figure of you next to ya gamercard what is the point?

[TheMART]

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Its a nice idea i just dont see the point of them on the 360.

Miis work because they are intergrated into games like mario kart and they fit in with the whole Wii image.

Apart from having a little figure of you next to ya gamercard what is the point? "

Because...

MS will let them use you in casual games like 1 to 100, where you can actually win prices. They'll also introduce it in other games, it might just get into some sort of Mario Kart game also.

They could even get it into games like Viva Piniata 2, you remember in Viva Piniata 1 you got that gardenfigure which stayed the same? Imagine instead of that standard non changable figure you'll be able to get your own made avatar in there.

MS could even introduce '360 Villa' with the avatars in it before Sony could release their Home. The avatars are inside the 360 dashboard, which is the layer that runs through every piece of software that is made to run on the 360 that activates the use of specific stuff like the avatars from the 360 dash

[GiantEnemyCrab]

These will do the same thing. There is a whole section on the dashboard for a "Game Show" network type of things where you can compete against other Live members and your Avatar will represent you.

As far as it fitting in with the Xbox image I think they don't and I have zero interest in them personally.

[NeonSkull]

I was tempted to get the 360 this year, gears 2 was nealy closing the deal but if these images are real ms just lost a new user. It looks crap.

[Bzone24]

lol. Yeah right. You sound like a little kid.

"I was going to do it until you did that." lol

[NeonSkull]

&Bzone24 seriously, I wanted a 360, but the new focus microsoft is taking has put me off. If it turns out they still have a mainly hardcore output i'll probly still get one, but if they start to do a nintendo and mainly aim for the wii type of consumer count me out.

as for "You sound like a little kid" imho only a little kid would type something like that to make them selve look older FAIL, what are you 16,17 grow up!

[Wakka_]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! They look like shoopuff's manure, ya? MS, ripping other competitors as always.

[Zerodin]

Sixaxis, Trophies, Home = Wiimote, Achievements, Second Life.

[Xlll]

Sony had worked on a Motion controller before Nintendo. Check your facts bot.

[Snukadaman]

I remember you was down to 2 bubbles...and your back with 6...nice.

[KBDuB]

"Sony had worked on a Motion controller before Nintendo. Check your facts bot." Okay, now what about the other two things that he stated?

[Viktor E]

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!

[DJ]

It actually looks very unintuitive and cluttered, completely the opposite of the new dashboard. Shouldn't character creation be easy?

[Viktor E]

What a joke for Millions of consumers

[ElementX]

I think these shots are fake. There are two images of what look like earring, facial hair, and hat options. Furthermore, the first row and a half of icons resembling people outlines don't make sense and it looks sloppy

[DJ]

Call this FAKE.

[InMyOpinion]

The layout screams amateur.

[mfwahwah]

Collage of images, look at the source again it was updated.

[AllroundGamer]

do you want a new pack of ears? - 100 MS points
you don't like your hat? - 200 MS points and we remove it
wanna stick a big sock in your pants to look more manly? - 1000 MS points + you will have to buy the Horse Armor!!!

;)

[DJ]

You have to pay Microsoft money to change your Gamertag? I thought they just charged for wallpaper and the 2D avatars.

[AllroundGamer]

don't forget they also invented the charging for online play on P2P basis :D

[GameOn]

Its true. I think it's 500 points if I remember rightly.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Where is the option to rename your id on the PS3? You have to create a whole new name and when you do that you lose all your current stat's.

With changing your gamertag on the 360, everything gets reassigned to the new account.

Can you imagine the kind of abuse the system would have if they allowed anyone to change their gamertag whenever they want and as many times as they want?

Stop trying to make this sound like some horrible dis-service when it isn't.

[AllroundGamer]

they could also limit the Gamertag change for example to 5x per Xboxs ID Adress (not the changeable Mac adress, but the one, that is fixed per xbox when getting banned), and if you would want another one you would have to call the support to add one extra...

[RAM MAGNUMS]

this gheyness just makes it too easy to humiliate xbots.
not only do they have outdated inferior hardware, now
they are all a bunch of trannies!

Xbox360 just came out of the closet like; Heeeeeeey! Snaps finger.
& starts sucking wii's wiimote!
Xbox gamers are getting phucked in the a$$ by thier own hardware!
& they dont like it but they pay extra for it? Microsoft owns those
toolboxes! LOL!

Ps3 wants your install base & m$ just gave it up!
LOL!

[Juevani]

I mean comn, thats even low for microsoft.. Home is lookin like even people who is 20 and above can use it, but this?? man it feels like 8 and under... sh1t that a new record for how low u can get to copy something.. the new dashboard is lookin nice they kinda give it a new look and sh1t, it looks slick even thought everybody could see its copy of PS3s XBM, i kind like it more than the huge ass ugly blades, but the Miis wannabies, COOOOOOOOMN ms..

[GiantEnemyCrab]

How can anyone see a relation to XMB which is basically a blatent rip-of of Windows Media Center interface?

I mean the XMB is a series of horizontal icons with lists that flow above and below it. This is nothing like that, not even close.

[Viktor E]

I estimate the Avatar System will be removed from the messy Xbox service after a Month of existence

[TheMART]

NASIM SHUT UP

[Bladestar]

I rather pay for the such...

I can already imagine what Home is going to be like:

* Add shirt - Download (20 minutes).... Please wait.... Install Shirt... wait....

* Add Pants - Download (20 minutes).... Please wait.... Install Pants... wait....

* Change color of pants - This features will come in 2 years (but sony will act as if they will release it next week).

Sony leg humpers re just pissed... microsoft is beating Sony at the own games.... more than a decade in the game industry... and sony is still trying to catchup to xbox live... Sony announces plans to bring Home... and before Sony release the damn thing.. microsoft release avatars.... Sony announces 1080P and before they can.. microsoft have it out... Sony still working on 1-1 private chat.. and microsoft will soon release private-Multiparty Chat (8 people)...
Sony is still working on bringing 1 movie to PSN... and microsoft is moving towards IPTV and services like Netflix...

hell even 16X10 over VGA or HDMI, and support for 1440x900 or 1680x1050....

Avatars are (optional) you find them childish... DON'T USE THEM... but people that do.. will have the benefit...
Now avatars are not some DUMB @$$ software where they only exist in it... HOME characters only exist within the limits of home... avatars are carried across games.. just like the many features of xbox live.. (i.e. voice chat)... unlike HOME which happens to be just another game... All microsoft has to do is pay 2nd life people to make the game on xbox 360.. and there it goes Home...

ohh.. and I can't wait for home... so we can get this over with... I'm tired of sony leg humpers talking about home which can turn out to be just like another sony Lair or Haze... a piece of CACA... it wouldn't be the first time that sony promises something and under deliver... which explains the constant delays...

[GiantEnemyCrab]

haha Bladestar I laughed on that one! "installing shirt..."

LOL and so true!

[djtek184]

What the hell is Microsoft thinking? Check out the luv handles.

[InMyOpinion]

Looks very fake.

[NiraTum]

mmmmm
IMO i don't like the art direction its.... so casual, like a cartooned look, mm mm maybe for the kids, but not exited about this

i´m not saying its bad, just i´m not exited about the art concept

[Kyur4ThePain]

That better be fake!

[power of Green]

Kind of looks fake I will have to look at the E3 video's again.

On Inside Xbox Trixie showcased a smidge of the editor and it looked different. These pics look like the person who made this, thought the gaphical art design of the interface should match the avatars art in such a way the quality of the options ended up so bad it defeats the purppose(The options art and the quality of them are worse than the Avatars).

Gamers shouldn't buy into what we've seen so far, the Avatar visuals are in their early form as stated.

[fafoon]

If your into 3 year old
Dress up Doll Books

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[Zerodin]

It reminds them that Home is the new Duke Nukem Forever.
Sure it's a rip-off of Miis, and will probably never be as well utilized, but it's still funny to watch droids crying "Baaaaaaw!" at it.

[Viktor E]

"This looks Great
If your into 3 year old
Dress up Doll Books

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA "

^LMAO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!! !!!!

[Zerodin]

And how is that new version of Home, eh?
It sure is making Live look bad...oh wait, it's not even out yet!

[eagle21]

Sorry, you fail. Home is miles ahead of this copycat Mii crap. :)

[power of Green]

As you can see the quality is far more polished.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Here is an whole page of most of the footage shown thus far.

http://www.youtube.com/resu...

*SUP3R* is a PS3 fanboy contributing troll, you must nev3r pay his posts any mind.

I'm telling you guys PS3 fanboys are POS losers, they can not be trusted they're fucin garbage.

[power of Green]

If the faker knew the option boxes where dynamic he could have gotten away with it, yet he had to mix and match some real images and faked the interface.

At first it seems like this person was trying to be fancy with his collection of random boxes but when he tried to make it seem like the interface was the real deal, with the set-up with the buttons as proof(second pic), that made this a little fishy.

Also he tries to make is seem like the inactive options or the phase the option go through when selected is the standard look of the options in general, before being selected in these faked photos hense why there are more inactive grey/white/green boxes than there is actual selectable content as if gamer know what that sh*t means .

[macalatus]

"they can not be trusted they're fucin garbage"

Speaking for yourself again, POG?

[Ali_The_Brit]

Garbage compared to the Home character creation. poor xbox, in last place as always

[GiantEnemyCrab]

LOL!! OH man how ironic!

PS3rd.

[juuken]

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That looks awfully unimaginative and bulky. That's all I have to say about that.

[Viktor E]

"Garbage compared to the Home character creation. poor xbox, in last place as always "

Brilliant comment,I have given you Positive User Feedback.

[elitewh0re]

wow... don't unbutton his trousers too quickly...

[juuken]

Lol, and the same 360 fanatical crybabies are defending this crap-PoG, Zerodin, Mart, and Bladestar.

Guys...if that's really what MS is offering you, then I'm very sorry. That looks like sh*t and it's very...what's the word?

Oh yeah, craptastical.

Oh, and open beta for Home is coming in the fall of *this* year. :)

[eagle21]

Thanks for the laugh.

I think Sesame Street might sue them. :)

[TheMART]

Damn I got confused a bit

Wasn't Home open beta announced for Fall 2007???

Or was it Fall 2017?

[Snukadaman]

They have a obese model but not a morbidly obese....ahh well ..your a ps3 owner...you can start a petition for it...

on topic..i think the droids are so angry with this because they know this will be implemented before home is even released...now compare the official announcement of home to the official announcement of this avatar system and you find sony tooted their horn long before home was even in beta....it is their biggest problem.

[juuken]

Blah, blah, blah.

Yada, yada, yada.

I'm not upset this will be implemented before Home at all because it's a shameless ripoff of Home and the Miis on the Nintendo Wii. :)

[Snukadaman]

I understand the ripoff of the mii's from nintendo...but how in the hell does this rip off from home...there's no environment to walk around in for the avatars. besides...who the hell wants to rip off something that as of now is a pipe dream...get off that sony c*ck and jump on a real one junkken.

[juuken]

And stop sucking Microsoft's tootsieroll Snuka.

This rips off of Home in a small way because Home had the accessory option.

Microsoft and their cheap ass knockoffs. That's why they'll never gain a foothold in the gaming industry.

[KBDuB]

And, what did Sony's Home copy? Oh, that's right nothin! -.- Whatever you say Juuken..

[MaximusPrime]

green green green.... yuck

[power of Green]

At the text and the tone of the text and the way this news submition was edited as fact.

[Calluk]

xbox avatars watta joke LOL makes me more proud to be a PS3 owner

[JOLLY1]

There are this many comments over 2 pictures? Wow, both sides are really stretching their imaginations a lot for these comments!

[Z501]

Wiiiiiiiiiiiii!

[Z501]

Home is still free and optional.

[KBDuB]

True.. but no one is forcing you to "use" the avatars.

[outlawlife]

i saw the character creation/customization on a vido on xbox live during e3...it looked nothign like this and i'm lead to believe this is fake until otherwise proven

looks too cluttered compared to the videos i've seen

[gumgum99]

Agent Smith: me, me, me

Smith clone: me too

yep pretty much

[gumgum99]

If my gut feeling is right about this, this avatar creator thing could work very similar to the one used on Wii.

-sigh- Wow Microsoft. you deserve a medal

no, seriously, you do