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Is Rise of the Tomb Raider the Return to Classic Tomb Raiding We're Hoping For? | XBA

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Rise of the Tomb Raider's initial showing at Gamescom felt like a shift even further towards Lara's evolution into remorseless killing machine, with Ms. Croft stalking her way through leafy undergrowth under the cover of darkness, systematically slitting throats and shooting faces with impunity. It's a far cry from the Tomb Raiders of old, in which the majority of killing Lara did was of the animal variety.

Our hands-on with Rise of the Tomb Raider was the antithesis of the violent stealth section we saw during Microsoft's Xbox presser, taking Lara back to exotic locales and awe-inspiring sights. Taking place at the northwest border of Syria, we picked up with Lara on the search for answers after finding fresh clues in her father's research, leading to the Tomb of the Immortal. Beating a path to her destination via a precarious cliff ledge, Lara is still adept at shimmying along rocky outcrops, and crawling into dark, claustrophobic spaces.

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jay23157d ago

if laras not a whinny toddler again then yeah

Foehammer3157d ago

They've taken the game back to it's roots:

exploration
stealth
FUN

Looking forward to playing it this holiday

antz11043156d ago

There was nothing wrong with the reboot, it was an amazing game. They changed the formula because it was stale in the first place.

gamer78043156d ago

They changed it to sell more to the mainstream. I honestly preferred the legend and underworld version. Test of Lara against her environment and exploration. With a bit of combat in between.

badz1493156d ago

Am I the only one who love yhe old TR games over the reboot? I love the old TR so much, I even enjoy Trmple of Osiris more than the reboot.

The reboot is a survival game with tacked in tomb exploration. Others might like it but personally not my cup of tea.

OC_MurphysLaw3156d ago

No there are a few of you...but you definitely are in the minority.

Lon3wolf3155d ago

No you are not, I prefer the older games with exploration of tombs and environmental hazards which seemed lacking from this release.

@Dlacy13g:

How do you know badz149 is definitely in the minority?

Foehammer3155d ago

Lon3wolf

Sounds like you will love the new game then.

rainslacker3155d ago (Edited 3155d ago )

I liked them both kind of equally. The original series was a different formula. I looked at the reboot as a different series, and took it for it's own thing. I like the originals for the fun game play, and I like the newer ones for the more over the top set pieces and faster pace.

Only thing I didn't care for in the reboots was how annoying Lara was as opposed to her more sophisticated, easy to like character in the originals. It's hard to completely ignore the originals in every aspect, and some comparisons were made by me, and that's the one that stood out the most.

I suppose they tried to make her more human, but to me, the self-confident adventurer is what I always like about Lara.

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-Foxtrot3157d ago

God no.

Nothing found in any of the gameplay videos shown to us shows classic Tomb Raider. It seems like it's moved even more in the totally different path the first game of the reboot set out on.

gangsta_red3157d ago

What from the classic Tomb Raider where you looking for in this new one?

And how far back of classic are you even referring too?

-Foxtrot3156d ago

A lot of platforming, a shit load of booby traps and hazards she needs to overcome, twisted puzzles, the isolated feeling of being trapped with a dangerous enviroment because you have to watch your every step, moments where you feel like if you don't time something correctly your dead, med packs found on fallen adventures along with whatever supplies they were carying, croft manor to explore with its own secrets and goodies to find. Actual acrobats like back flips and somersaults, less humans more wildlife or supernatural creatures

And so on and on

user99502793156d ago

I think, in the case of Tomb Raider, there are a lot of people spending a lot of time glorifying outmoded games that they never particularly liked in the first place.

I used to play TR games when I was really young. ROTR needs more jaggies. I want Laura's ass to be an octagon.

Rookie_Monster3157d ago

Fox,

Why is it always you complaining about xbox exclusives? Yesterday, you complaint about the Halo 5 trailer and how you don't like squad and how Halo is not Halo, now Tomb Raider is not going back far enough and how Tomb Raider is not Tomb Raider of old. Jeezzz man. :/

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Fro_xoxo3156d ago (Edited 3156d ago )

It's better you ignore him. It's the same regurgitated crap about how a game should be, over and over again. I wouldn't pay it any attention.

freshslicepizza3156d ago

did he ever think to play the old tomb raider games if that is what he wants? this is a reboot and with reboots come a different direction. he is way too attached in nostalgia. even the new mad max movie he didn't like because it wasn't like the old mad max.

there are new generations of fans which is why we see so many reboots and with new generations they don't always share the same opinions of those who are likely in their 30's and 40's now.

Becuzisaid3156d ago

He complains all the time about FFXV too

jb2273155d ago

Fox is an equal opportunity "complainer"...he has issues w/ games on any platform. I haven't seen him criticize XBO games anymore than PS4 or WiiU games. He's entitled to his opinions because its obviously not coming from a fanboy place but simply a fan place. He obviously has experiences w/ all of these franchises and he seems like he's been a multi-platform player for at least a few generations now.

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freshslicepizza3156d ago

did you even read the article or are you saying you know more than crystal dynamics?

"It seems that Crystal Dynamics is treading a fine line with Rise of the Tomb Raider, looking to appease long-time fans of the series for whom the reboot didn't quite click, while building upon the elements that made the previous game such a huge success. “We want to return to the nostalgia of old Tomb Raider,” CD later told us, adding that its puzzle-filled tombs will retain the modern twist from the previous TR."

jb2273155d ago

I think its safe for anyone to be cautiously optimistic about what CD is saying in regards to the game. They also said prerelease of the TR reboot that there would be plenty of tombs focused on and that didn't exactly pan out. Hopefully all of their promises come to fruition, but we shouldn't just take them on their word, the game needs to speak for itself. The PAX demo was very cool, easily the best preview they've shown yet, but we don't know if that's indicative of the full game. If anything going by the previews released so far it'd be easier to say that it looks a lot like the last title in almost every aspect, same platforming, same combat w/ an added focus on TLOU style stealth, and the same light puzzle solving elements in tombs. In fact, there was no real puzzling to be had in the PAX demo, it consisted of shooting glowing parts of traps, reading some hieroglyphs & pulling a stone to let water rush out. Still haven't really shown much in the way of puzzles yet, I'm anxious to see more of that and more in the way of environmental variety when I play the full game.

gangsta_red3156d ago

The previews I recently saw showed just as much exploring, platforming action sequences with added action to take advantage of the new consoles.

I think you have a case of rose tinted nostalgia glasses. Laura and gaming has come a long way from the simplicity of what we all played way back in the day.

Gamers expect more in their gameplay and with these new systems rightly so. If the game was as bare and old school as you would like it to be could you imagine the uproar and also meltdown the internet would have because of it.

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Fro_xoxo3156d ago

The game has benefited from it's evolution that is Tomb Raider 2013 which served as a foundation for Rise of the Tomb Raider.

I'm confident the overall package of Rise of the Tomb Raider will have enough to satisfy the fans of Tomb Raider 2013 and possibly new fans.

It's me and Lara this fall..

XO.

1383156d ago

Might be in the minority here, but I think the old games were garbage compared to the reboot. I played the originals on PC and PS1 back in the day and the jank-ass controls made platforming a real pain. The worst thing they can do is return to classic Tomb Raider. Onward and upward.

badz1493156d ago

The old PS1 and PC games were clunky for todays standard but it was great back then. However, last gen versions of TR such as Anniversary, Legends and Underworld were great improvements for the franchise and were great TR games. It's just that the reception towards them were lukewarm but not because they were bad but more about people moving over to other popular franchises.

rainslacker3155d ago

I would agree on the first one, and maybe somewhat on the 2nd, but over time they refined it well enough that it was pretty solid and fun game play. I never liked the gun play in the first two, but the platforming was decent enough, particularly compared to other games at the time which did similar things. I think that's one reason it became so popular, because it did 3D platforming better than the rest.

Over time, this obviously changed as other companies started doing it better.

I can 100% agree that going back to play the first couple of games can be very jarring if you aren't used to games from back then.

chrisx3156d ago (Edited 3156d ago )

the ROTR looks really good, the presentation is top notch. i think the classic tomb raider is gone,not a bad thing as the new direction is really cool

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It’ll Be Fine, Right? Five Games With Unfortunate Release Strategies

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jznrpg353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

Zero Dawn sold really well so I’m not sure this belongs. The second game released next to a big game again and it hurt it some I forget what it was though, oh yeah Elden Ring .
But a good game is a good game to me I don’t care when they release personally but they do have to think about it when you want to get more people to buy it.

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The Tomb Raider Survivor Trilogy's Take on Lara Croft Deserved More Recognition

The Survivor Trilogy was a drastic reimagining of Lara Croft and Tomb Raider, and it provokes changes for the character that are truly fantastic.

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isarai466d ago (Edited 466d ago )

Deserves less IMO, i think the 1st in the new trilogy was a perfect 1st step for the new direction. The next 2 games were half steps at best. Not only that, every character in the series including Lara is just annoying and doesn't make sense in terms of motive, like yes they have a motive, but none of it seems proportional to the lengths they are willing to go through for it. The most annoying thing is every one of the games say "become the Tomb Raider" yet 3 games later and we're still not there? No thanks. Then there's the mess of the 3rd game, massive skill tree that serves almost no purpose as there's literally only like 3-4 short encounters in the whole game, and they took till the 3rd game to finally manage some decent puzzles even remotely close to previous games in the series. Nah, the trilogy infuriated me to no end as a long time fan of the series, i hope we get better going forward cause that crap sucked.

Army_of_Darkness464d ago

The first in the trilogy was my favorite. I thought they were going into the right direction with that one until the second one came out and seemed like a graphical downgrade but the gameplay was okay. As for the Third, Graphics were really nice but it was kinda boring me to death with its non-stop platforming and exploring with not enough action! Well, for me anyway...

DeathTouch464d ago

Graphics on the 3rd one were abysmal. It’s more colorful and has more variety, but everything else was a noticeable downgrade.

The more open world with NPC quests was also handled very poorly, to the point I missed Angel of Darkness.

thesoftware730464d ago

I know it is your opinion, but she did progress as a character in each game, she even got more muscular and seasoned.

That is the thing, people first complained that there was not enough platforming and actual tomb raiding in the first and second games. Shadow remedied that and kept the combat elements.

3-4 encounters? huh? did we play the same game? there was plenty of combat and, the skill tree did matter, like being able to hang enemies from trees, set explosives traps on bodies, being able to counter, and that are just a few of the combat skills. The skill tree also had things like being able to hold your breath underwater longer, crafting upgrades, zipline upgrade, and climbing upgrades that all changed how you can approach situations.

Not knocking your opinion, but we definitely had different experiences. I had 98% completion on the shadow.

SoulWarrior464d ago (Edited 464d ago )

Sorry but i'm with him about the low number of encounters, the game throws loads of weapons and skills you're way with a comparatively low amount of places to actually use them, so they felt under utilised.

-Foxtrot466d ago

Yeah...no

It was awful, for THREE GAMES it was "become the Tomb Raider" where she went back to square one after each game. Not to mention after a huge reaction of killing someone for the first time she then becomes Rambo straight after and goes on a slaughter spree without a single other reaction. Her development was all over the place.

She was whiney, weak and in later game a little arrogant and selfish

Oh and the voice actress compared to the previous ones was not as good

Lara Croft deserved better and while they are decent games as they are, we deserved actual Tomb Raider games, we could have had better survival games if they just stuck with the original Lara Crofts origin about her plane going down. Surviving 2 weeks in the Himalayas...I'd have liked to seen that, who knows what mystical threat she could have faced in the mountains or underground some secret concealed cave.

Tacoboto464d ago

I thought Shadow of the Tomb Raider had better gameplay than Rise, but it annoyed me the most of the trilogy when I stopped to think about the story.

It's like they deliberately decided to make her unlikeable and did nothing to make the character you're playing as likeable or have even one sign of humility.

SoulWarrior466d ago

2013 I thought was a fine entry, but Rise and especially Shadow were painfully mediocre follow ups imo, I really didn't like how selfish and angry her character was in those two.

Terry_B464d ago

No. Please forget the crap completely.

northpaws464d ago

First one was decent, played through it twice.
Second one was okay, played through it once.
Third one was really bad, tried twice a year apart, still can't get through the first two hours, it is just really bad.

thesoftware730464d ago

Honest question, what did you find bad about it? the opening 2 hrs of Shadow were fantastic imo.

The opening was very similar to the first 2, what did you find really bad?

Not looking for an argument, just an honest question.

Starman69464d ago

3rd one just didn't feel like a tomb raider game. Possibly because the development was passed to another development team. Big mistake! Microsoft killed tomb raider making the first game a timed exclusive. Never recovered after that.

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Starting today, Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and Rise of the Tomb Raider are free at Epic Games Store. The free game offers run until January 6 at 11 AM Eastern. Once you claim them, they’re yours to keep.

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CrimsonWing69845d ago (Edited 845d ago )

They're all solid games, but nothing quite matched the epicness of the first one for me. I think the 3rd one started off strong but once you got to that Peruvian area it took a massive nose dive for me.

lelo2play845d ago (Edited 845d ago )

You got to be kidding!
The first one was great at the time... but this latest trilogy of Tomb Raider games are also great.

LiViNgLeGaCY845d ago

I think he means the first one in the new trilogy.

CrimsonWing69845d ago

I meant the first of the new trilogy.

Furesis845d ago

yeah i remember liking the first one when it came out, so i tried the second one sometime after release and i just could not get into it, i couldn't finish it. So i might try the 3rd now that i got it for free but ehh. But i do remember enjoying the first one, i wonder if i'd feel the same way if i played it today? Better not taint those memories lol

ANIALATOR136844d ago

I was the same for some reason. Never finished the second one. I got like half way through maybe.

ActualWhiteMan844d ago (Edited 844d ago )

The first one of the latest trilogy is a masterpiece

Fishy Fingers845d ago

I'll take a copy of Shadow... Cheers.

Profchaos845d ago

Great games I've played them all on ps4 but it'll be good to finally try shadow on my rtx card.

Double_O_Revan845d ago

Trying to claim them and the store keeps crashing. lol.

gamefreaks365845d ago

EGS has been having issues all day.

RedDevils845d ago

Weird I don't has that issue.

Double_O_Revan845d ago

I finally got it after a while. But it was real bad for a while.

PeeShuter845d ago (Edited 845d ago )

Claim games by going to the website and login using ur credentials. I did the same as i couldnt use epic launcher. Also try reinstalling Epic Launcher I did it and it worked.

Double_O_Revan844d ago

I always go through the website. It was all just down for a while yesterday it seems.

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