Dismantling the myth of 900p on Xbox One: 70% of the games run at 1080p

The data presented, is referenced numerous sources and statements, a sample of 98 games that showed up between 2013 and 2015, although it is impossible to cover the entire island catalog with the means at our disposal.
Having been terribly benevolent excluding the vast majority of independent games that we knew very well that reach a standard 60/30 fps in 1080p resolution. The first conclusion is a simple percentage: 75.3% of the games running above 900p.

We can see over time an increase in the percentage of games that deliver higher resolution than 900p; either by native 1080p or opting for dynamic resolutions.
This also confirms what many already know what happens during a generation: time passes and developers learn more about the islands, and consequently can do bigger and better things.

This also confirms what many were saying, as time goes developers know more and better the machine and are easing the obstacles with which they were at first.

[ape007]

900p looks very good too, I have Watch Dogs on PS4 (runs at 900p) and it looks almost like 1080p. Don't get me wrong, I'll still get the better version (PS4) but It's not that big of a deal to be honest.

[Skate-AK]

Got the platinum for Watch Dogs and didn't even know it wasn't 1080p. Even just googled it to double check.

[Ace Killa 08]

the game didn't even have 60 fps... it was a crappy design from the beginning so it's kinda a big deal

[-Foxtrot]

I don't get why anyone would be happy with 70%. You are paying a lot of money for a console so you'd expect it to run 1080 as a standard...especially when the other console can run more games at 1080.

Why defend it, you've spent your hard earned money on something and at the time it was more expensive than the other console on the market so did people really want to pay more for less.

[TheGreatGamer]

"you'd expect it to run 1080 as a standard" PS4 doesn't either you know? 1080p aren't standard on either console and while I agree it's a shame, you can't pretend that PS4 has 1080p standard as it's a lie.

[-Foxtrot]

Yeah but my point is the PS4 has more titles that can.

[Professor_K]

No your point lies dead

you are making it sounds like xbox gamers bought their console to count pixels. smh tbh

[gamertk421]

So what's your number then? 70% is a no, but 80% is fine? You almost seek to require an absolute, but in retrospect, you backpedaling by saying it's OK on PS4, because they have more. So what is the acceptable number, since PS4 is not at 100% either?

[christocolus]

@gamertk421

Well said.

[freshslicepizza]

the xbox one is also cheaper. microsoft on their store is selling a 1tb xbox one with forza 6 special edition for $400. how much is a special edition ps4 that's 1tb with a $60 game? or you can buy a xbox one with a game for $350. the cheapest ps4 is $400 at retail.

that needs to be taken into consideration too. the wii u is priced less and guess what, it's less powerful and it doesn't even get games like project cars because the system it much weaker than the xbox one.

[someOnecalled]

This is how PS fanboys work. Flawed logic. Even when they compare how powerful ps4 is to xbone but when you really look act it its not really that much. These console have been out match 3-4 yrs before released.

[gamer9]

@Foxtrot
1080p standard? Who asked for this? This is the last thing on my list. How about larger games with new experiences and fun gameplay, that would be fantastic. Put it in 900p or 4k resolution, fun is fun.

[Sonyslave3]

Sony was the one saying give me 1080p and 60fps or death and yet Ps4 don't have more 1080p and 60fps then xbox one and wii u

[Skate-AK]

Was that Sony? I thought that was Adam Sessler.

[Bathyj]

Link please, less I go home for my broom and call shenanigans.

[SonofGod]

@Above

Here you go:

https://twitter.com/shahidk...

"Give me 60fps or give me death."

- Shahid Kamal Ahmad (Strategic Content at PlayStation)

He didn't say 1080p though.

[Spotie]

@Son: So you actually didn't prove Sonyslave right at all.

[vikingland1]

@Foxtroll

It say's 75.3%

[gangsta_red]

Less of what?

It's also funny how almost everyone can't tell the differences between the two unless side by side comparisons are done and articles specifically point out what to look for.

And even then the differences are minor.

It would be different if the PS4 was so powerful that their games had features, designs and gameplay that made playing on their system so drastically different. But that is not the case at all.

[SpaceRanger]

You're paying the same/more for less of what should be the same as others.

"It's also funny how almost everyone can't tell the differences between the two unless side by side comparisons are done and articles specifically point out what to look for."

No, what's funny is that you and others defend this practice. It's the equivalent of two people ordering a steak for the same price, one gets a prime cut and the other get a choice cut.
Not everyone can tell the difference unless someone came and told you. But does it make it right to pay the same price for a less quality steak? Even if the quality differs by a little?

I mean seriously…who buys a 1080p TV to play 900p games on it?

[gangsta_red]

"You're paying the same/more for less of what should be the same as others."

So should this be applied for PC gamers who have the power to up their resolution and also framerate? Should they pay more because they can do more?

It's the equivalent of both having a prim rib dinner, one steak is cooked well while the other is medium rare. But both plates have the same cut, same vegetables, loaded bake potato and a slaw. Both are still delicious.

I wonder if you were this adamant when the GC, Xbox and Dreamcast had better looking and performing games than the PS2?

"I mean seriously…who buys a 1080p TV to play 900p games on it?"

But then again their are a lot of channels that still don't even output to 1080p/HD. And if the differences and quality are little then why does it matter, does the game look any less gorgeous in 900p?

What's funny is you and others still trying to debate this even after admitting that not everyone can tell the differences.

[Revolver_X_]

"It's also funny how almost everyone can't tell the differences between the two unless side by side comparisons are done and articles specifically point out what to look for."

You know, I get tired of this comment. The X1 and PS4 upscale every game that doesn't reach 1080p. Not to mention your T.V. does this as well. Of course you can't tell the difference when every 900p game on X1 is being stretched to 1080p. Lets see the X1 not upscale your 900p games, then come back here and tell people that lie.

[user9950279]

lol. No, you wouldn't.

But you're right about one thing. No point in defending it. Never has been. Most of us console game by choice, and are more than well aware that the grass is greener (and probably thicker and less pixelated) on the PC side of the fence.

Do you honestly expect everyone to complain about something that hardly anyone cared about to begin with? Get real. We are playing games. It's pretty simple.

You might want to consider that you will never be able to turn any significant number of gamers away from Xbox by shouting numbers at them. Not for lack of trying, I'm sure.

[donthate]

foxtrot:

Except when most of the 1080p games on your console of choice (that is PS4 for those that don't know foxtrot) runs worse than the one at 900p on Xbox One.

Take MGS5 where PS4 sports 1080p and drops from 60fps to 30fps in scenes, whereas Xbox One sports 900p, but drops only to 48 fps.

Who do you think is getting the poorer experience?

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

In the meanwhile, I'm looking forward to all these exclusives this year and next, plus Crackdown 3 that puts even PC to shame!

:D

[JamesBroski]

You should actually zoom on those pictures. The graphical difference is significant. I prefer my game to look better than having a few fps drops in cinematic that don't affect the gameplay.

"we should stress that these moments are fleeting and very rare indeed."

Even on a PC, with the same drops PS4 is experiencing, I would choose 1080p over 900p any day.

[Subaruwrx]

@donthate Eurogamer's hands on with the PS4 and X1 versions of MGSV was with the pre-released version of the game. The X1 version has already been patched. I'd wait for the PS4 versions patch before passing judgement. After all, the game hasn't been released yet. "Currently, Xbox One has a 1.01 patch available, while PlayStation 4 does not." Hard to imagine that the PS4 version won't be patched to improve performance either at launch or soon after launch.

[gangsta_red]

@James
"You should actually zoom on those pictures."

Lmao...so now we have to zoom in on pics to tell the difference? The hilarity of this.

I wonder how many gamers zoom in while playing?

[Dario_DC]

"Except when most of the 1080p games on your console of choice (that is PS4 for those that don't know foxtrot) runs worse than the one at 900p on Xbox One."

Bull$hit!

You're talking about a game (MGS5) without the day one patch but I can give you tons of games that run way better on PS4 in 2015, not even looking at 2013/2014:

Project Cars, F1 2015, MKX, Arkham Knight, ESO, Dark Souls 2, Borderlands HC, BF Hardline, Evolve, Dying Light etc etc etc... Those are just a few... I could stay here all day showing how wrong you are.

Not to mention that the article calls anything runing over 900p full 1080p! What a joke! 1920x1080 IS FULL 1080p not dynamic or some 1330x1080 weird @ss resolution...
Over 95% of all PS4 games run at FULL 1080p fact!
All the PS4 exclusives run at 1080p that's also a fact! The Xbox one can't even run exclusives at 1080p...
The sooner people let this resolution thing behind the better... I prefer having full 1080p because I hate aliasing and I like my image crisp, but I've played BF4 and Watch Dogs at 900p and it's not the end of the world.... Enjoy what you like and please stop the bull$hit... There's no reason to lie in the interwebs.

[Terminatom]

@gangsta_red

No we don't. It's just that Xbox fanboys like you are so blind that you guys actually need to do this. The difference is really noticeable when you click on the pictures.

[Yetter]

Yeah who buys a console to play games anymore? I just launch a game, pause it and count pixels. Its really rewarding

[alb1899]

I don't understand why anyone would be happy without backward compatibility or without an upcoming game with open world 100% destructible......why?

[xxjabberxx]

I play red faction on my PS3 and its100% destructible. Google it its GEO-MOD 2.0

[GribbleGrunger]

Are you saying you were unhappy with the XB1 for nearly two years? And on one count you're STILL unhappy with the XB1. That's quite the confession, but well done on being honest.

[Nekroo91]

I dont understand why anyone would care about backwards compatibility 2 years after launch. Its usefull when consoles launches but now there's more than enough games on the X1.

Making a scene for playing old games

[alb1899]

Gribblegrunger you don't know sarcasm?

-foxtrot said he doesn't understand why would somebody want a console that plays 70% of games with 1080p and I respond to him with sarcasm......just that.
In my opinion I buy things thinking in the future too, so knowing that my console is getting better and better isn't bad at all ether.

[freshslicepizza]

did it ever occur to you the other console that also doesn't do 1080p in all of its games cost more? (usa prices)

for $350 you can get a xbox one with gears of war remastered.

for $400 you can get a 1tb xbox one with forza 6 or madden 16 for $400

by comparison the ps4 with the last of us remastered is $400 or with batman

[u4one]

it doesn't really bother me because it doesn't make much of a difference or at most enough of a difference from a visual fidelity standpoint to me. i also find that the xbox one just has more games that I personally am into right now. i can't say they are better, but they are better for me and my taste. for example - love racing games, but i do not love drive club. I think its ok, i don't hate it but aside from the graphics, the racing itself is just ok to me. on the xbox i have forza motorsport (which i've loved for a really long time) and forza horizon which isn't as realistic but still exponentially more fun than drive club in my own personal taste. its like a more realistic burnout paradise, full of discovery. in contrast, i don't really love japanese game or niche indie games most of the time and the ps4 usually wins this category... just not for me.

i have both consoles but i definitely use the xbox one more. partially because it controls my tv, cable etc which also makes it easier to just launch apps like netflix and amazon prime etc from too since i can just quickly go back to the dash and i don't need to change the tv input to get to another device. the xbox also works with my logitech harmony universal remote so i don't ever have to get a controller either. if i'm really lazy i can just tell it what to watch and it does it. couple that with external hard drive support, DLNA support, superior multitasking etc as well as pretty much most of the same games, it makes me care even less if some games are 900p.

at the end of the day its a 320x180 resolution difference in some cases, and the pluses and benefits of the rest of the system far outweigh such a tiny difference in resolution for me to simply write the xbox off. i think as a system its pretty cool and dare i say futuristic at times.

just simply my opinions and thoughts. please be respectful! i am doing so as well.

[green]

I did not buy my Xbox One to count pixels but to continue to play great games that i love like Forza and Halo.

[Fusion_Ninja]

THIS! Agreed 100%, Foxtrot. At launch, the Xbox One was $100 more than the PS4, with inferior performance on nearly all multiplat titles. It's a pretty cut-and-dry situation, IMO. Unless you're the most die-hard Halo and/or Forza fan in the world, getting an Xbone just seems senseless...who wouldn't want to play the superior versions of titles?!

[AngelicIceDiamond]

"I don't get why anyone would be happy with 70%."

Lol why would anybody be sad? Well Just Cause 3 bombed the metacritic with a 20 but least it achieved 1080p to make up for it.

Yeah that's not quite how that works, not quite.

Bad games are still bad games and good games are still good games regardless of pixels. Your money should be determined by the quality of the game not the pixel. In fact FPS is way better argument because that could either make or break the game.

"Why defend it"

Being more expensive had everything to do with Kinect and not the core console at all, that's why its 350$ with out that paper weight. And you know since I and many, upon many others can't tell the different between 900 and 1080 the argument is dead in the water especially if you need DF to spot the difference for us. Other than that, ppl see one number being bigger than the other and pretend they see a HUGE game changing difference.

[RzaDaRazor]

Kinect is not a paperweight. In fact, it's amazing. It is what differentiates the bone from the ps4. I will never have another entertainment center without kinect or a kinect-like device.

[Josuey]

If kinect is so good how come microsoft dont care about it?

[deadpoolio316]

Really its amazing LMAO, is that why just to sell consoles they had to remove Kinect, offer like 5 free games with it and permanently drop the price to $350.....

FYI those same voice commands which is the only thing anyone can ever come up with that makes the Kinect so amazing are also possible on PS4 with a camera that costs half as much and works twice as good

[Death]

The camera is used for auto sign in when it sees you. The built in mic is the input for the OS that uses your voice for commands. While the PS4 does recognize some words, it is limited by the fact it isn't using an OS as robust as Xbox One. Keep in mind Xbox One is using 3 operating systems. This is why it is more capable in some areas.

[Sonyslave3]

^__^ Ryse is till the best looking game of this gen until Quantum Break comes out.

[Letthewookiewin]

Not even close to the best looking game.

[PrinceOfAnger]

http://n4g.com/news/1752459...

[Josuey]

I think driveclub and the order 1886 have that title

[StrayaKNT]

Sorry forza horizon 2 and gears snatched those titles without even trying. Do a dc and Fh2 side by side comparison and you'll see how Fh2 blows it out of the water.

[muzikjunkie80]

drive club looks good but gets boring quick, limited to no customisation, no real damage physics. cars get damaged but does not affect handling or performance etc, the order again looks good but same repetitive game play ryse suffers from. yes i have played both and even though there both good games there nothing special.

[Imortus_san]

DriveClub without the sun and rain looks really good:

http://i.imgur.com/RPMRaFJ....

The Order with less 37% screen with black bars, lol, hell, why not make a game that only fills up 50% of the TV and call it something like inovation, that's sure to look next gen.

[Ra3v3r]

Ryse looks stunning but I'm probably giving it to Until Dawn at the moment. As for the comment below (above??) about The Order - yes it looks stunning, but that letterbox...

[Letthewookiewin]

What about it? Galahad's mustache has more detail than anything on X1.

[Ra3v3r]

@letthewookiewin where specifically did I say or imply that Ryse was better looking than The Order? Like I said, Ryse is a good looking game or is that not allowed because it's on X1 and MS are the devil?

If I'm getting disagrees for my Until Dawn comment, cool, but if it's the Sony brigade doing the rounds get a grip. There's nothing wrong with liking something on another platform.

Shhhh, don't tell anyone but I think Irn Bru is a superior soft drink to Coca Cola.

[muzikjunkie80]

i agree ryse is a very pretty game and for a launch title its pretty impressive, the facial animations are pretty lifelike only thing that lets the game down is the linear game play and gets repetitive quick but still a good game if you can get it cheap enough for some extra achievements, and to above comment bringing up project cars being better on ps4 than xbox one. i can say it runs fine on xbox and have had alot of fun with it so far i couldnt care if it only displays at 900p or whatever, i play games based on gameplay and not just how pretty they look. the xbox one is no slouch in performance and games like quantum break and scalebound have shown that or are people blind? but i guess this being n4g there will be people who will try to discredit anything xbox. cant please everybody i suppose.

[The_Devil_Hunter]

"Thus being n4g.com there will be people who will try to discredit anything xbox"
Normally I would agree, but to be honest, as of late I think it's the Xbox fans attacking anything sony related lately.

[muzikjunkie80]

StrayaKNT

lets be realistic i love forza horizon 2 its a good game and plays excellently but its not as pretty as drive club saying that forza horizon 2 does things drive club does not, damage visual and physical ie steering breaks, engine fails etc, FH2 is an open world game and feels alot like TDU but with better handling cars and fully customisable cars (visually and perfomance). both games are good at what they do and this sht just gotta stop.

[Sunny_D]

@muzikjunkie okay that's your opinion of the gameplay which not everyone agrees with. His initial comments itself is about the graphics.

[Sonyslave3]

And like the article said how can demanded games like destiny and mad max and other run in 1080 and 30fps yet a soccer game from Konami can't but Fifa been 1080p and 60fps from day one of xbox one release.

[Satyre28]

After seeing some of the visuals the X1 has been able to push out i still find it hard to believe people see it as a "weak" console. Especially since a game as holy damn beautiful as Quantum Break is running on it.

[raggy-rocket]

Well this article should lead to some civil and well-reasoned discussion....

[Mystogan]

Lol xD

[ABizzel1]

It's sad honestly

[Lennoxb63]

The Xbox One is currently making the naysayers look stupid though. The weaker console winning two SIGGRAPH awards since its launch, and a TIGA award for best visuals and sound. Yet it's so weak right?

[Mystogan]

This^

[Satyre28]

Have to agree, nothing looks as good as Quantum Break. That game is just on another level visually.

[FITgamer]

Quantum Break didn't win that Siggraph award, sorry.
https://www.unrealengine.co...

[StrangerX]

Well truthfully QB cannot be nominated yet because its a ongoing project, not finished yet. Once done then its decided if it will be nominated or not.

[Josuey]

So this site is called "SoloXboxOne" spanish for "Onlyxboxone" just saying.

He also counts all games including indies and remasters... i mean is this real? How about only counting curent gen games only and see how that turns out.

[Mystogan]

PS4 fanboys count indies and remasters all the time when it's convenient for them.

[Josuey]

Nobody is talking about comparing game library lists here, we are talking about percentage of 1080p games on the xbox one, and counting indies and remasters is not fair.

[Tedakin]

Sony fans throw out Last of Us Remastered all the time.

[thecowsaysmoo]

Just make sure my FPS is stable please. I don't want my games to be fucking lagging like the Witcher 3 on the PS4.

[SaladSnake]

Are we still talking about this crap? What next... Ps5 and xbox2 can't do full 4k?

Most TV stations don't even do full HD as standard yet.

Keep counting sheep you fake shepherds lol.

Just play and enjoy.

[Tedakin]

People still say every game is 720p some times.

[Bathyj]

I dont really care as long as one version isnt held back for the other (which hasnt been happening as much as we feared at the start of the gen) and its at least 900p as well as a solid framerate. 720P is no longer good enough. 900p@30fps is the absolute lowest a game should be this gen.

[CKPan]

As long as you take out things here and there, 1080P should be no problem to Xbone.

[Riddler89]

Yeah keep telling yourself that

[DrumBeat]

I respect Digital Foundry's analyses, though conversely, they turn gamers into silly nitpickers.

When you start pointing out two-frame differentials and acting as though it's a big deal, you're doing it wrong.

Before you knew what DF was, you probably didn't even know what frame rates were. You didn't care. You just played video games and enjoyed them. Now you're a jackass trying one-up gamers of a different console by highlighting negligible frame drops.

[Subaruwrx]

In the era of patched games, Digital Foundry's analysis on a game that has not been released is, imo, pretty much irrelevant.

[gameon1985]

Sony fans Can argue all they about the 70% 1080p games all they want, but the one thing they can't argue about is that it is fact that the Xbox is the only console with a 1080p 60fps 1st party exclusive.

[Dario_DC]

There's Resogun... MKX does that... Diablo 3 too... PES... Metro Redux.. MGS Ground Zeroes... Wolfenstein... Warframe... I can name more if you want? There are lots of 1080p 60fps games on the PS4.

[joeorc]

I was just going to say resogun.., and those that think those were just exploding particles, well those exploding particles are realy 3D solid cubes! With multilayered Physics's! On each cube!
@ 1080p/ 60 fps

So yea the Xbox one is not the only console with 1080p/60 on a 1st party exclusive's.

[gameon1985]

do you not understand what 1st party means?

[aerisbueller]

Really reaching there, huh?

Lemme try: PS4 has the only 1080p console exclusive featuring a cephalopod main character.

See how silly it is to try to come up with an arbitrary set of constraints, when we're talking about the power of a specific console?

I plan to buy both consoles, btw, but I will do so fully aware that the PS4 will be the more powerful of the two.

[massapeal79]

This Why I Got A High End PC So I Don't Have Go through this but I have say ps4 is more powerful system but the xbox one does have potential....

[alabtrosMyster]

I think the story makes the counter point of what it's trying to make... I mean, compare this to the PS4 where I don't know like 95% of the games are 1080p (with a good chunk at 60fps).

[Pixelart]

Good chunk at 60fps my a$$

[Scatpants]

Also 70% of the games are Xbox Live Arcade downloadable games.

[FallenAngel1984]

Xbox Live Arcade no longer exists as a service

[Ace Killa 08]

2 steps forward 3 steps backwards

[Tedakin]

I love how Sony fans take offense to this article, like it's a shot at Sony. Yeah more games are 1080p on PS4. Great. That's irrelevant to what this story is about and is not detracting from anything other than fanboyism.

[Spectre_StatusN7]

I'm seeing a lot of comments saying Xbox One runs most games at a better frame-rate. Can someone tell me where these games are and list them for me? because other than Witcher 3 I can't think of another one.

[Dario_DC]

And to be totally honest the Witcher 3 runs bad on both... Not a really good performance on any of the consoles.

[2pacalypsenow]

Last gen when Ps3 got the gimped 3rd party games all the xbox fans made sure everyone knew , now its the other way around and "It doesn't matter" Ha

[assdan]

let's remove indies and remasters, then look at the numbers again.

[Xbonewone32015]

They did remove the indies.

Lets count it now.

[assdan]

Bladestorm, blue state, Borderlands, Diablo 3, dishonored, DMCx2, Final Fantasy, Game of thrones, gears of war, gigantic, GTAV, Life is strange, minecraft, neverwinter, ori and the blind forrest, Outlast, payday, outlast, pnuema, resident evil. I would continue, but I've made my point.

[assdan]

Remasters and non AAA/ indies. Like half of the items on that list.

[Kiwi66]

What point are you trying to make

[Kiwi66]

Are you saying that neverwinter is a remaster when it hasn't been on consoles before lol

[Kiwi66]

To the disagrees you are thinking of neverwinter nights yet he says neverwinter which isn't the version thats currently on xb1 and coming to ps4 so how can it be a remaster if they aren't the same version , it would be a remaster if it was

[WizzroSupreme]

I just play my Xbox One to play great games. Some run at 1080p. Some run at 720p. Every bad game was never going to be fun at any resolution.

[HeyNowChillax]

We will get it. In time all games will run 1080p 60fps on both consoles as developers learn to tweak the systems. Then, we'll see stereoscopic 3D after they stretch those frame rates to compensate for the loss in resolution. Remember gears of war in 3d; think it ran at 540p coop and it was f'n awesome! Or Uncharted which was 720p in 3D and it was just sick. That all happened years after all mainstream was running 720p, outside of those small indies running 1080.

Let the numbers go, in time our consoles develop into to amazing machines PC gamers still get to compare 6+ years after their release on way more advanced hardware. Here's to ingenuity, we all benefit from time spent developing great games. Some people have endless money to spend on the absolute highest fidelity, others enjoy couch worthy HD entertainment. I for one enjoy hardware that just get's better over time, a true investment.

[Maxor]

Sorry but no, hell no. There's no way all games will run @ 1080p 60 FPS on both consoles. Ancient last gen remastered, yes, but not all games. Hitting 1080p 60 FPS requires power. Real power. That kind of power that is beyond the reach of this generation of consoles.

[Bolts]

In the entire history of modern gaming no one have ever programed their way from 30 FPS to 60 FPS. The difference between 1080p and 900p is insignificant, the difference between 30 FPS and 60 FPS is huge. That is such a performance leap that if you run two PS4 in parallel you would probably only get 45 FPS.

To reach 60 FPS consistently you will need a PC level hardware and that's not happening until the PS5...even then it's a big maybe.

[TABSF]

2015 and consoles are still struggling with 1080p 60fps :/

[Pixelart]

That's the sad part. Both have weak as crap hardware. Watching these fanboys argue is like arguing who's cleanest bum in town

[Ace Killa 08]

We do need to demand more from devs.

[fulnattybrah]

I guess that 720p box joke just died....

[DarXyde]

I just like to play fun and sexy looking games that runs at 30+ fps with no serious dips.

All this article implies is that (a) we spend way too much time being invested in resolution all around and (b) Xbox gamers really do care about resolution, contrary to the usual spiel. Obviously the author does not represent all Xbox fans, but why bother writing this article? The games on ask consoles still look really good, Wii U included.

[Pixelart]

30fps locked is a permanent dip

[DarXyde]

I think you know what I meant. 30 fps should be the bare minimum for games, but if it dips within 10 fps, it's still payable. Or, if it dips even more, then so long addr it is very sporadic, I can be okay with it.

Depends on the game really.

[Ace Killa 08]

why not go for 60 FPS? You'll like it even more if you do try it.

[DarXyde]

Yes, but something you need to remember: console hardware is fixed. That means developers know exactly what they're dealing with. PC doesn't have the same guidelines. You see, there's so much variability with PC, making developers need to develop games for not the highest end rigs because that will truncate how accessible a title is, but for mid range PCs to get by. Technically, developers can create a game so demanding that a supercomputer can only run it at 720p/30fps. 60fps is totally relative to whatever specs the developer has in mind. Any hardware can be pushed so resolution and frame rate drops. At the same time, hardware can sacrifice fidelity and assets to improve frame rate and resolution. 30fps I'd consider the minimum because it's still a very serviceable frame rate.

[lastking95]

Ps fanboys have egg on their face. You constantly hear xbox can't 1080p yet 70% of the games are, and this is on outdated sku and api. It honestly seem like ps fanboys be more upset than xbox gamers when a game is announced to be running at 900p. In the end majority of people dgaf or can see a difference. As long as the quality is HD (which is 720p if you didn't know) and framerate is smooth idgaf what res or frames it's running.

[forgetmenot]

so do we care about sales are do we not care about sales, is it all about exclusives or who has the better multiplats , do p/fps matter or not i just dont get it
can we be honest or do we just wanna believe in the lie?

[dcbronco]

All of this 1080p nonsense will soon be useless. People can point to games that aren't 1080all day long, but the people who are honest with themselves know Xbox One still is fully what it was meant to be. A console running Windows 10 and dx12. As it has gotten closer to being what it's supposed to be the majority of the games have been 1080p. This time next year you won't be able to talk about this. So let it go now. Most of you couldn't tell the difference to save your life.

[elitethinker]

they should talk about that myth of the cloud, Titanfall 2 coming to PS4. The clouds was a myth

[strickers]

Honestly now, who cares? I'm more interested in the fact that my console of choice (PS4), has the best games (according to aggregation and my opinion), the most games (I don't care about the publishing level, as long as there's a mix), the most varied games (impossible to argue if you use logic at all) and technically the most advanced games 85% of the time.
Resolution does not matter. Overall visual quality does.

[Kiwi66]

I think that someone should make a game where the objective is to count pixels , i bet it would sell millions of copies as that seems to be what most people do these days

[PudgeyBurrito]

They forgot to mention how many these need to be patched. How many are remakes of last gen games which without a doubt should reach that. This is just a copy of this list which shows a better picture .

http://ca.ign.com/wikis/xbo...

[corroios]

Another PR payed «news» to try and downplay one of the biggest problems between the batlle of hardcore gamers, lol, this gen.

Everybody know that the news with most comments on this site is when a game runs at 900p on the Xbox One. It can get to 300, 400 or 500 comments, like it happend wiht MGSV.

Does it matter? yes, for hardcore gamers here, nobody can hide the numbers. Because from that moment the game is inferior to the PS4 version. That is hard to handle for hardcore gamers.

[Picnic]

It's become accepted that whereas PS4 pushes for 1080p sometimes at the cost of framerate, Xbox One priorities a more stable framerate.

This supports the view that Xbox one caters for a more hardcore, multiplayer focussed, market in terms of the fast paced games whereas PS4 caters more for slower, single player, games where an occasional loss of frame rate is not the be all and end all.

[Destiny1080]

the bones digging deep on this one

[aerisbueller]

Myth? It's not a myth. The 900p thing (or other downgrades) has happened with a lot of games. Peoples' perception is based off of seeing it over and over. Trying to fudge with the numbers will do nothing to change that, especially when we'll probably see it come up again in the next few months with some other multiplat

[Condemnedman]

Of course it matters to those you like to think their console is so Much more powerful when it's a little bit better at some games. I don't care if there is a more powerful console out there ms meet my gaming needs and how I use my console for other things. Game on

[_LarZen_]

Should change the headline to "Damage control".

[GNCFLYER]

Wow, this article. These comments.

Websites need clicks to survive so they make sesational titles which are guaranteed to bring people.

Or one fanboy will ignite a storm like this. Yes I have taken part to, dragged in so to speak like many others.

Yes Xbox is slightly weaker but the games look close to what's on PS4. To close to care without pixel counting.

It would be nice if we could get back to discussing the games.

[0to100]

multiplats are the issue with x1, because it sometimes requires an engine update, or a change in a way to utilize esram efficiently, most multiplat devs won't take too much time to optimize for x1 because of deadlines to release on time.

[gbonez]

just like with the old generation, the long this hardware and software is available to the devs the better they will get at utilizing it. Look at the games at the end of the the 360, they looked awesome compared to the launch day games.

Xbox one can put out 1080P at 60fps, it's been done before. It all depends on the devs and how they use the tools given to them.

[GNCFLYER]

Yes your eSRAM.

It's the same boat ps3 was in last gen with the cell.

[Captain_TomAN94]

Pretty good considering it is 50% of a next gen console.

[Jamesx82x]

Not reading the article just commenting on some comments.

There is not a big difference is picture quality in 900p vs 1080p even though its a lot of pixels in difference.

With that said if you take the same graphical assets and put one 900p and one 1080p native then upscale the 900p to 1080p the native 1080p will always look better.

30fps is fine for some game types that are not fast paced action however every single game ever made at 30fps would still be better at 60fps.

For me personally I can notice a slight blurring to 900p games compared to the native 1080p ones but that doesnt affect my purchase decisions because the slight blurring is very hard to pick up during gameplay its usually just noticeable during pauses or when you stop moving.

I would rather developers focus on 60FPS and bigger and better worlds with better lighting over trying to hit 1080p. Sure I want 1080p if they dont have to sacrifice the other things but those other things to me are more important than the resolution the game runs in.

Also I would rather a game run at a locked 30fps over an unlocked 60fps because 30fps with no dips is good. 60fps with dips to 40fps is bad. This situation played out with Tomb Raider DE 2 different studios did the remasters for PS4 and XB1 and the PS4 studio went with 1080p unlocked 60fps and the XB1 studio went with 1080p locked 30fps and I found the XB1 version more enjoyable without having to feel the stutters during the frame rate drops.

[TheGreyest]

This list really betrays itself. When you add in remasters, cross gen games, sports games and indies, of course the percentage is going to be higher. When you look at the games in the 30 percent range though, you see why the system gets the rep it does.