Alongside the news of Messi being cover star, Konami has released the first trailer for Pro Evolution Soccer 2009.
After see this video from PES2009 and yesterday FIFA09 i have no doubt, BY NOW, to say FIFA's way better then PES in graphics and physics too, this pes2009 doesn't look better then 2008. We'll have to wait for both final produtcs to come out and then testing and review them by equal.
Gameplay >>>> Graphics and that's what real football fans care about.
after playin both pes and fifa, ive found the pes gameplay a bit quicker and better. but what i like about fifa is all the options you have.
PES looks amazing and the moves are way much better. I'm truly impressed by PES
. . . @ 1 How can you say FIFA is better ? That trailer looks Awsome, Gameplay look really Different, Ball seems Heavier, seems Slower Gameplay which is good, It looks really good The graphics look great, Good PLayer Detail and Lighting Effects in the Stadium look mint Look better than the 'No Change' Fifa 09 Gameplay which i saw earlier
are you serious?, first that stadium look like a farmyard, can't match FIFA stadiums. Have you seen Ronaldinho and Rooney in FIFA09??? they both look amazing, here Messi look normal like FIFA08 or worse.
fifa is more realistic.
lmao pes fanboy j/k you still playing online lewi?
I still think Fifa 09 will be the better of the two this year. Konami has not yet completed work on their new game engine. I am confident they will by next year and they will or should take the crown again. However,Fifa 09 is progressing at a great speed. Also,true gamers buy both and don't hate for nothing. Is it so hard to believe that Fifa is finally better? People who were on the Konami team are now making Fifa.
hahaha what a crappy game, nothing compare to FIFA09..have you guys play Euro2008? the gameplay was amazing, FIFA09 will be amazing...PES is death. But i hope atleast PES09 have a better online gameplay.
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooow . im so pumped about this game now. look at the animations. cool. i guess they really got up off their lazy butts and actually did some work this time. sick
please tell me that thats the ps2 version
So far so FIFA
FIFA 09 Better ? That Trailer Was Decent, really good Graphics and The hole new Gameplay Engine. How can you say FIFA stadiums are better? All FIFA stadiums all look the same, Like when playing 08... doing a Prem Season, when you play away. . .You allways play at the same god damn Stadium But with pes, you have Different Ones, Better ones. The graphics with that Trailer look awsome, You see Ball controll of Messi i think it was near Begining ? . . .Amazing, PES 09 is at a differnt Level, by the Looks of it they have change LOADS of tbhings, Graphics, Engine, Ball Phiysics Ect. Where as FIFA, they only change small thing as Player Strengh and how the player goes over when tackled, when you playing you will not Relise, Pro evo is the King, And will Continue to be.
well im guessing you dont understand spanish and you didnt see the entire video of FIFA, because to anyone who understood everything they were saying, its clear that there are huge improvements in the gameplay and AI in FIFA. On the other hand PES is looking just like a prettier version of 08. And if you read some of the things people are saying, there are many things that they havent fixed in PES09, like the awfull referee, goalkeeping and AI. Its still the master league instead of something like fifa, and we cant even get the full england league... Dont get me wrong, i've always been a PES fan, but after 2008 i wont just buy a game because it has SLIGHTLY better gameplay, and sucks at everything else
anyone who likes fifa knows nothing about how the game is played, GAMEPLAY is everything which is something fifa will never get close at, this game looks by far better than fifa 09.
i don´t know what people like about PES. Fifa 09 looks much more realistic to me.
but the gameplay isnt good , even with the major overhaul they gave it with 08 .
only talking for yourself here amigo. Don't generalize. Every critic out there agrees that Fifa 08 was the best football game last year. I am a Pro Evo fan,but the truth is it hasn't evolved on HD consoles yet. What more,Fifa09 will be 30% faster and more responsive this year which definitely puts it above PES now.
Funny thing is that trailer had a fair amount of CGI - particularly the close ups of Messi. You thought that was in-game? Clearly 100% CGI. You should see the screenshots, hardly any visual improvement. An Eyes-On preview at PESFAN blog said they only improved the lighting in the game. FIFA 09 for me this year, without a doubt. PES is just relying on its past reputation. Many people fell for it last year and I cant play the game, its unplayable. And don't get me started on the Online play, the game is made by KONAMI - nuff said. They fracked up with PES2006, and the 2008 version and I wont bother again. People who still say Pro Evo is the best are just blind and I cant wait to see them trading in their copies for FIFA
Because you play Online. Have you got mates to play with? when my mates come round, we all do like a tourdement or something, we all be Different Teams and have A luagh and Great Close games Between Each Other. But you can do that with Fifa, Because gameplay is Horrible, After pressing x to pass for the 50th Time the player takes 10 min to pass the ball. Dont evan get me started on shooting long range On fifa, you cant, as pro evo you can allways pull a suprise out of the bad against your mate and score a 30yr with Fabregas or Whoeever. With PES, you can the play the game you want, Fast paced 1 touch passing or just However you play. But fifa on the Other hand, you cant play like Arsenal or Fast Paced Action cus the gameplay is too slow And Un-Responsive!
...Let me see it again... ..yep, still underwhelming.
I`m not impressed one bit,looks like i`ll be owning another Fifa for the second time after last years fiasco..enough with the excuses already,for christ sake improve your graphics engine and make gameplay smooth again or else you gonna ruin this series Konami
I used to be a fan of PES but as you can see the game has not evolved graphically since PES2005. Even now the gameplay of PES is (imo) better than FIFA but PES is losing its edge and FIFA's gameplay is quite decent. But at this point that tiny advantage in gameplay cant make up for all gfx, team licenses, options, online, presentation, etc.. incorporated in fifa. PES plays a little bit better but i ll be getting fifa09 (i was satisfied with 2008 already)
Even PES 08 with its crap frame rate and graphics, still played amazingly like all PES games. Fifa PLAYS crap. FACT. Just try PES, you will know what we mean. Forget stats, graphics, teams, this is not an American sport, it's about game play and SKILL. FIFA has NONE of that.
lol, did u even try to play fifa 2008? (dont bother with fifa 06 or 07)
Dude i`v been a pro evo fan since the ps1 days and i can confirm Fifa is stepping up to be the premiere choice
My problem is that I can't get into FIFA now after playing PES for so long. The engine in PES lets me think 3 passes ahead, and it keeps up. Fifa just seems to react in the moment. I wish FIFA played better, it looks amazing, sadly it does not.
since 2008, PES has just gone completely backwards. Even though i have always supported PES (heck even ISS too back in the day) I have to say that it really has fallen gracefully from its once untouchable level. Fifa 08 dominated pes 08 in not just graphics but gameplay too, if you're not ignorant you would realize that. I'm afraid it's going to be the same this year again also, fifa 09 will continue to make more significant strides in the next generation of football gaming, sadly, PES will not. I've seen both personally and I can tell you FIFA is looking MUCH more appealing. You will definitely get a more "PES" feel with FIFA 09, I can tell you that, especially with the new responsiveness changes :) should be good to see how it all pans out though
Fifa is crap its like three passes then a goal scoring oppurtunity. The Ai in PES makes you work for goal scoring chances. The animations are more fluid and life like and the players do not look rubber like in FIFA. its only maericans who say Fifa is better because they dont know anything about football.
Been pes fan for ages but after last years horrible game i think ill start buying Fifa games again as 08 was quite good.
pes???i thought they will stop producing this game cos last one was really crap!!!i mean really crap!!!
The irony here is that the PES series hasn't been living up to its name for a few years, meaning it hasn't shown any significant signs of real "evolution", but rather sat on its laurels. In the meantime, EA has been pushing FIFA forward in leaps and bounds when it comes to honing gameplay and adding authentic depth to a series where it's ALWAYS held the upper hand on presentation, graphics and animation. Anyone who's played BE A PRO mode in Euro 08 will know that FIFA 09's confirmed BE A PRO career mode is likely to catapult FIFA to the top and leave PES looking rather ordinary this year... unless Konami can pull some genuine evolution out of the bag. All will be revealed in Sept/Oct. Having played (and reviewed) both series entrants over the last couple of years, my money's on FIFA, folks.
and i missed the PES era on ps2, but when i saw their graphics and heard they had some frame rate issues in the next gen, it really didn't feel fun to me. Frame rates are very important in sports game. But having played Euro 2008 wow!!!! it's the best soccer game i've ever played. I'm pretty sure it's the same engine as Fifa 08 (can somebody confirm this?). It feels very smooth and the controls are very nice (especially when you start using non-assisted passes), but i understand the responsiveness issues in Fifa / Euro can be frustrating sometimes. Is this something that doesn't happen in PES? People say the gameplay is better, but that seems kinda vague to me, can somebody explain in details how it is better?
hasn't changed one bit. Have you seen the Arsneal v Chelsea video on FIFA 09. It's excellent. Perfect improvements over last year. Excellent game by miles. PES 09 hasn't improved since PES 6 on 360. TBH the best PES is still PES 4 by a long shot. Oh and guys expect another crippled edit mode and online mode.
Isn't it time they caught-up? I mean, ISS and Pro Evo used to be the daddies of their time... now? Friggin' FIFA does it!
masive pro evo fan but that was lame didnt show great gameplay at all just looks like defence is even more poorer than 2008 and what there actualy showin this year is that messi is one of the players that can run through the whole team. konami pes is in trouble fifa 09 had the graphics and now they have the speed of pro plus way better defence more licenses and more tricks and more animation.
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