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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain Review - IGN

IGN reviews Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain.

RpgSama3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

So, I guess it's good?, hahahaha.

Kojima went out of Konami with a mic drop! AWESOME!!.

Enemy3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

The review doesn't really make sense. They seem to criticize the story and still give it a 10. Hype creates yet another weird review, I guess.

@ Below: Yeah, the same happened with MGS4, though that game was actually a 10 for me. Maybe this will be too. I'll buy it used, since I'm not giving Konami any money. They already paid Kojima, thankfully. They won't get a penny from me ever again.

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mikeslemonade3580d ago

meh.. I will get it but Bloodborne still the true game of the year.

DLConspiracy3580d ago

@boundtoscale

"10/10 doesn't mean a perfect game with no flaws or weak points, read the ign score scale."

I don't know how IGN does their scoring but a 10/10 technically is a perfect score anywhere. Otherwise it would be a 9.5/10. So it is a little conflicting. Even if I am excited for the game.

XBLSkull3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

Lol 10/10. I don't doubt that the game is great but really?

"cut scenes were sparse and brief"

Hell yes, I knew this was going to be the best game of the series. Real excited to play now.

Kleptic3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

I'm a huge MGS fan, and even with that said...

the EXACT same problems popped up with MGS4 back in 2008...it scored perfectly, yet has what the reviewer calls problems...MGS4 being too many cut scenes iirc..

in either case, it just overall shows that scores given to games are pointless...the score attempts to give objectivity to a subjective opinion that is impossible to justify regardless of what the reviewer or website tries to say...

they love to say its 'perfect' in a numerical sense, but then say 'nothing is perfect, and it depends what else is available at the time of release' in writing...undermining all of the critical credibility of the entire thing...Its the main flaw of gaming as entertainment, and the media platforms associated with the industry...People love to say a 'great game is a great game' regardless of visuals, regardless of technical prowess, and that its all art, gameplay, and everyone being happy...but...then cop out with how everything above does matter for the numbers, because they still salivate about the visuals, salivate about the technical prowess, and flip out about how technically advanced every 'new' game is...

in the end...they can't have it both ways...and their system remains a bad joke a decade later...

but, whatever...I'm glad its 'perfect'. MGS4 remains one of the single greatest single player games i've ever experience...Even with IGN declaring MGS4 as a 'masterpiece', which by definition CAN NOT be improved on given the context of a single artist...Kojima having made a second masterpiece...i guess its an outlier, and not worth worrying about...

Muerte24943580d ago

Adam Boyes is killing it over there for Sony in securing high-profiled AAA games. Watchdogs, Destiny, Batman Arkham Knight, and now Metal Gear V. EU and JPN are getting the red PS4 bundles. This games will sell regardless of which platform is on. I'm sure it will become and standard for benchmarking GFX cards on PC. As for consoles this will definitely move the needle in Sony favor again running at a native 1080p. Can't wait for this game guys. I'll also be on MGO when it's released a month later.

bouzebbal3580d ago

Bloodborne and now MGS5, 2015 has been one hell of a ride!

Gazondaily3580d ago

Solid (hehe) review. I'm a bit disappointed about what I'm hearing about the story mind you. The thing about MGS games is the story that really lingers on in my head once I complete them.

Anyway, Ill make up my own mind about it but I can't wait!

Maddens Raiders3579d ago

@skull

Just go home m8. No one wants to listen to your constant stealth troll drivel and your want-to-sound-intelligent-and- seem-objective-whilst-all-the-w hile-providing-quasi-truthful-y et-slanted opinions of your gf the MS corporation and her products. Just go, hurry and run along now, it's almost bed time and the acts up.

OT -

Day one of course. Review or no damn review.

RedDevils3579d ago

This will be the last good MGS that worth playing. From here on the next MGS will be downward since Kojima will no longer there

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fermcr3580d ago

Hummm... this game is getting average scores. /s

sactownlawyer9163580d ago

I wonder which site will be the first to troll and give it a 6.

Vanfernal3580d ago

@sactolawyer916

Probably someone like Jim Sterling

ZombieKiller3579d ago

@fermcr: Actually this is kinda average for a MGS games score. These games are a cut above the rest even with flaws.

... And XBLSkull do you ever get ANY agrees? Maybe you're commenting on the wrong site....

Grap3580d ago

Defnitlay the game is great but i don't know about ign they are MGS fanboys. So maybe they are a little bias, anyway i don't care the game is good and day one for sure.

boodi3580d ago

gamespot' another fanboys?..
and more 10/10 to come .. i guess the game will get very high scores all across the globe..

OB1Biker3580d ago

Scores are ridiculous these days. I usually find GI reviews more spot on IMO. Definitely a great game though and one to remain in my HD for a long long time.

KurtRussell3579d ago

CoD's and MGS' get 9,10 but Alien isolation gets 6. Ofc they are fanboys and biased. But MGSV deserves atleast 8, probably even 9 from what i've seen in Ground Zeroes and trailers (10 is a bit overkill imo since i would rate that high few games, if any at all). Anyway, IGN and Gaymspot are the last sources i would look for an opinion on anything.

StrawberryDiesel4203580d ago

It's gonna be even better than MGS4! First Gears of War Remaster on XBone then MGS5 on PS4 a few days later. I shall be busy over the next few weeks.

Scottyxboxoneandps43580d ago

@StrawberryDiesel420
Agreed. It's awesome being a multi-console gamer. This game is gonna be great fun!!!

Haru3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

Too bad to hear that the story isnt so great, but i expected so much

Name Last Name3580d ago

After reading a few reviews it seems that gameplay is heavily favored over story. A lot of the story is hidden away in audio logs just like in Ground Zeroes. A pity, since the story is my favorite part of MGS.

Bathyj3580d ago

Gameplay was always my favourite part, and Im glad Metal Gear has finally evolved with modern controls and camera. Ground Zero was great, despite all the whining about its length. Funny how much complaining there was about this "demo" yet I've played over 30 hours on it, more than many full retail games I enjoyed.

CaptainObvious8783580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

Thank you to all the casuals, like xblskull, that have no love for the MGS universe and complained there were too many amazing cut scenes that actually showed character depth and exposition.

You could have just used the skip button, but no, because of your dude bro attitude that was too much for you and now I'm left with a game that seems to have next to know narrative.

And now the real fans of the franchise have to suffer.

scark923580d ago

Yeah, I would love long ass cutscenes!

Dario_DC3580d ago

Agree 10000%! The cut scenes are the soul of MGS universe and the gameplay is the heart.
I'm very concearned about the " Sparse story"... I'm sick and tired of open world games that have a "sparse story"! -Just go here do this, go there do that- Here's a little bit of story, now, rinse and repeat! This is the reason why I didn't finish Farcry4, no decent story whatsoever....
Hope MGS5 story is still strong, because if it's mostly on audio files I'm gonna be mad!

Stringerbell3579d ago

Or we could blame Kojima / Konami for not having a backbone and caving in to what these 'casuals' wanted. Just a thought.

CaptainObvious8783580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

"...the fact that she’s also required to be a lust-object is disappointing."

Sigh... You just had to insert your ideology, didn't you. I wonder if you really believe that or if it's just lip service to please the corrupt gaming media.

Maybe you could explain to me why having a lust object as a plot device is so disappointing? Why is is death ok? Why is killing and exploiting and stocking up on nuclear devices ok? Hell, why is children soldiers ok.

Thrusting a gun in a 10 year olds hands and forcing him to kill to fine in a narrative is perfectly fine, but as soon as a woman shows a bit of cleavage, OH NO! We can't have that!

But on a happier note, can't wait to play this game!

OB1Biker3580d ago

Agreed
The gaming media still have a long way to go I'm afraid.

generic-user-name3579d ago

How do these people survive going to a beach and seeing women in bikinis?

MoveTheGlow3579d ago (Edited 3579d ago )

From reading the review, I feel like this writer saw it as a cliche that was out of place. Kinda like if you saw a new cop movie that really immersed you in its unique world, only to suddenly hear from the main cop that he's one day away from retirement, and hear the villain say "We're not so different, you and I," word for word. It's like "oh great, here we go again with the compulsory butt shot" or whatever.

That said, MGS is a franchise featuring heavy cliches, often from movies that were made within its timeline. This isn't out of place in an 80s espionage thriller in the least, and I don't think it's out of place here. In Snake Eater, there was Eva, and she was completely thematic because it was a Bond flick-influenced game.

Particularly miffed writers will say that it doesn't matter - the theme should have been different, or it should have been altered or subverted so women are treated equally (heck, he's saying Quiet is the best character, so is that a subversion anyway?). I don't really see this as a problem in MGS - there's precedent in the past games. Then again, I'm a dude who's played games for 30 years, so my perspective doesn't apply to everyone. YMMV, basically, but this game looks GOOD.

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Magicite3579d ago

Konami has lost their BEST asset, Kojima.

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Jalva3580d ago

IGN only gives perfect scores based on franchise reputation and hype, you of all people should know that Niko.

ginsunuva3580d ago

Um... do you know what they gave MGS4?

Snookies123580d ago

Yesss, I can't freaking wait!! Now to go distract myself for a little over a week...

Jaqen_Hghar3579d ago

but Until Dawn is just a day away! A man is waiting till BF for this.

Null3579d ago

I just love how you're so committed to this character.

Jaqen_Hghar3579d ago

first rule of being a man. Do NOT break character.

Der_Kommandant3579d ago

I asked for vacations just for this.

PaleMoonDeath3579d ago

Planning a "Severe stomache bug" for next week ;)

JMaine5183580d ago

Wow! I didn't know the review embargo was up yet! This is great news!

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Metal Gear Solid 5, Nearly After A Decade, Is Still A Timeless Classic

The Metal Gear series, led by Kojima, pioneered the stealth genre, creating a masterclass in storytelling and gameplay.

SimpleSlave371d ago (Edited 371d ago )

No. But MGS5: Ground Zeroes might actually be one of the greatest Game Demo ever, if not the best.

xHeavYx371d ago

I know a lot of people didn't, but I actually liked that story twist at the end. The game was fun and all, but I wouldn't call it a timeless classic.

Cacabunga370d ago

Metal Gear legend stopped with number 4.
MGS5 needed a year or 2 more of development to be maybe among the classics.. it was clearly rushed, especially at the end. The story teaches us absolutely nothing new.

just_looken371d ago

A demo is free that was a $40 cry for help as later we would know konami did not want to fun hideo and his team anymore that is why we got the unfinished phantom pain.

-Foxtrot371d ago (Edited 371d ago )

Meh

Great stealth gameplay but the game was just average.

Bland open world that felt lifeless, the story felt shoehorned in, unfinished story etc. The whole thing was just average to me compared to the other main titled games.

I would have rather preferred it if they kept Ground Zeroes for the main game as the opening and the rest of the game turns into a Metal Gear 1 & 2 remake to bring things full circle.

just_looken371d ago

If you dig around they had old behind trhe scenes of phantom pain vids and books wrote around the time.

Before funding was puled the main idea was to keep peace walker coop it was in the games early builds and that end game were your building your base that was suppose to be metal gear one.

You as the fake big boss was going to make your own metal gear one map aka your base (outer heaven) then me as sold snake use the mode that is in the game invade/defeat the base even fight your current version of metal gear that was in the game but not finished.

So your idea was on the table bit got canned.

CrimsonWing69371d ago (Edited 371d ago )

Like hell it is. That was the first time I became aware of being sold an unfinished game and was blown away about blind fanboys saying it was some perfect game.

Yea, the first few chapters were great until they do that thing halfway and make you replay all the missions again. Then little things like capturing animals but only seeing a JPEG unlike 3 where everything was modeled out. Areas were massive, desolate, and boring to look at.

Game was a massive let down for me and the potential was so high for it. Honestly, this was one of the most disappointing games I ever played. What’s worse is it starts off brilliant. You literally play through until you get to the point where you could tell they just stopped developing and then quickly used glue and construction paper to “finish” it and then sold it. Quite frankly, that’s insulting to consumers and fans.

Inverno371d ago

People have selective memory. This game had huge drama attached to it, what Konami did to Kojima and this game was horrible. Now they praise Konami cause they revived Silent Hill, even though SH looks half arsed too.

CrimsonWing69371d ago

I dunno if they’re getting much praise after the Silent Hill 2 debacle. Makes me scared sh*tless for the MGS 3 Remake…

Michiel1989370d ago

I don't wanna defend konami, but Kojima had 7 years to make the game, it's not that weird for a publisher to expect a game to be finished in that amount of time.

Also no one is praising konami from what I've seen, they're just excited that a Silent Hill game is releasing

CrimsonWing69370d ago (Edited 370d ago )

@Michiel1989

You’re absolutely correct. Look, the dude is a visionary and has brought us some incredible games, but he constantly would go over budget and could never stick to a deadline. I don’t know if people remember the MGS 4 trailers but it became a joke when you’d see a release date and then they crossed it out in the next trailer to give another.

What a lot of people don’t know is there’s a certain amount of money given for development and marketing. When you go over the budget and add additional marketing over the deadline it isn’t cheap. MGS GZ and V were laughable to me for the amount of time he had to develop them and he spent even more time on the engine that wasn’t anything revolutionary to me. I mean, GZ was nothing more than a demo and they released that art like $40 I think, probably to further help fund V. He then spent money for Kiefer Sutherland who did nothing for the character, which I think Kojima just wanted because he’s a fan.

Konami just had enough and said this is the deadline and you’re done after this. It’s business, but fans took it personal. I mean look at this Overdose game he’s been doing.,, like when is that ever coming out?

Michiel1989369d ago

I kind of forgot about overdose but yeah exactly my thoughts. He has made some of the best games out there and definitely deserves time to create his new masterpiece, but it's not a bottomless well.

This is pure speculation but I imagine he got around 4 years to make the game excluding pre-production. If after those 4 years the game is nowhere near being done, the relationship will be strained between them one way or another.

about the konami being praised thing, if let's say blizzard announces world of warcraft 2 today I'll be excited as hell for the game, but that doesn't mean my opinion of blizzard changes only a tiny bit cause they're still trash.

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Yui_Suzumiya370d ago

Yeah, it was the only MGS I didn't play and this is coming from someone who got back into gaming after skipping a generation due to MGS4 back in 2008. It just seems to be the complete opposite of the MGS I always knew and loved (1-4).

JEECE371d ago

Yes and no. In many ways in was a great game; there's a very strong argument that it has the best gameplay of any MGS game, and that it is one of the more interesting open world "playgrounds" we have gotten, in terms of how the world operates. But as an MGS narrative, it is pretty far down the list, for many reasons.

Storm23371d ago

I don't think there is any argument. The gameplay was incredible. But yeah...disappointed in the rest. Could have been incredible but...well...we all know what happened...

JEECE369d ago

I don't think there is much of one either but apparently some people found the world very boring compared to the more linear structures of other entries so I didn't make a definitive statement in order to acknowledge the outliers.

DarXyde370d ago

The thing about Metal Gear Solid is that the narrative is what determines which is your favorite because the gameplay had ALWAYS improved with every mainline entry. It's amazing.

If it was gameplay, we'd all say The Phantom Pain, but the story is what truly sets them apart.

For me, that's Snake Eater, which is also my favorite game of all time.

JEECE369d ago

That's my favorite too, particularly if we are talking about the subsistence version with camera control.

Fishy Fingers371d ago

For me, best gameplay, worst, everything else.

Storm23371d ago

Yeah...gameplay was so damn good.

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