Doom 4 Announced, Will Use Tech 5 Engine but Look Better than RAGE

Today John Carmack revealed at QuakeCon '08 that the "next Doom" -- which we'll call Doom 4, for now -- is in development and looking good. More inside.

[Viktor E]

Hopefully they wont have to compress the Xbox 360 version too much.

[pwnsause]

but he said it will look better than rage, but who knows

[sushipoop]

If he's saying Doom 4 will look better than Rage (he didn't actually say that BTW) then yeah they'll need to compress the 360 version EVEN MORE than what they're doing with Rage, obviously. But then it really just depends on how big Doom 4 will be in comparison to Rage. http://www.n4g.com/News-177...

[Real gamer 4 life]

Is doom coming out for the ps3?

[kazuma]

yes, it is. pc, ps3, 360.

[ILikeButter]

18 dvds = 3 blurays

[Real gamer 4 life]

Thank for the answer. I remember playing doom back in the days on the n64. I am looking forward to this game, it bring back memories from my childhood.

[TheColbertinator]

How about Mac?I got a blu ray equipped mac so Doom 4 could be on it,right?

[CrazzyMan]

and don`t forget, that on DVD you will have to DUBLICATE textures, sound and etc. on EVERY dvd. =)

[ILikeButter]

Too bad a PS3 can not read a multi-layer BD =)
EDIT: I am talking about the 100GB BD which is 4 layers not 2.
@1.12
The firmware update is not out yet, and it might not ever come out since they are only guessing that it will make existing drives compatible.
EDIT: Fine I was wrong =). To be fair I only guessed it wouldn't work.
EDIT: Ok so the PS3 maybe might be able to read a 100GB BD

[Playstation Man]

MGS4 says hi?

[mistertwoturbo]

@1.10

"Hitachi, however, claims to have used a standard Blu-Ray drive optical head that's only slightly modified to allow it to read and write data across the four 25GB layers. It's believed this will only require a firmware update to make existing drives compatible."

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news...

MASSIVE DAMAGE...

[morganfell]

You do know that a 50GB BR disk has more than one layer, right?

And uh, Whoops! As stated above you are wrong. PS3 reads quad layer.

http://www.maxconsole.net/?...

Also Pioneer says the PS3 will read the 400GB BR disk if interference is controlled during manufacturing. That is based on prototype disks which means as they do more research it get's easier to increase the capacity of the disk. You know, the disc that crushed the house Toshiba built along with their idiot plumbers - Microsoft.

Some sites are saying it won't be compatible and then if you look they quote the Pioneer press release where they say it will in fact work.

http://pioneer.jp/press/rel...

"Since the optical specifications of the objective lens, such as NA (Numerical Aperture)*2, are the same as those for the existing BD discs, it is possible to maintain compatibility between the new 16-layer optical disc and the BD discs."

[TheIneffableBob]

Since it's id Tech 5, and id Tech 5 is designed to be easily run on various platforms, I'm guessing Doom 4 is going to be on PC, PS3, 360, Mac, and possibly Linux.

[mistertwoturbo]

Yeah well I'm sure whoever is researching the firmware to make the current drives compatible with quad-layer BDs aren't really crunching right now. Seeing as how there's not really a need for it yet. But once Blu-Ray's start becoming common in people's PCs, then we'll see a bigger push.

Right now, the biggest use for BD's is just movies and games.

[Pr3-M3d_G4M3R]

Its s amazing just how far this game has come. From the crappy block graphics with square blood and the same groans and ughns when you press on a wall to this gens graphics and availability...insane I tell ya!

[IaMs12]

Well yes it may need to be compressed but isnt RAGE an openworld game? so it has a lot more to it then you would think DooM4 may need... so they may need to compress but it may yet still be on 1 disc... we will find out sooner or later... this is one im keeping an eye out for :)

[Rob0g0rilla]

It was pretty bad on consoles. It didn't work out. What annoyed me the most was the fact that you couldn't shoot and have your flashlight out at the same time. Online was pretty bad. I'm still puzzled as to why Doom 3 is popular.

I only played it on Xbox 1. PC version was probaly a lot better. I never played it on PC BTW.

[Breakfast]

Because every pc shooter, was touched by the hand of god.

...or so the legend goes...

[Uncguy0457]

Doom 3 was a really fun game in my opinion, but no, it was not special in any way.

[ape007]

doom 3 was an awesome game

very well constructed game

each level in doom3(while has similar environment) has a special feel to them,special pacing,weapon use,ammo,enemies,each level build up with you nicely(I love that style)

while I hate game design like halo,each level has the same enemies,health is rechargeable and few veachles here and there
only few weapons,you can only have two

developer today use that new design style,because it's easier to do

[mistertwoturbo]

Doom 3 was ok. The random enemies that spawned up when you walk passed a certain area was pretty annoying though.

[TheIneffableBob]

Doom 3 wasn't a bad game, it just wasn't an amazing game. It played like the old Dooms, but in 3D. It's fun if you don't take it too seriously.

[xionpunk]

i bought doom 3 for my pc, and it was alright. It just got boring really quick, the same with Quake 4. I will say that I liked D3 better than Q4 though.

[silverchode]

who thinks the doom movie sucked?

[pwnsause]

"SEMPER FI Mother F**KER"- The rock /Facepalm

[beavis4play]

i thought the movie did a good job building the suspense and a sense of dread for the first hour; but, after that the plot just sucked.

[pwnsause]

the only part that was good in the movie was when they went into first person view. i though the whole movie was going to be like an FPS, but i was wrong.

[ape007]

the movie was a total let down

it was a disgrace for both doom and the rock

[silverchode]

i expected more graphic wise.

[ape007]

yes

doom

come fast

I want originality like doom

ID FTW

[360rxorz]

When they say "Will look better than RAGE", they only mean that for the 360. The PS3 is not capable of anything better than the RAGE engine. :)

[Atomic]

the shocking news played with your mind , now your are just losing your sanity.

[silverchode]

bubbles for rxorz he learned to spell.

[Pain]

After learning the XBOX 2 'IS' a last gen console they try and put down PS3 once again to there crappy level.

I'm sorry Kid aka Xbox fan is your american ignorance hampering your ability to understand that one game is being held back the other most definitely will be less on XBOx 2 also?.... theres that XBox fan IQ for yea...

PS3 versions >>>> XBox 2 old-gen Versions.

Jealousy and Denial can be bad for u go see a doctor.

[SpecialSauce]

xbox 1.5

[kazuma]

lol who didn't put this on the ps3 section?

"By the the time that DOOM 4 ships to consoles, PC will be light years ahead of current consoles. In this case, the PC version will support significant visual improvements over 360 or PS3 versions."

[Atomic]

seriously , past 2010 , the 360 will go the way of the dodo.

[silverchode]

hunted down and eaten?

[Harry190]

I know my Dodos. Curse you bloody Dutchman,curse you.

[LightofDarkness]

I'm cautiously optimistic. Doom 3 wasn't terrible, but it was merely OK as a game. Stunning graphics, yes, but one of those important examples of how graphics can't make the game. However, if they get some sense and return to the style of the more ultra-violent "demons in space" theme of the original then we may have a winner on our hands. I don't need to be scared and poke around with my flashlight, I want to blast hell-hole loads of demons with my shotgun!

[solid-strife]

DOOM4?
To be honest, I never saw this on coming, I thought ROE was it, hmm, this should, how do you say? -SIIIICK-

[IaMs12]

For Whoever hasnt caught on it yet, they are basicly doing a remake of the series... DooM3 was DooM1, Mars the demons come out of the gates it all starts to go to hell as you fight your way to and from hell... Now they have DooM4 coming which come on Hell on Earth! which is going to be sweet IMO... DooM4 should be the last unless they continue with Final DooM series..

[juuken]

I hope this Doom can get me back in the series.
I did like Doom64. :3

[ape007]

you are right doom 64 was actually the best of all doom games

[TheColbertinator]

Doom 4 FTW!w000000000t

[Allowen]

I realy loved Doom 3 and its expansion packs....SOUL CUBE=#1 ultimate weapon in FPS history !!

D4 is on my top 5 most desired games to buy in 2009 !

[The Mikester]

Doom was one of the best games ever. This one will probable scare the sh1t out of me b/c with all the violence and surprises that the aliens do it freaks me out. And the adventure throughout the game will probable be one of the scariest adventures you'll ever go on.

[The Mikester]

All the other Doom games were fun and scared me half the time. So i can't wait for this game to come out and i'll invite some friends over for the night and play this game just to scare the sh1t out of them.

[The Mikester]

Doom 4 will be AWESOME!!!!!!!!!
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooot!!!!

[Zerodin]

"If he's saying Doom 4 will look better than Rage (he didn't actually say that BTW) then yeah they'll need to compress the 360 version EVEN MORE than what they're doing with Rage"
Second or third game to use the same engine is usually running on a refined version of the engine, which uses less resources, and uses them more effectively!

[Zerodin]

Last time I checked, the only thing Sony droids wanted anything to do with were games created by that master race they worship, you know...the one that lives in Japan!

[bumnut]

that is where doom belongs and the pc is already more powerfull then any current gen console.

[thereapersson]

I want old school gameplay like the original DooM, but put into a next-generation graphics and physics engine. I want to mow down hordes of enemies!

[n00bzRtehgey]

Doom 3 was such a masterful experience on a high end PC. Doom 4 is my most anticipated game for this millennia (on a new highend PC with 8 gigs of ram, of course. not on some garbage console like 360 or PS3 with half a gig of RAM total LOL)

ALL HAIL ID SOFTWARE! :)

[SL1M DADDY]

There are a ton of games I can't wait to play and now there are a ton + 1.

Can't wait to see what it looks like on the PS3.

[Shane Kim]

I don't care, Doom 3 sucked balls.

[Fishy Fingers]

Hope for quite a leap from Doom 3. Great graphics but rubbish everything else doesnt cut it for me.

[tatotiburon]

i have the strange feeling that sony fanboys will be piss off with this game...mmmmmmm

Well i can't wait for this game and i hope thet release original Doom in XBLA

[RadientFlux]

They already did release the original Doom on XBLA a few years back

[KRUSSIDULL]

Yeah they did what year do you live in?

[thereapersson]

First of all, you have no need to be making fanboyish comments like that, and second of all, if you're so up on things XBL you would know that DooM is already out on XBLA and has multiplayer.

Try again next time!

[jinn]

y isnt this franchise even dead?

[Daxx]

I'm probably going to get this for my PC so I can make mods. I might even make a Doom 4 machinima.

[cervantes99]

I have played every Doom game since the original in the early/mid 90s and I just recently went back and played Doom 3 on my 360 and I really enjoyed it. I especially liked the soul cube and the "use us ..." mantra when it was charged and ready to use. This sounded devilishly gratifying on a surround sound setup with the volume at a high level.

However, in my opinion, Doom64 was the very best version of Doom and was a big factor guiding me to buy a Wii. I was hoping for Doom64 to be released on Virtual Console - but alas so far I have been disappointed.

I am really looking forward to Doom 4 though.

[Allowen]

He did say that Doom4 looks better then Rage when he said that since D4 is too heavy it only runs at 30 fps when Rage can do 60fps since it is "lighter" then D4.

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

This guys a true developer and engineer.
Always setting the bar and cutting a path and pushing hardware to a new level.
evey game he has made for the FPS gen has ben amazing and here he goes again!!!

This guy pushes the Tech!!!!

[DFresh]

Doom 4 looks good.
It's another great multiplatform game on the way.
Expect this game somewhere in 2009.

[zozol]

hooray one of the most stupid games in history will come back again

[DevonTheDude535]

I thought it was Tech 4 not 5