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What are the hardest PC games?

Dark Souls got the most mentions, with 14% saying it was the hardest game they've ever played. It was followed by Dark Souls 2, which took in about 5% of the results. From there, though, the results are immediately diverse, with shooters, platformers, puzzle games, strategy games, and MOBAs all bunched together. When I cut out jokes, console games, games with specific caveats, and those that received only one or two mentions, I was still left with over 70 games. (Here's my curated list of the top 77.)

Tzuno3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

I don't find dark souls hard at game-play, i find it retard at navigation i mean where to go and what to do, no marker on the map just random shit, even with that i beat it.

darren_poolies3534d ago

It's not really hard to figure out where to go, I don't think anyway.

Roccetarius3534d ago

Something like Dark Souls takes some thought to beat for sure, and a new player may be confused for a while as to where to go,

Is it a hard game? Not at all, and the example below of not beating Killzone makes me worried if they're designing games for that in the future.

DragonKnight3534d ago

You need a map to tell you where to go? Lol, scrub.

No but seriously, the game actually points you in the direction of where to go. You just have to pay attention to the landscape.

Man, if you think Dark Souls is confusing, I'd wager you never played Demon's Souls.

TheRedButterfly3534d ago

Played both. Dark Souls was better in every way. Demon's Souls literally teleported you to where you needed to go, then you progressed through the (mostly) linear level. Dark Souls had the more difficult "level" progression.

darren_poolies3534d ago

I don't find either confusing really but Demon's Souls is way less confusing than Dark Souls. Demon's Souls had 'levels' basically so it was very easy to know where to go.

DragonKnight3534d ago

Dark Souls is not better in every way. Just because you have a semi-open world (Dark Souls was just as linear as Demon's Souls, it just didn't have a hub world) doesn't mean Dark Souls is objectively better. Dark Souls had the more difficult "level" progression? Really? How so?

And how many of you immediately knew what to do with the various shards?

Yui_Suzumiya3534d ago

I won't even touch Dark Souls. If I can't beat Killzone: Shadow Fall on Easy then I'm pretty sure I'd instantly fail at Dark Souls. I do actually plan on giving Bloodborne a try though.

DragonKnight3534d ago

"I won't even touch Dark Souls."

"I do actually plan on giving Bloodborne a try though."

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Yui_Suzumiya3534d ago

Well I had played Demon's Souls but didn't get too far. It's amazing I grew up on the NES.

darren_poolies3534d ago

You can't beat SF on easy?? Wat? I'd like to know what games you have beat then, if any haha.

Yui_Suzumiya3534d ago

Well I've been gaming for 25 years. And I'm just as surprised as you (also very embarrassed) because I absolutely love the Killzone Trilogy. It's one point in Shadow Fall where you're covering the woman and wave after wave of enemies come and you have to lock random doors with the owl. The part where you go outside to lock a door is when I eventually get blasted and die repeatedly. I've tried several things but it's always the owl that gets shot before finishing or I get shot. I can at least boast by saying Catherine and Bayonetta were easy for me yet alot found them difficult.

darren_poolies3534d ago

@SolidGear3

Oh right haha fair enough. That part is annoying and we've all had those bits we get stuck on and can't understand why we're having trouble. I honestly recommend you try Dark Souls and Bloodborne, neither of them are half as hard as people make them out to be and they are two of the best games you will ever play.

BG115793534d ago

We even have Minesweeper at 19th place among 77 games!!!

ISHU3534d ago

Dark souls took me almost 54 hours to beat. But every minute of it was worth it.

darren_poolies3534d ago

I think my firs today though took me about 80 but 30ish of those was me invading people and being a b*stard basically haha.

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Star Wars Jedi Games Now on Amazon Luna in New EA Cloud Gaming Deal

Star Wars Jedi: Survivor & Fallen Order are now playable on Amazon Luna thanks to a new multi-year deal with EA. Cloud gaming just leveled up.

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IanTH27d ago

Sadly just if you subscribe to Luna it appears. I hooked my EA account into it, which has Jedi Survivor, and it doesn't show in my Library. They don't show as a source either, so just a heads up to not let your purchasing decision be swayed as to where you pick the titles up if a bonus streaming option held any interest.

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50 Best PS3 Games of All Time

The PlayStation 3 is Sony’s most interesting home console ever, but what’s most interesting of all is trying to nail down the very best games on a console with hundreds of incredible games. Let’s give it a shot.

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darthv7253d ago

Personally, I'd rank Pacific Rift in my top 10. It's the best of the series.

badz14953d ago

We desperately need Motorstorm back. Evolution is no more though and this makes me sad

Cacabunga53d ago

Sly Thieves in Time
Stay the Party
Portal 2
Dj Hero
Demon’s Souls
God of war Ascension

rudero52d ago

2 of those games got railed through the “gaming media” during release.
Sly and god of war.
Both of which were fantastic games.

Cacabunga52d ago

Ascension is VERY underrated. Remake please!

Venoxn4g53d ago

Decent list.. I would put the Castle Crashers as well..

1Victor53d ago

Yes it’s a decent list of popular games with a heavy hand on FPS and no Warhawk or Starhawk 2 of the best games (not sale wise) on ps3.
I would buy a Starhawk again even if it didn’t have a graphics upgrade hell I would even take a new one with micro transactions 😱🤯

Profchaos53d ago

I've noticed a recent nostalgia for the PS3 and I don't get it for me it's been my least favourite generation to date and I've been gaming since the NES I just feel like the ambition of the developers outweighed the capabilities of the consoles so I remember lots of games running in the lower end of 20fps range and I remember for the first time ever actually disliking the duelshock 3 and it's curved triggers

Sure there were some standouts and great games but that's the only gen I switched entirely to PC gaming

darthv7253d ago

Maybe the recent nostalgia is because pretty much all of its games are trapped on that console. People want to play them on more modern hardware. hell... if XB can do it then so can Sony. there are competent emulators out there that can run on PS4/5 hardware but Sony just wont let them become official... why is that?

If we are talking least favorite generations (personally) then this one is certainly mine. i had more fun playing 8th, 7th and 6th gen stuff than 9th. And it isnt like i dont have access to do so... the heavy hitters just havent shown up anywhere close to those previous gens. The few here and there just doesnt cut it compared to the likes of constant good games that showed up in 6th, 7th and 8th gen. hell.... I'll even throw in 5th gen has been better than this one.

Profchaos53d ago

I tend to agree there's lots of amazing games locked to the PS3 like GTA IV or mgs 4 but then again my issue was never with the content the PS3 had but rather it's performance many other people have said the PS3 felt like it couldn't walk and chew bubblegum at the same time using PSN and downloading a game could take a few minutes to just start a download.

I typically don't worry all that much about performance I've never had a problem with games that run at 30 but games like crysis 2, Skyrim are good examples where the performance was so unstable you would never even touch the top of the frame cap and the hitching was worse than say Goldeneye on the n64

I think emulation is more than possible on the ps5 though it's just that Sony has no incentive to rush it's development it will likely be a ps6 feature if it ever happens at all.

But yeah the 9th gen has been so bad from a content perspective thats a given I see constant articles where people are frequently expressing their disappointment around the industry as a whole right now to much live service competition that sinks longstanding studios and consumes Devs time less ambition and games cost so much to make they have to play it safe.

The 5th gen was easily better than the 9th we had some all time greats crash, Spyro, Tony hawk, mgs, Mario,64, Goldeneye, Mario kart 64 the list goes on. The 5th gave us a new dimension and I remember being blown away by how much more open gaming had become the 4th gen with the mega drive and SNES was great and very easy to still revisit some of the greatest games of all time came out like earthbound, secret of mana, sonic , Mario world etc but saving our games was still not a standard function or a given so gaming was still evolving but it was very impressive to see some of the tricks Devs used like dithering to give us new experiences those earlier gens limitations bred innovation.

Michiel198952d ago

if XB can do it so can sony? I didn't know xbox had a cell processor in their older consoles, that's the reason why ps3 was so cool, but also the reason why games are hostage there and no, xbox did nothing similar even though their backward compatbility is good, they always had a similar architecture to their consoles.

darthv7252d ago

Sorry Michael... I guess you missed the obvious part where i said there are already emulators out that do this. and that is what XB is doing... emulators for OG and 360 games. Its why the full slate is not BC on XBO/Series.

coolbeans52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

The list is missing Folklore.

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FromSoftware didn’t want Sony to publish Dark Souls due to how Demon’s Souls was treated

Former SIE president Yoshida explained that Sony wanted to work on the sequel to Demon’s Souls with FromSoftware, but the developer turned it down and instead decided to work with Bandai Namco on what would become Dark Souls.

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Luc2064d ago

Not sure what Sony was thinking. Wrong people testing the game. It was my favourite game from the PS3 days. Had to import it from Canada because it wasn't available in Europe at the time. Then I bought it again when a local version was available. It was fun to play online and get two separate platinum.

Cacabunga64d ago

I understand, sony acting so cocky when it came out. But they quickly realized what they were missing on. I remember an interview of Yoshida saying clearly he hated the game.

SDuck64d ago

"But they quickly realized what they were missing on."
So they've been sleeping on Bloodborne too

RaiderNation64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Sony didn't realize what they had with Demons Souls. It happens. Marvel approached Xbox to make Spider-Man before they went to Sony and Phil Spencer said "thanks but no thanks". You win some, you lose some. Personally I wasn't THAT bowled over by Demons Souls either when it launched on PS3. I thought it was slow and clunky. The remake on PS5, however, is fantastic! So I get why Sony was lukewarm on the franchise. I dont know if anybody could've foreseen what From Software would eventually become.

Palitera64d ago

To be fair, not even From Software knew the huge success it would become. Their revenue target was tiny, as already confirmed by Miyazaki.

LoveSpuds63d ago (Edited 63d ago )

Exactly, these nipple head 'journalists' trying to spin this into a story to wield against Sony are ignoring the fact that hindsight is 20/20.

As you correctly point out, Demons Souls was incredibly niche at the time so it's not a surprise that Sony were cautious about investing huge amounts into advertising and support etc.

Pyrofire9563d ago

You can't just find the RIGHT people. This kind of thing didn't exist yet. FROMSOFTWARE started something huge and you could never see it unless you happen to get someone who not only gets a gut instinct but also the will and authority to act on it. You can't look back from 2025, you have to see it in a 2009 landscape. And Demon's Souls didn't even hit big, it wasn't until Dark Souls that it all started hitting, shortly after it's release in 2011.

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GamingSinceForever64d ago

Hey sometimes you just can’t see the potential.

It’s like the Chicago Bears moving up in the draft to take Trubisky over Pat Mahomes.

Pyrofire9563d ago

I don't know one ounce of these sports teams, but yes, exactly like that.

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jznrpg64d ago

I bought the Japanese version of Demons Souls before US release. Me and my friend heard about it from an online friend in Japan. It took a while for it to become popular in the US. It was a new IP with nothing like it at the time and it wasn’t easy to play obviously. Eventually word of mouth spread about it and sales picked up after launch. I don’t think anyone could have seen how big it would be at the time. It was considered very niche and hardcore games were minimal.

Scissorman64d ago

I do wonder if we'll ever see Demon's Souls 2. Sony clearly wanted it. FromSoftware's subsequent releases penetrated the mainstream in ways the developer likely never imagined. Any stigma or negative perception around the original game's release has long passed. Bluepoint's remake sold very well on PS5. I think the time has come to visit the IP that started it all.

ocelot0764d ago

With Sony now firmly in bed with Kadokawa now. I think a Demon's Souls 2 and/or Bloodborne 2 is fairly likely.

Pyrofire9563d ago

They also seem to not want to get on Fromsoft's bad side or undercut them in any way. I think it's completely up to FS. (which is kinda funny cause FS themselves makes weird moves with their games whenever it's not Miyazaki helming the project. ie DS2 and Nightreign)

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