Dave Jones from Reagent Games details some of the game's features.
Azure is going to be a 20 billion $ business in 3 years. Thats almost the size of the entire Sony corporation market cap just to put it in perspective. Can't wait to see what future applications to gaming this will have on Xbox One!
at 1m13 seconds of the video,surely that cant be the actual game? the draw distance looks way to good and clear. be amazing if it is and i so want this game but everything sounds and looks a little to good to be true
The only bad part is that crackdown sucks. All this focus on crackdown.......
It's truly glorious/pathetic to see Sony fanboys try to downplay the undownplayable.
Well they better get ready because azure plus direct 12 is gonna make heads roll.
Just not quite as glorious/pathetic as it is to see Xbox fanboys try to upplay a tech demo that hast yet been proven in an actual at home game environment yet. I'm sure that sounded trollish but I figured the only way to respond to a troll comment was with a troll comment so you would understand.
I agree. Why do we all have to get so upset about this? Gamers should be happy that a game looks awesome. Especially one as beloved as the crackdown series. Thing is I don't own an Xbox one right now so I can't join in the fun. Doesn't mean I shouldn't acknowledge that this whole cloud based physics stuff looks awesome.
Its sad to see Microsoft has sooooooo much more money than sony but has such a weaker platform, and maybe Microsoft wouldn't have so much money if they were in as many sectors as sony, I mean Microsoft should have so much money from 3 gaming generations of charging people to play online; then having to use a sony tech (blueray) to even try and compete with sony.
Butt hurt much? Why are you on an xbox article if you love your playstaion so munch? Cuz your PlayStation can't do this... Troll else where
GamingTruth is like 13 years old, there's no point in arguing with him.
You do know blueray would not work if Microsoft didn't help with coding right.
are you 10 or something?
Man genuine, you have bee putting in your overtime for damage control lol.
Just because Ps4 is stronger console hardware wise doesn't mean it can do what it weaker brother xbox one can do for example, Last gen PS3 was the powerful console but it couldn't some of the simple features xbox 360 can do like party chat and even custom sound track .
Its gonna be a long way to crackdown 3 at this point. People keep on flipping positions on this website. "Oh no its not possible" "Well now it is" "its red faction" "Probably cgi" "huge connection" "anyone can do this" I dont think people realize there setting themselves up with this stuff. Its like super saiyan 4 level of damage control and they haven't even shown the full multiplayer yet. I dont think people have let that sink in.
Right, they havent even shown a single mode in mp lol. This damage control is REAL. Just look at genuine user lol. Hes in every article lol
Yeah some of his buddies have not shown face yet.
Here's what I don't get: All this time, the debate has been about making the XB1 more powerful through cloud computing. And all this time, Microsoft has failed to show that this was possible outside a controlled environment. If it WERE possible in any capacity, it'd be limited; that's what's been argued this whole time. Now that they've finally shown SOMETHING, the debate is settled... only it isn't, because what they've shown is EXACTLY what the "naysayers" have been saying all along. What is being done in Crackdown is on an unprecedented scale. But it's not unprecedented. And it's not impossible elsewhere. When people bring up examples, it's senseless to disregard them just because they're not EXACTLY the same; the point is to highlight that similar things have been done already, or how the concept is possible on things other than the XB1. But some of the XB1 fans around here are SO eager to finally have what they see as a "win" that they can't acknowledge that, yes, this tech is built on the backs of previous advancements, and yes, we've seen something similar- if not as extensive- in other titles. All that matters is "See? Cloud is possible!" By all means, be glad it's so impressive. But the close-minded ridiculousness that has followed the announcement is asinine on a major scale, too.
Your comment literally made absolutely NO SENSE. If I recall you were one of the biggest picket sign holders on N4G yelling that this type of tech was impossible to do on consoles. Now you are in full spin mode to a point to where every excuse makes no sense at all. They showed SOMETHING way back during the demo where you and others closed your eyes and ears and yelled "IT CAN'T BE DONE". You were on the frontline yelling(regurgitating) that today's internet connections couldn't handle this type of tech. You made every excuse to downplay what MS was showing. Now it's hilarious to see Sony fans LIKE YOU say that this type of tech can all of sudden be magically done because it was done before and it's nothing new. The hypocrisy is outstanding with you. It went from CANT BE DONE to IT WAS DONE BEFORE. How quickly the lot of you remember past games that had similar type of destruction when MS shows theirs on a larger more impressive scale. And you want to put things down like "close-minded ridiculousness"? It's amazing the lengths you will go through to make sure that NO Xbox fan can enjoy anything that MS has in store for them. But then get steaming mad and call others trolls when they're in Sony articles leaving their opinions that don't align with yours.
lol Well said maniac, well said.
Hey Spotie, I'm beaming you down!
The problem is you sony boys say it cannot be done but Microsoft just showed what can be done and you all still not convinced.
"What is being done in Crackdown is on an unprecedented scale. But it's not unprecedented. And it's not impossible elsewhere " Links please
@maniamayhem I see you've only got two bubble maniamayhem but you've used them wisely on this thread.
@Maniac Well said. Very well said. Bubs up.
Haha wow, what a silly post. This sentiment here sums up the changing of goalposts by the haters and the sheer insecurity after Crackdown's demo. The absolutely laughable excuses are as follows: 1. Its been done before- look at Red Faction! -_-' Yeah that desolate planet with physics that clips through itseld is the same as LEVELLING A WHOLE CITY. Someone even mentioned Uncharted 2! What?? 2. Its just a demo, let's wait (and desperately pray to whatever diety we worship that this doesn't work). Yes we know its a demo but why on earth can we not assume it will work when we have things like 2-4mb bandwith requirements being given etc? 3. But Sony can do it too! Hold up a sec...make your mind up. At first you lot told us that it wasn't possible. Then you lot are saying it is possible and Sony can do it too? What? Okay, tell us when Sony has talked about this tech? Heck if Sony had said it was possible you lot would be championing the Power of the Cloud and the gifs and memes would be about how Greatness Awaits. You know, I expected a few Sony die hards to at least have the decency to put their hands up and say, yup, looks like we were wrong in dismissing this and if it works in the home environment then thats amazing and the power of the cloud is impressive. But of course, people like you either went into hiding for a few days when this was shown or others haven't popped up at all after how vocal they were for ages. If you guys don't have humility or even scruples to admit when you're wrong that's your problem. But Im going to keep calling you lot out for it.
It would much easier and less expensive to build a more powerfull console for this gen The lack of raw power (1.30 teraflops)is the real problem that the cloud tech is trying to overcame on the xbox one. If Microsoft built a 500 console machine without kinect from the start it would completely destroy the PS4 specs wise, because the 100 diference would allow to put a much stronger GPU and CPU. Like the crap of rez «news», so tired of 900p/1080p, that only a couple o thousands talk, in millions of gamers. Thats why it doenst have any impact. Casual gamers, that are millions, dont care about rez, cloud, cell, DX12, they play games. All of this are just for the hardcore. A small group with almos no impact sales wise... overhyping something not tested on millions of players worldwide...And again this wont change nothing in trend of this gen.
Dude...what microsoft is doing isnt even possible in realtime on high end pcs with 980s and titans. So please tell me...like prove to me how investing in more shaders that mimic ps4 lets them have 100 percent physical destruction in a city? Such a bizarre statement.
There seems to be a common misconception that this tech is going to be massivly taxing on Azure as every Xbox One will suddenly have access to 20x computational power. Think about that for a second, say there's 16 players in a game... the 20x computational ability is only processing the data once and this same processed data is sent to all 16 users. No match is going to be able to hit 100% capacity, never mind 100% of the time (in the demo it took quite a while to build up 12x the computation power with overpowered weapons and carefully pre-planted explosives). That's why they keep referring to 'scalablity'. TL;DR - It's actually much more efficient to do the computation once, and send it to all end users, than to have all devices do the computation individually.
also that azure was built for xbox.. Azure is built for office, skype, skydrive and anyone that wants to use their services.. im actually pretty sure n4g is hosted on azure (thier ddos protection screen mentioned azure anyways) its a multi-billion dollar service with a multitide of uses besides xbox.. xbox games just get the benefits because Microsoft already owns and operates the service, this is just allowing another of their products to leverage their massive investment
No it wouldnt, it would be more expensive to buy a high end pc to do half of what the servers were doing
And? Why is it so hard for people to accept what they showed? I don't believe that the cloud can increase the systems power by 20x but I know what I saw. And that's utilising the cloud to calculate an incredible level of physics provided that a delay of a few frames is acceptable. Anyways I'm curious to see how this technology will perform from peoples homes. That's the real test that Microsoft has to pass. Not saying it isn't possible because they have a robust cloud network but it won't be easy to pull off. Off Topic: Just upgraded to Windows 10. Yey :)
I knew Genuine User would be here, just waitking for Gamenamefame.
Next gen is here, now I see why MS wanted an always online console. Looking back xbox was pushing gaming into the future but we weren't ready yet, until there's country wide free wifi (like Obama wanted) majority of gamers won't buy in. Put the console war a side and look at this amazing tech. One day we'll look back and see this as the start of a new age of gaming. It does get you thinking, maybe the 24hr drm check in wasn't so bad. Xbox nor my internet has never been down for more than a few hours.
I don't believe the check in was what people didn't like the most about the policy's. The main complaint was about how the system controlled retail titles. Anyways Microsoft should have had a demo showing this technology at the unveiling of the X1. If they did that then it would have been easier to convince the public to accept a DRM system. As for this being the start of next gen. Next gen already started when the PS4 and XB1 came out.
Thats what I said when this whole DRM fiasco started...but I disagree "we" were not ready yet, even in 2013 most people who can afford a console had internet capable of the 2-4mbs minimum Cracdown 3 is being optimized for. btw this is not a government service or something *everybody has to have fair access to. If folks dont have internet then dont buy it....I dont think the sales would be any different today but Iam 100% sure Microsoft would have most 1st party games using this tech in some form or another. Whats worst is those who complain most about micros direction preferred the other console. Ironically here I sit with an all digital library and saved alot more money game sharing than I ever did on *used games. Theres no way in hell anybody can convince me the "always online" plan would have been bad for me...sort of like all the "kinect spying on you" BS, literally not 1 case since launch, just like I said it was all hatred driven. This is why Xbox fans need to speak out more about their preferred console, let Microsoft know if you wanted them to "be more like sony", or make more SP only games like sony, or generally do things like sony does then you would just buy a ps4. No, No, hell yeah you can have great games without owning a ton of studios, you can make amazing always online console, you can expand next gen with cloud gaming, blaze your own path, thats what got Halo and console popular when folks said it wont work on consoles. Now other consoles toave improved their online because of XboxLive, I want a different experience and I garuantee if microsoft went all in on their vision they would be MORE successful.
everyone's arguing about if ps4 can do this but the simple fact is microsoft are doing it NOW and until ps4 do it there's no point arguing
EXACTLY...no one is saying MS has a lockdown on the theory of doing this...just that they are the only ones with the ability to do it right now...and if they aren't....then we need to ask, why are the other companies screwing their fans over? Bottom line, PSn doesn't have the resources to do this...the vast majority of their dedicated servers are tied up in PS Now, and those that remain are used for log ins and just simple matchmaking servers (not ACTUAL dedicated servers...in fact there hasn't been a single game on PS4 that Sony has provided actual dedicated servers for). Unless Sony has kept secret some massive expansion in their servers, they STILL have less dedicated servers than OLD XBL...which had 15,000...new XBL has 300,000 servers dedicated to it WHEN IT LAUNCHED in 2013. To put this in perspective that those kinds of people have to understand....if everyone is supposed to just accept that PS4 has a more powerful GPU and that means that PS4 will do 1080p more often than X1...then we all also have to accept that MS/X1 has a MUCH MUCH MUCH more powerful network that is able to provide 20 times the processing power of a single console. It goes both ways.... X1 has a much greater chance of doing 1080p for EVERY game than PS4 does of having cloud processing integration. FACT.
"Unless Sony has kept secret some massive expansion in their servers, they STILL have less dedicated servers than OLD XBL...which had 15,000...new XBL has 300,000 servers dedicated to it WHEN IT LAUNCHED in 2013." "X1 has a much greater chance of doing 1080p for EVERY game than PS4 does of having cloud processing integration. FACT." ^^This. At the end of the day. it requires a lot more servers than sony has to provide something like what Ms doing..and then to every single PS console that would play such a game? I know the PS4 is doing well but sony as a company is not. The servers it has needs to cater to PS4, PS3, vita and PSNow. And from the looks of things any further investment in more servers will be for PSNow. But it is funny seeing the shift in rhetoric. Two weeks a go it was a MS pipedream, now they say its been around since the 70s apparently.And that it basicalluy IS the internet... and something about red faction. But I dont really see the comparison outside of the fact that its destruction in a game. they may as well mention Battlefield, then. But it doesnt change the fact that this is being done a FAR larger scale. What part of 20 times the computational power of a single xbox one is hard to understand? They understood numbers just fine when comparing screen resolutions and "30% more GPU" to a single xbox, over a week ago.
@FlexLuger below...you hit the nail on the head. Last week...it's "dapowerzofdacloudz" and it couldn't be done because it's stupid and networks can't handle it. Now MS has found a way to up the processing power of an X1 up to 20x's using 2-4 Mbps ...and now it's "oh well, anyone can do that"....watch out for moving goal posts....no one is fooled here that it's just scared defense force words.
Crackdown 3 Vs Red Faction: Armageddon - Destruction Comparison
If this were crackdown three though, even the rocks would be destructable. Red faction is pretty linear too. aside from that Here is a better video. ONe that is voiced by an expert on the matter as opposed to just another gamer voicing his opinion on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
I think the problem is...some are not understanding what they are doing with crackdown 3. That's why you see them comparing it to red faction. What crackdown is doing blows away anything that red faction did ( a solid game btw)
Lmao this seems to be a trend with those in denial. Red faction has nowhere near the same destruction we are talking skyscrapers and whole cities with real time physics that are on a much much bigger scale. Not even close so funny u think these are the same lol
I absolutely loved the first Crackdown....this game seems like it's gonna be amazing...I can't wait to play it. Hell I can't wait to play the BETA
What's the point of 100% destruction if the game itself looks subpar in every possible way, I just don't get it. It's like saying look at our average looking boring game, but don't worry, explosions are pretty and powered by the cloud.
You get to use an a-salt-rifle to destroy buildings. I'm sure you have one of those :)
see this is where PS4 gamers fail graphics are not everything and the game looks great btw. The order 1886 looked great but game play and story was crap. Drive club looked good gameplay sucks if you play a real racer you know controls on Drive club are trash. This is a leap forward in gaming and all u guys have to say is negative towards the cloud yet u guys call urself gamers how so when u hate on innovations smh.
What happens when cloud xbl your sip etc goes down
Then you just play the single player...like EVERY other MP game out there.
When they first showed the video of the building being destroyed, I knew there was going to be a lot of angry keyboard mashing going on. Cloud Compute is real, and until anyone proves otherwise, the technology is exclusive to MS. Cloud Compute is the new 1080p and all the pixels in the world won't change that.
First Secret sauce, then extra chips, then hidden CPU speed, then gpu tweak, then cloud compute, then azure powered...... When will the list stop....
Oh Father... How goes the Crusade? I told you this game would knock your Catholic socks off... Yet here you are, acting the fool. The power of the cloud compels you!
Sony and Nintendo have Cloud storage space, thats it. They dont have a platform like Azure and they cant afford one (well maybe Nintendo, on a smaller scale). Sony boys spewing hate wont change anything. Get over it, MS is the one "pushing" this generation. New SDK's, vast system improvements, AAA Exclusives coming in droves, DX12, Cloud compute, Windows 10 device streaming and more. Yeah if I was a Sony fanboy I would be spewing hate too. Your beloved company sells nothing but hype, exclusives that are light years off and 1 good exclusive currently on the shelf (Bloodbourne). Yeah, I would be spewing hate too. Sony has nothing for the rest of this year, no new tech unless Morpheus ever sees a release date, UC4 which will come out next summer and thats about it. MS is kicking Sony's butt where it counts, gamers. Be happy you bought into the hype but personally I am glad I sold it and kept my X1.
and yet microsofts multi billion dollar tech that sony and Nintendo cant afford still wont get the xbox one to produce uncharted 4 or horizon graphics ingame
Quantum Break & Ryse would like a word with you.
Quantum break looks better than horizon and uncharted put together. Gameplay Is key though and that's where Quantum comes out on top. Not saying that uncharted won't have good gameplay, that's actually the next ps4 game I'll buy. Horizon on the other hand looked terrible imo.
I'm really getting tired of people always talking graphics. I want more then prettier graphics. I want to be wowed by something that hasnt been done before. I at the poit I know most modern gaes are goig to look great. I want games that are pushing boundaries in other areas besides more pixels. I look at things like Forza drivatars as exciting... Crackdown 3 I'm very intrigued with the possibilities and what we will see down the line.
If the game utilizes the cloud it can handle any graphics the ps4 throws at it plus some... Troll else where
Can't little big planet be fully destructive if you build it that way?
everyone made their jokes about the power of zhee cloud and asked for proof. finally ms shows something and they are all like well they aren't the only one doing this sony is doing it too.
That vertigo the first time i played crackdown was awesome getting that light feeling in the gut when you jumped off a building to get a orb , very keen to get my hands on it.
Cloud computing in gaming is a gimmick that will not have any meaningful impact until 20 years from on. The actual internet infrastructure is simply not suited for it. MS made a demo with Crackdown 3 using 11 LOCAL servers in a doctored environment for a multiplayer session consisting of...4 players. Cool. What happens now with hundred thousands of player and having to deal with real Internet bandwith and latency ?
I suggest you let the people who understand this tech and are figuring out answers worry about the "what if" stuff because obviously they are smarter than you or I on this topic. CD3 Footage is incredible and easily makes X1 the most powerful console ever once connected. I'm looking forward to what Sony shows at TGS and other venues but feel no matter how pretty the games are that CD3 is the first true next gen game. Just hoping that once everything becomes a reality in my living space that ps4 doesn't hold back X1 in the near future.
Stop trolling smh
Thank you Mr. Jones for delivering a true sequel to one of my favorite franchises ever. The game has that classic Crackdown 1 look and the gangs are back. It has a single player offline campaign with a 4 player co op option as well. The online mode looks insane. THIS is what I have been praying for as the sequel to Crackdown. The wait for this is going to slowly cause me to go even more nuts than I already am. Will be camping outside the store the nite before this game comes out unless they do a midnight launch then I will be there firing up a Crackdown Party myself and seeing if there are any other 'Cracked Up' Fanatics like me to help stir up some pre game craziness!!!! Good times ahead for sure!!!!