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The verdict is in on Windows 10 gaming performance, compatibility

PCgamer:

"Windows 10 is out, and at least 18 million people have already upgraded to Microsoft’s new OS. The launch chaos has subsided. If you’re still waiting for the upgrade option to appear in your system tray, click here to learn how to install now. But you should know what you’re getting out of Windows 10, particularly when it comes to gaming."

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3603d ago

That was a very interesting article. Some people won't like what has to say...

Erik73573603d ago (Edited 3603d ago )

3 fps increase omgggggggggggggggggggggggggggg pc gaming will never be the same!

Ulf3603d ago

...with absolutely no change in hardware, and DX12 still down the road, I'd say that's nothing but awesome.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3603d ago

@Ulf

"with absolutely no change in hardware, and DX12 still down the road, I'd say that's nothing but awesome."

DX12 is included with the Windows 10 Operating System

Grap3603d ago

@IGiveHugs2NakedWomen
but no games support DX12 now.
educate yourself please don't spread your Ignorance.
3fps increase only because of OS is pure awesomeness.

Eonjay3603d ago

@Grap
Perhaps then, windows 10... with dx12 should have launched with something that takes full advantage of it. I think that would be fair to ask.

When do you think we will see true DX12 games. I think Fable will be the first one. Perhaps that was reason to make it free to play.

RobLoPR3603d ago

You see... holiday is coming and Fable Legends will be the best promo for Windows 10, Xbox One and Dx12. I also believe that there are other games being worked on... but I dont see multiplats taking advantage of this... only first party games coming out of Microsoft Studios.

Pixelart3603d ago

Lol I can smell the fear

3fps is 10% in console 30 fps land!

In any event. There are no DX12 games on PC yet. Wait for them.

donthate3602d ago

Windows has been optimized for gaming for years, so squeezing anything extra out of it is amazing.

That said, the major increases will start to arrive with DX12 and major game developers are already talking about switching over completely to DX12 as a requirement.

If you don't, your competitors game will be very far ahead of you.

hoju693602d ago (Edited 3602d ago )

As someone who skipped Windows 8 and 8.1, Windows 10 has a significant performance increase from Windows 7. I got about a 10-15 fps boost in The Witcher 3.

BeefCurtains3602d ago

Ummm, was any real PC gamer counting on windows 10 to change their gaming experience? I don't rely on my OS for that, I rely on my GPU...

But way to "burn" PC gamers with your comment. S/

UltimateMaster3602d ago (Edited 3602d ago )

3fps isn't a significant difference.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Know where to invest your money.

starchild3602d ago (Edited 3602d ago )

Every little bit helps. And that's just from an OS change. People overclock their graphics cards for just a few more frames per second in some cases.

Obviously your graphics card has by far the biggest impact on your fps, but other components such as your processor, memory, hard drive/SSDs, PCIe bandwidth, OS, API, graphics drivers, etc can all impact the consistency and/or speed of frame delivery. It all adds up.

GameNameFame3602d ago

What fear?

This Dx12 only affects PC... and people who are playing on console never cared what performances are on PC to begin with.

With DX12 update, PC will have optimization like consoles. I say great, but dont really affect console gamers.

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Rookie_Monster3603d ago (Edited 3603d ago )

So Batman 5FPS increased from 118fps to 123FPS didn't entertain you? LOL

The real advantage will be when games start taking advantage of DX12 from the grounds up and using it, then we will see Windows 10 magic comes to fruition. No surprise with current DX11 or patched DX12 games not having any drastic differences between 10 and 8.

Eonjay3603d ago (Edited 3603d ago )

Trust me 123 fps over 118 FPS wont entertain anyone becase no normal person will not be able to see the difference.

Rookie_Monster3603d ago (Edited 3603d ago )

@Eonjay,

"Trust me 123 fps over 118 FPS wont entertain anyone becase no normal person will not be able to see the difference."

Hmm, that was sarcasm when I said it. LOL

That is why I am referencing games won't see a huge difference until DX12.

camel_toad3603d ago (Edited 3603d ago )

After seeing an overall sameness in regards to framerates in test reviews I went ahead and upgraded yesterday. Its nice to just have something new especially since I stayed with windows 7 after 8 came out and so far the jump to 10 has been pain-free and Im enjoying the new features.

Cant wait to see what dx12 brings to games given the previews of performance gains.

Lon3wolf3603d ago

Nothing has been released that fully utilizes DX12 yet, Win 10 still uses DX11 for DX11 games (like Win 7 used DX9 + DX10 for those games even though 7 was DX11), of course it will take time to see the gains, not much different in watching consoles get updates to improve performance etc. over time.

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christian hour3602d ago (Edited 3602d ago )

I wonder how many of those 18 million upgraders are aware they just signed over their privacy rights and email and private folder content to Microsoft?

They're already facing a huge lawsuit from Digital Rights Ireland who are currently building up a case (we have AWESOME digital rights here, for example a lot of facebooks more invasive features are no longer present on the site when logging in from Ireland), will be an interesting few weeks/months/years? ahead :)

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Dasteru3602d ago

You do not sign over anything. They collect the same information that they have been collecting for years. The same stuff that everyone else including Google, Facebook, Steam, etc, also collect. All of it can be prevented in the system settings also. It is not mandatory.

If you are still paranoid about it you can encrypt the OS drive also and then even if MS takes any files, they will not be able to do shit with it.

Peerblock & Veracrypt are a PC users best friends. Use them properly and not even the NSA will have a chance in hell of getting in.

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yuukiliu3603d ago

I cant use my trackpad, so...so far it sucks.

SniperControl3603d ago

Cant use my Oculus Rift as well, which is really stupid as MS and Oculus have a partnership.

l33t_haxx0r3603d ago

You mean the DS4 trackpad? or your laptop trackpad? :D

yuukiliu3602d ago

My laptop trackpad. It just won't work. I managed to get it so I can move the mouse, but I can't click on anything. Incredibly frustrating. Yes, my usb mouse works, but I never use my laptop on a desk or for gaming so I just want to use the built in trackpad.

badz1493603d ago

upgraded from 8.1 to 10 on my laptop. I have few games installed as the laptop is still pretty new and I don't like gaming on a small screen but I tested with LEGO Marvel but man...does it suck!! the game crawls like a turtle!

dantesparda3603d ago (Edited 3603d ago )

I can use my touchpad, but now i have to use 2 fingers to scroll the pages instead of one and i HATE THAT! Not to mention I've lost functionality. I am also having all sorts of issues with my graphics card drivers and i find the OS to be buggy as hell. I would advice people who aren't into this sh't to wait til all the bugs are worked out. Heck, i even had my sound and battery icon disappearing before i did fresh install. I had more functionality when i just did the upgrade then i did after i did the fresh install but its was buggier then than after the clean install, but its still buggy. Windows Update fails to update all the time and cant even be disabled. Heck even the ISO/image I download to do a fresh install with failed, it kept giving me a error message at mid install and i had to redownload it again just to make it work. But mind you, i couldnt get the Media Creation tool to work on a W7 machine so instead i had to do it on a already upgraded W10 system to do it. So be careful, if you do not know what you are doing then you could be in for a fun time.

If you like Windows 7 better than 8/8.1 than be hesitant upgrading to 10.

FragMnTagM3602d ago

try downloading the driver for it. I had a similar problem. But I used the driver tool on advanced system care and now it works.

sinspirit3602d ago

I can't use some of my laptops hotkeys. Which one of them disables my trackpad for when I use my mouse.

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SouljAx3603603d ago

Of course there's no difference. It's the same games, on what's pretty much the same OS. I like 10 more than 8.1 or 7, but what's under the hood isn't much different from 8.1. Once there are some Directx 12 games to test out, that's when you'll see any real improvements.

Father__Merrin3603d ago

Lol even PC fans saying "just wait till" lol

I predict dx12 games to be not much better than dx11

xTheMercenary_3603d ago

Oh how wrong you are. Better start researching the potential pc can receive going from DX11 to DX12.

Eonjay3603d ago (Edited 3603d ago )

Well temper your expectations with what is known. DX12 has new graphical features, but the biggest improvements will be to cpu overhead and multithreading. This means more frames per second.
On high end builds DX11's biggest problem seemed to be that it made CPU's a rigs bottleneck.

xTheMercenary_3603d ago

@Eonjay You are absolutely correct, the main difference going from DX11 to DX12 is definitely the cpu overhead, with DX12 the gpu can now work with all cores of the cpu simultaneously whereas before one core was used at a time. Therefore, performance will increase quite a bit.

Lon3wolf3603d ago

If you mean not much better as in gameplay wise then you are correct but if you mean not much better in using resources more efficiently, then you are really wrong.

Lon3wolf3603d ago

I have lost my sound card (X-Fi /titanium) until Creative release drivers, no biggy back to on-board for now. Of course a whole new OS will take time to settle and improvements be made would be silly to think otherwise.

Lon3wolf3603d ago

Thanks, already tried the fixed unofficial drivers didn't play nice at all for me (glad someone is trying to get it sorted though as Creative are so bloody slow), hence had to go back to on-board for now.

Dasteru3603d ago

Luckily my Xonar D1 is working perfectly.

Lon3wolf3603d ago

Nice, biggest issue with x-fi is that you need the control panels working to choose Mic input as it's default is line in which you can't seem to change without the control panel, also I kept losing sound or it would just revert to 2.1 on its own (I always uncheck the allow apps exclusive control on my sound devices too). Xonar have always seemed to have better support from what I hear :D

RobLoPR3603d ago

Thumbs up to you... i come from the Atari age so I am very patient and understanding when it comes to technology... see when I was young we didnt have any of this.. so yes with tech pagience is a virtue you have my friend.

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Microsoft is bringing its Xbox Auto HDR feature to Windows

A new test version of Windows 10 also includes new File Explorer changes.

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XxINFERNUSxX1554d ago (Edited 1554d ago )

Most PC gamers right now do not have HDR monitors. "as long as you have a compatible HDR monitor" I'm using a 240hz Alienware 1080p GSYNC panel, (AW2518H) while I love it and love the high FPS in games, I'm not buying a new lcd just yet. So for now I just use reshade in all the games I play and enable "fake HDR" 😁 It's pretty good to, not real HDR but close enough for me. 👍

darthv721554d ago

If someone doesnt have an HDR PC monitor, can't they use a HDR supported tv? Most PC cards support HDMI out so I would think that could be one option. It might not have the uber high refresh but I'm sure it could work.

XxINFERNUSxX1554d ago (Edited 1554d ago )

Yeah the HDR TV will work over HDMI. I'm using displayport myself but if your just using that connection you can just use a displayport to hdmi adapter since displayport carries audio just like HDMI.

XbladeTeddy1554d ago

"Most PC gamers right now do not have HDR monitors."

Your point? Nothing wrong with Microsoft impementing this. Once you do get a HDR monitor in the future I'm sure you'll be moaning if Microsoft didn't have any support for it on Windows. They're not going to postpone it because XxINFERNUSxX doesn't have the right monitor yet.

CaptainHenry9161554d ago (Edited 1554d ago )

This is great news. I'm about to invest in a new HDMI 2.1 and Display port 2.0 monitor this year I'm looking at you Asus PG32UQ . Perfect timing 👌

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Wrex3691554d ago

This is such a cool feature honestly.

Fluke_Skywalker1553d ago

This is good news I hate having to enable HDR manually everytime I play an HDR enabled game. Some games already turn it on automatically but they are very few and far between (Destiny 2 is actually the only one I know of 😅).

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Steam vs DS4Windows – Which is best for DualSense On the PC

Now that I've had some time to play with the PS5 DualSense on PC with Steam and DS4Windows, it's time to decide which is best for PC gaming.

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Teflon021658d ago

My issue is that on steam you can modify on a game by game bases as some nave native support and DS4Windows you'd have to turn on and off and the issue with what I'm saying. If it has native support and you use the Steam API or DS4W it'll give you Xbox control prompts so it's more convenient to just run the steam API. Generally games outside of steam make sure to have support unless old. I have both and will only use DS4W if I absolutely have to. It's good but the game by game bases on steam is so much more ideal. Example Games with DS4 native support will allow trackpad support like Ni no Kuni using the track pad. But with DS or Steam activated it puts the trackpad to the share button. So the manual ability to disable it anytime that game starts makes it where that game operates correctly every time

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XxINFERNUSxX1658d ago (Edited 1658d ago )

I just use my 360 controller for 3rd person games, like GTA. All FPS games keyboard/mouse. No need for me to spend 70$ on a controller. Plus I like it to just work without any drivers just plug & play like the 360 controller.

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Try turning off Windows 10's Game Mode if your games are stuttering or freezing

A growing number of users say Game Mode is causing performance issues in games.

oasdada1866d ago (Edited 1866d ago )

Wow i just turned off my game mode a few days ago just because.. and i felt sloght performance getting better but i thought maybe it was just me.. and now i read this

godmachine1866d ago

Right , I read this about a week ago and immediately changed it even with a nvidia gpu my fallout 4 with 3d vision stopped hitching almost entirely

starchild1866d ago

Hmm I've been getting microstuttering in games on my relatively new Ryzen 5 3600. But it always goes away once I restart my PC. Very strange. But I think I already have game mode turned off.

Rude-ro1866d ago

Not sure if you can turn it off.
I
Have to go into task manager and fight it to get it stop running.

Skuletor1866d ago

I turned it off today, was relatively simple. Went to settings, gaming, clicked game mode on the side tab, then toggled it off

Rude-ro1866d ago

@sicksincesix

Right... but I find it still running when going through the task manager.

traumadisaster1866d ago

Last week I heard of that while trying to figure out audio stuttering on a rd 5700. There seems to be a lot of people having audio crackle and go in and out on amd. It seems like there is an audio conflict with two sources trying to control, I don't know.

monkey6021866d ago

I've been diving into the PC gaming side of things head first since last summer and I have a good grasp of it and I'm comfortable with it all now

But what you've just said is exactly why there'll always be a space for home consoles in the gaming market 😂

traumadisaster1866d ago

True, there can be enough problems to make one think it's not worth it. But overall since the ps360 days playing in HD or even 4k at 60 fps vs the muck of 720p under 30fps, non vsync with awful tearing it makes you figure out the pc. Then when you get steam sales over the years it's really nice. But there is a small percentage of pc horror stories that won't happen on console.

TheColbertinator1866d ago

Did this a year back and apart from less performance hiccups I also got less sound glitches. W10 Game mode is not a very beneficial feature for me.

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