Bethesda's lead producer Jeff Gardiner confirms that you can play Fallout 4 for 400 hours without seeing everything, in no small part thanks to the game's extensive crafting system.
Great, guess it's time to open shop in the wasteland.
"You can play Fallout 4 for 400 hours without seeing everything" Challenge accepted!
you'll see everything in the 401st hour. just give it time! :)
I can and I will :) And I'll enjoy every one of those 400 hours. Then enjoy the next 600+ hours. Then I might start doing story missions :) Oh I cannot wait, most anticipated game in years for me. The wastelands await.
Just like 99.9% of gamers, I failed that challenge in Fallout 3. Mostly because there was no incentive.
400 hours ?! No ...just no i will only play it for 399 hours I have a life,Bethesda.
Wish I had time to play this kind of games :( they were my favos. I bought witcher on release day and played it only for 6 hours :(
I'm not sure I would want to play a game for that long. I normally lose interest, if I don't beat a game within 5 months. And then, new titles come along that take, whatever time i have left. After working all day, I get to sit in front of the console for 3hrs at a time (at the most).
If I walked around really slowly and read every conversation at the pace of a sloth I'm sure lots of games could last 400 hours. I don't believe you can play at a normal pace and not do everything in 400 hours. I'm calling Destiny levels of bs on this one.
This year has so many open-world games, its amazing.
"Everything" is a vague way to put it. Do they mean content? Or some trash can in the far reaches of the wasteland?
will play mgs 5, mad max and uncharted trilogy till fallout 4 Than its just fallout 4, sadly I will have to get just cause 3 too even if it's g just gonna sit in the backlog fallout 4 will be epic
problem is that puts me off the game. coulndt we just have 200 hours?? surely that many hours it has to be loads of fetch me ,carry me crap??
I can't wait #1 most wanted game BY FAR.
You people think you know better and know that its not his most wanted game of the year by far? so you disagree? I see, i guess he is lying then about this own personal opinion!
Maybe they just assumed he was speaking for humanity?!? :0 That's an easy mistake to make. This is probably my most hyped game to date though, and this news only makes the wait even more excruciating!
is it not ok to disagree with someone's opinion? it's not my most anticipated game, so i disagreed. go look up the definition of disagree...
Agree is to also say this is my #1 most wanted game too. Disagree is to say it's not my most wanted game. Neither are really about questioning the OP's personal opinion.
This and MGSV will last me until 2017 confirmed!
Just one month left fellow Diamond Dog.
We are diamond dogs
Didn't Bethesda also claim that Fallout 3 would have over 100 endings or something similar? Anyways, don't care what they say about this game, will have it DAY ONE!
They always make big claims that don't make it to the final game. Always
Well it's different when they say it now, the game is actually finished, content wise, according to Pete Hines. If they claim that now with the game finished, it probably has some truth to it. They're only fixing bugs and polishing things from now to release.
Can't agree with you there, whenever I've seen them showcase their games, Fallout 3 and Skyrim in particular they have been super honest and show off only the features that are ready. I think Skyrim had 1 live action trailer but apart from that everything they show is in engine. I think they are one of the most honest dev teams around considering how big they are too.
Oh really perjoss? You must have missed the lies. Todd howard is famous for it. Even has a meme. https://www.google.at/webhp... Oblivion was a huge one for it. One of their demoes of it featured straight up stuff that wasn't in the final game. Radiant Ai they called it. Skyrim had alot too. Like the 'economy' system. Does it even exist?
@Perjoss You see that mountain? You can climb it.
Yeah I never understood too well how radiant AI, the creation engine, or the supposed economy system work. I feel like they exist in some way or another but they are just archaic shadows of the concepts they propose. Hopefully we get something like that this time that feels more palpable during a play through.
That was one of the most grandiose and cheap claims I've heard from anyone (the Todd Howard quote you're referring to). To equate a bunch of sentence combinations as '100 different endings' is hilariously untrue. This is a pretty bold and direct claim though, even compared to that... 400 hours is insane no matter which way you cut it...unless they meant to say 400 minutes!
Not only that but all of the endings were pretty terrible in general. Not only were they all uninteresting but they were conveyed exclusively through goofy picture montages. As for the narration, I'm still on the war has changed side (MGSIV). Kind of strange that they ripped that line off and didn't even manage to deliver a nearly as epic speech.
Well if you play it at a relaxed pace the estimated time would either be at 400 or float around 400...
I can play it forever and not see everything--as long as I don't go in some building somewhere.
I'm not big on size announcements. I'd rather hear something like, you can see everything in 20 hours but it'll be a damn great 20 hours with no grinding or story lolls.
stupid logic is stupid. i'd rather have a long AND good game than just a short and good game. if i'm gonna pay full price for a game i damn well better get my moneys worth.
Not me. Id rather have a good game i can complete before i get bored of the gameplay. Not seeing the whole story after 75 hours and being fed up and bored of the actual gameplay is worse than a game that is too short.
"stupid logic" You love to use that. Nothing else you can possibly say? And why attack peple so much? Not everyone will share ur opinions, no matter how good you think they are some people will prefer something totally opposite from you so get over it. You are probably some fat pathetic gamer who sits in his moms basement and rages on N4G all day. I know I know that's stupid logic by me.
'X is X' is one of the most hackneyed and trite phrases used on the internet. And ironically in your case, usually by idiots. Go figure.
Skyrim took me 209 hours to platinum. I still haven't finished everything. I felt by the end, I was getting burned out hard in the fantasy world. I'll play Fallout 4 to exhaustion as well. This is my last massive time game for awhile. I am over 100+ hour games. I need more Uncharted, Until Dawn, etc. That is why I liked The Order. It was a cinematic ride and a break from the Ubisoft open worlds, fantasy games, galore. Sometimes I just want to sit down and start a game that I can finish before I forget what happened in the middle. ..lol
Despite your disagrees, people should recall the time restriction on the original Fallout - which was about 20 hours if I recall correctly : It's almost impossible to do everything in that time but it really took the grinding aspect out of the game and really created a tense and punchy experience that begged to be replayed. Therefore -- in some aspects -- I really think you have a point. Fallout 3, and to a lesser extent, NV, started to run out of steam for me when I began to recognise patterns in the 'fetch that, kill this' quest designs (I'm referring to the ones outside of the big ones like Beyond the Beef or Come Fly With Me), which of course were marred by a severely outdated engine. The originals were praised for their highly concentrated approach to crafting an RPG. As you referred to, less padding and more punch is certainly something I'm looking for. Then again it is 2015, and Fallout is now a large-scale RPG in comparison to the relatively focused and small world of the first two games, so I can see why they aspire to make this game bigger and bolder than anything out there today. And to be perfectly honest, from what I've seen so far, Bethesda appears to be nailing both aspects perfectly.
The Last of Us is a perfect example. It doesn't take a ton of time, but has replay value via difficulty settings and an interesting multiplayer. I'd take that any day of the week than, grinding or collecting stuff or having a billion side quests that do nothing but take you off the main story.
I think I might have to quit my job.
Well you can play gta V for 400hrs and still not see everything lol. Pr talk
urgh GTAV was so boring. that game killed the series to me.
He stated the truth though. I can play fifa for thousands of hours and not see everything....... Teams and players.. See how that works.
I don't know how you could think that, what is it lacking that previous GTA entries had? I always scratch my head when people bemoan about V being a disservice to the franchise and that SA was the last good one...it's a true sequel to SA if anything.
@EazyC No one can answer this question because objectively GTA V would be the best GTA game. It's just that some people don't like it as much.
True - far as terms go, that's pretty flexible... what does he mean by seeing I wonder? Little crevices with arbitrary loot chests with a few 10mm rounds? Or does he mean full-blown settlements/meeting fully-fleshed out characters/quests?
I better crack on with The Witcher 3 then, Ive played nearly 4 days and STILL havent left for Skellige..
I have like 60 hours (started once and then restared) and only have seen Velen and Skellige, and in those maps I am not close to seeing everything.
skellige is huge, i went back in a month after finishing and immediately discovered a small dungeon with a boss type enemy in it there wasnt even a notice on a quest board for it and it was hidden beneath some rubble.
did you get witcher gear?
Don't remember getting anything special. Plus I remember that items were suppose to be random
The bigger a game is, the less appeal it has to me now. I really wanted to see the whole storyline to witcher 3, but after 75 hours i was bored of the gameplay and only halfway through the game. I dont want games to be more than 20-35 hours long to see the main story. Anything more than that makes me not want to even start the game. Bigger is not always better.
"Bigger is not always better" That's not what she said.
@Bak You get offended by that?
The Witcher 3's main story doesnt take 75 hours though.. you can complete it in 20-25 hours depending on how fast you level up. Fallout 3 could be completed in iduno.. less than 10? Then again, almost no one plays these games solely for their main storyline. Perhaps open world games aren't your thing?
Call of booty is your kind of game I suppose. Open world RPGs aren't for you casuals ;)
While I do agree that bigger is not always better I would normally not even look at an RPG unless it had a minimum of 30 hours of game-play although that really depends on the type of RPG game. Personally I do prefer games that are greater than 30 hours, however if that game becomes tedious to play which is subjective then the the appeal is reduced and eventually you just give up. I have played many RPG's that can take well over 80 hours to complete that I have found very fun to play to the extent that I really don't want to get to an ending so I end up doing the side quests which can be interesting and add to the enjoyment of the game. Of course in some games (Dragon's Dogma I am looking at you) those quests can be pretty much the same thing with minor variation which can get quite boring. I usually find games that have some randomness are much more interesting and actually do give the game a better replay value. Linear games IMHO have little replay value although if you keep it long enough then any replay is for nostalgia.
and when you see a lesbian wedding in the game, you'll know you've seen everything
Nah, there's still scat porn and crap
Fallout 3 was considerably smaller than Elder Scroll games so this is great.
I liked Fallout 3 but the colour was a bit dreary after a while and everything looked rather similar as a result. They seem to have rectified this for Fallout 4 so i will be happy to spend 400 hours in it.
I could play PacMan for 400 hours and only see the first level...if I suck.
I really dislike when devs say how long their game is or how many hours it takes to see or do everything. It's always PR talk. CDPR did it with the Witcher 3 200 hours play time, Beth did it with Skyrim 300 hour play time and other devs do it. Anyway, people play at different rates, take Skyrim for example. I beat it less than 90 hours and completed every quest but the game was said to be 300 hours long. Were they expecting me to just keep wandering around the world to wait for something to happen? Plus these games will eventually get boring if you play them for this long.
You definitely could just do the main quest in Skyrim in less than 60 hours if you want but if you have the DLC or the Legendary Edition then you would be battling to complete Dawnguard, Hearthfire and Dragonborn as well as the main quest in less than 100 hours. There is so much you can do in Skyrim and to a lesser extent Oblivion that you could easily spend hundreds of hours playing. One main feature is the randomness of some of the events and items which IMHO keeps the game interesting. You also have different guilds with their own side-quests that you can join which also adds the the enjoyment of the game. I do agree that eventually no matter how good the game is you will want to move onto a different game but at least you have got your moneys worth and at a later date a possible replay.
I could do all those things in around 100 hours. It's just that I mod my game and dick around at times and that extends play time.
Eh, I always enjoyed more of a streamlined quicker experience. 400 hours seems less like a lot to do and more like a lot of time-wasting.
I have heard this exact sentence before from bethesda 3 times since Oblivion released. I have heard Todd, pete, and many other devs make outrageous claims that were proven to be false e.g Skyrim having over 70 voice actors, burning down a mill and messing with the economy, and he even reverse lied about werewolves not being in the game 1 month before launch. So the game being finished adds no validity to any claims made by Todd or anyone else, they just like to Peter Molyneux people and everyone keeps falling for it. As a bonus go look up little lies by Fleetwood Mac on youtube and read the comment section.