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Despite the complaining, Nintendo have done well

From Native Monster:

"Nintendo has announced that the Wii U has sold more than 10 million units. Is it me, or is that actually pretty good?

"Clearly this isn't even in the same ballpark as the Wii was, but it's not a million miles behind the Xbox One. In fact it's barely even a million units behind the Xbox One."

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Big_Game_Hunters3189d ago

opinions are debatable, thanks captain obvious.

KwietStorm_BLM3189d ago

That's the whole point of a discussion, isn't it?

suckingeggs3189d ago

@big

If Its obvious and you understood... Why Did I hurt your feelings?

Big_Game_Hunters3188d ago

@ Kwiet. the whole point of a discussion was to actually discuss. not to simply state that you can discuss and nothing else, which is what he did.

@eggs
wow look at that reply,Neither comprehending my comment nor coming up with a half intelligent response, like some 6th grader.
Don't bother responding, i just ignored you as you clearly have nothing and will never have anything of value to say.

herbs3189d ago

Lol all the typical negativity directed at Nintendo from teens who think success is a popularity contest because they are all still in high school. The end result for corporations is profit and Nintendo as usual is doing more with less. Nintendo is a far more focused company compared to its rivals and they are able to profit at much higher margins in comparison. Is the Wii U a huge success? Not even close, is it still making Nintendo a ton of money? With its high attach rate of Nintendo software and amiibos the answer is a responding Yes. As much as this bothers the fanboys that is the reality.

Shnazzyone3188d ago

Serious. I don't know a single person over age 25 who gives a fuck about the console wars or wishes failure on nintendo systems. the console war has always been a game for immature individuals. Be happy with the system you own, if you feel anger towards another console you should take a moment and assess why that is. Most of it is likely jealousy for what you're missing out on by not having that system. Grow up, realise you might get it eventually and you'll like it then. No reason to wish failure of an amazing company like nintendo just so you have a remote chance of playing those games on your system of choice.

spacedelete3189d ago

Wii U has sold 12 million less than the Gamecube. its not even debatable how bad its done. i still don't get how its gained some love from fanboys as its an awful console.

deafdani3188d ago

Because it has awesome games. If you stopped fixating on sales so much and looked at what actually matters, you'd see why the majority of people that actually own a Wii U, love it.

Nevers0ft3188d ago (Edited 3188d ago )

Maybe because of the excellent (albeit limited) software line-up? Not everybody lets their hardware insecurities get in the way of good games.

Yes the console is flawed and Nintendo completely stuffed the marketing... That doesn't stop the software line-up from being absolutely stellar though. Even if you don't like Nintendo games yourself you can't argue with the statistics, just check Metacritic, Nintendo fairly consistently hits it out of the park when it comes to games.

GordonKnight3188d ago

Funny!

I have the PS4, X1, & Wii U and the console that I play the most is the Wii U.

Wingsfan243189d ago

The Wii U was out a year before both the PS4 and Xbox One and by now it has only sold 10 million units. That's not very good when compared with the Wii. You're supposed to increase your sales of a new console, not the other way around. Just look at what the PS4 and Xbox One did after their counterparts.

Plus, software sales are abysmal for almost every third-party game ever released on the Wii U. The system was a failure, and continues to be. Aside from some of the great titles released over the past year, it's still not doing well at all.

marloc_x3189d ago

Kudos to Nintendo for approaching Playstation profits with little 3rd party support, less than half the install base and no subscription revenue 👍

wonderfulmonkeyman3189d ago

"software sales are abysmal for almost every third-party game ever released on the Wii U."

Way to ignore the difference in the quality of third party support during that first year.
It's because of those good third party games that both the PS4 and XBone got high acclaim during year one.
The Wii U got a flood of old ports with missing content, and very little else worth noting, from AAA third parties.

When third parties screw the system over by not making the games attractive/high-quality enough to convince even the most die-hard third party lovers to get the system for them, then of course the sales of those games will suffer.

Meanwhile, the games that do happen to succeed on the system, such as Bayonetta 2, do so despite the low install base and hateful campaigns against them.

Troll harder.

Wingsfan243188d ago

How exactly was I trolling? You pretty much just added more credence to what I already said regarding third party software selling horribly on the console.

And I specifically said there were some great titles released on the console over the past year that have helped.

Should probably stop using the word "troll", because you obviously don't know when you should be using it.

Here's an example.

The Wii U has no good games, including Bayonetta 2 which was trash just because it didn't release on the real next-gen consoles. /s

JacketsNest1013188d ago

While I agree with what you said, the "troll harder" bit was unnecessary.

Movieworld3188d ago

Please explain how Bayonetta 2 'succeeded'. Even the 3rd party games that were not low quality old ports flopped. Like COD Ghosts for example.

wonderfulmonkeyman3188d ago (Edited 3188d ago )

@ Movieworld

You're kidding, right?
Go look at the difference in available content for the Wii U version of Ghosts compared to all other versions.
Then check which patches and updates it is missing, including the nonexistence of any sort of season pass content.
Then look at the absolute lack of support in advertisement from the developers for the Wii U version.
Then try telling me it's the same quality as the others with a straight face.

It's a bad port by design. It stood no chance of getting even half the sales of other versions when it didn't even offer all the DLC as an option.
And the power of the system is no excuse, because the PS3, a weaker system, was capable of handling all the same content.

As for Bay 2, it has over 600k on an install base that isn't even half of the PS3 or 360 from back when Bay 1 first released.
And it got to that point on one system, with campaigns from "fans of the series" actively boycotting against it due entirely to the system it released on.
No matter how you spin it, that's a success against bad odds.

@ Pocky

"The system was a failure, and continues to be"
You're judging it a failure based entirely upon units sold without taking software, profits, or circumstances with third parties or indies into account.

How is calling it a failure without looking at the bigger picture NOT considered trolling?

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2pacalypsenow3189d ago

The Gamecube was better than the wii u imo

Metallox3188d ago

You just don't beat the GameCube easily, not even some PlayStation systems can.

FallenAngel19843189d ago

You call Wii U being the worst selling console is doing well? How low are your standards? Not only are the hardware sales low, but these are also the lowest total software sales a Nintendo has ever had for a console.

Xbox One sold 13 million in 1.5 years, Wii U would be lucky to reach that in 3 years

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3189d ago

uh no.
Mario Kart 8 is the 3rd highest attachment rate game in history.

KwietStorm_BLM3189d ago

So you cherry picked a standout. Mario Kart 8 doesn't represent Nintendo's whole position.

spacedelete3189d ago

when the Wii U's library is as awful and sparse as it is its no wonder all the starving Wii U owners all buy that game. theres not much else to choose on that pos console.

PhoenixUp3189d ago (Edited 3189d ago )

@ Otaku

That's no big accomplishment. Consoles with low install bases have a greater chance of having a higher attach rate. Its simple mathematics really. That's why PS2 which is the highest console with the highest selling software has a lower attach rate than Xbox.

Also attach rate =/= total software sold.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3188d ago (Edited 3188d ago )

please do continue.

Mario Kart 8 is over 5m which is half the amount of Wii U install base. You can deny it all you want.

PhoenixUp3188d ago

I really don't see what point you're making. Just because one game does well doesn't mean that the entire software sales are doing well. Its how much the entire Wii U library sells as a whole. These are still the lowest total software sales that Nintendo has ever seen for a console.

PhoenixUp3189d ago (Edited 3189d ago )

Double post

KindaGrump3189d ago

The Wii U has only sold 10 million units. Stop saying it's doing well. The PS4 and Xbox One are beating it and they have been on the market a shorter amount of time.

Talk about IP's, toys to life, or anything you can scramble up, numbers don't lie. The Wii U is a financial failure when compared to its contemporaries.

marloc_x3189d ago

If you put their margins side by side though..

gamingpro3189d ago

Maybe considered a failure to stupid fanboys financially but when it comes to actual gaming (do you know what that is?) Then Wii U wins hands down.

Wii U has the best quality, highest rated games.
The other 2 consoles are meh when it comes to ACTUAL GAMING which is why the casuals have all bought ps4's and real gamers have bought Wii U.

Casuals will always outnumber real hardcore gamers, the ps4 is this gens Wii. Sells a lot but doesn't offer much gaming wise.

Movieworld3188d ago

Doesnt offer much gaming wise?! 😳

TLOU remastered, GTA5, FIFA 15, COD, mortal kombat x ultra streetfighter 4, project cars, driveclub, UFC, bloodborne, batman arkham knight, The far cry 4, nba 2k15, tomb raider definitive edition, final fantasy 14, alien isolation and many more. Bitch puhlease.

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jznrpg352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

Zero Dawn sold really well so I’m not sure this belongs. The second game released next to a big game again and it hurt it some I forget what it was though, oh yeah Elden Ring .
But a good game is a good game to me I don’t care when they release personally but they do have to think about it when you want to get more people to buy it.

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The Tomb Raider Survivor Trilogy's Take on Lara Croft Deserved More Recognition

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isarai465d ago (Edited 465d ago )

Deserves less IMO, i think the 1st in the new trilogy was a perfect 1st step for the new direction. The next 2 games were half steps at best. Not only that, every character in the series including Lara is just annoying and doesn't make sense in terms of motive, like yes they have a motive, but none of it seems proportional to the lengths they are willing to go through for it. The most annoying thing is every one of the games say "become the Tomb Raider" yet 3 games later and we're still not there? No thanks. Then there's the mess of the 3rd game, massive skill tree that serves almost no purpose as there's literally only like 3-4 short encounters in the whole game, and they took till the 3rd game to finally manage some decent puzzles even remotely close to previous games in the series. Nah, the trilogy infuriated me to no end as a long time fan of the series, i hope we get better going forward cause that crap sucked.

Army_of_Darkness463d ago

The first in the trilogy was my favorite. I thought they were going into the right direction with that one until the second one came out and seemed like a graphical downgrade but the gameplay was okay. As for the Third, Graphics were really nice but it was kinda boring me to death with its non-stop platforming and exploring with not enough action! Well, for me anyway...

DeathTouch463d ago

Graphics on the 3rd one were abysmal. It’s more colorful and has more variety, but everything else was a noticeable downgrade.

The more open world with NPC quests was also handled very poorly, to the point I missed Angel of Darkness.

thesoftware730463d ago

I know it is your opinion, but she did progress as a character in each game, she even got more muscular and seasoned.

That is the thing, people first complained that there was not enough platforming and actual tomb raiding in the first and second games. Shadow remedied that and kept the combat elements.

3-4 encounters? huh? did we play the same game? there was plenty of combat and, the skill tree did matter, like being able to hang enemies from trees, set explosives traps on bodies, being able to counter, and that are just a few of the combat skills. The skill tree also had things like being able to hold your breath underwater longer, crafting upgrades, zipline upgrade, and climbing upgrades that all changed how you can approach situations.

Not knocking your opinion, but we definitely had different experiences. I had 98% completion on the shadow.

SoulWarrior463d ago (Edited 463d ago )

Sorry but i'm with him about the low number of encounters, the game throws loads of weapons and skills you're way with a comparatively low amount of places to actually use them, so they felt under utilised.

-Foxtrot465d ago

Yeah...no

It was awful, for THREE GAMES it was "become the Tomb Raider" where she went back to square one after each game. Not to mention after a huge reaction of killing someone for the first time she then becomes Rambo straight after and goes on a slaughter spree without a single other reaction. Her development was all over the place.

She was whiney, weak and in later game a little arrogant and selfish

Oh and the voice actress compared to the previous ones was not as good

Lara Croft deserved better and while they are decent games as they are, we deserved actual Tomb Raider games, we could have had better survival games if they just stuck with the original Lara Crofts origin about her plane going down. Surviving 2 weeks in the Himalayas...I'd have liked to seen that, who knows what mystical threat she could have faced in the mountains or underground some secret concealed cave.

Tacoboto463d ago

I thought Shadow of the Tomb Raider had better gameplay than Rise, but it annoyed me the most of the trilogy when I stopped to think about the story.

It's like they deliberately decided to make her unlikeable and did nothing to make the character you're playing as likeable or have even one sign of humility.

SoulWarrior465d ago

2013 I thought was a fine entry, but Rise and especially Shadow were painfully mediocre follow ups imo, I really didn't like how selfish and angry her character was in those two.

Terry_B463d ago

No. Please forget the crap completely.

northpaws463d ago

First one was decent, played through it twice.
Second one was okay, played through it once.
Third one was really bad, tried twice a year apart, still can't get through the first two hours, it is just really bad.

thesoftware730463d ago

Honest question, what did you find bad about it? the opening 2 hrs of Shadow were fantastic imo.

The opening was very similar to the first 2, what did you find really bad?

Not looking for an argument, just an honest question.

Starman69463d ago

3rd one just didn't feel like a tomb raider game. Possibly because the development was passed to another development team. Big mistake! Microsoft killed tomb raider making the first game a timed exclusive. Never recovered after that.

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Jiub591d ago

Although the late 2000s Turok wasn't my favorite, I would love a new entry. Open world survival with shotguns and dinosaurs. Not sure how we'd get the fusion cannon, but that would be pretty sweet too.

MadLad591d ago

Lol

All of these games are pretty much universally praised. Outside of Timeshift I literally own all of these.

Venoxn4g591d ago (Edited 591d ago )

XIII, The Darkness 2, Far Cry: Blood Dragon, Timesplitters: future perfect, Bulletstorm are awesome games