2K Games has confirmed that they are removing Hulk Hogan from WWE 2K16 in the wake of his recent leaked comments.
sigh, another personal phone call made public, God bless America.
Well Im not buying it now
Interesting. So now that the racist IS NOT in the game you're not buying it. Funny what moves people to action. "Oh please shut up everyone is so touchy now days It is getting to the point where we cant order Chinese food or go to KFC with out being considered racist." As evidence by the "well said" you received and nearly 3-1 agree/disagree ratio for an absurd comment that overlooks Hogan admitting he is racist. I don't have a problem ordering Chinese or going to KFC. Probably because I'm not spouting racism at the people taking my order.
Lol,be glad Hulk that WWE is not owned by Konami. they probably would have tried to completely deny your existence, erase archival footage of every match you were ever in, use CIA tactics to remove your image from all promotions past or present, bar your name from every interview and probably use internet hackers to try to brick everyone's copy of every wrestling game you were in. Just be glad.
@Blurmobjet +1 bubbles for the giggles
What goes around comes around.
Don't you mean What's all around comes around B1uBurneR?
Oh well when you are idiotic like he was here expect to pay the price for said idiocy. I personally have lost respect for him. Whatever befalls him, he only has himself to blame.
I don't think anyone at 2K thought this through properly. They may potentially lose more money from people boycotting the game because of the Hulk being removed than those who wouldn't buy it because the Hulk said some things 8 years ago.
its not about money though, for any big company, protecting your reputation is perhaps more important then income
@silvacrest Reputation is important. The NFL has a really bad reputation, but grosses over 8 billion a year. This makes your point invalid. In my book anyone with a DUI or is a women beaters is just as bad as a racist.
i doubt it was 2k's decision it was WWEs decision
A bigot is a bigot. Most other civilized countries deal with them in such a way. We are finally catching up.
we need a new word for any race that acts in such a barbaric, selfish, rude, inconsiderate way. I hate White's, Black's, Asians, Muslims and Indians that act like the rude, vile, violent gangsters they emulate on tv, music and movies. for me, my hate is never directed at skin color, instead I direct my hate towards sociopathic humans that treat others with disrespect on the daily, incorporating it into their personality. now imagine what would happen to your train of thought if you met allot of people from one race or another that retains said ^^^ characteristics. this might make an individual somewhat racist, depending on their local environment. I'm white, and I see allot of white trash gangster wannabes disrespecting and antagonizing people for no other reason then to be an mtv og. Now if 9/10 whites that I came across acted in such a way, I could forsee myself disliking most whites based on the actions and personalitys they have derived from media. would this make me racist per say? or do I just hate how dumb sociopaths act? regardless of skin color? the issue is always much deeper then skin color. the question that's never addressed is WHY are people 'racist'? riddle me this 😶
Not saying its right however Obama used the N word during an interview last month. He is still employed.
sonykong ive always felt this to be true.. most people labeled as racist arent truly.. they hate the stereotype theyve placed on a certain race.. why is it wrong to hate criminals? placing that hate to every single person of the same color is wrong but ive never actually seen it happen (canadian... yay).. people like nice people and dislike bad people. growing up ive seen the race card played so many times it isnt even funny.. principal is racist for suspending someone because they are black (or whatever) and id be standing there like "uhhh.... im white and got suspended.. its cuz we were drinking beers on school property at 17" lol i know other parts of the world is a different story.. but thats my take on it..
@Toxic You do get the idea of using a certain word in context of making a point, and using one purely in a derogatory manner . . .
I guess you're a bigot then. I find your name offensive. Why would you use "slap happy jesus"? Are you trying to offend christians? It's not nice when you point out other people's imperfections yet have many of your own to correct.
@deno It's actually a reference to a few dumb videos friends and I made back in highschool. SlapHappy(Hey-Zues) was a character, and was played by my friend Jesus . . . I've actually addressed this on here already, not that I actually expect you to be aware of that. But go be a try-hard elsewhere. Now try to follow your own advice and keep from calling people out. Especially when you don't even have your facts straight lol.
Yeah, but when you are speaking shit of somebody's religion, like Charlie, it's "freedom of speech". Hypocrisy
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Worse thing is I want to feel sorry for him..But I cant as a black man. I cant be friendly with anybody that uses that word. I cant forgive him for that. Most black people wont to be honest.
Flex, He's just using redneck's language. If you see his history he never ACTED as a racist. That's stupid words coming from his mouth, but it's not hatred that he has. More dangerous are those guys who pretend they are politically correct but act very different.
His stupid ass should've knew better.....oh well.
Yet Vince McmHahon uses the N word in front of Booker T why is that a$$ not fired yet.
Who needs the NSA when the people you talk to leak your conversations. Now I have to go look up what he said.
They had a partial transcript in the National Enquirer. He said some bad stuff... and I know it offends people. But it pisses me off more that someone can have a private conversation given to the media and exposed to the world. What if every stupid thing any of us have said in the past was put out there for the world to see? I don't think any of us could show our faces with some of the things we said. I'm not saying Hogan wasn't an A-hole, but everyone has thoughts... bad thoughts from time to time about something, and we all say something stupid from time to time. It doesn't mean that he, or we should be only associated with that one stupid thing for the rest of our lives. The WWE has a right to remove Hogan from their organization, but doing so changes nothing. His character was a HUGE part of the organization's history. Even though they removed him, he will still be someone picture when the word "wrestling" is mentioned.
I'm sure most really rich people are a-holes. Most of the ones I've met have been.
The funny thing is, I get pissed off at specific people. I don't throw around negative insults at entire ethnic groups. Weird how that works.
Ooooo! The National Enquirer... I guess that's where one goes to publish such caliber of discrediting and defamatory stuff.
Common sense tells us not to say anything that is offensive to people in general. I'm tired of closet racist bringing up that it was private conversation. Soooo you let Donald Sterling get away with saying racial slurs also?
@SlapHappyJesus The EXACT words I was coming here to say. It's nothing, but ignorance and lack of rational thinking that prevents people from addressing the issue at hand. If I'm upset with someone, what on earth does bring up an race has to do with the issue I have with that specific person. I can't ever remember a time where I've ever used a racial slur against someone, because their race isn't the reason they're stupid, it's just the fact that they're ignorant. And when you're life is that of a public figure even a retired one, you're still held to a standard above those of the average person, so you're words are of greater consequence, especially with a media that's all bout gaining the most controversy possible.
I hate auto correct sometimes. "what on earth does bring up an entire race" "And when your life is" "so your words are of greater consequence" "especially with a media that's all about" -_-
@ guitarded I agree with you comment. I know I will get a lot of disagrees. But as a black man the word holds no weight with me. Maybe because black people as a whole use the word when talking to friends, family or just people in general. Hell I've seen and heard other races call each other it. I remember a few years back someone asked Malcolm x's daughter how she felt about other races saying the N word and she said " how can you get mad at someone saying that word, when you keep saying it to each other" All my friends are of different races and we say it to each other. I would be a hypocrite for getting mad at someone for doing the same. Now in hulk Hogan case. I stopped liking him when he bash randi savage after he died.
"If I'm upset with someone, what on earth does bring up an race has to do with the issue I have with that specific person" I'll put in my two cents here. I don't think it has much to do with race. Think about it, when you hate someone and want to insult them or put them down, how do you go about doing that? You think of the biggest and most efficient way to hurt their feelings, you try and find the biggest thing they're sensitive about and attack them for it. At least that's what most people do. Fat person ever pissed you off? Call them a fatass. Someone piss you off that had something extremely embarrassing happen to them? You insult them by reminding them of that. It's just an ammo thing, you use whatever insult will hurt the person the most. We have all said extremely offensive things in private when we thought nobody was listening, things that society would crucify us for. If you say otherwise you're a flat out liar. I think we should stop looking beyond surface level at these types of issues. Everyone has problems, everyone has anger and hatres in them at some point in time. Consider for a moment that maybe, just maybe, saying one racist thing does not actually make someone a racist. Also consider the fact that people DO change from time to time. Maybe Hogan genuinely was a racist back then, but what about now? Maybe he was just going through an emotional time in his life that made him an angry and hateful person who said ugly things. Maybe he has moved past his hatred and is not actually a racist anymore. People can change. And I don't think someones life should be ruined for a stupid mistake they made when they were younger. Think of the most f'd up thing you've ever said or thought in your life, now imagine it being broadcast to the entire world. You wouldn't think it was fair right? You were a different person back then, werent you? And you'd never say something like that now that you're a better person. Unfortunately for you, you will now be defined by society for that one mistake in your life. All it takes is one. Life isn't as black and white as society makes it out to be (no, this is not a pun or a joke). It's more complicated than that. One sentence, one action, one point in time in an individuals life does NOT define someones entire personality or existence. Of course I'm not saying he's not a racist p.o.s., I'm just saying whenever you hear someone say something that deeply offends you, think about it a bit more before trying to define someones entire life on that one ugly thing about them. Would an entire lifes work of charity and helping others be completely negated if that person said something racist or offensive one time?
I'm going to miss Hogan in my wrestling games. I can't imagine them without him.
All I want to know is why is the WWE still a thing? Why is it still being watched? ;)
I guess 2k14 will remain the most complete game in recent memory. Fortunately, Yukes does a good job on create a wrestler so the community will have some decent Hogans to download if you need that n.W.o. and Hulkamania 80s dream matches.
I have a feeling they will end up deleting Hogan creations much like they did with Benoit creations. Even though Hogan didn't go as big of a thing, I can see 2K and WWE keeping a close eye on the creations.
Wonder if they'll update older titles and delete his files or block them like EA did with Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson in Madden.
Bunch of over dramatic drama queens.
No kidding people are stupid now a days
Clearly you are a racist. If you heard what hogan said in the sex tape you'll understand that what's happened is Justified.
wow.. moving past that first sentence. what i think most people feel is this... look back at his life and career, he more then likely isnt a racist. now.. did he make remarks regarding the guy banging his daughter in the heat of the moment that can be taken as racist? sure.. but cmon... its not the same thing as hating an entire race.
Those comments were made toward a particular person 8yrs ago, he wasn't talking about a whole race. He went on to say he'd rather have her date a 8ft tall ni**er who plays basketball and makes millions. Gee why would the "racist"say he wants his daughter dating a 8ft tall black guy, if he's racist.
Hulk Hogan is just this months racist rant issue. Haven't any of you noticed we have 1 just about every month? Last one was the battleflag of the confederate, before that it was cops, before that it was some politician, before that it was something else. Just wait the next thing will be coming in a few weeks.
Didn't Vince use N.i.g.g.a before?
If we all are honest, some of our "personal conversations" could cast a different light on us as people. Having said that, it doesn't mean you, or I for that matter, are racists. I talk about poor black people in America all the time. Doesn't mean I'm racists against them. I just wish they had the mindset to do things differently AS A WHOLE. People keep harping on this "Black Community" thing. There is no Black community. There is a poor community. A not so poor community. A well to do community. A rich community. An exclusive community. All different skin colors and all different opinions. I talk about Wealthy "old money" white people all the time. Doesn't mean that I'm racists. I just wish they would realize the advantages that they have/had coming up and that their life doesn't reflect the average person in the world. I talk about hard working Mexicans all the time. Doesn't mean that I'm racists. Private conversations, IMHO, should be kept private.
Yah well you aren't a famous celebrity. No one cares what you think millions care what hogan thinks. After Donald sterling losing the clippers based on comments taped over phone im pretty sure most publicist told them to be careful what they say over phone.
But are you calling these black people the N word to describe them? That makes the difference.
"There is no Black community. There is a poor community." Christ.. So are you equating poor with black, or are you just ignoring every single other issue within the black community? Is there is no black community, tell that to Eric Garner, Sandra Bland, Amadou Diallo, Trayvon Martin, and the entire city of Baltimore.
Funny how we can read the same comment and get totally different things from it. But then again, I'm not trying to find fault in software lovers statement. He never said poor= black, far from it. And the continuing issues that are in the "black community" just so happen to be in poor communities. I don't think any of the rich Hollywood actors or successful business owners that are black have the same problems that poverty class people have, black or white, or whatever. And as for the police problems with the people you listed, keep in mind that Bland resisted arrest, Garner resisted and had health problems, Gray resisted arrest...see a trend? I'm no rocket scientist but I'm willing to bet that if a cop tries to arrest me, resisting isn't the best option regardless of my color.
@suicidalblues : So were are your vids of white men resisting arrest and being shot or strangled to death. You can't just pass off the death of people as okay because they resist police. Which law are you citing that says it is okay for police to kill those who resist. If that is the case, I may be dead soon, because I question everything and everyone.
@ bigpappy I don't condone any type of police brutality, but if someone resists arrest what is the police officer supposed to do? It's not like they can just give up and say "well,I tried to arrest that person but they said no". So what does the officer do when the situation turns physical? Edit: and to touch on a couple points you made... The strangle hold was deemed to be textbook, Garner wasn't strangled to death. Know your facts. And asking what law I was citing just makes you sound childish.
Regardless killing them still isn't an option in my opinion......there's a point where you have to make a decision. Someone's death should never be the solution.
Bigpappy, you realize that cops kill nearly twice as many whites as blacks, right? We just don't hear about any of those because it doesn't fit the agenda of the left or the liberal media. There is no white equivalent to Al Sharpton to go around and stir up riots because some moron white kid got killed because he attacked a cop. It's a crazy double standard, but that is how the left operates. They preach tolerance, but only to their views. Everyone else be damned.
@UnHoly_One- You do realize that black people are Disproportionately shot, killed, arrested, incarcerated, sentenced to die than white people are right? Somewhere around 15% of the country are african american. If you look at the numbers in light of this simple and fundamental statistical context things get a lot more clear. So your rant on "liberal" "left" boogymen is junk now. Confirmation bias being what it is, I don't hold out hope you'll ever see this perspective clearly.
Software_Lover, I get what you're saying. I grew up a poor white kid in a poor neighborhood with different peoples. I can tell you, I mostly saw the differences in being poor versus the kids being well off, more so than their cultural or ethnic background. I can also tell you there is some prejudice in many people no matter their culture - I was told by fathers of "non-white"girls that they weren't allowed to date "white boys." Do I think they were racist (as in wanting to terminate my people)? No. but a little prejudice? Yes. Either way, I was still more concerned about the inequality of the social classes I experienced and how different it is to be poor versus even being middle class. I know everyone says some not so great things, but don't equate someone to Hitler or some filthy rebel flag waving murders over some stupid words that may only be words. But, people do get offended in different ways, which goe back to thinking about your words before you say them. Hopefully, Hsogan's poor words are not truly representative of who he WANTS to be.
If we were all treated equally no matter of color, race, ethnicity.. then this would be a non issue. It's time for America and the rest of the world to shed it's racist skin. This new generation is passionate and they are making it known loud and clear we are not for it. And the generation to come should not tolerate it. People are losing their life over and just because it's not your love ones doesn't mean you should be passive about it.
Unfortunately Mr Hogans issue is not only the fact he may be racist but also the way he expressed that feeling, which of course makes the matter worse, it doesn't matter when he said it, it was wrong, private or not. Mr Hogan is a celebrity, someone in the spotlight, who requires that spotlight to make a good living, it is his responsibility to realise that his kind of lifestyle means nothing is ever truly private, whether that is right or wrong doesn't alter the fact that his true feelings on race should be for himself and himself alone.
I don't know...us yuppies tend to stay to ourselves. If we had friends they would find out where we hide our Jew gold. we have acquaintances, not communities. /s
Well...I can tell you that by some of the logic I see here every waiter and pizza delivery person would be considered racist, because in those service industries, I have not heard a single person that didn't like serving black people because they "don't tip". Even the black people that work in these industries say this. Now this isn't 100% true, just statistically speaking you're more likely to get stiffed from a black person than a white person. To me though, cheap-asses are cheap-asses regardless of skin color. To keep myself protected, I will qualify my statement by saying it may be region specific to the areas I've worked in. I never really considered any of those people racist per say, because overall, the ethnicity is rather diverse in the service industry, and outside of personal problems between individuals, I've never really seen a lot of latent hostility among staff members as a whole at any place I worked, and outside of a couple instances, i can't remember anyone being hostile because of a persons race. The above example does go to show that prejudices or beliefs can affect what people will say, but do not necessarily define what they believe or what their actions will entail. On the topic at hand, Hulk Hogan has for a long time been a positive role model, and while this ordeal may not make him the best person, I don't like when the media constantly tries to tear down those who have a positive influence on people's lives when that person's actions or comments were meant to express a certain feeling and it had no effect on the public at large. I feel Hulk Hogan's comments should have only been offensive to the person he was talking about, because that was who it was aimed at. The fact that everyone gets offended when someone else is slighted is not making us a healthy society.
The "black community", in America, are incarcerated at a much higher level than white people are. And we are talking when comparing the same offenses. They are killed for minimal offenses at a much higher rate than white people are. That's a statistic. Not simply a talking point.
I think WWE trying to act like they're all for justice which is bollocks look what happen Alberto Del Rio incident as cody rhodes still kept his job after what he said to him and those stupid racial stereotype gimmicks like new day and prime time!! Still seen no African American win the WWE Title once I wonder why is that and I am not talking about The Rock?
It wasn't Cody Rhodes who said it. It was a member of the production team called Cody.
Why not count the rock? Is he too much of a halfbreed outcast for you? Also what about Booker T?
So in your mind The Rock doesn't count? Is that your rationale? Yikes. I guess you forget Derek Jeter is black too.
Ron Simmons beat Vader for the WCW title in the early 90s. Booker T. had it 5 times. And I'm just going off memory but Mark Henry had a small run with it as well. The WCW championship always seemed to be the more important title than the WWE/WWF one. I know that now people feel it's the WWE title but it's a toss up and sad that Ron Simmons, Booker T., Tony Atlas (Samba Simba), Ahmed Johnson, Mark Henry, and others weren't pushed to have the title. But the Rock is a great example of how good you have to be on the mic and not just in ring ability to get that push. I think Vince just see's who generates the most heat and pushes reguardless of color. I think if Ahmed Johnson would have been just a little bit better on the mic he would have been in the mix during the Bret Hart era. He just wasn't as hated/liked as Bret, Shawn, Nash, or the Taker. Timing is everything. I think Zeus was the closest to taking the belt from Hogan in 88. They just kept working him into tag matches with Savage and just wouldn't let Zeus take the one on one win. Back then though the belts rarely changed hands. Wasn't Hogan Champion for 4 years before the Wrestlemania 4 Tourney? Also, because it wasn't a TV taping it didn't officially count, but Brock Lesnar dropped the belt to Kofi Kingston during a recent tour. Lesnar won it back the following show but still would have been nice to see someone like Kofi get some time with the belt. He had a lot of heat before the writers pushed him back into the background again. There are thousands of wrestlers. And the list is short of who have actually held the WWE Title. I think it's safe to say that everyone is pretty sick of Cena losing the title one PPV only to get it back a month later. Now he's ruining the US title. Now is a great time for a push for something fresh, someone that can work a crowd be it