Rare Replay's limited edition comes with the same Battletoads t-shirt worn by Xbox chief Phil Spencer during Microsoft's Windows 10 event earlier this year.
During the IGN Live interview with Phil Spencer, the crowd cheered even if the topic was about closures, and its because they were told to.
Just reading this headline alone made me feel grimy. Disgusting, all around. Haven't trusted IGN since over a decade ago, so this isn't really surprising to hear.
MS are buying up the industry so you need a compliant media to tell you how awesome consolidation and mass layoffs are... and they know MS is IP hunting too, they will be cut off from review copies of some of gaming's biggest IP's if they don't play ball.
The only way they can rise excitement in a crowd is paying for it. LAMENESS is MIcrosoft best product to date.
I think that kind of thing night be standard. I once was in the audience for Wheel of Fortune and there was a guy that briefed us before the show on his hand signals, when we were supposed to react/applaud and stuff like that and we were told to check under our seats because one of them had a prize underneath it.
Edit: Okay, read the article, this was definitely some slimy behaviour by IGN and it sounds like it wasn't just on the behalf of Xbox either.
Also, since IGN bought Humble Bundle years ago, they stopped occasionally giving a game away for free during certain big sales events etc, screw IGN.
It is for say a game show or similar shows for entertainment purposes but a interview not really.
Bruno Rodriguez confirmed that his statement applied to the entire three-day Fanfest event, not solely Phil Spencer's interview. Regrettably, this part of his response is absent from the article, which raises questions about its omission.
Here is the complete explanation
https://x.com/BrunoRo115301...
Petebloodyonion,
It is an odd omission. While I do believe IGN has some problematic biases, one can't really say it's done for Spencer in light of this information.
Good follow up.
I remember when they gave Alien Isolation a bad review because the alien AI acted like a actual Xenomorph which was free to do what it wanted and hunt you down, and docked Days Gone points because it had a white female as Deacons Girl, oh and they have one of the worst fanboys in Dustin, he has no shame whatsoever.
Don't forget "too much water". It's like they hate hire people that hate their jobs. This is a people problem, when people aren't humbled they become full of themselves. IGN and other news publishers have been given too much sway, and too much preferential treatment. They forget they're meant to inform the people, and have instead become a tool to sell an image these companies want to portray. Perception of power and authority and influence corrupts people.
Remember when game journalism wasn't about playing kiss a** to ensure that you would still have a working relationship with a vendor.
2013 journalism
So what do people without stable a internet connection do
Well fortunately we have a product for those people it's the 360
So stick with 360 that's your message
2024 journalism
Ok everybody Phil's coming clap and cheer or we kick you out here's a copy of assassins creed now clap
“Remember when game journalism wasn't about playing kiss a** to ensure that you would still have a working relationship with a vendor.”
No, I don’t hunk such a time existed. And when non-gaming a site like Paste Magazine or general news publication like The Chicago Tribune negatively reviews a game, the fans go out of their God dammed minds. So it’s not just about cozying up to publishers and their advertising dollars, also about pandering to fan bases.
I think the biggest difference between the past and present is that games were rated based on a number of factors, not opinions and emotions. Pre internet when print magazines were your source for reviews, guides, and news. While still subjective the measurements gave a base line about the games own merits & worth in it's own right from technical to storytelling. Such measures as graphics, story, sound, etc. Today professional games journalist merely means you get paid to write your opinionated drivel. At this point it's nothing more and no different than user reviews minus the fact they get paid. Because of this good games suffer in sales and we see less risks taken by publishers and instead see more and more retreads, remasters, remakes.... Because of this people are too quick to jump into the narrative instead of actually trying something new, different, etc. What is missing today is that subjectivity where games are rated on merits. 2 cents
Yet here you are, trying to down play the down playing?
Slimy behaviour is slimy behaviour, no matter when it happens.
Did you read the article? The crowd was told to cheer for whatever guest they had on and what they spoke about. The specific part about the layoff during the article was made up for the views.
Whenever something sounds outrageous, it is best to investigate further.
@Skuletor
Slimy behavior would also be calling something slimy behavior because of your fanboy hatred for said company, when in fact ALL live audiences are giving direction and incentive to act in a positive manner. It sales the product being promoted and gives the appearance of a fun atmosphere so more people would want to come and be involved in future tapings or events.
Bleed,
Exactly, super overdone desperate.
"Oh they stopped a union of Q&A people"
"Oh they paid people to cheer at a show"(which by the way is standard stuff). They do that shit at plays, comedy shows and I'm sure at almost any game show, I see people clap for UBIsoft lame ass shows all the time.
Haha, all this hate, and stupid news, because MS and Xbox is on fire...man people are really trying hard because no other game company had shit to show...
MS has so much devs under their belt and the heat is getting real now, no more drought years, shit they are even making PS fans happy when they throw them a bone from THEIR(MS) owned, (yup they bought them), developers.
Mostly on this bubble of a site are people even reacting to such silly nonsense, let's say they did so fucking what lol, the show spoke for itself.
With their multiplatform fest?
This is slimy whether it happened now or a year ago.
No, I wouldn't; I acknowledge any company when they have a great showing; that is a fact because I get more games to play.
My whole talk for the last week has been mostly shutting down all the nonsense hate of such a great gaming showcase. Trust me, I am well aware that MS is not "winning" and it's never a point I try to push.
For me, it's when you look at all the shit talking about MS having no games, they suck, there is no excitement for Xbox comments, and then boom, they have an excellent showcase, then the narratives change, and the goalposts move, and the ridiculousness ensues, point in case, silly fanboys calling it a "Sony show" because they had multiples.
So again, no, I wouldn't; my points as a whole are mostly pointing to hypocrisy and the silly fanboy hive mind mentality.
You're focusing on the showcase when this article in particular isn't about that.
This is about the crowd being told to cheer no matter what and we're given incentives to do so. If this was Sony you'd be damn be sure to focus that and criticize it. I'll give you credit in that you may sprinkle in a "they had a great showcase. No need to resort to stuff like this" to come off as neutral.
Edit:
I just read your post in it's entirety. Man, MS isn't only one that gets heat from fanboys. If Sony does a showcase where the main highlights are multiplats they will get comments from fanboys too. Question is, if Sony actually did this, what will YOUR reaction be? Will you praise them like you do Microsoft? Or focus on the hypocrisy of Sony fans who will undoubtedly praise the show? Or call out the hypocrisy of MS fans who will undoubtedly criticize the show for multiplats being the best games shown?
"I'll give you credit in that you may sprinkle in a "they had a great showcase. No need to resort to stuff like this" to come off as neutral."
SMH, you have to understand that this comment alone will make you miss most points of what I say, so discussions with you come off as almost pointless, lol.
Your constant guesses about what I would say equate to nothingness because you are going to read, interpret, and fabricate in your own head what I say instead of what I actually said. To you, it's a console war, and you are fighting it, not me. I vote mostly with my wallet, and in that regard, I support Sony, Nintendo, and MS. Anything else is a lesser value argument than your perceived thoughts about me being neutral or not.
Sony did, in fact, have a 2023 showcase where they showed and displayed a lot of 3rd party, multiplatform games(I posted it on the other thread, about 16 games from the showcase coming to PS); I did not shit on the conference or say that it was an MS show. If going forward, MS fans were to say the same thing, I would not join in on the nonsense, and at the same time, the Sony-only fans are setting the stage for that type of behavior.
Lastly, the main highlights of the showcase were NOT multiplatform(unless you are counting PC, then lol). I guess they were, but then that would be the case for everything Xbox shows and the games that Sony releases on PC, staggered or not.
I'm not fabricating anything in my head. There's obvious bias in your posts you're just not willing to admit them.
" I would not join in on the nonsense, and at the same time, the Sony-only fans are setting the stage for that type of behavior."
O REALLY?
Well BOY, do I have bad news for you. Xbox fans are the ones that set the stage for 'insert console' has no games type of behavior during the PS360 era at the beginning of the Gen. Since then each side has been flipping back and forth on the 'no game mantra swhen it suits them. If you truly weren't fighting the "console war" you'd acknowledge this and realize why only pointing the finger to one side is pointless because they BOTH do it when it suits them and shamelessly so.
Exactly, it's been a long a** time since they had a decent show and all of the sudden it's the second coming of Jesus lmao oh, and apparently we PS gamers are afraid and salty because Sony didn't have a 2 hr show...It'll only take a 20 sec trailer of the new Ghost of Tsushima just to smack them down to reality and show them who's boss;)
Yeah IGN is a mouthpiece for advertiser's that's how they make money try going to a IGN site without being suffocated by ads. Microsoft like this practical as they have deep pockets
You're not going to take out full page ads and side banners in a publication and see the game get a 6/10
Most of the gaming media are the same, especially the ones here in the States. They try so hard to keep their preferred brand kinda relevant. It hasn't worked though, with every month that passes by we see their box to decline in sales more and more.
Once again, we observe the familiar scenario of individuals diving into the comments section without reading the article itself. Below is some information extracted from the article.
"The person who talked about it, Bruno Rodriguez, mentioned that this cheering and shouting wasn’t an exclusive thing just for Spencer, and this was something they were instructed to do regardless of the person being interviewed."
It's quite surprising that MP1st didn't post Bruno Rodriguez's full response to the video, clarifying the context, his inability to hear the host properly, and how it wasn't a Phil Spencer thing, it happened the WHOLE weekend. The link is provided as the source is significant.
https://x.com/i/status/1800...
But I'm pretty sure that no one will actually go see the response and make it a IGN suck they planned this for Spencer
Actually, I find a certain aspect of IGN scummy, the idea that it wasn't broadcast live despite the event being named IGN LIVE.
haha, they are still ignoring your facts; man, you can't make this shit up.
17 downvotes for a factual post and people under you are saying the same shit, not seeing how their biased ass opinions are even worst than anyone on IGN.
No conspiracy right ? IGN and Digital Foundry have nothing to do with being MS shills. But the obvious tells us otherwise.
Are Comicon, Gamescon, and similar events now conspiring simply because they offer prizes, drinks, and more during their conventions?
IGN Live 2024 was a three-day fanfest convention featuring numerous events, including the Spencer interview.
Here is the complete 3day event recap
https://www.ign.com/article...
Click bait and petty stuff right there. Even if it was true it's not that big of a deal. No need for people to get upset over it. Like I said before this type of stuff is expected because of the good Xbox showcase.
It's an IGN thing, not an xbox thing.
"The person who talked about it, Bruno Rodriguez, mentioned that this cheering and shouting wasn’t an exclusive thing just for Spencer, and this was something they were instructed to do regardless of the person being interviewed."
and all of you eat it up like cotton candy, very nice. Disgusting headline Excaliburps, maybe read the article.
I would say keep your fucking prizes, I'm going to say what I want period. Phil the shit bag would definitely hear me about the topic about closures. Would have called him and MS greedy POS's and Phil your a fucking disgrace to the gaming community and would be best if you just resign, just GTFO. MS is worth how much? 3 trillion, that's all I'm saying.
Lol...I don't believe a word of that. That keyboard warrior stuff doesn't go far nowadays. Phil Spencer is a multimillionaire. I'm sure he gets a butt load of comments like this on a daily basis. If this stuff bothers you that much that you are saying such ridiculous things about a person you've never met it's time to take a breather. It's not that serious. I don't condone the closing of studios but unfortunately it happens. I don't get the negative attitude about Phil. He's not a saint but neither are the other people in the same position at other companies. What has he done to you personally that you would've have this attitude towards him? At the end of the day he is just another dude doing a job.
No really I would say that. I'm the type that is shoot first ask questions later I do not hold back anywhere, and don't care what comes out of my mouth. I have always been this way, it's shit bags like Phil that need to be told off and most likely deserve to be slapped around. You know it's true he's rich, MS is rich but those studios he closed, those people are not rich and TBH he does not give a fuck. What's worse peole keep supporting a company that does this.
PRIMORDUS,
" I'm the type that is shoot first ask questions later I do not hold back anywhere, and don't care what comes out of my mouth."
Hmmm, is this a good thing? From reading your comment, I would say not.
It's a beta attitude, loud, obnoxious, Karen type, and generally spoken by people who need more confidence or are not happy.
You would ruin a showcase by yelling and screaming at a show where people are generally fans of a thing because of your opinion on a matter. I can assure you that it's not an admirable quality, and you need to sort that out. One option would be not to attend things you don't like, lol.
Few days ago, they were caught doing some IGNorant poll question on youtube asking who won the summer showcase showdown, Sony or Microsoft even though Sony have yet to get do their showcase.
They simply not even tried to hide it anymore now that they have too much power buyout other gaming sites does that remind you of some other company lately who tried pay to win the industry?
I'm literally one of the folks that pays no attention to ign I don't even clock on their YouTube channel I usually watch gameranx, ign always seemed off to me for some reason lol
Is this what adults are upset about in 2024? Damn, I could find a lot more to be upset about than pizza being offered at an Xbox event. 🤣
If I was there I wouldn't need any pizza to cheer. Xbox just had the best game conference that I've seen in at least 10 years.
Totally reminds me of the 360 days.
Don't know why guys are trying to trash it should be happy we got some games coming that are going to be awesome.
As dumb as this is, it is how live shows go.
At least we can stop pretending that ign is journalism.
Lol the prizes better be worth it headsets and 5hr energy lol. All that to sell ones integrity to cheer with excitement. I bet the headsets were something very cheap that a person could buy off Aliexpress.
This has nothing to do with Phil. But I guess it’s just fits better with the blue narrative here on n4.
… and Other Live Interviews
Exactly what I've been saying in the comments, IGN bought and paid for by Microsoft and now IGN bought out a large chunk of the gaming press in preparation to try and turn around Xbox's misfortunes whether you like it or not. IGN and its outlets are going to spam you with positive reviews and articles covering Xbox over the next decade. This is Rupert Murdoch levels of trying to control the messaging.
Duuh, as soon as there is a bit of negative news about Sony, IGN is all over it, making 10 videos about it. I already knew they were biased.
There are also US based Youtubers who do the same thing, Spawn Wave, YongYea, ReviewTechUSA to name a few. Sony makes a minor mistake they are all on it trying to kill Sony or Nintendo but when Microsoft continually makes nuclear bomb sized mistakes they are all silent. Unfortunately there are people who just support Xbox because it is the American Patriot Box and they invested too much in their digital eco system to quit, not because it is a better product.
I think people were forgetting or something. During ps360 days they were on Sonys neck every other day. It's known since then that IGN has some hardcore Xbox fanboys in their staff. This isn't exactly news
Weren't they caught using ps3 footage of games while reviewing 360 versions?
I haven't trusted them since and never will.
Usual for Xbox Shows. Remember their E3 events with tons of people in xbox shirts that clapped and cheered like there is no tomorrow.
that's why i don't give a fk about game reviews anymore, biased and bought companies
you tube game-play is your friend
This is a terrible and misleading article. The crowd was given prizes for cheering in general regardless of who was being interviewed or what they were talking about to keep the energy going. This is something every studio that has a crowd is instructed to do when they have a guest.
The article added the portion about Phil Spenser for the clicks and views.
There is no way people are surprised by this. It's the entertainment bizz, none of it is real, and it's all about getting your money.
You can't trust Microsoft. I quit following IGN years ago. It just shows how desperate everyone's gotten and the sides people are really on, they're far more interested in supporting the corrupt than those with integrity
Former PlayStation CEO Shawn Layden mocked Xbox Chief Phil Spencer on Twitter over his comments in a recent interview, though it seems the former PlayStation boss didn't see the entire interview before reacting.
Must be a slow news day 🙄 😴 We're talking about a former ceo that doesn't even work for Sony anymore
@mp1st.com’s Ibrahim Kabir is so invested in the format wars that when Shawn Layden called out Phil Spencer for his hypocritical stance on Call of Duty exclusivity, Ibrahim got upset at the mocking of Spencer. So now he’s written a useless article to say Phil Spencer deliberately said that because IT WAS A TRAP?!!
Please stop this nonsense, just stop it. Write about news, not this crap.
Just more senseless crap in attempts to distract us away from all the DEI BS the industry is trying to pull.
He wasn't baited, it was a stupid hypocritical comment from one Phillip Spencer which is par for the course for him.
Well he saying he didn't want to do slimy tactics because he wants it to go to everyone like he's a saint...but we know Starfield still isn't on PS and the call of duty parity is due to a 10 year contract they signed to help get the Activision buy out to go through.
https://www.google.com/amp/...
He also complained that he couldn't advertize COD on their showcase because of the Marketing deal Sony had with COD when they had one with Cyberpunk and currently have one with all the Atlus games. It's just hypocrisy all around.
@VersusDMC they're also the ones who did those deals first on the 360. You'd also bet if they were market leader, they'd be doing the same thing because Microsoft are a bunch of hypocrites.
Also, Phil Spencer is far from a saint. I've never seen such a despicable and worthless human being in my entire life. Plus his stupid smile, clearly evil and I just want to punch him in the face as hard as I can.
Gamepass is good for gamers, but the worst thing for developers and you can bet if it takes off even more, the monthly fee will skyrocket. Not that it will, the subscriptions aren't increasing and I seriously doubt they will, they've reach their peak already.
@Giga_Gaia I don't know what's worse the comment or the people who liked your comment.
"Phil Spencer is far from a saint. I've never seen such a despicable and worthless human being in my entire life. Plus his stupid smile, clearly evil and I just want to punch him in the face as hard as I can."
He is the CEO of a video game company. I can think of a hundred other people who deserve that level of hatred.
You failed to mention what vile act was done by Phil Spenser but I suspect the main thing he is really guilty of is that he is Sony's main competitor. Xbox in the 360 days is much different than the Xbox of today so whatever was done back then doesn't apply to how Xbox is being run today. Had Xbox continued with that style of management, they would likely have remained the market leader by a significant margin as they would purposely outbid Sony on every deal. Except what we are hearing Phil Spenser say is that Sony is making all these deals which are detrimental to Xbox which is odd because he has more money than PlayStation. This leads me to believe that his style of leadership is much different from what we know Xbox was back in the 360 days.
Leave this console war nonsense behind. They are just pieces of plastic for your entertainment. Start thinking like a consumer and show no loyalty to either side.
"And Microsoft absolutely ripped Hifi rush, redfall and Starfield off playstation as they had PS5 versions in development."
Big difference between knowing the back room politics of what we found out and those games not being formerly announced to be on PS in the first place, vs a game like Stellar Blade that was announced to the world that its coming to Xbox only years later no longer coming to Xbox. Again those games weren't announced to be on PS. Plus, just like COD they own those games which means they can do what they please with those games. Hi FI made it on PS5 eventually.
Unlike Final Fantasy remakes, keeping a 3rd party IP off other platforms. IP Sony doesn't own. You're right MS was very slimy mainly during the 360 days and early X1 days. As of late in the past 8+ years or so Sony has been doing more 3rd party deals and having timed exclusive things compared to MS. Again I go where the facts are, as you know.
Ms hasn't had many 3rd party exclusives games cause all the 3rd party games their paying for day 1 on gamepass. Idk how tf yall can't see that. They can't pay for both. Well won't pay for both. So what do you want. Day 1 3rd party or 3rd party exclusives
Also come on we already know game sales just aren't there
So if Sony bought Square and every Square game was exclusive to playstation it would be fine but 3 Square games exclusive to PS5 and several on other consoles is worse?
And Microsoft is slimy for not releasing Indiana Jones on PS5 because it is IP Microsoft doesn't own, right?
"So if Sony bought Square and every Square game was exclusive to playstation it would be fine but 3 Square games exclusive to PS5 and several on other consoles is worse?"
Yeah since they would own them. They can do as they please. If the roles were reversed you would be real mad at MS for keeping those games to themselves instead of investing in new IP MS would poach 3rd party constantly, like they use to do. Everyone would hate MS for making the remakes only on Xbox, I mean everyone. Let's not pretend ppl won't.
From a PR standpoint Phil won't mention all the slimy stuff he used to do constantly. Like the entire 360 generation and early x1 days until fans and media blasted him when it came to TR. That's just common sense he won't talk about that.
These are two professional sleaze bags. They know what they are doing when it comes to lying, being slimy and turning a profit. They might be okay outside of work, but while they are playing out their drama for a paycheck, their characters are the moustache twirling bad guy.
I think most people knew that was just click bait stuff meant to get a rise out of sony fans. Unfortunately, some fell for it. Phil wasn't taking a shot at sony or anyone else. All he meant was we are giving you a choice.
He literally responded with a GIF and people think it’s the most unholy immature thing ever
He’s just laughing at Phil Spencer’s hypocrisy which many of us are already doing anyway
When its slighty negative towards Phil ore MS shure you will not qualify it as news...because well you are Petebloodyonion nobody expected something else from you...
Did you actually take the time to read the article?
Please inform me about the negative content regarding Phil Spencer in " Former PlayStation CEO Shawn Layden mocked Xbox Chief Phil Spencer over his comments in a recent interview on Twitter, though it seems he did it out of misinformation."
I may not be a journalist, but I'm quite certain that assumptions do not constitute factual news.
But of course, when 20 out of your 20 comments on this site are aimed against Xbox nobody expected something else from you...
Glad one business in video games is finally standing up for consumers and scummy business of exclusive software. well done Phil your the best
Bleed
Ms doesnt have many third party exclusives cause their paying a sht ton for 3rd party day 1 gamepass releases. Those aren't cheap. They won't do both so which would you rather have. Also the fact that Ms has a few 3rd party, bought 4 to 6 studios, and 2 of the biggest publishers with many studios under them, that tells me phil is full of sht and it seems others are to. So Sony having a handful of 3rd party exclusives, sorry it doesn't add up to the slimyness of what Ms has done.
Ms right now is desperate, their consoles are dead in its tracks, game sales are down, and gp subscribers have stagnated.
Clearly after ready comments it’s evident ppl didn’t read the article
Phil wasn’t taking about PlayStation or any other platform, he was talking about call of duty and not forcing consumers by Him/xbox doing slimey things to get them on game pass but give them the freedom of choice to play wherever or however they want
And I quote:
“the boss sat down for an interview about the decision to bring Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 on Xbox Game Pass. Spencer said he doesn’t want to do “slimy platform things” and give people more options to play. “We didn’t say to anybody, you have to subscribe to play. If you want to buy Black Ops, great. It’s great for us, it’s great for the developer. If you want to subscribe, it’s also great. I want to give you the choice on how you play your games and who you play with and not try to do slimy platform things to force you to do what I want you to do. Give the players choice and what they want to do and who they play with.”
Shawn you work for Tencent(it's far worst than working for xbox)so i can't understand how you got the guts to talk that way abour a a former colleague in the video games industry? Where's the ethics shawn? You don't work anymore with sony ! Try to Get over it , you are with the Chinese now.
Sony paid to Activision to remove an entire mode from the Xbox and PC versions of COD 2019. They have had early betas before everyone else for years and exclusive cosmetics. But the second Xbox got power over the franchise they demanded absolute parity across the board. How the turn tables.
The former boss of PlayStation has responded to some recent comments made by Xbox head Phil Spencer in a recent interview. The wide-ranging interview covered a variety of topics, with the conversation at one point leading Spencer to mention that he doesn't want to do "slimy platform things" to force gamers to play games a certain way, which has now prompted a response by PlayStation's former leader.
“Phillip W. Spencer III:"Xbox’s aim with Call of Duty is to give players choice, not "do slimy platform things" that make one option more appealing."
Yet Xbox were the ones who started this exclusive crap with CoD during the 360/PS3 era. This guy is something else.
Yep, some of their fans also parrot this hypocritical line, MS started and popularised that trend, then spent 80 billion.
Pot kettle black.
"MS started and popularised that trend"
What a load of horse poo. Atari was paying for and securing exclusives back in the '80s. It's been around since the dawn of gaming, they're all at it. The earliest one I actually remember as it played out was Sony hijacking Final Fantasy 7 from Nintendo.
Edit: just read the comments again, are ye only talking about COD exclusive deals? If so then yeah, ye're probably right!
Old mcgroin
Just a heads up. Nintendo lost square by staying with cartridge. That's fact. After square pleaded with Nintendo to switch to a larger format. So Sony didn't really hi jack anything.
Last where we're you before Sony even entered cause this was common during Sega vs Nintendo.
Also before that I believe on nes. Developers used to have to sign like a 2 year exclusivity with Nintendo to be on their platform.
Might wanna read up a bit
@shinoff2183
"where we're you before Sony even entered cause this was common during Sega vs Nintendo."
"Might wanna read up a bit"
Might want to take your own advice and maybe read the start of my comment where I said "Atari was paying for and securing exclusives back in the '80s. It's been around since the dawn of gaming".
Gaming didn't start with Nintendo buddy.
@Old McGroin4h
"Sony hijacking Final Fantasy 7 from Nintendo"
Square Enix and a few other developers wanted Nintendo to adopt a disc format over the cartridge which they saw as outdated.
Sony literally came to Nintendo with a business proposition to make a console together, the Nintendo-PlayStation which would utilize that new format. Nintendo being the stubborn guys they are told them no, refused the disc format and eventually that lead Sony to go at it themselves.
Nintendo lost Final Fantasy because of their own choices, they didn't want to grow or evolve...the same issue they still have today in places.
Fact is exclusive deals and timed content is something Microsoft really hammered down on in the 360 days. What Atari did was no where near the same level as Microsoft who had so much money in comparison.
COD deals, games like Mass Effect, Bioshock, Tales of Vesperia, Dead Rising 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider and timed DLC expansions...Microsoft had it all.
@ Old McGroin - What, are you mental? Do you know gaming history? Sony didn't "hijack" Square and Final Fantasy VII. Nintendo refused to go the CD route because they were too easy to pirate. Nintendo was ALWAYS and still is to this day combating piracy as their number one goal. Final Fantasy was a pretty big game and I believe held the record for the most discs at one time. Granted, the game size itself isn't actually three discs long, we saw what could be done with Resident Evil 2 fitting on a 64MB cartridge but the quality was bad and Final Fantasy would have met the same fate. Squaresoft made the decision to go PlayStation just as many developers did. Nintendo was very controlling and their hardware was difficult and expensive. Sony had hired Steve Race from Sega whom had taken everything he learned from Sega and Tom Kalinski and applied it to the PlayStation. Sony made it easy for developers. Xbox goes to daddy Microsoft, who has deep pockets, and asks him for money to bail him out. We saw this with Peter Moore when he was Executive VP of Xbox under, then CEO of Microsoft at the time Steve Ballmer. Moore went to Ballmer and asked him for 1 billion to solve the Xbox 360 Red Ring of Death problem, which Xbox has ALWAYS had a problem with, they can't design hardware, which is why they need to exit the hardware business, but Sony didn't "hijack" Square from Nintendo. Nintendo made a lot of bad business decisions and Squaresoft didn't like it. Sony was making all the rights one doing business as Sega had done, but learned from Segas mistakes of having a wedge between Japan and America, Sony divisions worked in better cooperation, they had to or they would have failed just like Sega, so it was Nintendo who did it to themselves sticking with an expensive cartridge to mitigate piracy, but wouldn't ya know it? Pirates still found a way
Every word out of MS can be flipped on its head to reveal the truth.
"Yet Xbox were the ones who started this exclusive crap with CoD during the 360/PS3 era. This guy is something else."
That's not actually true. Sony paid to keep games off of Nintendo and sega back in day. Plus they payed blocking rights to keep certain games off of gamepass which is probably what Phil may be referring to. Imo that makes them slimey too if we're being honest. At the end of the day it's just business. There is no doubt in my mind that if sony could make huge purchases like Microsoft, they would. You probably won't see sony respond with an official statement because they know they are just as guilty.
"Sony paid to keep games off of Nintendo and sega back in day."
That's not actually true.
Nintendo (and Sega) had licensing of games exclusive to their system way before PlayStation even existed, and both used 3'rd party developers to make licensed games exclusively for their hardware.
You and Microsoft are literally trying to rewrite history.
To be fair here, Einhander, Phil didn't mention Sony by name with his comment, it was just implied.
That said, the practice goes all the way back to the "Nintendo Seal of Quality" that not only limited developers to publishing on NES, but also limited the number of games they could make per year to 5.
Nintendo did it, sega did it was business at the end of the day. Y'all people gotta stop rolling on the Sony did it back in the day nonsense. Always blaming someone and back in the day was back in the day stop going that far back in time.
You're creating a strawman here. Nobody claimed Sony didn't do that type of tactic. He specifically singled out CoD since that's what the whole topic and Phil's statement was about.
Don't be dishonest man
Regardless it's not about who done it first....it's about who is doing it now.
You do know that Xbox does the same thing right. Xbox blocks Sony, Sony blocks Xbox. Please stop crying about gamepass. Thats the root of the problem.
What examples do you have of this? I would argue there are none. Sony didn't pay a dime. Steve Race was the CEO of PlayStation under Olaf Olaffson at that time. Race learned from Sega (Tom Kalinski) how run a game company. SEGA didn't even buy devs off, you couldn't, you didn't have too because Nintendo was notorious for treating developers and publishers so badly. All you had to do in those days, was be respectful and treat people like humans, that built strong relationships and making things easy was what did it vs the Nintendo Ultra 64 was known for being difficult. I think it's that simple.
A prime example of this is Andy Gavin and Jason Reuben who started Naughty Dog. They originally wanted to develop for the Sega Saturn, Crash Bandicoot was almost on Sega as well but after they saw how complicated it was and how much easier the PlayStation was they opted to develop for PlayStation. And this was pre-Sony Acquisition. Sony didn't offer them any money, they were backed by Universal under former Sega employee and game developer Mark Cerny at that time. Eventually, you're probably right, but Sony didn't start sliding money Squares way. PlayStation built a platform that was undeniable. They were a clone of Sega but without all the SoA and SoJ drama, they got along better, but Race took everything he learned from Sega and applied it to PlayStation. I think Tom Kalinski was a little jealous of Race though, I think he wanted the job but Race may have spoken to Sony first and snuck in before Kalinski could have even been asked. Eventually, Sony did start playing that game, they all do, but it wasn't really needed just because PlayStation was so smart with their marketing and making it easy for developers. Remember, Nintendo was notorious for being difficult, possessive, shrewd, fanatical, and would sue for just about anything. They were tyrants but they had respect because Atari had killed the industry and to this day, Nintendo is still given respect solely because they brought gaming back and paved a trail for how to do business, at least mostly right in an industry where people had been shut down big time so, no matter who you are, you HAVE to give that respect to Nintendo. But, PlayStation, as they learned from Sega was developer relationships. Xbox doesn't have that and that's why you're not seeing PlayStation snapping up Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear IP to keep it on PlayStation is because PlayStation doesn't play that game as much of Xbox because Xbox has such deep pockets. If Sony played that game, you wouldn't see Final Fantasy on Xbox or Metal Gear at all or Sony would've boughten those IP. Sony is relying on long term relationships with publishers for loyalty, Xbox doesn't have that because they showed up much later
The first instance of this crap I remember is Soul Calibur II. GameCube got Link, Xbox had Yoda and PS2 had Darth Vader.
you are thinking Soul Calibur 4 for the SW characters. Soul Calibur 2 had Link (GC), Spawn (XB) and Heihachi (PS2). Then Soul Calibur 3 was exclusive to the PS2 while Soul Calibur 4 was on 360/PS3... no Nintendo version until Soul Calibur Legends for Wii.
Adding on to what darth said, Soulcalibur II HD came out later on PS3 (maybe Xbox 360 too?) and it included the PS2 exclusive character Heihachi and the Xbox exclusive fighter Spawn but unsurprisingly, Link wasn't included
Soul Calibur IV on Xbox had Yoda (hate fighting that short bastard) and PS3 had Darth Vader but each platform had the other fighter as paid DLC.
True... and yet the kind of 'exclusivity' MS paid for was usually timed. The same things would still come to the PS but when Sony does it they make it so what they pay for stays exclusive.
I get paying to get something sooner, but paying to keep others from ever getting it too... that shit is slimy AF.
"but paying to keep others from ever getting it too... that shit is slimy AF "
So than you agree the Act/Blizz and Zenimax deals are slimy AF becasue there are definitely former multi-plat games PlayStation gamers lost becasue of the aqusitions.
@romulus, the entire practice is slimy, no matter who does it. Especially if the games in question were initially mutliplat and then became paid exclusives through acquisitions or contractual obligations.
As far as I know, MS has not removed access to any existing games for PS gamers. You can probably look to ones that were initially announced but never released until after, those likely shouldnt count because they weren't existing games in franchises that were always multiplatform. We can look to games such as Street Fighter V as a good example of a game in a multiplatform series that suddenly became exclusive and other gamers lost out on. Same goes for Dead Rising 3. Both of which were some back alley deal made between Capcom and the platform holder which YES... those are slimy AF.
@Darth
"True... and yet the kind of 'exclusivity' MS paid for was usually timed. The same things would still come to the PS but when Sony does it they make it so what they pay for stays exclusive."
Like Dead Rising 3? 🤔
Can you blame Sony for paying for exclusives. Ms went and bought up 2 major publishers, many studios , alot of the wrpg market.
Are you as upset ps fans don't get to play Ms 3rd party exclusives as well
@shin... in the grand timeline of things... Sony paying for exclusives predates anything MS did since joining the club.
***As far as I know, MS has not removed access to any existing games for PS gamers.***
In what time frame? Recently? No. But, you know, they definitely have.
And why do we always goal post with 'removed access to any existing games' as if that's the only slimy thing these companies are doing, specifically the fact that Microsoft is buying up massive publishers to control where those games go just like Sony making agreements with third parties (who can say no, btw).
Did any of these companies you mention help pay for development? If they did then what’s the problem? Anything you say darth is just like phil its a90% garbage.
Phil says things but it's the actions of the company he runs that just nullifies all of his statements. You can't call a company slimy for using money to buy exclusives when you do the exact same thing by buying out studios and making their new games exclusives. At least up until the point you realize you're not selling enough and need to put them on that other platform to make the game studios stick around and exist.
There's a difference. Buying a studio you own the actual game. While the other you're just paying to purposely stop the game from releasing on another platform. When you actually own something you should have the right to do with it as you like. Not when you don't own it. And as other's have stated Sony did this back in the day before Microsoft ever made Xbox. It's why I laugh when people claim Sony creates stuff from the ground up. then get upset that Microsoft buys studios. When Sony did the same thing when they first started Playstation. And it's the same with people complaining about studios being shutdown and employees being released. when it's been happening all over the industry. the real issue is game development has jut got way out of hand. Games are too expensive and take way too long to make now a days. It's a whole industry issue.
***There's a difference. Buying a studio you own the actual game. While the other you're just paying to purposely stop the game from releasing on another platform.***
https://imgur.com/BOK3bhj
***When you actually own something you should have the right to do with it as you like. Not when you don't own it.***
You do know that the owners of a game AGREE to make it exclusive when they sign exclusive deals, right? Do you think Sony goes in with guns and forces them to do it or they die? The people who own the IP are still making the decision as to where it goes.
Yeah...I love how now that's a plus while also limiting IP from other platforms at the same time. What a bullshit slimy car salesman tactic.
Anyone with a brain or memory bigger than a pea can remember who started cod bs
Do you realise that Sony has been making exclusive 3rd party deals since the PS1 (even before the existence of Xbox)?
Claiming that Microsoft started exclusive 3rd party crap is just plain ignorance.
Wait are we pretending PlayStation didn't do paid third party exclusives before Microsoft? Now I've heard it all ...
I feel like it started before that. One can say that Soul Calibur II predates CoD deals with exclusive content for multiplatform games.
I don't really care "who started it" because they all do it, honestly. Just on the merits of hypocrisy, yeah, Spencer deserves to be handed his ass.
Phil was and is the right man for the company he is working for. Slimy..through and through. The Persons as well as the company itself.
Wow so you all really loved corporate scum like Jim Ryan then? All the games as a service projects and no backwards compatibility unless it's an overpriced remaster? And abandoning Twisted metal, resistance, syphon, getaway and all of the other IPs?
And if Phil is so bad why did the xbox showcase/the games he greenlit annihilate PS last presentation?
"You scared bro?"
No one is scared, have you seen the hardware/software sales from the most irrelevant gaming brand in the past 15 yrs aka the green brand...???
Their latest show was so ''AmAzInG'' that they'll be able to sell at least 40 more consoles/games and capture the attention of at least 6 more gamers around the planet...
Phil's a blowhard , and fk Jim Ryan to. I feel Jim's the reason sonys at were their at. Game wise. To say blew the lead is such and overstatement though lol. Ps is still killing Xbox.
Getting moist over a showcase really. ? let's take a short step in time to Redfall and it's epic showcase remembering the part how the AI adapts like never before and CrackDown with the power of " The Cloud "
Young chap it's advertising nothing more nothing less that power mop turbo in the advert will not clean your floor quicker
The fixation on Jim Ryan is a bit creepy I'm not gonna lie pass the phone back to your Dad...foot steps..
Hello you don't know me but that child of yours is showing an unhealthy fascination with an old man please contact child services. Like yesterday
@The Professional, Jim Ryan never portrayed himself to be the savor of gaming or act as if the company he works for was victimized by the evil competition like that chubby dope Philip Spencer. Lol. Ryan almost never talked yet here you are hating on him because the mindless masses told you to.
You xbox fans never learn, always running your mouth about Sony as soon as anything good happens for xbox. Yet after the games release and the sales results are shown, xbox stays dead last in both. It would be wise for you to hold off on the trash talking.
This is what’s wrong with you xbox fanboys. One dig at xbox and all you can see is that the person is a PS fanboy. There’s this thing called neutral where you are allowed to criticize both camps. Here I’ll bite, Jim Ryan is a d*ck for pushing the GaaS pivot within PS. Now’s your turn criticizing the slime Phil Spencer, go on.
Are you saying Astro bot is annihilated? How embarrassing🥴 you're a joke. The Xbox showcase was great. Well done Microsoft. But why does it need to be compared to a 30 minute state of play that was announced out of nowhere 2 days prior?
POS boss for a POS brand with POS fans, that's what xbox is.
So good to see them begging for Sony and Nintendo money and making all their games multiplatform, they are the ultimate losers and got what they deserve.
What trash you must be. Criticizing every fan of a brand you don't like. You're a great example of PS fans and bias. Anyone you don't agree with is wrong and stupid right? You must be a liberal.
I mean your a bit wrong to though lol. And of course just like a true repub, gotta resort to politics. Yall some straight crazy in the head mfs
"Critisizing every fan of a brand you don't like"
"You're a great example of PS fans and bias"
Oh the irony!!!
I was kind of with you, except for the hate in your words, until you said "liberal". What is it with "conservatives" and their anger? :P
Should it really have to be said? Great games are great games, no matter what platform they come out on. Being a loyalist makes no sense. I do give Sony (and Nintendo) a lot of credit for nurturing and growing their first party developers and putting out the great games they do. Sony seemed to loose their way for a few years, hopefully they are back on the right track. I have a gripe with Nintendo and Microsoft, but only on a couple of issues. Nintendo selling us cheap hardware and thereby holding their games back and Microsoft for holding back this generation with Series S. I just want great games with hardware manufacturer supporting them by giving them the most power possible so developers can keep pushing gameplay. There's still so much more powerful hardware can offer us other than just graphical fidelity.
'You must be a liberal'
Hilarious when you're the one in the replies acting like a 'triggered snowflake' lol.
I'm no liberal, but I'll take someone thinking I'm stupid for disagreeing over actually enforcing policies dismantling reproductive rights and hypocritically crying about the victim mentality coming out of identity politics... But that's another discussion.
You realize that being a fan of something inherently means you have some sort of bias, right? Show me anyone without bias and I'm show you a liar, mate.
Jim Ryan is literally corporate scum who doesn't play games. Enjoy Concord.
Weren't you just calling out someone else about how demonizing people is bad. Here you are thiugh
Why do you keep bringing up Jim Ryan like anyone is defending him? lol he ain't even part of the discussion. He can kick rocks too. But you acting real hurt like Spencer is your daddy or somethin.
Phil Spencer surely must have the world record in the amount of times a CEO can put his foot in his mouth throughout his career. I honestly wonder why Microsoft even lets him do interviews at all at this point.
He's a nightmare to PR guys like me. The kind of boss that wont stick to the briefing deck and most likely to say the wrong shit or stir unnecessary shit up that will get the Comms team blamed for it.
Tommy Tallerico still holds the record for stupid interviews and comments. If you don't know what happened with the Amico its a fascinating tale of pure lies and idiocy. But yeah, Spencer is second place, perhaps one day, he'll even top Tommy.
Phil spencer says what he does because the shill access media will do all the spinning for him. The major companies own the mainstream media .
Phil Spencer is the most dishonest and two faced person in the industry.
And the sad thing is he lies right to Microsoft fans faces and they thank him for it. And then expect everyone else to thank him too.
But he dresses casually and sometimes wears a leather jacket and claims to be a gamer so he cant be all that bad right? /s
Personally, I think he's most honest when he wears a logo t-shirt under his business suit jacket.
/s
Why don't u stay off xbox articles my friend u obviously have a agenda to spread negative vibes on every xbox article if it riles the 52 yr u up so bad my friend stay off the articles
You have a problem with him telling the truth about Phil where everything can be proven that Phil's a lier, misleads and has done nothing for the Xbox brand except kill the brand? So much so that they had to buy up publishers to stay competitive but still be in 3rd place?
The smell of irony is hilarious here 🤣 I mean....it IS slimy, imo, BUT.....Xbox is the one who did ALLL of this during 360 era, which Phil is all too familiar with. Xbox is just BIG mad that they got crushed at their own game so they picked up their ball and went home. Cried to daddy big bucks to fight back because they don't know how to make good games. Convinced daddy to buy the playground.
"Responding to one such article posted on X/Twitter, Layden posted a GIF of actor Will Arnett doing a laughing spit take, clearly showing how he feels about the comment."
Miss that man.
No I don't have a problem with truth u all seem to, sony very guilty of underhanded dealings as well but we wo t mention them I have problem with him on every article spouting negative shit and blatant lies at times
Phil Spencer : Timed exclusive = bad. Buying a multiplatforms studio to make their games exclusive = good
OK...
Okay when sony pay to keep games of other platforms both are bad as each other not taking side it's a shit practice from them both
There is no (real) proof of this. Except for Phil Spencer, who says so without offering any proof either.
The truth lies more in the fact that Series consoles don't sell well, and publishers look twice before releasing a game. Especially since Gamepass has drastically changed consumer habits on this medium (including my own).
Maybe it's just me but it feels pretty slimy to buy up half the industry in an effort to take games away from people playing on the competing platform. Spencer needs to take a long look in a mirror.
How can this be considered news? The story consists solely of a single GIF image without any mentions, replies, hashtags, or additional context.
The story is about the response Shawn Layden made on X to a ridiculous comment Spencer made in a recent public interview with IGN, there's plenty of context.
Do you have any evidence that his response was to Phil Spencer on June 10th? Or could it be a reaction to Trump's first speech since the verdict? Maybe it's a response to David Jaffe's comment?
Without specific words, hashtags, or replies to other users or previous tweets clarifying the context, the only basis you have is an assumption and assumption does not constitute news. If you wish to disprove this, please present the evidence.
i think with a little common sense it's easy enough to figure out, pretty sure a former game company CEO responding in the way he did shortly after Spencer's hypocritical comment had nothing to do with Trump or Jaffe and you know it. "Without specific words, hashtags, or replies to other users or previous tweets" you cant confirm that it wasn't directed at Spencer either but if you have any specific evidence as to who or what it was directed at please feel free to present your evidence. Or you could stop being deliberately obtuse and just deal with the fact that this was most likely a response to Spencer's nonsense comment.
"you cant confirm that it wasn't directed at Spencer either but if you have any specific evidence as to who or what it was directed at please feel free to present your evidence."
Hence why, it's an assumption.
As I said, an assumption is not equivalent to news, just as an assumption in court does not constitute evidence.
Now I'm not saying the reaction can't be legit but a NEWS article? well...
It sounds like Microsoft pretty much hired Phil Spencer to destroy the company and its gaming division.
Both require accounts to play = Forcing gamers play games a certain way. Spencer needs to take the foot out of his mouth. Go back to your padded cell dude.
but buying out major companies and planing ion making the games exclusive is?
giril is the biggest bullshitter in the industry.
he should be very hush hush cause xbox under his leadership is failing in a big way.
guy needs to be humbled.
i knew it wouldnt take him long to take shots at others again.
Ms did have a better showcase and PS seems like they keeping games from us for something else and I'm a PS fan. At the end of the day it's just games and entertainment
Phil Spencer is such a hypocrite, god I can't this guy wish that fat sob would just go away. I see comments in this comment section regarding "who did it first" nonsense. Doesn't matter, Microsoft/ Phil Spencer are the only ones who have been peddling this "we're the good guys, they're the evil corporation who hates gamers" nonsense every chance they can get. No other platform holder/publisher publically pretends to be anything other than a corporation. Hilarious watching a 3 trillion dollar plus corporation play the victim of big bad Sony.
@ einheinder1972
I think you heed to do some research. Sony signed a deal with Eidos to keep console version of Tom Raider off of sega and Nintendo consoles. You may not believe it but it's a fact. Not saying Mictosoft is innocent but saying people saying they started this is BS.
Phil don’t you have enough drama as it is?? You had one good show in the past 15 years. Now you wanna talk about your s**t don’t stink. The PlayStation beast please do it!!! Let’s get back to those crash bandicoot commercials. F*ck peace we bout to crash out.
It was really the Betheda and Activision show he bought and attached yo Xbox to make it look good.
I hate Phil Spencer with a passion. He couldn't make it in politics so he's doing it in gaming.
Hate him for what. He hasn't taken any games from ps gamers. It's not his fault that the company he works for is richer than the other. If you don't like, play or own an xbox what the big deal?
You guys gotta decide on something. First people say Phil isn't doing anything for xbox and then turn around and say I hate him because he is too pro xbox. It doesn't make any sense.
Do you hate him with a passion when he gives sony props when they release a good game?Something he has done many times.
If you hate this man or any other person in a similar position just for doing his job you probably need to find another hobby. Sony doesn't own gaming Industry. It's a free market. Microsoft hasn't done anything illegal to get to where they are with xbox. So why all the hate?
'He hasn't taken any games from ps gamers.'
Are you just purposely ignoring the several cancelled PS5 versions of in-development games that was proven in the court documents?
Remains to be seen with their recent pivots, but starfield, indy etc all had their PS5 versions dropped when Phil came along.
I could be wrong but wasn’t PlayStation trying to pay for Starfield exclusivity? That’s kinda a reap what you sow thing with that one.
Kinda like when you’re a kid and your losing a game so you say “this game is dumb, im gonna play something else”.
Lmao this is what I expected to see here in the comments 😭😭😭
Hurt dogs hollering 😂😂😂 29315;🤣🤣
So you guys gunna argue over which company is more slime? It’s like choosing the lesser of two evils…
Now repeat after me, class. Corporations are not our friends and don't care about us. If they're acting like they do it is only in the interest of their bottom line.
This goes for SONY, NINTENDO, MICROSOFT, EXXON MOBIL, WELLS FARGO, LITERALLY ALL OF THEM.
Coming from the company that took Halo from Apple, tried to buy Nintendo, hid a huge hardware issue, bought and basically destroyed Rare, refuses to release actual sales numbers and just recently dropped almost 80 billion dollars buying half the gaming industry.
A good friend worked for MS until last month. He quit because he was told that even though his performance was stellar, the current economic climate was not good enough for him to get a raise.
This is coming from a multi-trillion dollar company. Slimy enough for you?
Correct.
crazy thing, If you call out their biased views they start the blame game and all that bull. I’m convinced that there’s literal propaganda in PS games making them hate Microsoft at this point cause there’s no way you come away from the recent information revealed about these companies Especially Sony… and don’t agree with what Phill said.
I fucking hate exclusivity… it’s just another way of saying exclusion and I fucking hate it. 1st party’s I get but 3rd party is fucking lame. If I had it my way there would be no exclusives everything would be day date across all platforms.
But that’s a dream.
thats because the industry is mostly made up of playstation fans, its not a website thing,
as sony owns a larger percentage of the market, expect fans comments to reflect that.
Yep, the Xbox zealots on twitter and the likes of obscure on here maybe be the loudest, but there are way more PS players in general on most sites, due to them selling way more systems.
"Powa of Da Cloud" - Nothing came out of that
"World's most powerful console. 12 teraflops of Power" - PS5 Basically trades blows with it on multiplatform games and kills it with their first party games
"We're focusing on building world class 1st party studios" - Yeah, I guess by his definition is forking out money and buying studios.
"Xbox top selling console" - When they're selling well
"Hardware sales numbers are not important" - He downplays the importance of hardware numbers when they're not selling well.
The amount of PR and damage control and excuses is laughable. Phil would definitely be suited to join the team at Apple.
Not to do slimy platform things like buy the publosher because you saw your competition brokered a deal for two exclusive games.
Or buy a major third party public Because you have no ips
Or shutdown studios after you Harvest their IP
Or making a statement about gaming communities and cleaning that your ownership of a publisher won't impact it
Or end a generation early because you're losing like the og Xbox and now xsx
Oh and let's not forget they had the exact same exclusivity deal with Activision and cod during the Xbox 360 days with map packs going to Xbox for 1 month before PlayStation 3 along with marketing right and compitition rights
Like wanting to beat your competitors to market so desperately you ship a console with a 60% failure rate
Oh and I almost forgot games for windows live
Bro we are in the year 2024. Get your head out of the past and into the present. If it were Sony trying to change the landscape for the better (because let’s admit it, the shit Phill said is for the better of all of us across all platforms) like this you would be applauding and jerking your best Sony bud to the news.
Please kill your biases and let’s all push these companies to be better.
Xbox is becoming better. Sony is good already but they should be held accountable for the recent practices they admitted to during the whole FTC thing.
Come on man literally paying not for exclusivity, but to keep games off of a rival platform… like these deals were literally worded this way. Marketing things as exclusives that aren’t which Microsoft is guilty of too. Last but not least exclusive content for multi platform games like bro that shit is not cool. Shit some of this content took years not months years to come to the other platform.
That is scum of the earth type shit. It also doesn’t benefit anyone.
But yea I guess it’s fuck Microsoft for the past but Sony is free to fuck us all in the present.
You know I agree if there's no strong competiton for Sony they will exploit their gamers the above was simply calling out the hypocrisy of Phil's statement and the fact they are cutting the 9th gen short and trying to launch the 10th gen early isn't because they want to give gamers the best hardware it's because they are in last place and want to get the jump on the competition like they did with the 360.
For the record I'm not really pro Sony I own a ps5 and I was a huge fan throughout their early years until the PS3 when I became a bit more critical of them because they've broken promises and screwed around their own customers just as much especially when they are on top. If anything I've spent more money on buying games for the switch over the last year than the ps5 I'd call myself a multi plat gamer.
If Phil kept his word everything would be cool or if he just didn't say anything at all and operated like Nintendo announce something when it's time it would be fine. But they just keep trying to take over the industry through buyouts and shady moves then turn around and say the Sony era modern warfare deal was slimy is massively hypocritical
It's Crazy how everyone defends one company or another.. They're just companies using whatever tactic to get you to spend money. At the end of the day it's supposed to be a hobby not a team sport!
Every company big or small will try to guile you into spending. Look at all the gaming equipment sitting in your house, all of those purchases, gifts whatever, all the "companies" have used some sort of ploy to get you on their platform and they will throw everything at you to keep you on a platform.
If exclusivity isn't your thing maybe PC would be better for you.
I've grown up since the Commodore 64 days and have watched gaming evolve from something nerds did to mainstream entertainment.
It's these articles have been around since gaming began. Clickbait company rage fuel articles.
They're literally just another way to stoke the game platform debate going, especially in light of all the big players releasing their upcoming game footage and visions for the future.
Unless you have shares in the companies who really cares ! Just inform yourself, look up what you like and buy that. Always remember though the "companies" are always watching..............
Honestly, I never really liked Shawn Layden. I'm a Jacky T. fan myself. But, Layden has been pretty outspoken as of late, moreso than any other former CEO of PlayStation. Tretton seems to have moved on in his mobile gaming advisory role (which is a total waste of talent and experience, if you ask me but maybe he's just trying to coast in to retirement after all his stress filled days at PlayStation. But you gotta look back and say, if you're him: Look at how I turned all of that around and look at what PlayStation took back. Now, Jimmy Ryan boy has redirected it all back toward the crapper and I don't have much faith in Hulst and his co-CEO, it's not gonna be like it was in the PS4 days) but Layden wasn't around very long, didn't really do much of anything, honestly, and wanted to coast on the success of all the hard work before him and Jim Ryan wasn't any better, but for throwing in the towel so early and doing so very little, he doesn't have much room to talk or much of a platform to get to say much of anything. Layden does look like he might have some autism though, which could be a developmental issue in his growing up behavior. He just seems like he might have some autism. Either way, Dude, you weren't at PlayStation long enough to make any kind of a fingerprint in the CEO role. It seems you're only real contribution on your resume was you brought Mortal Kombat to Japan. Big whoop. Eh, nah, I don't really like this guy either. Bring back Papa Jack!!!! Jack Tretton for CEO!!
I see the arguments in the comments about who did it first and all I can say is it's a waste of time to argue about who was first. I feel like the issue is he is calling out Sony for something Microsoft used to do themselves and still does.
Phil Spencer don't want to do "slimy platform things to force gamers to play games a certain way"
First off...no one and i mean absolutely no one is forcing Phil Spencer or Microsoft to do anything to include "slimy platform things".
2nd...Phil is on record saying he don't wanna do " slimy things" yet he has no issues forcing Xbox users to look at slimy full screen ads on every boot up. Now that's as slimy as one can get! Imo
3rd... The "Slimy platform things" comment is what LOSERS say when they don't get their way in fact its akin to South Parks Eric Cartman when he doesn't get his way and says to Kenny, Kyle and Stan....."screw you guys I'm going home"!
Spencer and Microsoft are frustrated and pissed that they can't force Sony and Nintendo (especially Sony) and it's gamers "to play games a certain way, that way....THE MICROSOFT WAY!
Yet Phil Spencer and Microsoft don't want to do them Slimy things" but they don't see the irony of just how slimy making that "slimy platform things" comment in public really is.
Just my opinion but Microsoft is the absolute worst thing to ever happen in gaming and if they jumped out of gaming today gaming would be in a better place tomorrow.
I doubt Phil Spencer went out of his way to wear thousands of T-shirts just for this, plus why would someone want a second hand T-shirt.
Steelbook :(
I am so excited, there is a new t-shirt on the market!
nice shirt lol
Not too into the shirt to be honest. I would rather have the actual battletoads cover on a shirt. But oh well. I'll be getting this game for sure.