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Nintendo throws shade at Sony, Microsoft while defending its E3 presence

GamesBeat writes that Nintendo's Miyamoto and Iwata took the time to defend the company's E3 Digital Event and show floor presence, but the publisher also had a bit of criticism for Sony and Microsoft for showing off so many far-off games in video form only.

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Aloy-Boyfriend3646d ago (Edited 3646d ago )

Still Damage controlling I see. Just shut up!

Sony and MS had a better show than you, Nintendo. even if you had playable demos of games no one asked or no one wanted, Horizon Zero Dawn look more promising than some game with the Metroid name on it and the graphically-outdated-with-gimm icki-controls Star Fox. The only thing that may come close is Xenoblade, which is a game I'm anticipating. Everything else was crap.

And here's the thing. Both showed more promising titles for their console than Nintendo did for Wii U. Nintendo isn't really the one that should be talking about promises when they showed so little about Wii U and are starting to focus on NX, which is still years away

remixx1163646d ago (Edited 3646d ago )

The Nintendo fan in me hates to say but you are 100% correct.

MS and Sony had the best conferences at E3....him toss a Lil Bethesda and squeenix in there too.

Nintendo's was just hard to watch....I mean damn.....the whole Muppets thing was a joke and just seemed like a distraction from the issue of their conference.

Not to mention the whole metroid thing has me pissed and all of my hype for star fox went out the window with that incredibly "meh" gameplay trailer, plus the lack of Zelda didn't help either.

My Wii U is starting to look like my 360 did.....except without the multiplats...

I'll take horizon zero dawn, halo 5, the last guardian, shenmue 3, street fighter V, gears 4, FF7 remake, dreams, nier, worlds of final fantasy and sea of thieves over anything at that Ninty conference....... Hell I had more fun watching the horizon gameplay trailer than I did the entire Nintendo stream.

Not to mention the bethesda, sqeenix, and ubi conferences don't even apply to Ninty....

_-EDMIX-_3646d ago

"I'll take horizon zero dawn, halo 5, the last guardian, shenmue 3, street fighter V, gears 4, FF7 remake, dreams, nier, worlds of final fantasy and sea of thieves over anything at that Ninty conference"

Agreed and thats the whole issue. They are not trying to convince those gamers to NOT play those new ideas and exciting games, but play their party games instead.

Its not just Sony and MS, its Square, EA, Ubisoft etc, when they release amazing new IPs, For Honor, Ghost Recon's new entry etc, its not just against PS and XB, its now against all the other companies making games.

Nintendo's revivals are not just those 2, its MOST of gaming. When you buy a Wii U, you are also making a choice to not buy MANY of those 3rd party games. (unless you own both clearly)

Every year, the choice will become harder and harder, spend 300 plus on a Wii U and a game vs like 5 games coming out that fall. (if you already own a PS4 or XONE anyway).

No Wii U game, to PC, PS4 or XONE owners is worth giving up 5 games during the fall JUST to have.

uptownsoul3646d ago (Edited 3646d ago )

"[Nintendo]had a bit of criticism for Sony and Microsoft for showing off so many far-off games" -- What? Xenoblade Chronicles X was first revealed at a Nintendo Direct in 2013 & it doesn't come out till end of 2015. And Zelda was revealed at Nintendo's E3 Treehouse thing in 2014 and that game won't come before 2016…So what were you saying about "far-off" Big N???

Kingthrash3603646d ago (Edited 3646d ago )

Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo .....
Didn't they show Zelda at the reveal of the wiiu??(spider battle) Where is it because it wasn't even at this e3. Yeah it was at last e3but it wasn't even the one that they showed off in the reveal....honestly I'd rather have that one. They want to defend their wakk e3 showing...and criticize Sony/ms haveing far off games.. I mean Zelda was shown a year before xboxone and ps4 and it still doesn't even have a release window for gods sake! Please Nintendo understand that when you want to talk about others be aware of what you have done...Zelda metroid hasn't even came out but you are already talking about a new console (nx) .
Smh I'm face palming so hard I can feel the back of my head right now.

GordonKnight3646d ago

@remixx116

Yes, MS & Sony did have better conference. It was like Nintendo didn't even take it seriously this year. It made me feel like they didn't want to give anyone a new reason to purchase a Wii U. With that said I'm still excited to own my Wii U.

Horizon Zero Dawn was best game at the show IMO, this game will change gaming. Also, I'm excited for the rest of the games you listed. halo 5, the last guardian, shenmue 3, street fighter V, gears 4, FF7 remake, dreams, nier.

I'm just glad my TV has enough HDMI inputs for my PS4, X1, & Wii U.

Crimzon3646d ago

Honestly, this is why Nintendo should stop making home consoles and become a third party developer that releases their games on PlayStation & Xbox.

I know people have scoffed at the idea for a long time but let's be real here, Nintendo simply does not have a regular enough output of games to support a home console, and as time passes more and more people are coming to realize this and lose faith in Nintendo hardware.

Does Nintendo make great games? Sure, but they're few and far between, and the issue only becomes worse when you take into account the lack of third party support on their consoles as well. It's going to be exactly the same with the NX because Nintendo refuses to hire more staff to speed up game development, and won't create new studios, so it will only get worse as new and more powerful hardware puts an even greater strain on their limited resources.

Nintendo already made a big deal about how difficult it was developing HD games for the Wii U, and now they expect people to throw down money on their next console? Any customers would be lucky to get a single game from Nintendo every two or three years at this rate.

lunatic00013646d ago (Edited 3646d ago )

i agree that nintendo had the weakest press conference but what i give credit is that they had alot of their fist party games playable while tomb raider and halo 5 were no where to be seen at the ms booth not to mention uncharted and the last guardian should have been playable as well but nope..just videos of someone playing it...at least i got cool shirts and pins but these games are coming out end of year or next year which means they have been in development for a while...no excuse for them to not be playable especially last guardian...it wasnt even a video of someone actually playing it...it was literally a pre recorded video...but agree ms and sony did get me hyped of games that are ways off

donthate3646d ago

I give Nintendo credit for trying, but I don't they should be talking about other people's show.

I hope there is still chance Nintendo will make a comeback with Wii U or NX. ;D

ShinMaster3646d ago (Edited 3646d ago )

They keep saying that it's OUR fault that we "don't understand" the Wii U and its appeal.

Are you kidding me, Nintendo.

bouzebbal3646d ago

i love Nintendo but they disappointed me so much at this e3. I think they are showing a very arrogant face lately and i don't think it will play in their favor.

Lightning Mr Bubbles3645d ago (Edited 3645d ago )

@_-EDMIX-_

Holy shit EDMIX, I didn't understand you at all.

Lightning Mr Bubbles3645d ago (Edited 3645d ago )

For real EDMIX, I have no idea what you wrote, I mean it seems you're saying bad things about Nintendo and good things about the other guys.

That's about all I understood.

BillytheBarbarian3645d ago

Nintendo caters to 10 year olds. Pushing Japanese sesame street down our throats is going to eventually push them into being a 3rd party publisher which wouldn't be a bad thing.

guitarded773642d ago

@remixx

Any gaming fan should be critical when it's needed. That's what keeps the industry evolving. Nintendo have a lot of work to do.

I think being a fan of a company is not the same as being a fan of gaming. Sometimes companies do things right, and sometimes they do things wrong. They're all guilty.

Nintendo is hiding behind the "They show too many far off games" statement because either they don't have anything to show. They probably have half of their development teams working on their next gen launch games.

I wouldn't be surprised if Zelda was a no show because they're working on getting it dual-get like Twilight Princess. I could be wrong of course, but it just really has me scratching my head as to why they're not gonna show their most anticipated game.

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gedden73646d ago

Im a hardcore Nintendo fan I agree with you!!! Nintendo E3 SUCKED!!!!!

Kingdomcome2473646d ago (Edited 3646d ago )

Yeah, I'm very surprised that they continue to make backhanded remarks regarding Microsoft and Sony. It feels as though they're more concerned with pointing out what they perceive to be flaws in Microsoft's and Sony's strategies than they are with rectifying their own shortcomings. This is a new look for Nintendo as far as their posturing is concerned, and I've got to say, it's not a good look. I have a lot of respect for Ninty, but I've got to say that they are the only one out of the big three this year that were seemingly unable to muster up the humility or the class to congratulate the competition on their press conferences. I don't think that either Iwata or Reggie are what Nintendo needs going forward, as they look to transition to the NX over the next few years. I truly hope that I'm wrong, though.

OhMyGandhi3646d ago (Edited 3646d ago )

I don't understand the whole "We only show games that we plan to release soon, and get into the customers' hands" mentality. I don't care WHEN the game comes out if it appeals to me. It's the IDEA of the game, the promise of a fun time, and it allows the fans to acknowledge that something they like may be on the horizon. If I knew, or there was even the faintest hint of a beautifully rendered 3d Metroid title in the works, or a 3d, open world Pokemon game along the lines of Monster Hunter, I don't care if it comes out next year or two years after that. It's called having a long term plan, Nintendo, and if you fear for one second that you can't substantiate long term prospects within your own gaming ecosystem, then that creates a huge wave of doubt to both present and future Nintendo customers.

By the way, wasn't it Miyamoto that stated, "“A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever"? Just because these games are a long time in the making, and a still a ways away from release doesn't mean that the company isn't every bit as competent as one that likes to release something "right away".

Trekster_Gamer3646d ago

Nintendo at E3 was laughable.

They are the LAST who should dinegrate or try to give advice to. They would be better off getting out of the hardware business and just make games for the superior consoles.

3-4-53646d ago

* Nintendo is my favorite video game company, but I can't stand to see them do this to themselves.

* They need to be grown men & women and admit to their faults, mistakes, and then move forward with the NX.

* I wouldn't make a single new game for the Wii U

* Keep all the games for NX, so when it releases, there are like 20-30 games day one.

Games sell consoles. If NX ships with a huge library of actual good games people want to play, then Nintendo will gain back respect and fans.

* Nintendo I love you.....but just stop talking for a bit and go make some really awesome games for the NX.

Kingdomcome2473646d ago

I agree that they need a stellar launch lineup, but I don't think that they want the backlash that comes with completely abandoning the WiiU only 3 years in, and effectively shafting the core fan base that rode it out with them during the WiiU's rocky life cycle. It's a tough situation, no doubt. You don't neccessarily want a bunch of cross gen games either as you lose a lot of the incentive to upgrade, and also have to navigate fully taking advantage of new hardware without being hampered by the old hardware. They have some tough decisions ahead, and I don't envy the position that they're in. I hope that they knock it out of the park, though.

NintendoSonyfan3643d ago

Wii U released with about 30 games and it did not help. I agree you need a good lineup of games, but quality is better than quantity. PS1 had a handful of games at launch but they were mostly awesome games.

JCOLE131953646d ago

Absolutely agree. Nintendo needs to wise up.

Get_A_Job_Foxtrot3646d ago

If Iwata and Reggie are still defensive and refuse to see how badly their E3 was done, as well as the bad management of Wii U, then why the hell should I expect things to change when the NX is released?

Nintendo (under Iwata) has been doing terribly enough; while Playstation has been around long enough, for me to say that (for me) PlayStation is the new Nintendo. When Iwata and Reggie go, then I'll care again about Nintendo.

frostypants3646d ago

Is it weird that I've kind of forgotten that Nintendo even has a system anymore?

Loadedklip3646d ago

"Everything else was crap" ....

Super Mario Maker
Zelda Triforce
Fire Emblem Fates
Fatal Frame

Look ... I agree they are doing damage control when they should actually be apologizing. But they did in fact have a handful of great games outside of Xenoblade.

It's just unfortunate that not enough are for the Wii U and we knew about most of these before.

Sounds fair?

RedTriangle533646d ago

All the games you listed are gimmicks made to milk a franchise(except fatal frame maybe, haven't heard of it). They look incredibly uninteresting, could just as well have been a crappy painting game with pokemon stickers in it.

killacal133646d ago

Ok, the only thing that is going to happen is that they will completely stop supporting the Wii U, that is until people forget about it, and then when things are calm they will fully unveil the Nx, in that moment, which will probably be in about a year or two they will anounce a release date, as soon as it releases,Sony and Microsoft will obviously out perform Nintendo's platform, and the cycle continues.

Blueraven3163645d ago

Kidtendo is jealous. Maybe if they'd stop rehashing the same games and make a system 3rd parties like. They wouldn't be in this situation

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Hoffmann3646d ago

Eh..its time that these two oldtimers slowly dissapear from the Nintendo headquaters and make place for people that are more in touch with the time and also their possible audience.

Spyroo3646d ago

Especially Reggie. Can't stand that dude, he's just a damage controlling PR machine and very Hypocriticial many times.

fallacious3646d ago

His body will never be ready again.

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OzzY-waZZy3646d ago

These guys are at the point of doing more harm than good. No more pay cuts, just resign and make room for a new generation.

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SmokingMonkey3646d ago (Edited 3646d ago )

Teasing new games that are set out to come out this generation, on this gen of systems is a good thing IMO. Big AAA titles need longer times to produce Hype/Preorders.

Teasing your NeXt console in the middle of your current gen console...is a terrible idea.

Why couldn't they just show Zelda for one second! One Second! It is almost a sure thing for this next Zelda to repeat what Twilight Princess did. It will be on the Wiiu and will be a launch title for the NX.

"WE know everyone is eagerly anticipating the Next Zelda, and we appreciate your patience. Here is a quick video to show our progress on one of the most Iconic video game characters Ever! Thank You and Enjoy!"

Roll 5 second video of Link doing a spin move.

Nintendo's 2015 E3 is instantly more digestible, and they avoid all these apologies.

How hard was that?!

I hope the NX blows me away...wont hold my breath.

_-EDMIX-_3646d ago

I love how they make it seem like as if stating it won't be revealed next year some how means something LMFAO!

The fact that its being revealed at all next year is enough to make someone not buy a Wii U right now.

Sony pretty much won E3 this year and 2015 might as well be the place holder for best event held by a company until they are topped lol.

Though MS event had a lot of less, they still had games that I would still play, ReCore, Ion, Sea Of Thieves, Cuphead, Gears Ultimate etc but 4 out of 5 of that list I can just get on PC, but I'm still paying MS money when I'm getting them on PC (Gears and Sea Of Thieves anyway).

Nintendo showed nothing at E3 that would make me want a Wii U and none of their 3DS games wowed me. (I own a 3DS and won't get any of the games shown).

Instead....they throw out some party games.

gangsta_red3646d ago

"The fact that its being revealed at all next year is enough to make someone not buy a Wii U right now."

Exactly, the fact is the WiiU is on its way out. Doesn't matter when, we all know that in the next two years the WiiU will be obsolete.

Sony and MS showed upcoming titles that will be released next year, this year and beyond. Nintendo showed a party game and Tennis...I hardly call that a strong showing and any reason to run out and buy a WiiU.

We know that Zelda is coming, but what happens after that?

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai17d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7217d ago (Edited 17d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX17d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK17d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog17d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor17d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje17d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra17d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje17d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac17d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex17d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje17d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter15d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake17d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos17d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8617d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos17d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8617d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr16d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8616d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2317d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos17d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker17d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg17d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake17d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr16d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B17d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Nintendo Has Confirmed It Will Be Attending GamesCom 2025

Company skipped last year's event.

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Obscure_Observer37d ago

Not surprising at all.

I mean, they´ll be releasing a new console in a few weeks.

repsahj35d ago

I hope they show new Switch 2 exclusive games.

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Nintendo Predicts to Sell 15 Million Switch 2 by March 2026; Switch Has Sold 152.12 Million Units

Nintendo has announced its financial results for the full fiscal year, alongside an update to Nintendo Switch shipments and more data, including a prediction for Switch 2 hardware and software.

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gold_drake48d ago

well, the switch 2 has two holidays in the us, thanksgiving and Christmas.

so id say its fairly possible. the rest of the world will also grab them

Abriael48d ago

Yeah doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility as long as they have enough supply.

Si-Fly48d ago

Do people buy each other games consoles for Thanksgiving? I’m in Europe and always assumed it was just Christmas where gifts were exchanged.

Skate-AK48d ago

I don't think it's so much Thanksgiving, but that Black Friday is the day after.

darthv7248d ago (Edited 48d ago )

That time is often referred to as the start of the Xmas shopping season. For the last few years, retailers would do 'black Friday' deals at various times throughout the year. While many still prefer to start their shopping in the mid to late November, others will just buy when they feel the time (and prices) are right for them.

gold_drake47d ago

i guess its more black friday, should have been more clear ha

GotGame81847d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Thanksgiving kicks off the Christmas Holiday.

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Agent7548d ago

Switch and Switch are a different kettle of fish. A sell out at launch by the diehards, strong sales, then the non diehards will be put off by the £75 ($99) games, including the stupid download cards which are topping £65 ($85). Not rocket science to work out how the Switch 2 is going to pan out. The PS5 has sold well, but games at £70, sales have been low. As game sales drop, prices will rise. Sony could knock out all their games for £40 and still make a killing selling more games. There's no denying that a gaming crash is looming.

Rancegamerx48d ago

I agree, I don't see the Switch 2 selling anywhere near the numbers that these predictions suggest or what the general buzz is implying. While the initial sales will likely be strong, driven by diehard fans, I anticipate a gradual decline. It may not drop off immediately, but over time, sales will inevitably taper.

PRIMORDUS48d ago

Not paying for something that's not worth more than the price it was advertised, which is $449 - $499.

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