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Sony: Project Morpheus is ‘not a peripheral’ but a New ‘platform’

Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE) both impressed and disappointed when it came to virtual reality (VR) technology at the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) last week. The company showcased around 20 videogames for its Project Morpheus head-mounted display (HMD) for PlayStation 4, but spent less than three minutes talking about the device at its massive press conference on 15th June. Despite this, the company insists that it is committed to VR. In fact, SCE doesn’t think of Project Morpheus as a simple peripheral for PlayStation 4, but rather a whole new platform for the device.

bunt-custardly3641d ago

A "new platform" which requires an "older platform" to function.

Brazz3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

we don't know for sure...

perhaps you are correct and Morpheus ends up as a "platform which requires other platform" to be used, or perhaps...

Morpheus can become a plataform that can emulate 60" tvs/monitors for normal games, tv shows and movies, or perhaps, it can connect to Ps now and do things like netflix and playstation vue as a stand alone product...

we still don't know what we will see in the final morpheus, but i bet it will do much more than just be a "VR visor" for Ps4.

for price point, my call is $350 for a morpheus that can emulate 60" tvs and do all the stuff i listed.
think about it, for $350 you have somethig close to a 60" inches tv that you can put in your bedroom for personal use!

LifeInNZ3641d ago

Agree with everything you say...but as a parent with 4 kids who are also in to gaming its just not practical. Just like 3D was not practical in my household.

breakpad3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

if that platform wont reach 50 million in sales and a huge library of quality games i m not thinking of buying it at all

freshslicepizza3641d ago

does it require the ps4 to work? if it does then it is indeed a peripheral. i really want to try it out for myself.

BitbyDeath3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

It doesn't need PS4 to work, however it is launching their first. PC support comes after that.

AndrewLB3641d ago

They're calling it a "new platform" in order to justify the price tag because $350 for a "peripheral" device probably wasn't well received by the people participating in their marketing focus group. Morpheus is a peripheral device, regardless of what their marketing department wants to call it.

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fr0sty3641d ago

@Life

Unless that game involves you strapping into the VR world and your 4 kids grabbing controllers and trying their best to mess you up.

Think of a game like Evolve, the 4 players on the screen could be the humans, the VR person the beast.

There are all kinds of cool multiplayer experiences you could craft using that combo... and it would be couch multiplayer, not internet, which is honestly something gaming needs more of these days anyway.

Omegasyde3641d ago

I am thinking 300-499 range.

The 3d personal viewer (newest) is 1000$ usd but is 3d capable as well.

http://store.sony.com/WFS/S...

wsoutlaw873641d ago

@timotim then your ps4 is just a tv peripheral by that definition. Also the morpheus is a vr headset so I could possibly connect to a lot of devices.

bouzebbal3641d ago

People really have problems understanding basic things.
Sony said it's a new platform but not a new console (to answer the top post).

OT: Morpheus is a new platform, PS Move was a new platform with its own dev kits. I prefer it to be a heavily supported peripheral rather than what we have seen.
The VR hype didn't grab me yet (unlike 3D or motion controls) so if they wanna make me buy their new platform they better show heavy involvment and opening new studios just for that. VR is a very solo experience and i almost never play games alone.

UltraNova3641d ago

Guys I believe what that guy from Sony tried to say is that Morpheus will be supported as if its an entirely new platform i.e. aggressively and actively and not as another 'come and go' peripheral like Ps move, kinect etc.

Lets not over-complicate things for no reason.

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Army_of_Darkness3640d ago

As much as excited for Morpheus, it's not another platform until it can function on its own without the ps4.
I think Sony is only saying that to justify the high price tag that's going to be in store for us....

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pcz3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

its just a way to make it more marketable.

they cant call it a peripheral because nobody would be willing to pay the inevitable hundreds of pounds it will cost, for a peripheral.

if they call it a new platform, the product becomes more attractive and the perceived value increases. ie it will be easier to sell.

but lets face it- it is a peripheral. it relies on the ps4 as a host, it interfaces with the ps4... it can not operate without it. that is a peripheral.

if it were completely stand alone and independent from the ps4, of course it would be a new platform. which it is not

Khajiit863641d ago

Do you have proof that you need a PS4 to use it? Maybe a PS3 will work? maybe PC too? Who knows right now, lets not act like we do.

Fatal-Aim3641d ago

Then what is a BluRay player? It too needs a host. Does that make it a peripheral to the TV, too? or what about surround sound speakers/receivers. Are those peripherals?

Blurmobjet3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

@khajitt86

If it runs on its own, then it's a platform. If it requires a PS4, PS3, PC or anything else to run then it's a peripheral. That's what a peripheral is.

@fatal-aim

You're totally messed up on what a platform is. By that logic, every console that's ever come out is a peripheral.

It has nothing to do with the television. Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, DVDs, PC, Mac and any console that has come out to date are platforms as they carry their own media format (of course there are hybrids, as practically all Macs and PCs have been fitted with DVD drives, but as you know, data DVDs and DVDs made to play in DVD players are formatted differently). Anything that adds on to enhance those platforms or requires media be run from those platforms in order to function I would consider a peripheral and yes that includes Morpheus and Oculus Rift.

As far as speakers and the such, I've never heard them referred to as either, but I would say that they would lean closer to being peripherals them platforms wouldn't you think?

pcz3641d ago

@fatal aim

maybe the reality is all these things are peripherals, maybe the ps4 is a peripheral for the tv too.

maybe the reality is, that people are moving away from peripherals, that people want a device that 'does it all.' ie, people dont want a computer anchored to the table with a monitor and a keyboard and a mouse, they want a tablet. no, they want their computer to be their phone, and to also double as their camera.

all these devices were made up of a host, and peripherals, but technology has advance to merge them all together. the wiiu tried (and failed) to move the console away from the television by including a tablet-like controller... the television is still a vital part of gaming.

maybe in the future we will see a new STAND ALONE platform that offers home console experiences that is totally independent of the television.

if morpheus is not a peripheral, then why is it anchored to the ps4? why does it fit the exact definition of a peripheral? because it is a peripheral, thats why. its only marketing that tries to convince you that something is more than it actually is.

someOnecalled3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

The amount of spinning from sony fanboys is amazing. They only showed it being played only with ps4 and somehow now people are saying we don't know if we would need a ps4? The PS fanboys are on a whole new level. Holens is by its self. Pc gamers are use to paying for high priced accessories, and vr on pc is not locked so buyers can use and develop for different purposes and don't have to worry about the sony overlord or what bs comes out their mouth. TV is not a platform either nice try on the spin either. I like the way this guys spin. "So TV a platform then?" So Morpheus would be a platform of a platform of a platform? TV(device or tool to display media> ps4 (game platform)> Morpheus ( something you buy but need ps4 to use).

Seriously if sony wasn't trying to do vr we all know all y'all would give to f#(ks about vr and would downplay it like y'all was doing before they announced it

Omegasyde3641d ago

@above

Played with it last december at playstation expirience it runs with ps4....

I saw it with my own eyes, and also asked how it worked with camera and psmove which they stated there might be new psmove like controller (which was hinted at)

ginsunuva3641d ago

It will probably evolve to rely on PS Now instead of hardware, as to complete the inevitable cloud takeover of gaming.

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3-4-53641d ago

New Platform = It costs more money than just an add on would.

kneon3641d ago

I would hope so, if they were to release a $199 Morpheus it would be a piece of crap.

Better to make it more expensive initially and actually work well rather than cheap out and release a lousy product.

Omegasyde3641d ago

I dont think it will be that cheap fora while with led screens

bunt-custardly3641d ago

Not sure why all the disagrees did I miss the memo where Morpheus was a standalone product that would work without a PS4?

aerisbueller3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

"A computing platform is, in the most general sense, whatever pre-existing environment a piece of computer software or code object is designed to run within, obeying its constraints, and making use of its facilities. The term computing platform can refer to different abstraction levels, including a certain hardware architecture, an operating system (OS), and runtime libraries."

Platform doesn't mean console. Steam is platform, as are OSX and Windows, and even Windows 8 Metro interface by itself is a platform.

VR has a completely different set of goals and constraints from a normal PS4 game. Non-VR games for PS4 won't automatically translate to Morpheus well, and vice versa. They are providing a new way to play games, which requires a new way to make games.

Anyone who doesn't think of it as a platform is going to make a crappy vr experience that won't last. Oculus said it will be a platform. SteamVR is a platform (like android), and in this case it's a hardware independent platform for which HTC will make a device (like they do with Android).

kneon3641d ago

You mean like Oculus needs that really old PC platform to work?

mark134uk3641d ago

might come with a pstv or with it built in? can put in psvita games watch pstv and movies?

then you get the option to buy it without having a ps4

turdburgler10803641d ago

It's not a platform but a gimmick;-)

stuna13641d ago

Isn't that how all platforms work? When you look at platform, you look at something being built off of something else! It's really no different from a current gen game being built for last gen platforms.

medman3641d ago

Project Morpheus is ‘not a peripheral’ but a New ‘platform’....Translation: Project Morpheus will not be cheap, it's going to cost like a new platform. I'm just hoping it's great, to justify the cost.

Godmars2903641d ago

All I know is, is if this can't be used with the PS4, if you need a high end PC instead, then its dead.

Death3641d ago

I don't think we have seen any indication Morpheus uses anything other than a PS4 to work. Let's not over think this, Morpheus is indeed a peripheral for the PS4. It is also it's own platform since VR games will not work without Morpheus.

Locknuts3641d ago

PS4 won't be able to render 75fps for each eye at any decent resolution.

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MCTJim3641d ago

and unfortunately it sounds like here is the $500+ price tag.

Peace_Love_and_FPS3641d ago

So doubtful that it will be that much. You know, I know, and they know, that won't bring mass appeal, there's not a chance in h*** that it's 500.

MCTJim3641d ago

I dont think this device will have mass appeal as I still think with the cost of the tech is not at a consumer friendly price point.

kneon3641d ago

I think $500 is the upper limit, but I think it would come down in price pretty quickly. Probably down by $100 in about a year.

EvilWay3641d ago

Well this is Sony. The Kings of overpriced hardware

Rimeskeem3641d ago

I say 400$ max

Thinking 300$

Khajiit863641d ago

Same here $349 sounds good. Not sure about Oculus that thing might be like $500 or more. I want both.

starchild3641d ago

Nah, I think Sony will be aiming for the $300 to $400 price range.

I think the Oculus Rift will also fall in that price range.

Paleblood3641d ago

Incredible

If Sony would have spent a lot of time on E3 they would say:
Sony spent too much time talking about Morpheus when people wanted games.

And then Sony didn't spent much time on Morpheus but still they criticize because of that.

There is no way to please people. They will always bring some dumb critic.

JoeReno3641d ago

well said +1

the manchild can never be satisfied.

starchild3641d ago

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but as someone that has already used VR (Rift DK1) I am more excited for VR than anything else on the horizon. Given that this is the year VR is finally going to arrive (late 2015 and early 2016) I honestly expected VR to have a much bigger presence at E3.

I plan to get the Oculus Rift, Valve/HTC Vive and Sony's Morpheus. Oculus had a press conference devoted to VR. But where was Valve? And I really would have liked for Sony to have devoted more time to showing the world just how cool VR is.

With VR arriving late this year and early next year I really thought that E3 2015 would have been the place these companies would have wanted to get people's attention and show the world what's coming.

The little amount of time Sony devoted to VR at their conference this year makes me wonder if they aren't planning to release Morpheus until late 2016, in which case they would have another opportunity to show it off in a big way at E3 2016.

NeoGamer2323641d ago

Yep, just like the one thousand Backwards compatibility won't work, is stupid, and nobody will agree to put their games in it articles.

N4G... Center of the universe for whiny gamers.

Maybe it should be renamed W4G - Whining 4 Gamers.

WeAreLegion3641d ago

I imagine Morpheus will get its own conference.

DigitalRaptor3640d ago

Very likely.

It will more than likely get its own segment at PSX in December, where not only the press, but fans can get their hands on the latest games being demoed. But I expect a full blowout event around January, maybe even at CES: http://www.cesweb.org/

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