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1TB PS4 and Xbox One models are appallingly overdue

Dealspwn: Hands up. Whose PS4 or Xbox One is completely full already? Quite a few of you we imagine, especially seeing as most games seem to move in with about 40GB of space on your hard-drive.

Today we've heard leaks about a new 1TB hard-drive PS4 model and the rumours of an Xbox One slim with a bigger drive have been doing the rounds too. Of course, PS4 owners can buy their own 1TB drive and install it and there was briefly a 1TB XO (the COD model), but why the hell is it taking Sony and Microsoft so long to wake up to the fact the 500GB drive is a joke?

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Blues Cowboy3249d ago

Too right. Full disc installs make 500GB a joke.

Oh, and before anyone says, "but you can just pay more for external HDD/upgrade," remember that we're the customers here and it's our hard-earned cash.

BecauseImBatman3249d ago (Edited 3249d ago )

I think 1TB should have been in both from Day One myself, in this day and age of gaming when games are anywhere between 25-50GB in size, 500GB Drives are just not gonna cut it. Plus take into account how much overhead your OS takes up and you sitting there with about 400GB of space...

Luckily when I got my PS4, I bought a 2.5TB drive to replace the internal drive but even that is now over half full :P

helterskelter3249d ago

Its only a problem if u cannot change the Internal Hardrive!

Gazondaily3249d ago

This is why external HDD support for the X1 is a godsend. A simple plug in and play solution.

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ShaunCameron3249d ago

Were you willing to pay more for the One and PS4 upfront had a 1TB hard-drive came with them?

freshslicepizza3249d ago

you can buy a 5 terabyte external for about $150 now

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spacedelete3249d ago

i don't understand why anyone needs more than 500GB anyways. once you finish a game you delete the game data. how many people actually replay games anyway ? yeah there might be a few worth replaying but most games are finish one and done game. unless i buy another PS4 with a bigger HDD i'm sticking with my 500GB PS4 for a whole gen.

Blues Cowboy3249d ago

In the old days I'd agree. Now games are continually prolonged and designed for massive replay value, even if it's to dip into.

chippychan3249d ago

I would also agree if things were like they were in the past.

I don't have a problem deleting a game install if I have it on disc and can just re-install it when I'm ready, but the problem with today's games is that a lot of the data can come from patches and updates.

I have a data-cap on my monthly internet service and re-downloading a 10-gig 'patch' to play a game again is massive.

uth113249d ago

That works great if you have really fast internet and redownloading these games or huge patches is no big deal.

But when it takes hours, like for me, I want to keep the games on my HD until I'm sure I'm done with them.

ChronoJoe3249d ago

I don't finish individual titles, I have an abundance of titles that I go back to, especially for multiplayer.

Games like GTAV, Destiny, LittleBigPlanet 3, DriveClub, Guilty Gear, The Last of Us Remastered, are not simply 'single playthrough' games. They all have extensive replayability through multiplayer components that I should be able to go back to, easily, any time I choose.

Deleting the enritity of the game data then reinstalling is a pain, especially because it also deletes the games patches and downloadable expansions. Setting up something like Killzone Shadowfall after deleting its game data takes me within the realms of 5 hours. I shouldn't have to delete it.

iistuii3249d ago

Well i agree with you. I buy the odd game like Fifa 15 or Forza Horison 2 which id play online all year, but take games like TLOU or Wolfenstein, id finish them & sell them on leaving space for the next game. No way will i pay ridiculous digital prices, so the HD is very sufficient for me.

mhunterjr3249d ago (Edited 3249d ago )

IMO That's pretty stupid... If I think I'll be done with a game after a single play through, if just rent it... It's really a waste of time to purchase a game you don't intend on keeping for a while.

I buy games that have replay value in the single player or long lasting MP

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GribbleGrunger3249d ago

Can't we just be joyous about consoles with bigger hard drives and not put a negative spin on it? This industry is hard to enjoy.

traumadisaster3249d ago

Can't the kids working in sweat shops be joyous they have a job, and not put a negative spin on it. That industry is so hard to enjoy.

There is nothing wrong with wanting better in ALL things...

GribbleGrunger3249d ago (Edited 3249d ago )

That's your reply? < This is all I could muster. What next, bring up the Nazi's?

MSBAUSTX3249d ago

The added cost that they will attach to a 1TB HD would be enough to cover the purchase of a 1 if not 2 TB external HD. Meaning that you could essentially have 1.5 to 2.5 TB of storage space for the price of what they will charge for a 1TB system. It is better to just buy an external than to have 1TB of internal.

Trust me, over the next 4 years of these systems you will fill up a 1TB HD. So once you have filled that up are you going to demand they release a 2TB system as well? The 1 TB systems will easily cost a minimum of $50 more than the existing 500 GB systems. You can buy a 1 TB HD on Amazon for $55 and have 1.5 TB of space for the price of 1 TB in the new systems.

They didn't include the 1TB HD initially to keep costs down and paying for it now isn't cost effective considering what I have already said.

silvacrest3249d ago

just buy a 1TB drive and install it in your PS4 your self, why wait for sony or MS to give you the option

uth113249d ago

it's cheaper if it comes with one, you don't have the buy the console then a new drive

dancerOfDeath3249d ago

500gb wasn't even remotely enough. 1TB would be nowhere near enough, either. Inevitably, an external was essential for me. 1TB consoles are inevitable too, but doesn't really fix the problem IMO. Though for casual users it will work.

Chanogram3249d ago

Many people won't fill up their 500gb that quickly. Why put something more expensive in and possibly have to raise the price? If you are willing to pay more for a larger internal hard drive, then what is wrong with paying more for your own hand-picked external/internal drive (depending on console)?

I'm actually fine with the options available on both consoles. I got to pick a very nice 7200 rpm drive for my X1, which actually improved load times on games significantly. If i run out of room on my PS4, i'll look into upgrading the internal HD there as well.

Magicite3249d ago

Ive PC with 1TB HDD and tons of games and tis enough, but 500GB obviously wouldn't be sufficient.

Bathyj3249d ago

You have a PC with a 1TB harddrive?

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bggriffiths3249d ago

Every time I get a new game now, I've got to chop something. Sure there are ones I don't play that much anymore. But it's handy to leave ones like MKX on there for when mates come round, but I'll rarely play it on my own. But I don't want them to pop over and sit through a 40GB redownload.

Blues Cowboy3249d ago

Such a pain. Same here, have to choose which game to sacrifice every time I get something new. Thank goodness for cloud saves!

Chanogram3249d ago

If you are buying that many games, i would assume you have the money to spend on this hobby. With that said, spend a little money to upgrade the internal HD on your PS4, or buy a nice external for your X1.

Or, sit here and complain about something that you can fix yourself. That works too I guess.

TheNemesis5013249d ago

upgrade your harddrive, and sell you stock one on ebay

weirdo3249d ago

i installed an internal 2tb on the day i got my ps4, still have loads of space :)

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere27m ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

PassNextquestion3m ago(Edited 1m ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

Profchaos2m ago(Edited 1m ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos51m ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto9d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic9d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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