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MGSV's Quiet's outfit is anything but 'mild' nudity

GGG analyzes the recent rating of MGSV saying the game contained "mild" amounts of nudity and debates whether Quiet's controversial character model can even be considered "mild nudity".

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Nyxus3627d ago

Uh, she isn't nude at all. And if she was, so what?

DarkOcelet3626d ago

Dont work yourself out on such articles. Its not worth it.

Kojima himself said there is an explanation on why she is wearing that outfit so i cant wait to the look on the people's face who wrote silly articles like those.

Nyxus3626d ago

I just find it weird to thin Quiet's outfit is anything more than 'mild nudity', when there isn't any nudity at all, actually. Maybe the rating refers to something else in the game we haven't seen yet.

LordMaim3626d ago

I don't know. Any reason that Kojima could offer that someone is in the desert in that kind of outfit could only be contrived.

But on the other hand, who cares? Is a bikini "mild" nudity? Or nudity at all? Is it really necessary to write an entire article about the severity of an adjective? It would be like arguing over whether something should be described as "light blue" or "pale blue".

Anthotis3626d ago

lol

If Quiet's outfit is classed as mild nudity, then we might need to ban the millions of scantily clad girls from dressing the way they do, unless they're in SJW approved nudist zones.

MWH3626d ago (Edited 3626d ago )

"Kojima himself said there is an explanation on why she is wearing that outfit"

only a teenager would buy into this bullsh1t.
the fact is they decided they want this factor in the game then built some story around it, it's not the other way around, not in billion years.

it's just another case of "sex sells", period.

there's even a toy that allows you to squeeze her breasts, so what is there to defend I don't know.

Lightning Mr Bubbles3626d ago

I would call Quiet's outfit ZERO Nudity. Because it has no nudity, are these people retarded?

hay3626d ago

Yup, it's clear that Kojima wanted some, quote: "easy cosplays" and had to put dramatic story not to come out of it as a questionable pervert, instead framed us to make us feel bad with questioning his doubtful intentions.

kneon3626d ago

I agree with segamon, there is no plausible reason for her to wear such a stupid outfit other than to pander to 14 year old males.

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Lord_Sloth3626d ago

Story Quality? WTF
Like this website? No.

paradigmfellow3626d ago

The problem is that they are objectifying women.

Nyxus3626d ago

Why, just because of the way she looks? Stefanie Joosten, who plays the character, already said there is depth to her. Quiet is an actual character, not an object. Stefanie also said her looks don't bother her.

BiggerBoss3626d ago

I guess people were objectifying Raiden when he ran around naked in MGS2?

Yi-Long3626d ago

You don't know anything about the character yet.

It's YOU who are judging her solely based on her outer appearances.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI3626d ago

And men are not objectified in videogames...?

ChrisW3626d ago

No, hardly anyone here cares about the objectifying of women in games. The problem is Quiet's outfit looks completely out of place and impractical.

gamer78043626d ago

She's modeled after a real person... With her permission.

ShadowWolf7123626d ago

"The problem here is they are objectifying women."

Says the guy with the Fairy Tail avatar. lmao

The guy says there's a reason for the outfit, I can't pass judgement one way or the other until I hear it... but to sit there and straight-faced say that this is "problematic" because it "objectifies women" while repping the work of friggin HIRO MASHIMA is hilarious.

DragonKnight3626d ago

No, they aren't. No one sees women as object. ABSOLUTELY NO ONE. In all contexts, in all ways, no one sees women as an object. The term objectification is absolutely divorced from reality. Even the most controlling person in the world does not see women as objects. Absolutely no one sees a woman dressed in provocative or revealing clothing and thinks of that woman as an inanimate object, completely void of agency, for them to use for their own needs and then toss. People may not be empathetic to the person, but they certainly don't view the person the same way they view a car or a remote or a fridge.

The term objectification is completely asinine, over and misused, and is at this point a total buzzword people throw out when they want to whine about something and don't have a legitimate reason.

As for believing this outfit is "out of place" and "impractical" in what way? What practical outfit is there to have in a scorching hot desert? Army fatigues and an 80lb sac so you can hold in more body heat and become dehydrated faster? Why are people concerned with the practicality of someone's outfit in games with technology that doesn't even exist in the real world? It's like judging a game on it's realistic way of being unrealistic, or vice versa.

People put way too much thought into the tiniest, most inconsequential things.

zidane13413626d ago

@dragonknight: WTF are you rambling about? There are plenty of sexist, horrible people out there that think woman are nothing but objects. One of the reasons there's something called rape that happens. Not to mention serial killers and other murderers who don't bat a eye over killing little girls, young men, really any demographic. You need to take psychology courses or wake up to the real world man. To say nobody in the world "objectifies" woman is just so naive. Not to bash on you or anything.

DragonKnight3626d ago

@zidane: Rape does not exist because people are viewing someone else as a sexual object. Rape is about exerting power over someone in the most complete way. No one actually thinks of anyone, men or women, as any kind of object.

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DarkOcelet3626d ago (Edited 3626d ago )

The person who wrote this article is clueless to what he wrote.

You know what else i find very weird. He is complaining about her looks but he is finding that a hidden D**ks in State of Decay background art is hilarious...

http://gimmegimmegames.com/...

How come he didnt find that a bit disturbing or downright ****ing weird is beyond me.

alvgamin4lif3626d ago

In the modern world it's now common to f**k logic. Dicks? Lol! Boobs? Sjw, feminist and what not!
Wtf?

monkeyDzoro3626d ago

SJW and "Feminists".
- Women are free and so if they want to expose their body or want their body to be exposed, they have all rights to do so. Its THEIR choice. Moreover, why men can run with topless and women can't ?

Kojima - This is Quiet a scout. This is her outfit.

SJW and "Feminists"
- WTF ?! Nudity again. Just to arouse white male gamers.

( -_-)(-_- )( -_-)

I didn't even bother clicking on the article. Not to bear again with their nonsense. What a joke. And they want videogames to evolve. How do they want that, if they moan every time they see a nipple... But you'll see the same PRAISING TV shows like Game of Thrones...

Pathetic.

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BiggerBoss3626d ago

The hypocrisy of SJWs astounds me

Askanison43626d ago

lol that's a very silly way of looking at it.

"Its THEIR choice"
-- You do understand this design came from a man? Quiet is not an ACTUAL woman who made the costume choice.
That's really not hard to understand.

Of course it's objectification. Any rationale behind why she would dress that way is a retcon.

BTW, I'm 100% not a SJW or any other silly acronym you want to throw around... but get your head out of the sand and see the world around you.

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DragonKnight3626d ago

"-- You do understand this design came from a man? Quiet is not an ACTUAL woman who made the costume choice. That's really not hard to understand."

Precisely why b****ing about her design is stupid. The woman is fictional. She doesn't exist. So either her design is that of a man making a woman that doesn't exist, or if you're going to insist that this is problematic due to objectification (which is stupid) then it raises the question of whether or not we need to consider the agency of a fictional character, in which case said fictional character is wearing what she wants to wear.

What's happening is that SJWs will insist, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, that games impact real life and Quiet's design means women everywhere will be viewed as sexual objects (patently absurd), but at the same time complain that a fictional character can't have agency unless designed with specific agency. So a fictional character is real when it supposedly impacts the self-esteem of women, but not real because of its lack of agency.

B.S.

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Adrian_v013626d ago

Imma become a "game journalist" and write an article on every good looking guy in video games on how guys are objectified.

DivoJones3626d ago

While I can't say that if I went to the beach I'd see that quality of a beach body, I can at least say that I'd see about that much 'nudity' on a public beach. This is the difference between Japan and America right now. There's a big push for womens' rights and equality here in the US.. Japan not so much. But that's really up to the people of Japan to make their stand for rights and equality.

If this offends people, they shouldn't buy it.. but I'm gonna.

Gatsu3626d ago

Agreed.

I wish this kind of articles would stop coming...

mydyingparadiselost3626d ago (Edited 3626d ago )

Please disregard this space, I'm dumb :/

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comebackkid98913626d ago

@segamon
You're right, what is there to defend?

Orionsangel3626d ago

I agree, who cares anymore. Directors, Developers should do what they want and ignore the public. Creative freedom. Rather than a world where your creative talents are limited by what offends a certain group of people.

InTheZoneAC3626d ago

because it's a game and would feel out of place? idk....

Takwin3626d ago

Partial nudity means nipples. Those are parts that are covered. Or even an ass. But cleavage in an outfit you absolutely could wear out in public that covers more than a swim suit. NOT NUDITY.

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Big_Game_Hunters3627d ago (Edited 3627d ago )

Her outfit is less revealing than a bikini, are bikini's mild nudity too?

"just another cheap tactic at forcing female characters through hard times, like with Paz’s multiple rapes in Ground Zeroes tapes" What? They put large screws through Chico's feet, both him and Paz were tortured. How is that "forcing a female character into hard times". So if i write a novel that takes place during a time of racial segregation and include a lynching scene would that be
"forcing a black charcter into hard times"?

mrbojingles3627d ago

I dunno, I expect to see skin on a beach. In a warzone? Just sayin'.

Nyxus3627d ago

And Liquid Snake was walking around with a bare chest in Alaska. It's Metal Gear.

JohnathanACE3627d ago (Edited 3627d ago )

@mrbojingles

In Metal Gear Solid 2 you play as a naked man doing cartwheels. I don't expect to see that in an underwater fortress but there is is.

Dirtnapstor3626d ago

I'm not knocking Quiet's outfit, she looks great! But in a warzone, yes I agree, you'd think one would be a bit more concerned about exposure.
However, Kojima eluded to the lack of clothing having to do with her ability to cloak, some sort of invisibility factor. Looking forward to the mystery...
My GOTY!

CyrusLemont3626d ago

Disgusting. We should censor creativity.

WeAreLegion3626d ago

You have to babysit these guys. They don't get the joke unless you put "/s" at the end.

RJ920093626d ago

Why is it a big deal when girls dress like this in real life. See girls all the time in short shorts and a sports Bra on just running down the street hell I can walk in Walmart and see some girl I wish I did not see more off. I just don't understand people some times..

SaveFerris3626d ago

Didn't Stephanie and/or Kojima state that there is a reason for her outfit?

Nyxus3626d ago

Multiple times, but that doesn't matter when people have already made up their minds.

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Metal Gear Solid 5, Nearly After A Decade, Is Still A Timeless Classic

The Metal Gear series, led by Kojima, pioneered the stealth genre, creating a masterclass in storytelling and gameplay.

SimpleSlave324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

No. But MGS5: Ground Zeroes might actually be one of the greatest Game Demo ever, if not the best.

xHeavYx324d ago

I know a lot of people didn't, but I actually liked that story twist at the end. The game was fun and all, but I wouldn't call it a timeless classic.

Cacabunga323d ago

Metal Gear legend stopped with number 4.
MGS5 needed a year or 2 more of development to be maybe among the classics.. it was clearly rushed, especially at the end. The story teaches us absolutely nothing new.

just_looken323d ago

A demo is free that was a $40 cry for help as later we would know konami did not want to fun hideo and his team anymore that is why we got the unfinished phantom pain.

-Foxtrot324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

Meh

Great stealth gameplay but the game was just average.

Bland open world that felt lifeless, the story felt shoehorned in, unfinished story etc. The whole thing was just average to me compared to the other main titled games.

I would have rather preferred it if they kept Ground Zeroes for the main game as the opening and the rest of the game turns into a Metal Gear 1 & 2 remake to bring things full circle.

just_looken323d ago

If you dig around they had old behind trhe scenes of phantom pain vids and books wrote around the time.

Before funding was puled the main idea was to keep peace walker coop it was in the games early builds and that end game were your building your base that was suppose to be metal gear one.

You as the fake big boss was going to make your own metal gear one map aka your base (outer heaven) then me as sold snake use the mode that is in the game invade/defeat the base even fight your current version of metal gear that was in the game but not finished.

So your idea was on the table bit got canned.

CrimsonWing69324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

Like hell it is. That was the first time I became aware of being sold an unfinished game and was blown away about blind fanboys saying it was some perfect game.

Yea, the first few chapters were great until they do that thing halfway and make you replay all the missions again. Then little things like capturing animals but only seeing a JPEG unlike 3 where everything was modeled out. Areas were massive, desolate, and boring to look at.

Game was a massive let down for me and the potential was so high for it. Honestly, this was one of the most disappointing games I ever played. What’s worse is it starts off brilliant. You literally play through until you get to the point where you could tell they just stopped developing and then quickly used glue and construction paper to “finish” it and then sold it. Quite frankly, that’s insulting to consumers and fans.

Inverno324d ago

People have selective memory. This game had huge drama attached to it, what Konami did to Kojima and this game was horrible. Now they praise Konami cause they revived Silent Hill, even though SH looks half arsed too.

CrimsonWing69324d ago

I dunno if they’re getting much praise after the Silent Hill 2 debacle. Makes me scared sh*tless for the MGS 3 Remake…

Michiel1989323d ago

I don't wanna defend konami, but Kojima had 7 years to make the game, it's not that weird for a publisher to expect a game to be finished in that amount of time.

Also no one is praising konami from what I've seen, they're just excited that a Silent Hill game is releasing

CrimsonWing69322d ago (Edited 322d ago )

@Michiel1989

You’re absolutely correct. Look, the dude is a visionary and has brought us some incredible games, but he constantly would go over budget and could never stick to a deadline. I don’t know if people remember the MGS 4 trailers but it became a joke when you’d see a release date and then they crossed it out in the next trailer to give another.

What a lot of people don’t know is there’s a certain amount of money given for development and marketing. When you go over the budget and add additional marketing over the deadline it isn’t cheap. MGS GZ and V were laughable to me for the amount of time he had to develop them and he spent even more time on the engine that wasn’t anything revolutionary to me. I mean, GZ was nothing more than a demo and they released that art like $40 I think, probably to further help fund V. He then spent money for Kiefer Sutherland who did nothing for the character, which I think Kojima just wanted because he’s a fan.

Konami just had enough and said this is the deadline and you’re done after this. It’s business, but fans took it personal. I mean look at this Overdose game he’s been doing.,, like when is that ever coming out?

Michiel1989322d ago

I kind of forgot about overdose but yeah exactly my thoughts. He has made some of the best games out there and definitely deserves time to create his new masterpiece, but it's not a bottomless well.

This is pure speculation but I imagine he got around 4 years to make the game excluding pre-production. If after those 4 years the game is nowhere near being done, the relationship will be strained between them one way or another.

about the konami being praised thing, if let's say blizzard announces world of warcraft 2 today I'll be excited as hell for the game, but that doesn't mean my opinion of blizzard changes only a tiny bit cause they're still trash.

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Yui_Suzumiya322d ago

Yeah, it was the only MGS I didn't play and this is coming from someone who got back into gaming after skipping a generation due to MGS4 back in 2008. It just seems to be the complete opposite of the MGS I always knew and loved (1-4).

JEECE324d ago

Yes and no. In many ways in was a great game; there's a very strong argument that it has the best gameplay of any MGS game, and that it is one of the more interesting open world "playgrounds" we have gotten, in terms of how the world operates. But as an MGS narrative, it is pretty far down the list, for many reasons.

Storm23323d ago

I don't think there is any argument. The gameplay was incredible. But yeah...disappointed in the rest. Could have been incredible but...well...we all know what happened...

JEECE322d ago

I don't think there is much of one either but apparently some people found the world very boring compared to the more linear structures of other entries so I didn't make a definitive statement in order to acknowledge the outliers.

DarXyde323d ago

The thing about Metal Gear Solid is that the narrative is what determines which is your favorite because the gameplay had ALWAYS improved with every mainline entry. It's amazing.

If it was gameplay, we'd all say The Phantom Pain, but the story is what truly sets them apart.

For me, that's Snake Eater, which is also my favorite game of all time.

JEECE322d ago

That's my favorite too, particularly if we are talking about the subsistence version with camera control.

Fishy Fingers324d ago

For me, best gameplay, worst, everything else.

Storm23323d ago

Yeah...gameplay was so damn good.

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