A few hours ago, it became known that Rockstar Games had unexpectedly changed the EULA, which now doesn’t let create the mods in GTA V on PC.
terrible decision on Rockstar's part. How many games live long beyond their times due to a thriving mod community? It's a way to keep people coming back to your game.
After 10's of millions of copies sold, and with people buying 3 copies of it, I doubt R* really cares about longevity at this point:p I can understand not allowing Mods in GTA online, but they should at least leave them alone in SP. A huge open world like GTAs can inspire a lot of creativity. Just look at what people have accomplished with just skyrim and gta 4
I'm sorry if you bought 3 copies of GTA5 then you're......errrr wait i have some beach front property to sell you in Kentucky.
Just Cause mods are fun too
@utalkin I bought 3 copies, sold the first 2 for $45 each and now im keeping the best version.
The EULA is horsesh*t. It should NOT dictate or control what somebody does with their own purchased copy of a videogame in the privacy of their home. That's disgusting and oppressive to our rights to imagination and creativity as a human being.
I laugh at the stuck up PC Master Race people :P If they had mods on PC I would have gotten it, I thought something like this would happen :/ wtf is going on with mainstream PC scene? - PS4 & PC Master Race league.
Honestly, screw Rockstar. So let me get this straight. After nearly 2 years of waiting for the PC version to hit. It finally comes out, with everyone excited to buy the game and start putting awesome mods on it like EVERY PC game on the planet. Rockstar knows this, they anticipate millions of sales for this reason. And after they get their millions of sales, they decide to make it illegal to mod the game because of whatever? What a bunch of assholes. I don't even care for the game, I don't plan on getting it on PC or modding it. But millions who already bought the game to enjoy it, and play it years from now with mods DO CARE. And now Rockstar does this. Their games have been getting worse ever since last generation. From this point on I no longer support them, i'm sick of them. Not buying a single thing with their name on it.
This killed my interest in the PC version, too. Much of the fun and replay value in PC games are because of mods. Terrible, idiotic decision.
Not even that. Thousands of people, including me, bought the PC version in anticipation of mods. Otherwise I would have just not bought it.
It was definitely one of the main reasons for me, probably mods at the top followed by 1080p+/60fps
Give it another year and R* will most likely will not care for the mods,but right now they are trying to make the most they can,money related from the game,it was expected.Too bad for the people that jump straight or double dip this game expecting mod free from the start. In one year it will be cheaper to pick the game also.
Totally agree with that after the main story is finished and over 190 hours in online the only thing left for the people who double dipped or even *gasp* tripple dipped is mods.
Rockstar is no different then any other company. They only care about there product and there profits. They asked for our opinions for Gta 5, Just to use it against us. They knew what we all wanted from the beginning. I am not surprised they turned on there fans.
They lied. I feel fooled to wait 2 years for this shit. No mods wtf ?
Did you really buy this game just to use mods? Why don't you just play the game it was meant to be played.
I take it you've never used mods before.
Have you heard of "Fun"?
What if he already played it last-gen, and wanted the PC version for mods?
@ DharmaDan108 You must be playing a game to see how many disagrees you going to get.
"Why don't you just play the game it was meant to be played." I lol'd. because this "Did you really buy this game just to use mods?" is a hilariously stupid question. Grant it there are some that did, but most people who buy games on pc want it for the optimization in accordance to their build and obviously for the option to mod it. The better question is... Why wouldn't you want the option to experience cool user generated content in a game you enjoy playing? Because last time i checked its the users that actually play the game... not the developers.
Are you really naive enough to believe there is any such thing as "was meant to be played"? Rockstar can only do so much with the time and money they have available for development. Adding more content to the game through mods is perfectly legit. A game is meant to be played however the player wants to play it and if i'm paying $60+ for a game, i damn well will play it how I want to. NOT how Rockstar wants me to. They can ban me from multiplayer if they want but an EULA cannot legally apply to the offline portion of the game. They ban you from single player for any reason, you can sue the ever living hell out of them for bait and switch fraud. I use Peerblock anyway so they can't even tell that i'm using mods in single player unless i let them.
Yeah, I'm shocked for previous GTA games had mod support. I hope is not done to prevent the console version of GTA V to look bad.
Well they didn't have mod support directly from Rockstar but they didn't mind them and certainly they weren't banning anyone. It seems is all about their loan shark cards microtransactions. If people can hack money in GTA Online their loan shark cards sales would go down to hell and they would lose load of $$$. Still I do not see how mods affect them and anyone else when you used them in singleplayer. Only Rockstar and God knows.
I will never get companies. Power trip?
And then they wonder why people pirate and avoid all this EULA and update nonsense.
And then pirates wonder why they get thrown in jail or heavily fined for stealing other people's property.
@thunderbird86 After they made millions upon millions and still fail to deliver... I don't mind at all. -cool edit bro
I bought GTA V on PC and if they actually ban me for using mods in single player then I will download a crack for the game so that I can play the game I actually paid them for. I am all for banning people for using mods in multiplayer but I don't like the fact that they won't allow mods in single player mode. Don't get me wrong I bought the game on PC for keyboard and mouse gaming not for mods but using mods is a big bonus.
@hellothere1977: Even though technically it is not theft. Theft = Taking something without permission of the owner, to which the owner then no longer has access to. Piracy is just your system reading content stored on a server and then creating its own copy of the content. No removal of anything occurs. The only way they even know piracy has occured is by spying on the activity of IPs connected to P2P clients, leeching part of the file back from your IP, then comparing the hash value of the data to whatever content they think you are copying. Without that, they would never even know anything has been pirated.
@ Cuzzo63 And ^^THIS^^is a prime example of what the #pcmasterrace calls a "peasant". He's even bringing up 4K loooooool!!!! Anyway, Rockstar apparently has a few peasants in their studio as well, if this news is true. If so; FYI, this isn't going to the modding community.
Can you guys just.... you know block online traffic when you're using a mod. Some of you people are becoming a bunch of babies. You guys have a simple problem with a simple solution.
Grand Theft Auto V > Properties > Set launch options > -scOfflineOnly And if I want to play online I just drag the files into another folder for later and remove the launch option command. Been working well thus far.
Might consider writing a batch file to do it automatically for you. Then just use two separate shortcuts to start which one you want.
@Tonykid Hit the nail right on the head. I know the majority of the pc crowd is not like this. But I guess it's safe to say we got spoiled brats on all side of the spectrum
R*: we love making fun of videogames, but we hate you having fun with our own.
GTA5 is fun tho? If you can't enjoy a game without mods then I pitty you.
I believe you're confusing mods with hacks, sir.
And I don't have the right to purchase this game legally for $60 then just pirate it. I have bought this game for my PC in hopes to mod the hell out of it and now I'd love to get refunded. They knew damn well lots of people would buy it again just for mods and they pull this off? F you Rockstar. I guess I'll just let GTA V collect virtual dust in my Steam library and just go back to GTA IV and San Andreas.
Since you bought it they no longer care if you play it or not.
Wow. I would like a refund..I bought this game specifically to mod it.
Not only you my friend. I feel this is just a big middle finger to long time GTA fans and modders. Thankfully there will always be people who will manage to bypass this stupid restriction even if it costs getting banned from Online. For me I'd rather get banned from online than lose mods.
I would actually love to see if you actually can get a refund with the excuse * oh i thought i could mod it, but now i feel cheated and lied to * When we buy a game, we only buy the right's to play it. If the owners of the game *Rockstar* don't want it to be modded, yeah. they are entitled to do that.
Yea I agree with you. I don't expect a refund. Still this feels like a kick to the nads.
@SilverClock Yeah, it feels like a kick in the nads. I don't understand the downvotes, i was just realistic.
R* loves to troll pc gamers
Someone has to remind them of their stature once in a while. Funny how they always trolled console GTA players about mods, and now this happens. I'd back R* all the way and I hope there is a big backlash from PC gamers, and that will prevent any further R* games on PC. Console players spend more on most multiplatform games (despite the pre-owned market and hardware mods) yet devs always have to waste their time and resources pissing around pleasing the entitled PC gamers who always seem to be on the lookout for an excuse to pirate. Think about this: If R* never released a PC game from this day forward, how much would it really impact them? I wouldnt put up with the shit PC gamers are giving them right now, I'd say if you want to play it like we made it, go ahead, otherwise fuck you too. Its PC gamers that are trolling R*, not the other way around.
Peasant laughter is their kryptonite.
PC gamers don't buy every trash that's released. We also don't give a bj to corporations when they feed you bs or straight up act like you should be kissing their @$$. That why it OK for console markers to make dumb remark like work 2 jobs to buy a console, 1080p60fps, 4D, paid doc that use to be free, subscription online that mostly p2p, no bc, in game footage that's actually CGI or engine tech demo, most advance tech but can't max game with hardly any physx, mid shadows, barely aa, AF, no ultra texture. Yeah I see why they cater to y'all easy to please and have no self respect. Y'all love when these companies lie to y'all. Console fanboys even defend it. Even defend trash and boring if its exclusive. A bad that not even worth buying can sell on consoles it you market it right.
Rockstar are the best. How many times i read " Me gonna wait for te pc version cause iz da best 'cause te mod supportz. Masterrace ftw!!!!!!!!!!
I guess GTA5 is crap for pc gamers without mods... The problem here is that the game shares the same assets online and offline. This creates a problem and there was already a ton of cheaters online! I'm glad that you can't mod this game and play online! Make the mods offline the right way and when you want to play online just put the game back to original.
It wasn't published under Creative Commons; they have no obligation to permit you to alter their product. Don't like it? Start pushing for games to be created under an open gaming license.
What rockstar is trying to say is...... "PLEASE DOWNLOAD THE PIRATED VERSION OF GTA V IF YOU ENJOY THE MODS"
I really regret having bought this game on PC now. FU R*!
I was going to buy this game during the summer sale, but this prevents me from buying it. The modded version of Skyrim is miles way better than the vanilla version
While the modded version of Skyrim on a high end PC is graphically better than the vanilla version, the game still pretty much plays the same. To me game-play is more important than photo realistic graphics although they can enhance the game-play. Note I am not putting down Skyrim in fact IMHO it is one of the best games (still playing) I have played to date.
Sounds like a load of BS from their legal department. I honestly do believe the people making the game, love that their community makes mods. It makes the game better and creates attention and sales.
fck rockstar then! devs like bethesda loves moders and say pc is the best platform to play becouse of mods
Way to piss off your fanbase Rockstar. Keep it up.
There's a difference between mods and hacks/cheats like infinite money or spawning cars for free etc. Mods are what makes PC gaming EVEN MORE amazing, way to go Rockstar. GTA 4 modding was huge fun. Now what. I cant help but feel this is 100% because of the online element.
Gotta love rockstar waited until they sold those millions of PC copies THEN pulled mod support. Because there like were Rockstar and we can do what we want. This is a developer thinking they can do what they want because they are bigger than there market. Nobody is bigger than there market and this will only bite them on the ass when they release future games on the PC. Just idiotic by a company who in the past have had no issues with mods but this is no doubt done sop people buy future DLC instead of downloading mods as they threaten Rockstars pockets as those tens of millions of copies sold just isnt enough.
Yeah its funny how they didn't say anything about this before. They knew that if they would had said this sales would had nose dived. I would mind if they let u have mods in online mode. Im done with R*. Series getting stale and online mode is overhyped. They took over a year to release heist now they hide the fact that they are heavily against mods. This what happens when devs ego gets to big the sh!t on their fans
As bad as this sounds, with the amount of backlash they will receive, I think they will reverse this decision given enough time.
I hope this will get to the level of paid mods controversy and then they'll see their wrong ways and open their damn eyes and wake up.
Except paid mods was fantastic news for the guy who put in the work to mod it in the first place. People are complaining about not being able to use mods that they don't create in the first place. Pc gamers are as cheap as cheap gets, they want everything for free and when they don't get it for free they buy at outrageous steam sales or humble bundles where they get $250 for $4.60 because they are too cheap to donate more than that. I am a pc gamer and am constantly donating large amounts of money to humble bundle and it kills me when I see 15 games and the average price being $5. It's pathetic. As if spending money on a pc (that in no way shape or for benefits actual game makers) entitles us to be not only extremely cheap but total dbags in the process.
It's their game. If I made a game, i would be cool and let people mod. But this isn't my game and they are looking out for everyone.
Console gaming 1. Pc gaming 0.
How? Would really love to watch you try and explain that.
wait 2 years to play a game eveyone has already played and you can't do mods without being banned. i can see gta 6 turning into red dead redemption for you pc people. lol