Arkham Knight season pass gets more details from WB after many players showed concern over its price tag.
And now we play the waiting game....for the GOTY edition.
Indeed... Batgirl's cool, but she ain't $40.
Yeah, but she isn't the only thing in the season pass. Read the article. Also they still haven't revealed all the details yet. Personally, I'm still not willing to get it either.
that's how they want it. buy the game when it first comes out and then re-release the game later as a game of the year edition with all the content. unlike movies they only have usually one release launch for games. they are trying to change that with dlc and game of the year editions. movies on the other hand have theatrical, home video and then video on demand.
The thing with me is if they even know what some of the stuff is going to be why did they not just say what they had planned and then just saw we have more as well but we need to get the details nailed down. I am so tired of games companies being so cloak and dagger with info that should be let out to help to calm fans and prevent a backlash that most times fans are justified in making. I mean it kinda in a way reminds me of the whole Far Cry 4 reveal with the picture of Pagan Min and people freaking out over racism and what not. If they had just given more info about the character and story of the game people would have been more understanding. The same can apply here. If we know what our 40$ is getting us then people will be more inclined to either buy it or just leave it be instead of freaking out about what the hell is in it.
Tbh they probably didn't give more specific details to avoid a backlash where people claim you witheld content or that it should have been in the main release. Also maybe people should stop jumping the gun in the case of stuff like farcry 4 reveal?
...with a sale
I'll probably get the premium edition that includes the season pass, PC version pre-order is $35 on CDKeys.
Dunno why people are disagreeing. https://ca.trustpilot.com/r... http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/ga...
I didn't disagree because what you do with your money is your business, but I'd imagine some people are disagreeing with you because you're part of the problem. You're saying that a $40 season pass is perfectly fine with you because you're just getting it as part of a deal anyway. WB loves people like you, it legitimizes their price gouging.
Just bought this from CDkeys for the same price. I also bought my PSN and Xbox live memberships from them. They have some insane prices.
Nuuvem has/had it for 26.50. I'm kinda regretting it now since I would have just waited for it to hit $5 during a steam sale with all this season pass nonsense.
@DragonKnight When they put out the GOTY edition it'll probably be a full $60-$70 CAN, $35 for everything is essentially paying for that version of the game minus the name without having to wait a year. If i was trying to legitimize their price gouging I'd pay full price on Steam then wait for a sale on the Season pass while trying to convince people that making this extra content requires time and effort and they shouldn't give it away for free - I'm not - I'm merely looked for the best deal that i could find and I'm sure most people would a agree that $35 without the season pass for a big AAA game that's not out yet would be a great deal, let alone with the pass included, if anything WB doesn't want bargain hunters like me lol.
Like I said, I don't care what you do with your money. WB does though. For them, you bought a Season Pass. Whether they make up the difference from Steam, CDKeys, or wherever, that's a $40 Season Pass sold for them. The difference between what you just did, and a GOTY edition is the "heat" of sales. Everyone knows that a game is hottest for the first month, and even a GOTY edition rarely ever gets as hot as the initial launch. You pre-ordered and bought a $40 Season Pass for DLC content that isn't worth $40 and is still part of a practice of asking people to have faith in WB to deliver good DLC. Conversely, everyone knows what they're getting with a GOTY edition, and the value of the game has gone down for WB a year later. There's less incentive for people to buy it with other games out, and pre-ordering a GOTY game is essentially pointless because they can't really add anything else to it since GOTY games are really just the complete version. So mathematically you may be getting the same thing as everyone else, earlier and cheaper, but WB is using it as justification for their practices and counting you as someone that supports $40 Season Passes that aren't worth that price. And that's why people disagree with you.
@DragonKnight "You pre-ordered and bought a $40 Season Pass for DLC content that isn't worth $40 and is still part of a practice of asking people to have faith in WB to deliver good DLC." I didn't pre-order anything yet and the deal in the link is for the full game & season pass, not just the pass. "you bought a Season Pass. Whether they make up the difference from Steam, CDKeys, or wherever, that's a $40 Season Pass sold for them." The only thing they can say is X amount of people bought a season pass, on the same website the game without the season pass bundled in for $30 so i could do that as well.
Isn't that deal only for Europe? Not North America? I'm seeing mostly UK stuff.
No its not UK, he has a Calgary Flames emblem and is talking CAD (Canadian dollars).
@ShinMaster There is a little Earth icon next to the Steam one that tells you if its region locked or not, the deal is worldwide.
People without gaming PCs are soooooo mad right now. EDIT: Also bought the CDKeys deal. I just hope WB realizes we bought it only because of the price, and not because we actually wanted the Season Pass.
cool that they finally detail the season pass content, still not getting the $40 from me though
why are they 3 down votes? dlc is bullshit. pre-made add on from the start for the 4th time people.
Most DLC is DLC because they started making it in the middle or end of development so it would never meet the set release date.
Another reason why i'm going PC for this game the premium edition which includes the season pass right now is £25 (from cdkeys website). The console version is £100.. Thats insane.. People say PC is expensive but when your saving £75 a game PC is easily the cheaper choice.. Just a shame I need to keep my PS4 around for my JRPGs lol.
You'd better hope the game works on PC at launch. Just because you're happy that it's cheaper, doesn't mean you'll be happy when it launches.
Why is this game cheaper on pc???
£100 wtf where are you buying your games? £65 total... for me like its more yeah but not much more
Moldybread Movies dont cost $60.
GOTY?! surely you jest
They don't need to win the big GotY award to release a GotY edition... so long as there's a website or a magazine that declares Arkham Knight to be the year's best action/adventure game, it's 'legit'. Rocksteady did 'GotY' editions for both of the previous Arkham games... they'll do it for Arkham Knight as well.
i dont care what they add quite frankly - $40 IS basically a new game. And i DOUBT any downloadable content for this title will feel like the equivalent to a new game. We cannot and should not allow this type of pricing to become the norm - no matter what.
Will say the new details do make it a little better. Still pretty pricy.
Yea, sounds to me like a $20-25 expansion, similar to red dead or oblivion/skyrim content wise at least. Then again, it is surely worth more than a few maps for COD, so it is hard to say what value is these days.
If you pre-order the premium edition from PlayStation Store which include the Game + Season Pass, you'll have it for $89.99 instead of $100 Then the season pass will only cost $30 instead of $40 I think it is a good deal
Why is Batgirl in it? Oracle was in the last two games and is going to be in this one. If I remember right, there was only ever one Batgirl; Joker broke her spine and she became Oracle. Makes no sense to me.
I'm pretty sure it's a prequel story... that would explain the rumors about the Joker being in the game. Also, You may have just spoiled the ending... great job!
Spoiled a plot point from 20 years ago. ..
It is well-known Batgirl and Oracle are Barbara Gordon, and that Oracle was Batgirl. Barbara's injury is mentioned in Asylum, with her bio describing Joker injuring her. It's also occurred in several comic series where the two identities exist. You can't exactly spoil something that both Asylum and City have both outright stated in dialogue in addition to having bios that went into detail as to what happened. This injury is a staple in just about every Batman story and each story has a different take as to what leads up to her injury. The injury is well-known and is a rather minor event because of it; I wouldn't lose sleep over that detail. I've read several different variations that still managed to get me to go "damn!" despite knowing what's coming up, and I'm a huge stickler when it comes to narrative. That's how minor that 'spoiler' actually is lol.
Oracle was a temporary thing she got experimental surgery after years in the chair. After the surgury batgirl was back but if they included this they should also include batgirls birds of prey.
Maybe if you read the article you would see. It is a prequel story. No there have been more than one Batgirl (look it up) but it clearly states it is a prequel story.
I already read the article, the fact that it is a prequel story means little. It is likely one for this game, not a prequel for Arkham Asylum. If this were the Gordon Batgirl, it still makes no sense. Also, I looked it up prior to writing my initial comment. All I could find was how Barbara Gordon was Batgirl; nothing on anyone else taking that identity. Maybe start making fewer assumptions.
@aLucidMind Stephanie Brown and Cassandra Cain have both held the Batgirl mantle You must have not looked very hard as this is pretty common knowledge among comic readers
"It is likely one for this game, not a prequel for Arkham Asylum." Maybe take your own advice for making fewer assumptions. "If this were the Gordon Batgirl, it still makes no sense." How does it not make sense? She was once Batgirl and the Joker brought that to an end. This prequel could follow that storyline. It is a prequel, it can take place at any point in time they choose between Arkham Origins and Arkham Knight. Still counts as a prequel. As for looking in on Batgirl. You clearly didn't look hard enough. In fact, it wasn't difficult to find at all. Typed in Batgirl and clicked the second or third link that showed up. http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Ba...
I wasn't making any assumptions, I was stating that I felt it was merely more probable. Meaning both are still possible. Maybe learn what an assumption is before trying to be a hard-ass about it. If it were the Gordon Batgirl, it wouldn't make sense for her to be Oracle if she were still essentially crippled... and it's been confirmed that Oracle is in Arkham Knight as a bigger key character than in previous games. So no, the only time a Batgirl prequel would make sense is if it was between Origins and Asylum or if it was a different Batgirl. While it still counts as a prequel, I was saying it is unlikely one stretching that far back because it makes little sense to me to make one going back before the last two games since Joker is dead. And yes, I looked. All that came up in Google for me was article after article of that comic cover with Joker holding a gun to Batgirl's head (controversy for the sake of controversy articles, basically) followed solely by a few wikis that only mention Barbara Gordon. Once again, no need to be a hard-ass as there is literally no reason for you to be; if you cannot respond without trying to be one, you should probably remain silent.
They could be using Cassandra Cain. She became batgirl after Barbara and huntress.
Even though this game could be a prequel, currently, Barbara Gordon had surgery done and extensive physical therapy to get back walking. After some time she reclaimed her Batgirl identity, although she does suffer some psychological issues because of the episode with the Joker and this is actually a pretty big plot point regarding her character in her earlier "New 52" comics... Which are pretty good, IMO.
But Barbara is a red head the one in the image isnt
Actually, she may be. The image features a rainy setting, that is why her hair seems darker.
Sweet stuff, but still a bit too pricey
I have no problem with DLC especially story DLC, but to have it ready this early? And for $40 on a single-player game? Even FC4 season pass was too expensive at $30 and its both online and singleplayer. This season pass should have been $15-20 well AFTER the release of the game. Regardless, the only thing worth playing in any season pass is the story content, especially in a batman game. I'll wait and see how much they plan to really add to the expansion, but paying $40 already doesn't seem worth it. On the facebook page people are already gushing with praise at the announcement of story missions without even knowing how substantial they will be! For all they know it could be some really cheap 1-2hr side quests with some short cinematics, lol.
It isn't ready "this early". There is some of this stuff you won't see until the end of this year or early next. Rocksteady has said it will be released over six months or so and the game isn't out until late June.
It's a good point, but I was referring to the announcement in general. I just think this practice of announcing seasons passes and early DLC before the main game is even out opens a can of worms. I even saw people praise WB on facebook to the point of accepting the price increase on the Season pass, stuff like this sets a precedent for other publishers to start charging more. Then later on people ask why games are so expensive? and its thanks to people like those on the facebook comments, the casuals who just dont care, lol. I see that same mentality on mobile games I play, and its not healthy for the industry or the consumer.
They have been bug blasting for the last two months and not everyone in the studio is doing that. It anything most of this new content it still in pre-alpha stage or they haven't even started yet. They will be slowly releasing it over 6 months. I would not be surprised if it was just character skims for the first few months while working on the bigger chunks for later.
If games are going to do an expensive dlc pass like this GOTY edition a year from now os the way I will go. I did the same for the last 2 Batmans . Only a few games that I will buy both , like Fallout and Elder Scrolls.But I llay them through twice anyways.
Another DLC festival coming from Warner Bros, that's not the first time.
I'm now more interested in the season pass.
When I can get the core game for $20 or less, maybe then I'll bite. If that never happens (unlikely), then I'll pass on all of it.
i would say this is worth 29.99 at the most however 40 is just far to much,we don't even know how long this story content will be or anything that is where the value comes in. i can tell you right now we are not getting any new story stuff until the last few months of this year, most of what they will give us in the first few months will be costumes and challenge maps. the batgirl story will be the last thing we get and if that's the case you might not have to hold out to much longer. i remember in the case of BAA they had the GOTY version out pretty fast, AC it took a little bit longer, i'm still getting the base game i will just sell it later and use that towards the GOTY one besides i want all my stuff on the Disc, can't stand digital anything
I think 19.99 is the sweet spot for any season pass. You really need to bring something massive to the table when you ask for 40++ extra.
tbf the extra mini campaigns and side missions against various villains sounds good, the missions as batmans allies sounds good as does the batgirl campaign so this might well have the content to jutify the price after all the batgirl thing they refer to as ana expansion not dlc..
I'm only interested in the story dlc, so I'll look out for the combined pricing for them. However, if the price is still high I will just get the GOTY edition.
So if you want the full experience of this game you will have to pay $100. Well, all you Batman fans better bend over & flip up that bat cape, because this price tag is lubriciously un batman like. I don't think Bruce Wayne would approve of this!
This why I will be skipping Batman until game of year. I just bought Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Its 89.99 on psn now
The full experience of the game is the Arkham Knight storyline campaign. All of that additional content is just that. If you don't want to experience additional stories and things in that universe don't buy it. Don't accuse a developer with a solid history of cutting into the main game to make you buy DLC just because you want it for free.
Additional characters with back stories to me constitutes a fuller story, don't you think? I'm not being the riddler, but this constitutes a complete arc for this story? Maybe?
Another game I am blacklisting from my PS4 great job WB you officially made the list of publishers that will never get my money again along with EA and Activision you are scum.
They can shove this DLC where the Sun doesn't shine! Getting tired of this... Another game I'm getting the GOTY Edition used.
...thats fine. You actually don't need to buy the DLC. Its an extra and a choice. Also you could actually just buy the game used about 3 months later for a better price too with the DLC. Even supporting the GOTY edition....is still supporting DLC. I get not waiting to pay for all the DLC and the game day 1, but I mean....its an extra for a reason. One can still have a great time playing this game without the extra content. Weather you wait months, or a year or so for the DLC, get GOTY version, buy it used etc, your still giving something to them in thanks for that extra content. (well if you buy the DLC anyway). Extra content, extra cost. To get "tired" of this makes no real sense. You must have felt this way since the dawn of gaming as this isn't new. Expansions, different editions etc have been in gaming since....well gaming started. The only thing different for consoles as of last gen has merely been the method of release of this extra content. Capcom still releases Alpha's, Supers etc. Consider a long time ago...that was Capcom's dlc. http://www.ign.com/articles... This is a very, very good article about inflation and game consoles, talks about game prices a bit. But the reality is, GOTY versions are needed (its good your buying one) DLC is very much needed. A GOTY edition is pretty much just DLC packed in. Consider the game is cheaper months later, consider the DLC stays around the same price.....pack in, call it GOTY and thats it. Its actually why getting the game used later on and buying the DLC might net you the same cost as if you actually bought the GOTY edition and the publisher still gets paid. I'd rather games have DLC and at $60, then pay $89 for a game lol. (Mind you.....you'll still get extra content and DLC etc even at those prices, the point of business is to make money period, not just "enough" money) Many times people have this idea that if a publisher makes "enough" they wouldn't need to do other things to make money. Making money isn't an option, its the actually main point. They will always add dlc, ie GOTY versions, ports etc. Consider even if this DLC was "stripped" from the game as many seem to say often....could they not have made legitimate extra content after? Would you not sell fries at your restaurant because the burgers sell well? I'll likely get this game used and buy the DLC later this fall (I mean, if I even like it enough to play more of it that is). I don't know the series too well, if I did I might like you hold out for the DLC version. Nothing wrong with getting it used, other users clearly get it new for you to get it used. The developers get contracted more work for DLC, publisher makes more money, you get more content. It really is a win win if you think about it. Are you not getting a better version then I cheaper by waiting? (lol, your making me really consider waiting for that GOTY version now)